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Girls, thanks for all your support this week! My back pain has subsided alot. I believe the Neulasta was a big culprit. The clear scans helped to ease my mind and the anxiety subsided alot. This new normal is going to be hard, but we will get there.
Taxol #1 is done. Very sore muscles and joints, but otherwise ok. A littled tired, but nothing like a/c.
Congrats to all of you who are done! We have to stay in touch!
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Dexxy: I will have radiation as well. It just didn't get listed in that first posting. Mine will come after surgery, so it is some time off. Hopefully I can get Snoopy to add that.
Ana424: Thank you for the good thoughts. Right now I am hearing that there will be about a three week break after the last chemo treatment and surgery. So there will be some time to recover a little. I am pushing forward because this is just taking such a hit on stepping out of life, but I am not speeding anything up from what the doctors are suggesting we do. My health does come first. I just feel impatient to get this over with.
So I am pushing the healthy foods this week. I had some steel cut oats with strawberries, flaxseed and protein powder this morning. Breakfast and lunch have been a struggle because no one else is around to cook for and it's easy to just grab a bowl of Froot Loops or a frozen waffle. That's just not working! I feel like crap all morning when I do that. So I have been changing it up the last few days. I also have been eating a spring mix or spinach salad for lunch each day. But I am struggling to find an easy healthy meat to get into the salad for boosting the iron. What are your favorite salads ladies?
I plan on keeping going on this thread. I see the other threads that are similar to ours doing that. I appreciate all the relationships we have going here.
Frances: I have been meaning to ask how your cold caps worked out after all this time? Also, I hope you don't mind my asking, but have you lived in Singapore all your life? I admire how well you speak English, better than some of us. : ) I have a very good friend here who was born in California, but his family is from Hong Kong and he visits from time to time. I have learned that his culture is much more private about family and personal matters than typical Americans. So if you don't want to get into answering those questions, I am not offended.
Off to get my Neulasta shot. The only SE that I have going today is that my face is extremely red and warm. Has anyone seen that with Taxol treatments?
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Misswin - Are you having weekly Taxol or DD? Have you considered the possibility that your pains may be muscle tension? My PT has helped me a lot with some of my pains related to my TE, but also sometimes when I wake up my upper back is killing me and I can tell is because I am really tense. My 1st Taxol (or 12) will be next Wednsday.
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DD Taxol. My pain was all on the A/C. It has improved dramatically. We are not doing Neulasta with the Tax and I already feel a difference. I had the Neulasta after each A/C and the bone pain literally started on day 2 or 3 and never went away until it was time for the next round. Three weeks out of my system and boom, no more back pain, just muscle tension in my shoulders that goes away with OTC meds. I start PT and BC yoga this week and I hope both will help.
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misswim: That's kind of funny. When I did my A/C DD with Neulasta, I just had achiness for a couple of days, probably a level 3 out of 10. Now with Taxol DD with Neulasta it is more like level 8-9 for 3-4 days. I can feel it drifting in a little today, but not too bad yet. I have never heard anyone tell your version of the story. You must really react to the Neulasta! I bet you are really celebrating being done with that!
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Painting: It sucks when you get the "party line" bureaucrats in this process. I also don't like not being told something because someone thinks it would be paid for. They should present all the options that exist for you and then you can make an intelligent decision.
I know about steroid irritability. I'm in a little bit of that today as well.
My surgeon gave me the names of a couple of radiologists she likes and I'm going to ask my oncologist as well and then talk to the nurses and find out what they know. Then I'll make a decision. I need one that's open late so I can go after work. Not looking forward to that as a daily trip. Oh well. Part of the deal.
On a brighter note I kissed by 11 year old Pontiac Montana goodbye today and traded her in (with a lot of money) for a 2010 Nissan Altima, fully loaded. Didn't expect the fully loaded, but they had it in stock on the lot and wanted to move it out so I got a great deal. I'm looking forward to starting up my car and not having to clench my teeth and other body parts waiting for the damned check engine light to come up or something else to not work.
And now I have A/C again! I can start wearing hair to work if I want. No way I would to that with an unairconditioned commute. LOL
Actually, I went to the car dealer with my ex this morning in a wig and when I came back with my van for the trade in I traded in the hair for a hat. They were highly amused. It was fun.
Hope everyone is having a decent weekend.
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You have no idea. The neulasta is evil. I have some taxol soreness but it is nothing in comparison to what I was going through. My wbc went up to 26 at o.e point and 19 another. I fwlt the bone marrow pumping in my bones. Awful!
