Alternative Treatment

dunesleeper:  I'm doing weekly Meyer's cocktail IV which includes vit C and other vitamins and minerals, plus some cancer support additives as the dr. calls them.  At the end I get an additional injection of alpho lipoic acid and glutathione which boosts the ability of the antioxidants to work more effectively.  I think it's kept my SE's from my tamoxifen to a minimum.  From what I've heard, they could be much worse.  These IV's are not inexpensive but worth it I think.

Sunflower, I read the blog post from the woman with the horrible SEs from rads. I don't think that is typical. It is certainly possible and some people will have at least some of those SEs, but not all of them.

Both my PT and my rad onc were very good about protecting my arm during rads, just as one example. 

Maud - and everyone - thanks so much for your encouragement.  You have each given me ideas about how to come to the best decision for me.

Today, I am leaning much more toward alternative and I will explain why in some later post, but I know, for me at least, it has to be a very personal, intuitive decision based on all the available information I can gather.

It is just shocking the more I learn about conventional treatments, doctors, $$$, Big Pharma and the FDA.  Just shocking!!!  I can't imagine how these men sleep at night!

Perhaps if enough of us research, study and unofficially conduct our own private trials we will, in time, be able to help others of us who choose to follow a similar path.

I know there is an answer to every problem.  God help us!! 

Maud, I have to no avail. That is why I was hoping that maybe someone here knew.

Yep, that last link works.  You can spend hours on "Life Extension" and get all kinds of valuable and validated information from articles and study information you can trust.

I first discovered it after reading Suzanne Somers' book "Knockout".  I can't say enough good about them.  Click on the Health articles' tab and search your heart out! 

Momine, all I know is that hypothyroid is linked to cancer. Conventional medicine treats that with synthroid, but according to my naturo doc, the levels they look for are low for optimal thyroid function. And then there is the T3 and the T4 and the TSH. Too confusing for me. I just know that some people recommend supplemental iodine to help the thyroid function better.

Here's a particular page at LEF with bc halfway down page.  For meI chose Detoxamine iodine, I did not test well for Iodonal or the other main brand at least not this time.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2011/oct2011_The-Silent-Epidemic-of-Iodine-Deficiency_01.htm?source=search&key=iodine

Supporting the liver, no matter what we are doing, that is imperative.  Abigail, I am not disagreeing in the least, but wondering what antivirals are you referring to that wreck the liver?  Because there are natural ways too.  And to not deal w liver support is to wreck it as well.  I need to do more.

Am not saying cancer is only this, but there are scientific theories that it is many things, sometimes a host aat once.  I prefer to act as if it is all in my, and transition to different ways to treat me and build up, heal and cleanse. I must admit, I do not have one original idea, thee thoughts are from two decades of reading and belief, then got hit w bc and started to knuckle down to what I needed to already know. 

The Vit C. h2o2 and UVB are all antivirals, antibacterial, antifungal and much more.  Also the protocols with MSM/collodial silver, MSM/olive leaf complex, MSM/LIPH water.  The one protocol I ended up w after the bioenergetic test was mainly for bacteria for me... hardcore to hit bacteria.  Which supported my own intuition that for me it was more bacterial, not only that but moreso. 

The other theories are that cancer may also be bacterial, meaning the bacteria has entered normal cells.  And that it may be fungal, same or that the fungus is around the cells and formed the tumor.  Of course, there is the sugar feeds cancer, but does it cause cancer. 

Then there is the MDR multi-drug-resistant cancer cells with the pump inside to push any drugs away from the crown of the abnormal cell which can end up with a fullfledged drug reissstant tumor, but there is also hope for that kind that need addressed with PawPaw or something proven like this. 

And bacterial, viral, fungal conditions, there is the Rife machine or even better the VIBE machine.

Back to the iodine, thyroid, Vitamin D3 and breast cancer.  Wish I had known all this when  I was dx w the thyroid.  Just was lost in a fog and memory block and could not pull it together while this got away from me, but now that I know, I have been told by integrative md to take 8000 - 10000 IU of D3 ea day, so use sublingual.  Am on teh iodine, thyrotain, and still on synthroid until better, but will be weaning to get better, cannot heal while on it I think.  I take selenium in my ActivaMune, so helps.  And the one thing that troubles me is the DIM (ActivaMune) has the cruciferous veegs I need for my ER+ but does it work against my thyroid issues?  Am off once again to the thyroid thread and DIM threads.

We will be moving all month, in fact all summer probably because no pressure is best.  Drovee aall around the aarea there today to do creative flow of should we or should we not, and we SHOULD LADIES AND GENTLEMEN !!! I love it more than I thought I would, lovely area, all classified forests and wildlife habitats registered.  Perfection.  Thank you universe! I feel so taken care of.

Kathy, thanks very much. What I get out of that is that it is not good to have a malfunctioning thyroid, a malfunctioning thyroid MAY contribute to breast disease and taking iodine can help regulate thyroid function. This would also suggest that if you have no signs of thyroid problems and you eat fish and sea salt, then there is probably little or no reason to add iodine in the form of supplements.

Kathy, I was assuming when I said,

There's a great thread on the Stage III forum of women who have not had progression despite massive tumours and many nodes. It's worth reading every now and then to provide hope and encouragement. 

that you realised I was talking about hope and encouragement, not treatments.  If fact if you believe that chemo and other conventional treatments are not as good as they are made out to be, and the women of the stage III thread may not be eating as healthy as a dedicated alternative person, then you can take even more encouragement from seeing these women survive so long after whatever treatments they chose to do.  Hope is possibly an important factor for those who survive long term as our moods directly affect our biochemistry.

At the very top of the stage III forum there's a pinned thread "Stage 3 Five Years+ Out-Check In ! " and another unpinned thread called "Positive nodes with long term survival" where I see DianeEssa and Momine have posted recently so it seems we are in good company.

KathyS7:  I don't think MJB died from chemo complications as much as from neglect on her dx and treatment.  She survived the first round of treatments, but ignored a pain in her shoulder that continued to get worse.  She didn't see a doctor for it until it was too late and by then the bc had spread so far that it was out of control.  It was very tragic and sad.  Something similar happened to a friend of mine with lung cancer.

 The take away lesson in all of this is once you have cancer, you can never just ignore the little aches and pains that persist.  They must all be checked out as though they are serious..even if they turn out to be nothing.  We all do it...I am famous for ignoring pain long enough that it just goes away on it's own.  I can no longer afford to do that.  Any progression caught early enough can be controlled.

One of the most inspiring stories on BCO is that of Marybe (you can read about her on Between The Red Devil and the Deep Blue Sea thread)  She is amazing in attitude and perseverence.  She has followed a very conventional path, does nothing alternative, doesn't particularly eat healthy or do a lot of exercise, yet has lived with mets for many years.  She is now taking a very strong chemo drug (something they call the red devil) for liver mets and seems to be again winning the battle.  She handles these powerful drugs with little or no SE's that she complains about.  Her story is a must read for anyone facing a long battle with bc. 

Thanks, Kaara! I'm seriously considering not doing chemo even as a Stafe IIIC w/12/12 nodes positive.



It is The Red Devil that my MO wants to give to me. I think it's way much, too soon. That's why I'm getting a 2nd opinion Tues.



They took the tumor out w/clear margins and I'm on anastrazole, which has been working. I think I should save The Red Devil for when I have mets. I hear you can only take so much in a lifetime because of its toxicity.

Kathy, it is striking how similar your diagnosis is to Joy's.  I believe she did only two rounds of chemo and it did not include the red devil which I can tell you is BRUTAL