Budwig protocol?

Himalaya said,

"Thank you i will search for LEIA, that seems more familiar to my situation." But, no SusieQ58's big fat ego was not having that. She had to keep nagging. And then the rest of you just joined in the chorus here and on another thread. 

Himalaya - I had a thought this morning - these people you are talking to here ie the BC.org community - have all had surgery (probably all) and we are here to respond to you - surgery didn't kill us. So our numbers certainly outweigh the 2 relatives you lost. I hope you find a doctor you can trust.

Leia, how much Vitamin D do you take?  85 is a great level!

When I was diagnosed, my D3 level was (brace yourself) 13.  Ugh!  I've been taking 10,000IU's a day and have it up to 47, as of my last blood test.  Sometime in the winter, it fell to around 35, which was distressing.  Where do you buy the test?

Thanks!

I started taking 8000IU  in the winter and my serum level is now 70 ng/ml. Now that the weather is warming up, I sit in the sun every day at lunch time. Apparently, washing your body with soap the same day can wash away the vitamin D that is being formed there from the sunlight.

As well, certain medications and caffeine can interfere with the body's ability to absorb vitamin d.  Both can also make the body acidic too. So besides testing your vitamin D level, you may want to get an alkaline test kit. Maintaining proper body cell and tissue pH is absolutely essential for overall health and creating an inhospitable environment for cancer cells to multiply.

sweetbean, I order my D tests from zrtlab.com. Although, just going out to the site, the price is now $75/test. Although, if you access the zrtlab.com site from vitamindcouncil.org, the price is $65/test and $55/test if you order 4 tests. Inflation. 

I have always ordered the 4 tests, since it is not only me but my two kids, 23, and 20.  

This is just so cheap compared to most of what else is spent on medical treatments.  

I haven't checked in on this thread for awhile and see others asking about coffee enemas on the Budwig plan and mentioning the Budwig Center. To clarify, neither of those are the original Budwig protocol. The Budwig protocol also prohibits supplements. I started the Budwig protocol and diet with FOCC back in January when I had no insurance and could not even get an oncologist to see me. I also knew I was against regular chemotherapy and since I was diagnosed at Stage IV (with bone mets and open wound through the skin) I also did not want surgery. After 3 months on the diet (during which the pain at the tumor site went away) I went to an oncologist who recommended Arimidex. I did start the Arimidex but continued the Budwig protocol knowing that taking anything was a violation of that protocol. But since Arimidex's mode of action is just to keep the body from producing estrogen I felt it would have minimal interference to the Budwig plan. A month and a half later the wound started to heal and is now pretty much healed over. I have no pain and feel great. Of course now that I do both it will be hard to know which is the reason but I feel I am on the right route for me. The Budwig plan should show some results in 3-5 months so I would wonder why someone who admitedly had already tried several things would be on it 14 months and then attribute bad results to that plan. Budwig literature states that most failures are from not following the plan correctly. I understand that I too am compromising it to a degree but still believe that it is working for me. I guess I will know for sure at the next PetScan but for now I am just happy to be in the swimming pool again and feeling great. We all have to find our own path and I think feeling good about which way you choose is also very important.

No one here for a while. Well I haven't posted in a bit. DX in Feb. 13 - I had surgery back in March. Right Mastectomy with node disect.  Triple Negative. Grade 3 - Yeah from the time I felt the lump until it was all done it was like one bad thing after another.

Before I was diagnosed I had a very low Vit D level. Get ready for it. It was at a 9. I was also diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis back in 2008. So as you can see the last few years have been S***ty. I have a son that will be 3 in September. I have had every bit of my hope ripped from me slowly over the last 5-8 years.  I knew about Budwig before my surgery but I was so flippin terrified I went ahead and had surgery. The Triple neg and grade 3 freaked me out. I was so upset I had a nervous breakdown.

Now here it is July 2013 - I will tell everyone with my head held high that i have not taken one bit of chemo or radiation.  The very first scan for me will be in one to two weeks. More than likely an MRI because the doc will want to look for MS lesions as well. Well whatever, kill two birds with one stone. See if you can detect any other cancer because they sure didn't give me a pet or bone scan before surgery.

I started on the Budwig protocol 3 days ago. I am posting it here because I intend to give updates.  God bless each of you. It's a personal journey and each decision is weighed and above all do what you feel is right in your hearts.

Much love and I'll report back every so often.

LuvinMylife, good luck to you! I am looking forward to your updates on the Budwig.

Here is my update; it is now seven years past my breast cancer surgery and 9 years past my Leio surgery and I am doing Very Well. No cancer recurrence. And I feel great. Still on the FOCC. It has been 4.5 years, by now, and I will be for the rest of my life. And in the past year started taking a Krill Oil Supplement. Just as added insurance. More Omega3s. Anti-inflamation. 

As I said, long ago, our bodies want to live. Inflamation is what our bodies fight against. The constant toxic attack of our environment. But if we give our bodies the proper tools, they will fight for us.The FOCC, the D3. The anti-inflammatories.

And my new line of attack; fresh juice. By now, I drink a quart of fresh juice/day. From my great Hurom juicer. I am not claiming this has any breast cancer curative properties, but it does have health properties. And it is just delicious. 