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JBug- sorry for the delayed response.... But yes. We often say WBC is "14" instead of 14,000 but it is the same. The CBCs I get are daily or every other day when we are trying to get the right number of neupogen shots. I don't have a spleen and my normal WBC is about 14 which is high compared to "normal". My situation is a little unique because I have low platelets from a immune disease. So when my body is busy making too many WBC, it slows down on making platelets. So that is why we switched to neupogen. Also, you can get iron supplements over the counter, just ask the pharmacist for ferrous gluconate if you are prone to the big C. You asked about feeling flushed or warm- I get taxotere but I do get that on days 3-4. low grade temp around 99.1. And steroids can do that too.
Painting- I have been reading a great thread... I think it's Hair Hair Hair.... They talk what to expect from hair growth PFC. Also as I get closer to being done with TCH chemo and moving on to rads, I will be reading the radiation threads. But my onc was very clear with me about radiation. There are a lot of centers but some are not conscientious. She said they the "bad" ones don't listen to the requests of the patients and often burn our skin when it really isn't necessary to get the job done.
Also, someone mentioned the eyes. On taxotere my eyes are very dry and watering a lot. I have been using naturals tears which helps but my under eye and along my eye lashes swell for several days about 2week after each tx. It may just be the dry eyes but I was also thinking it is my eyelashes falling out.... Kind of like when my scalp hurt when my hair was falling out. My eye lashes have been starting to turn funny directions then falling out since 2 weeks after my second tx. Still have plenty but thinning. Anyway, good luck to all. You are always in my prayers. -
misswim: Did you see my posts that mine went up to 47 last week? Crazy!! I thought I could feel it too. I started a post on the high wbc's because I was trying to figure it all out. http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/774463?page=1#idx_20
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Izzy325: Thanks for the info. It's interesting when my wbc went up so much, my platelets went down to the low end of normal. Previously they had been up above the normal range in the early days of treatment. I wonder if that is a typical reaction to see when the wbc's go up, the platelets go down?
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Not sure if it's typical. My onc said it shouldn't interfere with platelet production until WBC hits close to 70 but I think it's just an educated guess because every person is different.
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J-Bug- I bet the Nuelasta along with the Taxol pains was the reason for your pain. The bone pain I had from Nuelasta was all in my spine. It was sore in very specific spots which is what scared me. The bone scan I had should no metastatic lesions and a small area of uptake on l-5 indicating excess bone marrow- did an x-ray and other scan and no mets of any sort, simply overactive marrow production- Nuelasta. Scans were all clear, and the onc felt that I had a major reaction to Nuelasta. She'd seen it before, though not often. I think the A/C was beating on my body as well. The NP told me the highest she'd ever seen a WBC after Nuelasta was 56! That was in a lymphoma patient with twice the Nuelasta I had ever had.
The bone pain is now totally resolved. But boy, did it ever hurt and scare me. I had my first taxol and the only pain I have currently is muscular- sort of like I did 6 hours of yoga non stop and my muscles are shaky. It is a walk in the park compare to the last few weeks!
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Izzy325: Thanks. That is helpful.
misswim: My nurse at treatment this week said that that wbc is something you would typically see in a leukomia patient, but because I was on Neulasta and doing chemo, she knew that I did not fall into that category. That statement made me a tad uncomfortable. My cousin's husband died from leukemia while she was going through treatment for breast cancer.
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The thing is, my wbc would fall below or into normal, surge about 7-days later and then be back down to an acceptable range by my next chemo. There is a very specific pattern your blood work would show if luekemia was a concern. My onc said that Nuelasta is a very, very strong drug and it does its job but some people are also highly sensitive, as I was. I also had a full blown UTI when my wbc was the highest which explained part of that.
Try not to worry. I am certain the Nuelasta was doing its job. Can they lower the dose?
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Hi ladies...sorry I've been MIA for a while...I work on my good days and rest on my bad days. It's been a hard couple of days. I had my 2nd Taxol treatment on Wednesday, gave myself my Neulasta shot on Thursday and by Thursday night I was feeling the pain all over. And to top it all off, I chipped my molar tooth today while eating bread that had been dipped in my soup! How does THAT happen? I have to wait until Tuesday to call my dentist since they are closed on Mondays. I just feel like my body keeps breaking down on me.
I am hoping the bone pain gets better soon. On a positive note, my last Taxol (and final chemo) treatment is in 24 days, so I'm counting down the days now.
I am really behind on catching up with everyone, so I apologize for not responding to your posts the way I usually do. I'll try to do a better job of keeping up with you ladies!
