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  • Sunrise79
    Sunrise79 Member Posts: 25
    edited March 2012

    Hi Ladies!



    Well, I got my pet scan results on Thursday in prep for surgery. My lump is gone and the report even stated there is evidence of my tumor being resected (removed) yet I havent had a surgery yet!



    So, after, chemo almost killing me and not being able to complete it, and my lump being so close to my chest wall and having vascular invasion, I have opted to have a BMX. Is that crazy? When the surgeon came in she said we can schedule the lumpectomy, i looked at her nd asked how she felt bout a BMX. I gave her my reasons, she understands. She said she has had some of her young patients choose this option. So, next Friday I go under the knife.



    I am 33 and i have two kids and i want to feel like I did everything I could to ease my peace of mind. I am afraid of looking back and saying what if...



    Did any of you ladies choose to have a mastectomy instead of a lumpectomy?

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited March 2012

    That's awesome news, Sunrise!!!  At 38, with a 6 year old, I chose BMX.  It ended up being the right decision as they found atypical cells on the left side (non cancer side).  I think for the peace of mind and symmetry, you are making a good decision.  After my MRI showed a tiny fleck on the left that needed to be biopsied, I made the decision right then and there that I would just go with a BMX vs. UMX.  

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited March 2012

    I also chose BMX and don't regret it one bit. Was given the choice of lumpectomy, UMX or BMX. All Drs (except my Aunt, she's my ob Gyn) said it was my decision, they wouldn't steer me one way or the other. My Aunt emphatically said "do the BMX and get it over with". When I told my BS what I decided, we could see he was "physically relieved, gave a big sigh" and said he thinks I made the right choice. Also, I couldn't believe how supportive the nurses were in the hospital. They also said it was the best thing to do, they see so many women coming back. I was also surprised how many nurses had breast cancer...three of the nurses taking care of me were BC survivors, the youngest 33.

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited March 2012

    momof3boys....I had nurses, too, that were survivors!!!  Isn't it weird how that happens??? 

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited March 2012

    Sunrise I totally agree with you. My tumor has pretty much melted away from chemo. It was almost 5cm and now my onc can't even feel it during an exam. Being 30 with 2 little ones, it feels like the right decision for me. I haven't met with my surgeon yet to discuss it, but my onc agrees with me.

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited March 2012

    markat - congrats on being done!!!

  • momof3boys
    momof3boys Member Posts: 896
    edited March 2012

    Dougieswife: yes! Even the nurse that checked me in for my BMX had BC. So that makes 4... That I had contact with at the hospital... Geesh that seems like a lot.

  • Sunrise79
    Sunrise79 Member Posts: 25
    edited March 2012

    Dougieswife - my kids are 9 & 5. My surgeon said she would biopsy the lymph nodes only on the left side, I'm curious if they will find anything on the right side at all.



    Momof3boys- I agree with your aunt. When I found out it was my hormones driving this runaway train, I told my oncologist, take my breasts, take my ovaries, let's go. I had medt him less than 5 mins before that. He told me to slow down a bit.



    Markat - I knew it was getting smaller, but just getting the report helped ease my mind, but made me feel better about my decision.





    Thanks for your replies, it helps me right now knowing that I'm feeling nervous about the surgery, not my decision. I truly appreciate it. Thank you.

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited March 2012

    Markat thanks for the well wishes, I am glad you got good news today. We all deserve done good news! I am happy to say my picc line is out and a rang the bell very loud to announce the completion of my chemo. That damn picc was a thorn in my side for the last 18 weeks so I feel liberated to have it gone. I know that cone Friday I will feel a little crappy but better by Wednesday. They had helium balloons tied to the outside railing when we got home. The balloons were to be launched representing the end of chemo!



    Kelly best wished to you tomorrow! Ring the bell and don't look back.



    It is funny how when we are in the dr's office they talk about how young we are like it is not of the norm. I myself am beginning to think that this disease is attacking more of the 35-45 age group more than ever. So I keep exercising and had a discussion today with my onc about removing those ovaries, she didn't seem to think that is necessary. What is everyones medical team saying about this?

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited March 2012

    YAY for being finished!!!!!  I get to ring the bell on Wednesday...then just herceptin for the rest of the year.  I, too, would love to have my ovaries removed, but no one has said yes to that idea...YET!

  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited March 2012

    So many crossing the finish line! Very excited for each and every one of you!

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited March 2012

    Lori, why are they telling you no to the ovary removal? I know they will consent if I insist....at least I think so.

