I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

crazy4carrots

I'm reading Dan Rather's "Rather Outspoken".  

On the home front -- I've picked more than 2 quarts of raspberries from the small patch next to our house.  Have decided that, beyond a doubt, fresh raspberries are my very, berry favourite fruit!  

Rabbit -- good to hear you're going to be getting some rain.  Everything is very brown here and and we also need a good downpour to ensure the farmers' crops are actually worth harvesting.  Watch for produce prices to go up, up, up this fall.  The importers will be happy..... 

bluedahlia

The unicorns died out?  Please say it isn't so.

1Athena1

(((((HL)))))) So glad that they are being flexible at work. I wish I could give you a hug. On Lupron, it took me three hours to make coffee. I am not exaggerating. I would set the alarm for 5am, get up, take the coffee beans out and crush them. I would be too tired to continue, so I'd set the alarm for 6 am. At that time, I would have the energy to brew the coffee, but would fall back asleep, setting the alarm for 7 am. At 7 am, I'd wake up and set out the cup and Splenda and milk but would have to set the alarm for 8 am to actually drink it. I will not forget those days. Cancer treatment Hell.

8:430 am: Call work and say I could not come in until about Noon.

I finally had to take dangerously high doses of a med used to treat MS-related fatigue in order to get to work. Oh, those were awful times. I was taking my other meds, though, which made fatigue worse.

I am sure it will get better for you. I know it seems strange to think back on times when you could run around forever. They WILL return. Just not today. So enjoy your reading while your body re-calibrates itself. I am now very active and energetic. Still crazy :-) But no longer a dish rag.

Hope this helps.

Yucky cancer treatment. They have GOT to come up with better crap than this.

1Athena1

Wabbit: In a manner of speaking, yes. We are now in the high 80's, lower 90s. People in the 'burbs probably won't die or lose power, but heat loathers like me will continue to take taxis everywhere.  

Wabbit

Libby ... glad to hear you are taking it slow.  Think of it as practicing for retirement.

I should read more.  Just got out of the habit somewhere about the time I got hooked on the computer.  Maybe I need to get one of those reader thingys. 

RetiredLibby

Thanks, Athena. It's not fatigue from meds (I'm not taking anything except my usual for a-fib and asthma). I think my body is punishing me for 4 surgeries in 9 months. It is just making sure I know who's boss. Once everything gets used the moving and removing of stuff, I'm sure I will return to my normal high-octane lifestyle. Or maybe mid-grade?



Raspberries --- loooooove them! Gonna have a nice bowl of fresh raspberries, blueberries, strawberries & yogurt before I toddle off to bed.



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gardengumby

Cancer treatment sucks. I got to avoid all the worst stuff (rads and chemo) and it still sucks. Met w/my onc on Monday and she said that I should disabuse myself of the idea they were going to come out with anything better than letrozole for my kind o cancer within the next 2 to 3 years. I was hoping...



Instead of hoping for rain, us Seattlish folks are hoping the blessed sunshine (and warmth) continues. We're supposed to have clouds this weekend,though.

It was hubbies turn for din, but he's in the middle of a huge project and forgot, so I'm going to try to talk him into happy hour at our local Italian place. Can't do the pasta (no wheat for me) but they prob'ly have other fun things for lazy don't wanna cook folks like me.

ananda8

PatMom,

I understand your concern that science reflect an accurate understanding on how things work and how things influence other things.  There is always room for revision and outright reversal in science.  That's what makes it science and not dogma. 

What specifically is your worry about the science of climate change.  What is the impact on society if all the scientists the world over are wrong?  Will civilization as we know it fall to pieces because we reduced our dependence on fossil fuel and installed some CO2 scrubbers on smoke stacks?

YramAL

gardengumby-your comment about clouds in Seattle this weekend sent me into a panic and I immediately checked weather.com. Yes, some clouds are coming but the 10 day forecast still has lots of sun and temps in the upper 70's low 80's. Whew! Now that summer is finally here, I don't want it to go away!

