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  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Mardibra - I know what you mean, I am also 45 and feel like I'm 80 most days.  It sucks the big one and I'd rather chew glass too....great analogy!

    Gator - I hope you feel better soon too.  This disease just keeps on giving, huh?  Infected toenails....just one more bonus.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Gator and Mardibra - I hope you both feel better.

    I'm hanging in there, but I'm also feeling old and worn down now. I managed to make oatmeal, but kept sitting down on the foot stool in between. My mind sort of flits between feeling normal and then taking a break to wander...wherever. And two fingers on my left hand have decided to start going numb. So much for avoiding neuropathy. Just keep slugging away, gals. It's still supposed to be better than the alternative, I suppose.

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited February 2012

    Treatment 4 seems to be kicking everyone's butt...it sure is mine. Usually, by Monday, I am seeing light at the end of the tunnel, but I can't even make it to the bathroom without feeling 80. The nausea is so much worse this time it seems. I am so thankful that our Y has a school's out club so I could send my 6 year old there to play all day and not worry about him. There is no way I could have taken care of both of us today.



    What totally sucks is that you feel like crap, but know if you eat something you will feel better, but can't even fix anything for yourself because you are so weak. I don't even know what to keep on hand to just grab and eat. I keep saying, just 2 more, just 2 more.



    The bone pain has been much better this time. I will be thankful for that!! We purchased a sleep number bed the week before treatment and it came in early. I think that made a huge difference. I made it a little softer and it has been like being surrounded by pillows and so much pressure has been taken off my hips.



    Hopefully everyone is feeling better very soon!!

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    dougieswife and rachel - sorry you guys aren't feeling well.  #4 kicked my butt too.  I just try to keep in mind it will be over soon....only 2 more to go.  It's the only thing that gets me to go back again for this torture!  Feel better ladies...gentle hugs.

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited February 2012

    That is what I keep telling myself. 2 more and I will be done. 

    More torture on Thursday....... then I will have 1 left. hallelujah!! 

  • markat
    markat Member Posts: 909
    edited February 2012

    My thoughts are with all of you feeling bad. I hope you all feel better soon.

  • GracieG
    GracieG Member Posts: 118
    edited February 2012

    For all of you suffering, I am so sorry. Today my bone & nerve pain set in and will most likley be around a couple of more days. Just waiting now to see if I get the low grade fevers I usually run at this time.

    Just keep thinking how close you are all coming to the end.

  • Gator65
    Gator65 Member Posts: 72
    edited February 2012

    Gracie, I hope you it won't be too bad for you. You will be in my prayers. Looking at your signature line, we were diagnosed 5 days apart and had surgery on the same day! What a coinkydink!!

    Thank you markat, hope all is well with you.

    rachel - I know it sucks. I can so relate to the mind wandering "chemo brain". My fingertips are a little numb, it is my feet that bother me more. I am usually tired as hell, but I am hopped up on steroids so I feel like I could conquer the world right now. It is 1:21 am and I have to get ready for work at 5:30 am. LOL tomorrow is going to suck! 

    Kellogs - I know, right? I don't need anymore "presents" lol

    Dougieswife - I am so lealous of your sleep number bed! I would love to get a new mattress but that just is not in the cards... :( 

    I am going to try and rest for a few. Good night my friends!  

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    So yesterday I went to work, came home and fixed dinner for the family, cleaned up the kitchen and intended to sit down to watch the news.  As soon as my ass hit the chair I was out for an hour!  I am not used to having so much fatigue and so little stamina for everyday things.  I feel like I could go to bed at 7:30 every night....which I haven't done since the 3rd grade!  I keep telling myself....one more month, one more month....

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Kellogs and Rachel and all the other ladies who accomplish so much while going through treatment you all amaze me with what you do.



    I sometimes whether I don't push myself enough.



    Has anyone else been told they are anemic and given any ideas how to help with it? My onc said diet won't help and no supplements.