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kk11: I've missed you. I was wondering how the Taxol was treating you. Glad to see you show up whenever you feel up to it.
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So I've skimmed through a few posts now and wanted to congratulate those of you who are finished with chemo! I can't wait to say the same!
For those of you with restless legs during Taxol, I've also experienced it and the nurse told me it's the Benadryl. If it's really bothersome, she said I could take Ativan, so you might want to ask about that if it's really bothering you.
About WBC, I hit 1.7 (for the neutrophils) before my 1st Taxol, but was up to 6.44 before my 2nd, so clearly my counts recovered well this time with the Neulasta shot. I have been told that Taxol doesn't affect the bone marrow like AC, so clearly that's true for me. If things continue on this way, I may be able to get out of taking my last Neulasta shot with my last treatment, but I don't want to get my hopes up just yet. My hemoglobin has stayed steady at 10.1 for several treatments now, so I'm happy it hasn't fallen into single digits yet. Rbc are still low (lowest was 3.06 and I was 3.1 this time).
Rabbit - Sorry for what you have had to go through with the clotting! I am glad it didn't entirely spoil your b-day, but it sounds like it was quite an ordeal.
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Thanks J-bug - I actually came on here a few days ago to post an update and then lost my post! I was so fed I up and not feeling good, so I gave up.
You are 2 treatments away from being done too right? I hate this bone pain. I think it lasted about 4 days last time (starting on day 2) before it started to taper off the 6-8th day. Do you feel like Taxol is better than AC overall? I was never able to do anything more than going for a walk on AC, but I have played Tennis 3 times since my first Taxol (one of them with bone pain - I thought maybe it would help - verdict is no, but it didn't hurt more than it does when sitting doing nothing). Anyways, I'm not at the energy level I want to be, but I play it by ear. I hope to get into the swimming pool next week. I've been a bit scared to because it's a public pool (owned by my apartment complex) and my counts were so low, but since they were much higher and in normal range this week, I feel a bit better about taking "the plunge" lol.
Oh, and I have to vent a little because it seems like everyone is making it hard for me to work part time. There is more paperwork and I can't believe how many people are involved and require notes from my doctor on a regular basis! I got paid by my work for my part time hours, but they told me I need to use some vacation to supplement disability in order to keep benefits. Well, they didn't pay me out any vacation, so I am stressing that my health insurance will be affected, even though I filled out all the proper paperwork. I've had trouble getting in touch with the person who is supposed to track my leave, so had to make multiple phone calls and still haven't gotten anywhere. The state has been horrible about getting me my disability benefits for the days I can't work...they claim they never received the latest paperwork from my doctor (which is BS), so I spent hours on the phone trying to get through to them on Wednesday (while I was on my way to chemo and again when I was in the chair). I finally get through and the woman ends up hanging up on me prematurely (I highly doubt she's ever experienced a major medical condition or she wouldn't have treated me so terribly). I haven't received anything from them for about a month, so now I'm not getting anywhere close to what I should be getting. I'm so frustrated! I know I should be thankful that I am able to get disability since some of you are still working full time, but sometimes I feel it would be better (less energy wasted) to either be on full time leave (which would eat up a good chunk of my vacation time) or working full time. It's this part time business that's causing all the problems! Ok..vent over. I knew you ladies would at least understand how frustrating it is when you're already feeling crappy from chemo.
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Hi bcisnofun, Susan, ANA, Snoopy, Dexxy - congratulations on finishing chemo! Yippee, happy dance and go celebrate! I have one more to go in a weeks time and will push for radiation to start in 2 weeks after that. I just want to get back to my normal lfe as soon as possible.
Kk11 and J-bug - happy to hear that taxol effects are not as bad as A/C. This soon shall pass too.
ellenquilt - enjoy your new car, sounds cool! my DH got himself a new car few months back and he is still treating it as his precious- spends hours washing and polishing it and checking for scratches ( screams if he finds them). He bans the gals from eating in the car and footwear must be clean before they get in. Hahahaha.
J-bug - the cold caps didn't work as well on me because of the humid weather here. I couldn't stand not washing my hair for more than 2 days and have been doing so. I read From the cold caps threads that most shampoo once a week or less. I have lost the top of my hair and only my fringe and sides are still intact but sparse. The weather is too hot for wigs here and I prefer baseball caps or scarfs and with the hair from my sides and fringe, I still look normal from far unless one scrutinizes me. I am born in Singapore and have lived in this cosmopolitan country since. English is our main language in schools and is commonly spoken here. Education is heavily stressed here and kids must go through minimum of 10 years of it and most will then proceed to college , polytechnics and universities. I have been very blessed in my life - attended university here, worked in good jobs that took me all over the world, married and have two gorgeous gals, a nice comfortable roof over our heads and food on the table. I see this Big C as a temporary setback and will bounce back to life soon again. I have fought the battle once 5 years back and now this is absolutely the last battle. -
I am so jealous that some of you are done with chemo, but congrats.