Mary 

GatorGal

Bartender, I had chemo today so I need something really yummy and non-alcoholic ... what can you serve up for me? I also need a relaxant. I lurked on this board for months and it was just such a friendly, safe place. What happened? That's a rhetorical question, no response required.

GatorGal

My astrophysicist's explanation of why the atmosphere appears blue (except in Seattle): The sky IS really the atmosphere. The atmosphere reflects blue light better than it reflects red light. Sunlight is a combination of red and blue light. The red light from the sun goes through the atmosphere, whereas the blue light from the sun is reflected to our eyes by the atmosphere, making the sky/atmosphere appear blue. So Patmom, you are right about the optical illusion!

1Athena1

Bartender has a special for chemo patients - it isn't alcohol, but it makes you feel the same way. It's a secret recipe, needless to say. It's known as NED. With a swizzle stick.

Enjoyful

Glenna...more chemo? :-(

GatorGal

I would so love to have NED back in my life ... working hard on that. Guess my cocktail for the time being is DOXIL. My chemo instructions say to avoid alcohol ... it doesn't say how long. I'm thinking one week?? Or maybe 5 days? I have Monday Merlot with friends every week and hate to miss out!

bluedahlia

Did you guys know that those sparkly things in the sky are suns with planets orbiting them and that chances are that one of those millions upon millions of planets may contain life?   Gee I thought we were the center of the universe.  Can you imagine!!!!!

bluedahlia

BIG hugs Glenna.

kira1234

Glenna, Here is a really friendly safe place to be. Hoping this chemo will be kind to you. And a warm wecome to you.

Anonymous

Actually my post about that article was inspired by Athena's post that reads in part: "If Bill O'Reilly questions climate change, they will believe it doesn't exist. ...The same people who ask others not to think are the ones who feed others lies. It is known colloquially as brainwashing, and it is usually most effective in totalitarian societies where information is tightly controlled. "

I simply asked who would need to report the information for you to believe it, included a link to a current study in a source that doesn't have a political agenda, and instead of telling me what source could be believed, poster after poster set about "proving" me wrong. 

GatorGal

Kira, thanks for the welcome and Blue, thanks for the hugs!

Scoot, my PET in May showed progression. Had been NED since last July. Had a chemo break after the taxotere, then started gemzar in November. Onc switched me to doxil last month so today was my 2nd treatment. So far so good. I'll have a CT scan on July 26th so will find out if doxil is kicking butt. Anyone have experience with Doxil?

Anonymous

PatMom, I have followed this topic but never posted.  But I have noticed that a few members here don't tolerate the opinions of those who have a different view.  Yes, they work at proving them wrong.

pupmom

Lisa96, I just joined this discussion, but, yes, there is a fair amount of intolerance on this board. I need to read the entire thread to comment more.

Wabbit

I personally consider these discussions a fascinating source of information.  I love it when people with real knowledge of stuff share it with us! 

Welcome yorkiemom!  We tend to chit chat, joke and get silly, and converse about anything and everything here.  It's our Bar & Grill.  

bluedahlia

Phasers on ignore!

bluedahlia

Yorkiemom, please wear depends while reading.  I know I have been known to PMSL!  Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1Athena1

Nom d'un nom d'un nom....

pupmom

Ok, I'll take that under advisement! 

3monstmama

I will have some ginger beer with a bit of fancy pants gin and a dash of rhubarb bitters.  Making cocktails is fun! 

there is a giant mountain out my window that was here before me, here before the city, here before the country, here before civilization.  I love my giant mountain--it reminds me of my real place in the galaxy.

 hi glenna and people I don't know. . . .I wish NED to you all.

rosemary-b

(((Glenna)))

The little ones just left. Mom and Dad went out and had a nice dinner then we had birthday cake here.

Welcome Lisa. What a unique way to introduce yourself. Stick around. We'd like to get to know you.

Oops I'm sorry I missed Yorkiemom. Welcome.

bluedahlia

soccum automata or PEDALE automata

pupmom

Hi Rosemary, hi everybody! Namaste!