    A good day to all, Laura

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Laura - Your MO said diet and supplements won't help with anemia? Maybe you have a special form, but the standard approach is an iron-rich diet (red meat, dark green leafy veggies like spinach, broccoli rabe and kale) and iron supplements. There may be a reason he/she doesn't want you on iron supplements, but I would ask if there is a specific reason why you should not take them. And in the meantime, do try to get the other things in your diet. Yes, chemo will probably reduce your red blood count, but that doesn't mean there aren't things you can do to make it less of a problem. And don't push yourself - we each know ourselves best. I probably should be listening to my body more than my mind, because sometimes I overdo it. This is a temporary period in our lives. Let yourself heal through this, and you'll come out stronger when it's over. Then you can push life to the very limit you want to enjoy when you can.

    Speaking of listening, I am staying home today. The fatigue is less, but the thought of not leaving the apartment is just... good. Plus I may have thrush, so I'm waiting to hear from the MO.

    Kelloggs - I hope you're rested. Take it easy. 

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Rachel while I'm sorry you are not feeling up to par, I am glad you will take time for rest and to care for yourself.



    I have added red meat to my diet as well as molasses and some dark green vegetables and will ask her again about a supplement.



    I have read on other threads about women months past treatment that still have anemia.



    Thank you Rachel, feel well.



    Laura

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Thanks rachel.....I'm trying to rest as much as I can but I have to work right now.  My DH is a cement mason and is laid off right now so my income is the only one besides the piddly amount left from unemployment after child support is paid!  Glad you are staying home today....envious!

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited February 2012

    Ladies, is anyone else having problems with their feet? My feet are full of blisters. I got them after walking on the treadmill a week ago and they haven't gone away. This is a problem because emotionally I need to exercise as I am not working through this ordeal. In some ways I wish I was working as it would make my days go by quicker. But I do have full coverage so I opted to take time off. I am going in for number five next Wednesday so this week I hope will be a good week. Either than the feet and the no eyelashes and the no eyebrows and the no hair and the no boob, lol. God if I must look amazing! My poor husband he still looks at me the same. Not sure how he does it.



    Rachel, I am very happy to hear you took the day off. How are you feeling today?

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Kelloggs - I'm sorry you have so much pressure to keep going. Willing some strength your way. You're pretty strong to have kept it up this much. I actually did work some today, though not as much as I thought I would. If I didn't have that option I'd probably have dragged myself in today.

    Whata - Blisters too? Haven't heard of that one, but if your skin is dry and thin, maybe it just got damaged real easy. I hope you find something that helps. I hope this really is a good week for you. And cheers for the DH - you know they love you when they can see past all the stuff that we know is 'missing' and still find the good stuff!

    My day in a nutshell:

    Thrush - bad. MO/nurse that doesn't return early morning or mid-afternoon call for rx - baaad and annoying.  Pharmacy clinic that might be able to write prescription - good. Clinic nurse who finds I have a low temp and doesn't want to just send me off with rx if there's something more serious - well, good, but temp - baad (threat of ER - baaaaaaaaaad!!!!!). PCP who doesn't get back to me when clinic nurse calls to see if they can slip me in rather than hitting the ER - not cool, but I'll give him a pass since it was a longshot. Me chewing out receptionist at MO's office when I called for a third time - okay, bad, I'll admit it. (Triage nurse, after asking my name and DOB, asking 'Now, are you a chemo patient?' - ????????!) MO's nurse finally apologizing when she gets on phone, telling me there wasn't enough detail in my messages - Doh! ("I think I have thrush." Did I miss something?). Temperature back down - gooooood! Going back to pharmacy to pick up prescription 10 hours after my first call to MO - FINALLY!

    If I didn't have a sense of humor, I'd be sunk. 

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited February 2012

    Rachel, sorry your mo's office was being poopy heads!!! That does stink!!! Glad it all worked out in the end.



    I got to make phone calls today and luckily, mine all got answered. Had 3 nose bleeds this morning and the last one took 25 minutes to stop. That was the nastiest thing ever. Told them I was still feel weak and dizzy. Had to watch myself for the day and push fluids. Called back, still not feeling better, made appointment for tomorrow morning for fluids. They ended up not having a spot for me so instead I am getting my fluids tonight at the ER. Best answer. Hoping I will feel human tomorrow.

