I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Ang7
    Ang7 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited February 2012

    I second that, Scootaloo...

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited February 2012

    Blue - Good to "see" you - glad you're doing so well - hope your Mom's on the road to recovery (and Virgil too!).

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2012

    I "third" that.

    Yippeeee! We got breast cancer!! Pretty, pink and smiling!!! Just like a celebrity - yowza - how impressive!

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited February 2012

    Now ladies ... don't ya know it's kind of like being pledged to a sorority ... a period of uncomfortable hazing and then happy happy ever after.  Or so some of this pink and perky stuff would lead you to believe Tongue out.  

    Good to see you blue ... makes me smile to hear you are doing better.

    Sending (((hugs))) to Libby.

    Wishing Cheryl a fun filled birthday!  Or chocolate filled ... your choice.

    I'm so excited today ... I got my new toaster in the mail!  It's a 1950s GE and is all shiny mint condition perfection and I love it.  Goes with my 50s GE Potbellied coffee percolator.  I am not a shopper but I love to find good vintage stuff.   We've been using the coffee pot for almost 2 years now and plan to do the same with the toaster.  They just do not make stuff like they used to for sure. 

    Hope everybody else has a wonderful day also!      

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    WR - I heard an NPR show about coffee and the two gourmet coffee afficionado guests both agreed that percolation is a CRIME, an out-and-out CRIME, against coffee.  Be careful or I may introduce coffee bean personhood legislation.

    Speaking of all things terrifying, did you all see the forcible rape via transvaginal ultrasound and personhood bills passed the Virginia House?  So if the bills pass all hurdles, either early early abortions will be illegal in Virginia and/or if you want an abortion you must must must have a medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasound before you can have it.  Yes, folks, you must be raped by the government before you can make a decision about your own body.  This is not hyperbole - "rape" is exactly what would happen.

    Has anyone read The Handmaid's Tale, by the inimitable Canadian write Margaret Atwood?  It's the most frightening book I've ever read because it could happen.  And what do you know, it sure looks like things are heading that way.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited February 2012

    I'm gonna have to fight you on the percolator thing Smile

    Yes I read that book and got cold chills from it too.  We all need to wake up and realize that there are those out there who would like nothing better than to reverse all the equal rights women have gained in the last century.  And they are getting bolder and bolder ... who would think that they would be publically attacking birth control in this day and age?!  And why do a bunch of men in a legislature feel they have the right to practice medicine ... but only for women of course.  Haven't noticed them passing laws that a man can't have Viagra unless he proves he can support a child or anything like that have we?

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited February 2012
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    I think men should have to submit to a medically unnecessary catheterization, twice, before a doctor prescribes Viagra.  Just because.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    Okay, so - no contraception unless you can afford it, and no abortions.

    Persons who don't have the means to support a child either tell their husband "no" or get pregnant.

    Woman gets pregnant.  Probably can't afford daycare, so has to stay at home.  Husband's job doesn't pay the bills.  Oops....food stamps, no health insurance, etc., needs public assistance.....   Obviously, this is just one outcome out of many possibilities but it's not unreasonable.

    How can the far, far right think this is a good thing?  Oh, I know.  You just say no to sex.  'Cause that's practical.

    I just rolled my eyes so hard that they fell out of their sockets.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2012
    What is with all this focused attention on sex and matters sexual in the U.S.?  I'm fond of quoting a former Canadian Prime Minister, Pierre Elliott Trudeau who, as Justice Minister in 1967 said "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation".  

    If only many U.S. politicians would adhere to that sentiment.  Makes me think that this obsession with sex and women's control over their own bodies is both odd and highly questionable, and would certainly make me suspicious of their (probably) hidden intentions.  JMHO, of course!
     
    Blue -- SO GOOD to see you back with us!
     
    Rabbit -- Would love to see photos of both toaster and percolator! 
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    And who's going to pay for the medically unnecessary TVA?  Insurance companies?  The government?  WHO?

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2012

    Glad you're better Blue. Speaking of politicians controlling our lives Linda, what about our dill-hole prime minister (not capitalizing on purpose 'cos he gets no respect from me), deciding he's going to invade our private lives via internet.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2012

    gracie -  I share your concern about the internet, and about mandatory sentencing, and about the gun registry (although you may agree with that one), and just about everything else he has done, is doing and hopes to do.  But then, once they got rid of the Progressive in the name, could we really expect anything else?  Okay, even if the name WAS an oxymoron!!!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2012

    Okay, better to be on the safe side of the Mods!  

    Note to Gracie:  I agree! 

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2012

    Glad you're better Blue. Sorry to delete...made a comment without thinking it through.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2012

    Yes Linda.....makes me shudder, but I stand by my dill-hole comment! ....and I don`t like his face.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    WR -

    I grew up on percolated coffee and was totally unaware that it's a crime.  Coffee is the nectar of the gods, no matter what form it takes. 

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2012

    I had to take my Tassimo in for the re-call. I miss my coffee!!

    ETA: which begs the question, who lets their 2 year old stand in front of a boiling coffee maker

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    My brother got me a Keurig for Christmas and I love it.  However, the coffee cups are, pound for pound, as expensive as gold.  Hmmm.....a new currency standard, I'm thinking. A K-cup based economy.  I like it.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    Gracie - is that a riddle?

    Answer:  A zealot trying to teach their kids about personal responsibility and consequences?

