Early Stage Natural Girls!

I read somewhere on these threads that if you do rads it takes awhile before you can get an acurate themography because the radiation shows up as heat activity on your breast.  I can't remember who posted that.

impositive, have you heard back about your scans? How do you think your IV treatments are going? Keep us posted as I maybe following your treatment plan...who knows?

Princess, how are you doing? Just want you to know I'm thinking of you...and appreciate all your imput and encouragment. Stay strong

Where did Princess123 go? I hope that all the BS did not drive her away.

It is disappointing that princess would leave and allow those who have a bullying mentality to try and steamroll over this thread.  She had much to contribute, and I really felt that I received valuable information from her that was useful in my decision making process.

People who use an intimidating and bullying demeanor to get their points across have just not matured to the point where they can have an intelligent debate without resorting to these kind of tactics.  This is the set of skills that they possess, and they use them freely for as long as they can gain ground by doing so.  Sadly, this is going on all around us...it starts in very young children, and if not stopped, continues well into adulthood.  Many times, several will gang up and single out someone who they perceive as weak and target them over and over....sad....because on a site like this, people are here to find support and comfort, not to just make comments on news articles and such.  Anyone engaging in this type of behavior on BCO should be prevented from making further comments.  I'm surprised it is allowed to continue unchecked, but in spite of that, there is a way to deal with it.  

 I have encountered this on other sites like Newsvine, which is geared to business and political news.  On that site, if you encounter someone who is using these tactics over and over, you can choose to "ignore" them, which means that you can eliminate any of their comments from your viewing.  I see you can do the same on here, so if I was bothered that much by the intimidting tactics, I would simply use that option.  Don't allow yourself to become a victim of these predators.

I'll use a short story to make my point here.  I attended a seminar once where we engaged in an exercise whereby we were paired up with a partner and asked to tell a story of how we were victimized by someone else.  Everyone has one!  The key to the exercise and the aha moment came when the leader requested that we tell our story once again, but tell it from the perspective of "how we set ourselves up to become the victim"!  The message is that in most cases there are no victims...just people who set themselves up to become victims.

Let's not let this thread become a victim of those who don't want this information to see the light of day! 

Luna I have not done anything about my water yet exept I do have a whole house water filter system.  But one of my really good friends who is in to alternatives purchased a water distiller and they swear by it.  The one they got is all stainless and distilles one gallon at a time.  Takes about 4 hours.  They keep plenty distilled on hand. I don't now how that would compare to water with PH

I am so sorry that Princess23 felt she needed to leave.  I found her information very valuable.  I don't always post alot on here but I do read what all of you contribute and appreciate the information very much as I am making baby steps in making changes.

Bras causing breast cancer?

I don't think so. But one result of my breast thermogram, in September, the thermo images showed my breasts as mostly blue/green; a non-cancerous state. But the rings underneath my breasts, were yellow. Not red, which is bad, but yellow. And the thermo report said that could be caused by underwire bras, which I had been wearing, constricting the drainage of my lymph system.

Our lymph system is the sewer system of our bodies. The drainage, for all of the bad stuff. And if our bodies can't drain out the bad stuff, through our lymph system, not good.  

So,I don't wear underwire bras, anymore.  I went out and bought some GENIE bras. 

Leia-Do you like the Genie Bras??????

I bought them a while back and i loved them....then when my breast hurt i couldnt wear them.now im back to them....they do fit kinda funny BUT its cut so low under the arm that its actually the only bras that work when it hurts from the SN biopsy....go figure....i must have 25 bras BUT no underwire and the Genie is the nicest lookin ones i have....hope you like them too.

It also appears that sometimes people are projecting and misinterpreting the bullying.  Different people have different ways of getting their ideas out.  I know we all have choices, but I'm sorry to see sisters on this site giving other sisters who are in a very bad cancer position, very bad advice.  Actually encouraging her to forego life saving treatments.  Of course, I will now be considered a bully, Right?

I haven't been on these threads enough lately to know what was going on and why the person left.

But ... the proverbial but... I do know that any person who comes on Early Stage Natural Girls or Natural Girls or any of the other alternative or "Natural" threads is looking for that point of view.  They want information from that point of view to help them choose.  It is pretty obvious that we are all picking and choosing and deciding what we think best suits us.  It is a shame if people who have done a lot of research and are providing great links that save others' time are being run off. It takes FOREVER to research and sift through all the studies when you are first diagnosed and overwhelmed.  Back in 2009, I googled and googled but the ladies and a guy named Timothy were also doing the same and everyone was sharing.  This place is why I was able to choose and be happy about my choices.  There are people on these threads including Whippetmom over on Exchange City to whom I owe so very much.