  • victorious2012
    victorious2012 Member Posts: 61
    edited February 2012

    Hello ladies.  I am new to posting on this thread but I read it often.  After finishing 4 AC, I am getting my butt kicked by Taxotere.  I thought T was suppossed to be "better" than AC.  I'm not so sure so far.  I have never been so tired and useless in my life.  I've been bed or couch ridden for the last 5 days with body aches and low fever.  I do get Nuelasta, but I've had it four times before with no problem so I really think its the Taxotere raising the havoc. 

    And Rachel, I got thrush too on Sunday after my 5th tx.  Talk about adding insult to injury.  Got a prescription for Nystatin mouth rinse.  It has helped.  All I know, is that the Taxotere made the back of my tongue very dry so I think that may have caused the thrush.  I don't know how I will get through 3 more of these.  I am miserable.

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Rachel what a day! You must be be exhausted. I hope you can finally get relief from the thrush.



    Victorious, I am sorry you are feeling so awful. Have you spoken to your onc? I have not had taxotere but others here may have information to offer.



    Praying for relief and comfort.



    Laura

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Whata, not sure about the blisters. I find I have to wear really unconstricting shoes though.



    It is lovely to hear so many of you have such supportive loving spouses or significant others. As it should be, but so good to hear.



    Dougieswife that had to be frightening. Hoping the fluids help.



    Goodnight again ladies.

  • Kelloggs
    Kelloggs Member Posts: 965
    edited February 2012

    Here's to a new day and resolution of the nasty SE's for some of you.  Rachel - I hope you can get something for your thrush.  It sucks you have to deal with the back and forth crap when you feel like crap!

    I hope everyone has a good day Cool

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Lori - I hope the fluids helped. Sorry you had to wind up at the ER to get treated. Have you tried using a saline spray to moisten your nose? It might help keep some nosebleeds away. That long one must have been scary.

    Victorious - Glad you found us. I'm sorry the Taxotere is hitting you so hard. Keep hydrating (I also use a vaporizer for the nighttime since I'm a mouth breather). It doesn't help that all of this is cumulative, regardless of what they're pumping into us. Hang in there, and we'll help each other along the way.

    Kelloggs - Amen!

    Laura - Thank you as always for your kind and gentle support. How are you feeling?

    If nothing else, at least the fatigue seems to have disappeared this time. Either that or I'm just still pumped up from yesterday's stress. Swishing regularly, so hopefully the thrush is on its way to being history, but I guess it will still take a few days. I'm also sending thoughts that everyone has an easy day with no/minimal SEs.

  • seacretgardn
    seacretgardn Member Posts: 269
    edited February 2012

    Hi Rachel, thank you for asking. Just 2 of 12 taxol so far. AC was a nightmare, but very very fatigued so far. I've heard so from others as well.



    Rachel are you just swishing with the nystatin, or do they have you swallow it as well? After my first bout with thrush, the chemo nurse said as soon as my mouth felt "weird"' to start just swishing it. Seemed to help or at least lessen the severity. Hope it resolves quickly for you.



    Ok ladies, good day to all,



    Laura

  • victorious2012
    victorious2012 Member Posts: 61
    edited February 2012

    Good morning ladies.  I feel a bit better after my rant last night. Also hoping for a minimal SE day.  I'm going to attempt to actually leave the house today and take my daughter out on a play date.

    Laura - thank you so much for the supportive words and prayers.

    Rachel - It took about two days of swishing for the thrush to go away.  Although I am continuing to use it for good measure.  I am supposed to swallow it.  I do it when I can, but sometimes I will spit it out if I can't bring myself to swallow it.

    Any advice on how to prevent the thrush from happening again?  It is no fun on top of everything we're dealing with.

    Wishing everyone minimal SEs today.

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    My bottle's directions said to spit it out, but my Mom, who's a nurse and had thrush just a few months ago, said you really need to swallow it because it could have already started to spread down your throat a bit. Of course, one of the main SEs of nystatin is.... diarrhea! Which I had started to experience on Monday. That, and the Norovirus is lurking around the college I work at. So I have no idea what's causing anything anymore - I just blame it all on the chemo!!!