Missed logging on for a while as I spent two weeks trying to recover from fatigue. I am on week 3 since my last treatment and feeling the best since this whole fight started. I still have one more week off before I start Taxotere and I am very nervous. Onc office tells me it's easier than AC, but what I have read on the Taxotere board many ladies complain it's worse. I feel my SE's from AC could have been much worse and feel Tax is going to do that to me. Can't wait for chemo to be over.
Sending feel good vibes to you all
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k11, Good to hear from you again. It does often feel like our bodies are just crapping out on us during this process and that really sucks. I know I often push too hard because I'm so frustrated that I can't do what I want/need to do and have to give up more control. Not an easy task for a control freak. LOL I know when I'm getting the benedryl drip because my legs start tap dancing. Literally. I usually drop one off the side of the recliner and tap tap tap because the restless leg is so annoying. And I have that under normal circiumstances. That's when I also start taking bathroom breaks just so I can move around with the IV on battery instead of sitting and tap dancing in my seat. And I can also pee on demand these days from all the water. I feel like my dog when I walk her and say "do it." On command. Every time.
Frances my ex came with me as my male eye candy when I shopped for my car (and nothing gave me greater pleasure then when the sales manager walked right up to HIM and treated HIM like the customer. I was able to say, "Excuse me, but he will never be driving the car that I might be buying today." You should have seen the look on the sales manager's face. LOL Priceless. Plus he then had to deal with ME and I drive a tough bargain. I even offered him one of my Zantacs as we argued final prices. LOL ) Anyways, the Ex, who is a neat freak, said I should get those car liners "As Seen On TV". I think I might do it. The car is lovely, and I appreciate it after the past few years limping along with my aging van.
Also regarding bureaucracy -- it's the worst when the people at the other end are ignorant, stupid, uninformed or just plain disinterested in getting the job done. Lots of carelessness. I work for a big city bureaucracy but so far have one great contact who seems to get things done. I know if I had to start dealing with disability coverage though, it would be a nightmare. Keep at them -- frustrating as it is, so you get what you are entitled to. And I just love your attitude! You go girl!
Cathy C. Glad you feel well enough to post again. Good luck with the Taxol. Hoping you won't have bad SE from it.
Still in flood cleanup mode here and I'm having company for the holidays in a couple of weeks so my son's girlfriend and I are regrouping the storage chaos. She has cleared and cleaned enough downstairs that we can safely store some bins and the bikes back downstairs until we can deal with FEMA and start some construction. Then all will be chaos again. Oh well. This too shall pass. Today is crash day for me, so I'm going to limit what I attempt and try to rest for work tomorrow. I think it will be a low key week at the office, which is a lot easier than running around to different schools and looking for parking in NYC -- always a challenge.
I'm also watching and weeping at the Sept 11 ceremonies downtown. 9.11 was the fourth day of my first year teaching and we could see the towers from the hallway window outside my classroom. After a teacher friend watched my class and sent me out to see what had happened, I remember closing my classroom doors to try and shield my fourth graders from what was going on. I didn't know who had family or friends in the Towers and felt it was my job to keep them away from it as long as possible. It didn't work very well because teachers were screaming and crying as the towers fell. It was one of the most terrible days I can remember. I haven't been able to go back to the site in ten years. I think I will go now that the memorials are there. I can look up the names of the those I knew who are gone.
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ellenquilt you don't fail to crack me up. Would love to see the face of the salesman. I remembered 9/11 vividly too. My eldest was just 2.5 months old and I was out on a business dinner when the news broke. We were with my group MD who is an American. No one believed it and thought it was a nasty prank. When I got home, my DH and I just sat in front of the TV watching live CNN coverage the entire night and our hearts went out to all in America. Our cable is showing many documentaries on 9/11 these few days but I refused to watch any as they're all so sad.
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Just popping my head in for a minute to say hi, congrats to all the ones done with the big chair, woooohoooo!
I am feeling pretty good, just low energy. My mom and sister threw a bday party for me today, we had a cookout, it was fun, just tired, that was the 4th party for me in the last 2 weeks LOL.