Whatever you guys are referring to .... please, please keep in mind that a person would not surf the natural sites if they didn't want to hear from the adamant proponents.  Sometimes, they are looking for the excuse to do what they believe they should do even if it means going against other advice they are getting from docs or concerned family or friends.  I did that with Tamox.  I wanted to hear all the reasons not to do it to justify my plan to not do it.

I don't know how it is now, but way back anytime someone mentioned Suzanne Somers people would come over from other threads and berate them for reading her stuff.  So, then people start new threads in an attempt to stay on the topic they want without interference from people who already have threads pertaining to the topics they believe in.

I keep hearing great things about the Genie Bra. I am going to give it a try.....

I rarely wear a bra.

just a few wrds on the genie bra.....the good,the bad, and the ugly.

a while back there was a thread about the genie bra....i was in sooo much trouble with any bra that i ordered them...there was a lot of bad press about them too.and the return policy was supposed to be impossible...i ordered them anyway...out of desperation to keep trying to find comfort...at first i loved them....then i hated them....at first they were comfortable and was tellin everyone to get them.then they started to bother me so i stopped wearing them.i was sooo angry that i gave my GD 2 of them.NOW i tried them once again and im in love once again.....

bc the gift that keeps on giving!!!!!find a damn cure.enuf!!!!!!!!!!!

I rarely wear a bra anymore. It is good for the the lymph to get a little bounce going, and since I lost weight, and got half my breast sliced off anyway, who cares if the girls don't sit up anymore. I wear small tshirts and cammies most of the time.Heck in another lifetime we burned our bras. Who needs the damn things.

As for the controveries. I wonder if it will ever stop. I have been around here for years and the attacks on those who have gone holistic are non stop. It is such a shame. I will never understand why some people will not allow others to think outside the box. Why is it considered bad advice to tell people what I have been doing instead of drugs? Why are we accused of putting other people at risk for suggesting nutrition, supplements, or other holistic alternatives? I have learned that you can not only survive breast cancer, coming to terms with bad habits and being diligent about my choices has allowed me to thrive, with no drugs. I feel better than I have in decades, and I owe that to the choices I have made, against doctors orders. I have no fear of breast cancer returning because I know my body is healthier than it was before. So shoot me for telling others that alternatives work!

There are people here who just want to drive off all the "natural girls" with harrassment. I will never in a million years understand their motivation. In fact, I will never in a million years understand why anyone would even bother to read this thread if they do not believe in this stuff. I do not bother to read any of the other threads, because I am just not interested in other topics.

I first came here four years ago, looking for women's experiences with arimidex, which my doctors were pushing hard for me to take, but every bone in my body was resisting. When I read about how miserable women were with the side effects, I tossed the pills, and checked out those who were talking alternatives. The animosity was horrid, but there were woman who shared in spite of the threats. So even though I am so incredibly healthy now ( thanks to alternatives) I pop in now and then to encourage others to never stop fighting for what your own intuition is telling you is a better choice for you. Listening to that little voice got me to the doctor early, even when a mammogram did not show anything. I followed up on a lump I felt and it saved my life. I followed up on that little voice that told me there was a way besides drugs and I am so happy that I have no joint pain or premature aging brought on by the effects of arimidex. I can run up the 20 story tower in my town, walk miles without a problem and bike all afternoon with no pain and I am pushing 60.

It is our body. We have every right to choose what direction we want to go.

vivre:  I learned a long time ago that it is what it is.  It is very hard for people to change their paradigms (old ways of thinking)  and think outside of the box.  I no longer try to sway them over to my belief, but in turn, I would not let them attack me or turn me away from what common sense tells me is the right thing to do.

 It is so inspiring to hear stories about people who have been on death's door and survived in spite of everything they have been through.  Thanks for sharing that.  I would rather hear about someone who is a walking, talking testimony than all the "science based" evidence you could give me.

If the information we share on this thread helps one person, it was worth it, so we should just keep on keeping on and just ignore the attackers.  After all, they can't start a fight in an empty room! 

Hope it's ok for me to post this here. I saw a device at the pharmacy the other day which is being marketed as a breast awareness tool for home use by a British company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ota01GTrtes&feature=related

Anybody heard about this or used it? It's not a replacement for a mammo, its proponents say.