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited March 2012

    I'm not ER+, just HER2.  HOWEVER....I'm going to print this chart that I found on Herceptin's website that said HER2 cells can be found on the ovaries and see what they have to say about that.  Ovarian cancer scares the crap out of me because I have always had bad cramps and cysts and bloating as the norm for me, which, I think are all the symptoms of ovarian cancer, too. (other than the cysts) Those are my reasons that I want to have them removed.  I just figure that whatever I can get taken out to reduce risks, I will.  Maybe I will lighten up about it all when I am on the other side of all of this stuff.  

    With being ER+, you should have no problem convincing them, I woud think.  I know that when we were being told everything that "could" happen in the very beginning, they said if mine were ER+ that I would have them removed.  I haven't talked to my OB/GYN yet about it, but hoping I can get her on board with it. 

  • Sunrise79
    Sunrise79 Member Posts: 25
    edited March 2012

    After my surgery I still have 2 more rounds of TCH to finish. And if getting rid of my ovaries would stop these damn hot flashes I'm all for it!

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited March 2012

    Whata - thanks!  I will still have to go back to the infusion center until December for Herceptin but being done with TCH is going to be great!  I don't know if they have a bell, but if they do I will be ringing it!

  • victorious2012
    victorious2012 Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2012

    Ladies, thank you for the discussion on the BMX.  As I near the end of chemo (2 more tx left), I am starting to get less confident about my decision to have a BMX.  I know it's the best choice from a risk of getting another BC perspective.  But I'm starting to dread losing my girls.  But hearing other women that are in my same boat making the same decision really gives me encouragement.  I am 38 and have two young kids.  I definitely need to be around to see them grow up.  Plus, I'm BRCA+ and my BS says BMX is really the only choice for me. 

    Sunrise, having ovaries removed actually likely to kick you into menopause and cause more hot flashes.  I actually went to see my OB-GYN today to discuss having my ovaries removed and was shocked when she recommended not doing it now because of my age.  She said the early menopause would cause havoc on my body including hot flashes and possibly even osteoporosis.  I was surprised by her reco because I'm BRCA+ and many of us get ovaries removed.  I do plan to get a second opinion so I can make a good decision. 

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited March 2012

    Sunrise - I opted for the bmx when I tested positive for brca2. That's also why the ovaries are probably the next on my hit list. There are plenty of reasons to consider a bmx. I found once I started getting my mind around about a umx, the bmx almost became a no-brainer. Good luck with your decision. And fantastic news on the scan!

    whatashocker - I'm ER- so I don't know whether there are any levels of being ER+ that would be the minimum for suggesting an ooph. It's definitely worth having the conversation.

    Markat - Congratulations on your last tx! Just a few more days and that light at the end of the tunnel should start heading your way.

    I had a pretty good day, including a good orchestra rehearsal. I'm so thankful that, other than missing some rehearsals because of being so tired, none of the SEs have seriously affected my violin playing - or my work, for that matter. I heard so many stories about serious chemo brain and neuropathy, and while I've had some tingling, so far my hands are still functioning at about normal level. Who knows what happens after #6, but I'm thankful I've made it this far.

    I haven't heard about the bell-ringing - is that a tradition at some infusion centers?

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited March 2012

    Victorious - It can be a tough call. I'm pretty sure I'll have an ooph sooner than later - but the osteoporosis risk is scary. I'm only 4'7 with a history of it in the family, and I don't like the idea of shrinking to 4'5 or shorter. As for the girls, yes, it's sad to lose them, and no plastic surgery will ever make them completely like the ones you were born with, but there are so many options out there for reconstruction. Ultimately you have to weigh the risks with your emotions and then follow your gut.

    I actually started tearing up as I wrote that, so yes, while I'm glad I had my bmx, I do miss my girls. But I've still got some great cleavage (TEs for now). 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited March 2012

    Ding dong my chemo's done!  Just finished my last TCH today.  Now it's time to move on to Herceptin alone, rads and Tamoxifen.  Yay!!

  • Sunrise79
    Sunrise79 Member Posts: 25
    edited March 2012

    Congrats Kelly! I have 2more to go, but will finish those after I recover from surgery, then Herceptin for the rest of the year.



    Take it easy, and did they have a bell?

  • Eileenohio
    Eileenohio Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2012

    Hooray!!!!! Glad the chemo is over. Hope you have a wonderful weekend with minimal SE's. Hope the CO-Q10 is the magic help for your muscle pain.  Continue to hang tough-you inspire me.

    Hugs   Eileen

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited March 2012

    Kelly, did you ring the bell? How does it feel to be done? Does it feel like you are one step closer to your life.

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited March 2012

    YAY for being D-O-N-E, Done!!!