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2012
  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited February 2012

    Silly Scooter ... they also want to do away with food stamps and public assistance and health care unless you got the $$$ to pay for it.   (sarcasm mode on) Cause you know the world is woefully underpopulated and we all need to go forth and multiply to make up the shortage. (sarcasm mode off)  And if you starve to death or die of an untreated medical condition later ... well sucks to be you I guess cause I'm not seeing any concern for that part of it.  

    Linda ... I will most gladly show off my relics! 

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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited February 2012

    I remember that toaster! I love vintage stuff ... DH bought me a vintage Mirro aluminum cookie press a few years ago because I kept whining about my last one that broke and all the new ones don't work right.



    Great to see you back, Blu! Things aren't the same without fearless leader!



    Thanks for the hug, WR. Explanation for the general readership: my sister died Tuesday (Valentine's Day) from complications of ILC mets. DX in early 2009 at IIIb, she progressed last November to Stage IV with peritoneal mets. They could never get good control of them (abraxane) and she contracted c.diff a couple of weeks ago at her rehab facility. She had her colon removed last week, and died of kidney failure at hospice. She was 69. I am pretty shattered ... My Stage II DIEP surgery is tomorrow. So far, 2012 blows worse than 2011 ... But my beloved friends here help me get through. To paraphrase the Beatles, "I get by with a LOT of help with my friends."



    Off to eat a whole package of Marshmallow Pinwheel cookies just because I can.



    Oh, and to throw a couple of sticks on the bonfire, government agencies are created by Congress, not by "gummint bureaucrats." And Congress passes the laws for agencies to enforce. The agencies have to create rules and regulations to meet the intent of Congress as expressed in the laws. It is like this: Congress provides the car body and tells agencies to make it go. The agencies have to come up with ways to make an engine, drive train, seats, etc., to make it go.



    And it is not illegal for government agencies to monitor emails of government employees. Official time, official equipment do not grant an expectation of privacy -- terms of employment, and disclaimers and warnings every time an employee logs on. Suppressing whistleblowers is illegal, but plain monitoring of employee emails is not.



    There. Trouble made, cookies to consume, and I am not even medicated.



    Love you all.



    L

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2012

    Good, good luck tomorrow, HL - don't be a stranger, even if it's through a messenger, otherwise we'll be very worried.....there's a reason why I hate New Year's celebrations.

    I love that percolator - distant memories. All I'm getting today by mail is a new karafe to replace the old one. Someone gave me a Target (pro-nounced "TAR-JAY") gift card for Xmas so used that online for the vital product. Been surviving on instant coffee for three days. I hate to say this, but it's not bad!

    Wish I'd seen what Gracie and Lindasa posted and deleted.....

    Happy Birthday to our Pastor and Chief Bartender!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2012

    HL -- You know we'll all be outside the OR wishing for the surgeon's steady hands, and then we'll head to Recovery and be there when you wake up!  Figuratively speaking, if course!

    Rabbit -- I got one of those toasters as a wedding present in 1970!  Funny how appliance styles stayed the same for a decade or three, while back then car styles changed dramatically every year!  

    Athena -- Gracie and I were sharing our disdain for a certain very, very senior (if you catch my drift) political figure up here.

    Cheryl -- Hope your day is turning out to be particularly nice for you, sweetie! 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2012

    Oh - on abortion, what about miscarriage? So if they have these "personhood laws" (BTW probably providing the fetuses healthcare that right wingers wouldn't guarantee for non-placenta people) and there is a spontaenous abortion through miscarriage, how do we know it isn't MURDER (play scary music).....surely every death must be investigated and autopsied, right? And what if the fetus dies and the mother doesn't know until the next ultrasound - or she can't afford an ultrasound so it's a stillborn.

    Manslaughter???

    (more scary music)

    Really, the knots we could get into with these people's thinking. Too may zealots with too much time on their hands. Meanwhile, the nation has important business at hand, like people who can walk but can't afford food.

    Lindasa: Drift caught. :-)

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited February 2012
    Condolences and hugs to HL--I'm so sorry to hear about your sister.

    Happy Birthday to Cherryl--have a good one!

    We're still on the road but the GPS says we're 20 minutes from home. A stop at the Post Office to pick up the held mail, and we'll be there. I am so ready to be home!

    otter
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited February 2012

    *muttering about fetal police*

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited February 2012

    Thanks, ladies ... And a special hug to Otter, also so recently bereaved. Dontcha wish you could just make it STOP?



    Two more funny stories from my day off to clean my house before keeping my date with my adorable PS. I went to the grocery today to get stuff for DH to eat while I am potentially unavailable. I got my Tylenol 3 and Duracef prescriptions filled too. I was quite startled to notice on the receipt on my way out that the grocery cashier had given me the senior discount. I am 54. !!! Their senior discount starts at 60. !!!!!!!! I sat down in the car (after a perfectly delightful conversation with a gentleman who was admiring my car, an FJ Cruiser, when we discovered we were former colleagues at a foreign affairs organization for which I had worked when I was just a sprout) and called DH. I told him I must look particularly haggard today, since the clerk had automatically given me the senior discount. Silence. I said, "Did I look bad this morning?" Trapped silence. "I don't know," said he. "It was still dark when I left." Nice dodge!



    Then, to top it all off, I forgot the prescription at the checkout stand. I did all my errands, returned home, and got the message that someone had found and turned in my prescriptions. What a day!



    L

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited February 2012

    HL - so sorry about your sister. I hope your surgery goes well

    Happy Birthday Cheryl

    Blue - good to hear you are a lot better - we've missed you

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