All of our bodies have cancer cells; the healthy bodies destroy those errant cancer cells. The not so healthy bodies develop cancer. 

In the years prior to my two cancer diagnoses, my soul mate, the love of my life, died, unexpectedly. Literally, two weeks later, I was laid off from my job of 10 years. And during all that time, I ate nothing but processed foods. Four years later, diagnosed with the Leio cancer. 2 years after that, the breast cancer. 

Correlation is not causation, but that is certainly interesting. I think I gave myself cancer. Too much stress and I was giving my body nothing to fight it. 

By now, I am striving to give my body the tools that it needs to prevent cancer. With the FOCC, the D3, the veggie juicing. 

But the bottom line of it all, I just feel great! Isn't that what living life is all about?

Leia - Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry for your loss. I am fully convinced that stress caused my cancer, and I, like you, gave my body nothing to fight it. My diet was really crappy - a ton of processed food. I was in a bad car accident in 2008 - rear ended at a stoplight by a minivan going 45 mph. I had to have nerves in my cervical spine ablated - burned (5 procedures). It took almost 3 years to settle after suing the insurance company which did not help financially. I, too, was laid off, but found a job within two weeks, thank God.

Fast forward to May of this year.  4.2 cm IDC tumor and DCIS. I'm going alternative as well. Curcumin (8000 mg.), DIM, Vitamin D, and Omega 3s. I'm also eating much better than I have.

I'm in "excellent health" according to my oncologist. I am not going to mess with that, despite the fact that he tried to sell chemo and rads like he gets a commission on it. He's a very nice man and has agreed to keep seeing me even though he was "saddened" by my decision. The tumor is gone, and I had no node involvement. I will give my body what it needs to kill off any of the rogue cells.

I have just begun to look into the Budwig protocol and have tried following the diet for the past 2 days. I don't know if it's just "placebo" effect but I actually feel more energized already. I read somewhere the target was around 6-8 tsp of flaxseed oil per day - is this true? What about the grinded flax seeds when hormone positve?

Leia I noticed you wrote you only did the FOCC part of the budwig diet. That really sounds doable in the long run!
Im very excited to try this and see what happens. Thanks for posting about your experiences...

Leia thank you for your helpful and motivating post. I'm looking into so many things that it does become a little overwhelming... I just ordered 5 books I'm looking forward to reading.

At the moment I'm doing the FOCC part of the Budwig and avoid sugar and flour. Would it be okay to divide the CC part into half CC and half yogurt? I saw a video where someone blended banana into the mixture but then another place read that it was not allowed to add anything into the blend. Would it be ok to add banana or something else?

That being said the first few days were easy and I did well. That was followed by 3-4 days where I felt extremely tired, a bit nauseous and thirsty. Now things have begun to get better... I don't know if it's the diet or the fact that I had flu last week and am in bit of a vulnerable state. No matter what, it does FEEL good to be on this diet and although the taste was a little strange in the beginning I find myself looking forward to my FOCC meal!

I have tried the ketogenic diet as well. I'm searching for the most optimal diet for me... Who knows, maybe the FOCC turns out to be it, like it has been for you. Maybe a combination? What Ive recently thought about was a book which mentioned not mixing protein and carbs. On an upset stomach eat very simple. I thought, maybe eating very simple is good - not mixing a whole bunch of things, maybe just one or two ingredients?

Just one of many unanswered questions.

For many feeling-great-days to come.

The marg vs butter thing hasn't been debunked. Carbs come in two basic forms, complex as in fruits and vegetables and whole grains and simple, as in sugar, honey and those things that act on the blood stream like sugar, as in white bread, white rice, white potatoes. One can safely eat a high protein diet (low fat) in combination with complex carbs; eat strictly high fat protein and ketosis affects the kidneys in a very negative fashion. Margarine is now made without trans fats, butter is still a saturated fat and neither are good for you in large quantities. What gives you healing power is a balanced diet combined with exercise.,,and stay away from simple carbs. Two days a week fasting, either with a 500 caloric maximum OR a two day eating only protein (with a max of 50 g of carb if you want) results in significant improvement for weight loss and blood profiles as long as you aren't goprging on donuts the rest of the week....balance.

a little update from me.

I've stopped the diet until I get a clearer picture of what has happened.

Almost simultaneously with the budwig diet I began having pain under my right rib/ above the liver. I didn't really connect the two until after a while so did the diet for 2 weeks until I decided to try and stop and see what happened.

Have been off the diet now for 3 days and the pain has gone away. Oh... I've been so worried . Still don't know the exact explanation to this but it seems more likely now that it has something to do with the diet.

Has anyone experienced anything like this?

I've never had gallstones but I actually thought it might be something like that although the pain was tolerable. And it was not like attacks but more like a little all the time, especially at night time. Felt like an open sore on the inside.

I'm kind of relieved because I think I can rule out the worst explanation because of the onset and disappearance of symptoms with the diet. However it would be nice to find the exact explanation... Must say besides from the pain in that area I really felt good on the diet and i also miss my FOCC breakfast...

Hopefully the pain will stay away the next days and then I might try out the diet for a few days to see if the pain returns again...