    Here's a little interesting thing that happened today.  I met with the research nurse for my shingles vaccine today and I was telling her about my plan to tell the dr. that I would only do #6 if I could have an overnight stay at the hospital for fluids and pain meds, etc.  #5 was horrid...even with all the nausea meds I still ended up in the ER for fluids and throwing up the whole way to the hospital...not fun.  ANYWAY...she says, why don't we just move your tx day to Thursday, that way your bad day will be Monday and you can just come here all day for fluids.  EVERY tx I get horribly sick Sunday late afternoon...like clockwork!  So...my final tx will be on THURSDAY not Wednesday next week.  I hope this plan works!!  The only thing that worries me is the 45 minute drive and the potential for feeling really bad on the way home.  

    OMG...I typed this all out HOURS and HOURS ago and thought I had posted it...oops...NOT!!!! 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited March 2012

    Thanks everyone on the congrats!  There was no bell to ring Frown.  I do feel one step closer to getting my life back.  I know this will be the last weekend that I will have to deal with the SE's, although I have been pretty lucky.  I guess it didn't really feel like my last time because I still have to go to the center every three weeks until December to finish my Herceptin.  But it's OK....still a huge relief to get the bad stuff done!  I feel like I can conquer anything now!

    Lori - I hope the change in day helps your process for your last treatment.  I feel so bad that you get hit hard with those nasty SE's.  Small consolation I'm sure, but it will be the final treatment.  If they have a bell and you are in any shape to ring it....go fo it!  I am sending prayers for minimal SE's.

    I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!  Love to you all!

  • Peacock
    Peacock Member Posts: 86
    edited March 2012

    Hi. Lots going on with the ladies here!



    I also chose BMX, tho could have gone with UMX or a nasty Lumpectomy. The surgery and recovery aren't a whole lot worse btw UMX and BMX, and I have great peace of mind.

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited March 2012

    Congrats Kelly!!

    #6 is kicking my butt..but I can handle it.  Maybe the loaded me up or something.

    My onc is saying no to the ooph because she feels that tamox is more effective.  We haven't really started talking about hormone therapy yet though.

    Seacret haven't heard from you in awhile...hope you are doing ok!!

  • Baileybump
    Baileybump Member Posts: 172
    edited March 2012

    Lori - sounds like a great plan for your final chemo.  I hope it works for you!  Your splinter story made me laugh out loud.  I hope your toe is feeling better.

    You are all crossing or getting close to crossing the finish line.  Woo hoo! 

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited March 2012

    Kelly - Congrats! I hope the SEs have gone easy on you.

    Lori - It's good they were able to switch your schedule. Thursdays has worked great for me. Good luck with the drive.

    Markat - Sorry you're having a rough go at it this time. Hang in there. And that's fantastic that the tumor has shrunk like that. That's pretty good reassurance considering what we have to go through to get there.

    I'm trying to get my head around everything I need to do before my last tx Thursday. Gotta get the taxes done, a little cleaning, and with Passover two weeks away, I want to at least start cleaning out my kitchen and do some shopping. I might have to have someone come with me. Passover shopping is always exhausting any time... At least I'm feeling pretty good, but tired. Had to sit down while sorting out the laundry. I'll take some 'me' this afternoon and go for a manicure with a friend. And my next orchestra concert is tomorrow. I've managed to hold on to that fortunately - I was worried chemo brain, neuropathy or other SEs would force me to stop, but so far, I'm okay. Little blessings... 

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited March 2012

    Today is day 3 of my last tx.  I feel pretty good except I got hit bad yesterday with some Big C.  Ugh!  To me that is the worst!  I pounded some MOM last night, no luck so I took some Miralax thins morning....sweet relief!  Now I feel like a human being again.  Sorry if this is TMI ladies but I imagine we've heard it all and who else can I tell this stuff to?

    The weather has changed here in Ohio and it's dreary and 60 today.  Actually I am good with that as it will force me to do some work in the house.  Tomorrow is usually when the pain hits me so I will try to make the best of today.  Thank God it's the last time I have to do it!

    Markat - I hope your SE's ease up on you.  It sucks that we can't cross the finish line feeling good.

    Rachel - Good luck to you on your last tx next week.  You've done amazing with work and staying in the orchestra...not alot of people could do that.

    To anyone else I missed....I hope everyone has a peaceful and enjoyable weekend.

  • Eileenohio
    Eileenohio Member Posts: 460
    edited March 2012

    Hooray,  I am so happy to hear that you are doing well so far,hope it continues and that you have had your final chemo side effect. Now dear Kelly, I can not wait to see how long it takes your hair to grow.  Let the growing begin!!!!

    It is dark and gloomy in Solon today also,but we really can not complain.This has been the best winter and spring that I can remember and I will be 74yrs old soon.   Don't overdue it cleaning,enjoy the weekend.

    Hugs  Eileen

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