  • Baileybump
    Baileybump Member Posts: 172
    edited February 2012

    Dougieswife -- how are you feeling?  I hope the fluids have you feeling better.

    Victorious -- you CAN do it.  Just take one day at a time and don't look too much into the future (like to your future treatments).  Glad you're feeling a little better today.

    Rachel -- the Norovirus is going around in this area, too.  I keep hoping to avoid it.  No one needs THAT on top of everything thing else.  Be as careful as possible! 

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited February 2012

    Baileybump...great this morning, then bad again, then good, now bad again....blech....and hey, we are practically neighbors...I'm in Franklin, Co PA!  AND, yes, the norovirus is going around here, too!

     I have a confession...I've been scheming this all night.  My husband has been so great, he has been doing everything....but I've been wondering what it would be like for my next 2 treatments to just go to the hospital, check myself in, have someone check on me, bring me food, keep me hydrated and I don't have to worry about anything.  He does go to work, but he gets up at 3am and doesn't get home till 5pm or later...so he crashes out around 8pm and then I still have my 6yr. old.  

    Here is my issue...I feel like garbage, but I need to eat and drink and rest...but I can't even muster the energy to feed myself and NOTHING sounds good at all.  My house is BEYOND trashed so I don't want anyone over to "help" and see this disgusting mess.   I think I am going to take an Ativan and try to go to sleep.  

  • rachelvk
    rachelvk Member Posts: 1,411
    edited February 2012

    Lori - Have you looked into Cleaning for a Reason? I haven't had any success (their local service is always 'full') but you might try. They offer several free house cleanings for cancer patients. I also think if you can line up a few people to check in on you at chemo to give your husband a break, that's great. We do have to rely on people so much now, it makes it extra special I think when we find a way to give the a break. It's just hard to arrange sometimes!

    One other service I just found out about for those in the PA (and AZ) area: The Hope Supply Company. It's a warehouse of home goods (including mattresses!) and once you get paperwork filled out by your MO that you're in active treatment, you can go in and get lots of things for free. The website is www.breastcancersociety.org. I'm definitely going to check it out. The PA one is just outside of Philly - not sure how much of a trek that is from where any of you are.

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited February 2012

    I found that comment from the onc nurse funny. The replacement onc I saw for my last treatment inferred that because I was young (44) and healthy I shouldn't have to many challenges with chemo. Doug's wife what age bracket did she suggest young was? Going to the hospital for your last two treatments seems like a brilliant idea. I wonder if there is friend or relative you can have come into the home about 8 to help with your daughter? Even maybe a teenager and they could keep her entertained while you relax nearby?



    As far as a messy home goes, I am sure the teenager wouldn't notice and considering what is going on in your life, try not to be concerned.



    I am nerving up to go in for #5 on Wednesday. The butterflies have started already. I just wish I could turn my mind off or at least to another channel. The non cancer channel.

  • etherize
    etherize Member Posts: 423
    edited February 2012

    Hello all, I haven't been to the site in awhile ... just finished tx #4 (out of 6 CMF) last week.  

    seacretgardn, I have a little anemia, too (and like you, I'm amazed by what everybody else seems to be able to accomplish during chemo!).  Do you know what your hemoglobin number is?  Mine is just below the low end of normal and my MO was not too concerned.  Even when it was as low as 9.6, he didn't say anything about supplements or diet.

    Fatigue is my biggest issue, I guess.  I'm sick of giving myself a shot every other day too (Neupogen).  But other than that, I consider myself really lucky as far as chemo goes. 

  • Whatashocker3
    Whatashocker3 Member Posts: 209
    edited February 2012

    Ladies, I have noticed your diagnosis date and first treatment date has several months in between the two. Some were diagnosed in August and their first treatment wasn't until December. Out of curiosity what happens in between. In my instance I was diagnosed oct 5, had surgery oct 15 and my first treatment was Dec 6.. Is there a delay for surgery?

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