I see the GS at 10am Wed and the onco 3pm Wed. to get the final opinions on what to do with the port because of the clot. Will let everyone know once I do
Good luck to all getting chemo tomorrow, good vibes and no SEs hopefully!
xoxoxoxo
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Hope everyone had a good weekend that was SE. Ellenquilt...I loved the car story...totally cracked me up!! I'm sorry about what you went through 10 years ago. I remember I was at work when it came across the radio and we turned all the computers to stream the video. My heart sunk becase I as so afraid my brother would get called back into service and he use to work at the Pentagon. 9/11 is always bittersweet to me anyway because that is the day I married my now ex in 87. My youngest sons birthday is tomorrow and it is just like today because of all the aftermath.
I had a pretty good weekend. OrthoPets the company Josh works for had the end of summer party yeserday. Glad I was feeling up to going but to me I couldn't taste the food. We met at a localchinese restraunt and then went to this awesome putt putt/go cart/bumper car place. We played putt putt and laughed so hard. Everyone loved the scarf I wore. It was josh's moms favorite before shepassed from cancer in 08. Josh and his dad insisted that I take and wear her scarves. I forgot my camera of course.
Hope everyone has a great week and for those in the chair tis week hugs and hoping for little SE's.
Tina -
Lots of pain hit today! I am living on Oxycodone. Hopefully I can be done with that and back to normal on Tuesday. Although I did make it to my husband's company picnic, Home Depot and did a little lawn mowing -riding, of course. I got my husband and daughter to finish planting the weeping willow I found for 30 bucks. It's amazing how much my daughter whined about it when I had already dug half the hole between Friday and Saturday. But it looks beautiful and I am very excited to have it in the ground!
Just took another dose of Oxy, so I am looking for my pillow. My teeth start chattering hard and the pain kicks in hard about every 5 hours. Good night everyone!
Age 40. Tumor is over 8 cm. Started neoadjuvant therapy on July 1st with 4 AC dd / then 4 Taxol, then will be bilateral mastectomy, then radiation, then reconstruction.
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J-bug....hope you get to feeling better soon. *hugs*
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Hugs to you J-bug. Pray all these unnecessary pain will go away.
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Ellenquilt - I am in California and I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday (many sleepness nights watching familes of the missing on tv and crying). We've been watching quite a bit of 9/11 tv lately and it has a huge impact on us and we weren't even physically there. Hugs to you and everyone else here who lives in New York or knew someone affected.
J-Bug - I'm feeling the pain too. It kicked into full gear by Friday night (the day after my Neulasta shot), though I was already feeling tender to the touch everywhere on Thursday night. I am hoping it will be better in the next few days too.
Rabbit - Wow! 4 parties! I hope you're enjoying them as much as possible.
AFM - I'm stuck waiting until Tuesday to see when my dentist can get me in to fix my badly chipped molar tooth. At least I'm not in any pain in my mouth, just everywhere else lol. I'm sticking to soft foods just in case, so hopefully they can get me in soon.Good luck with your appointment on Wednesday (in case I don't make it on again before then!)
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A Good friend of mine emailed this to me. Don't know if you guys have seen it but I find his advice so logical and easy to follow.
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=XaDt3AJQ98c
If can't access, go YouTube and keyin these search words :
Natural Defenses in Preventing and Treating Cancer -
I just found this board and want to say thank you already! I too started chemo in July. This weekend I felt I was hitting rock bottom, but finding this board and reading some of your posts has given me some encouragement.
I was diagnosed a week after I turned 40. Needless to say, all the jokes about getting old and falling apart were no longer funny. I have four kids--ages 14 to 7--whom I homeschool, although school is practically non-existent right now. Hopefully we'll get back at it once I feel like a real person again.
I've had 4 rounds of A/C and my first of 4 Taxol, radiation afterward. It's been miserable from the beginning, constantly one thing after another. The unpredictability of it all has been somewhat maddening. I had a scary infusion experience this last week. During my pre-meds (Benadryl, Zantac, and Decadron) I started to feel sick, tingly all over, and my heart was racing and pounding. I wasn't sure if I was going to pass out, throw up, or what. This happened a couple of times. I've had many issues with the Decadron previously so they nixed the protocol oral doses before the Taxol but still gave me the 20mg in the IV. Apparently that didn't sit well with my body and they plan to reduce it next time. Also the Benadryl made me feel nasty all day. I'm hoping to get that reduced next time too, but, of course, hopefully without a reaction to the Taxol.
I look forward to reading more of your posts, both old and new, and reminding myself that I'm not the only one going through all this.
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