Chemo May 2011

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  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited August 2011

    Twisted I remember those calls - and getting very upset with that reminder too. You are almost done!!! You can do it!

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited August 2011

    Ah, twisted. I have done that before! It's like a reminder call-YOU HAVE CANCER-come to your appointment. You are almost there! In my eyes you made it though 12 taxol, you can do this! Taxol was a bear to me 8 years ago, abraxane has been much more kind to me so far. AC is rough, the fatique was crazy for me, pretty much useless for a week!

    I had my first avastin today with my 3rd abraxane. My doc asked how much I was working and I said 2 days, and he said "only two days" and looked at me weird! I know he is a work a holic, but now I am thinking there goes my shot at ssdi! I still have at least 2 surgeries and at least 2 more months of chemo. I know a lot of you work through it, but part of my problem of working is mental and standing on my feet all day, plus my fingers hurt, nails are lifting and my wig makes my head sweat like you wouldn't believe. Bless my clients, but they like to ask me about how I am doing and I just don't like talking about it all day! OK. all I do is post about me me me me me me. I promise I will stop!

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011

    bak94, I like reading about you . keep posting about you its how we help each other through this mess we've found ourselves in. 

    after all this time I finally felt well enough to make it to a look goood feel good class. Embarassed 

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited August 2011

    Awww twistedsteel.  I understand that feeling.  I will be thinking about you on Monday!

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited August 2011

    bak:  I haven't worked during any of this (I don't have a job and had planned to take time off after my husband died before finding a new one) and really don't think that I could have.  It has been SO hard just getting through the treatments and staying remotely sane.  I would be a wreck if I was trying to work--especially full-time.  I remember when my oncologist said that a lot of people worked full time during Taxol and I felt like such a failure because I felt like there was NO way that I could do that. But it really depends on the person and the situation.  Have you applied for SSDI yet?  Good luck with that!

    I had a breakdown yesterday.  My FIL has been in town since my surgery and we ended up going through some of my husband's stuff and I totally lost it.  Then at night I just lost it about this whole cancer thing.  I found myself begging whomever is in charge to let me wake up and realize that this whole thing is just a terrible nightmare and that I'm really not a widow and I really don't  have breast cancer.  Of course, this is real.

    My drains from surgery are really starting to bother me.  One is pretty painful and red around it.  I'm not sure if it is just irritated skin or trying to get infected.  I am still getting a good amount of drainage so I'll have these darn things for awhile. I'm just tired of having cancer!

    I seriously don't know how I am going to get through reconstruction--physically the surgery has been okay--much better than chemo, but mentally this whole thing is just beating me down.

    Oh, and with my final pathology report I found out that I am actually Stage 3, not 2b.  Not that it matters I suppose, but ugh! 

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited August 2011

    Twisted Steel, I HATE those reminder calls too!  Your so close to the end.  I have my 5th of 6 treatments next Thursday and definitely feel like time has stalled on me. 

    Bak94 -  I have been working thru treatment, but have cut my time a little.  I work at a desk, I was once a hairdresser myself in my 20's and can assure you there would be NO WAY I could work full time as a hairdresser during chemo.  It's crazy just to think it.  Your job is much more involved AND don't forget you don't want to risk getting sick by being around so many people.  If your having problems with your nails you don't want to work with your hands either.  Don't beat yourself up because your not working as much as some others, every job is different and you do have a demanding job.

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited August 2011

    Working must suck during this.

    I have kids that I have to drive around, but I get a TON of help from my husband and his girlfriend. And I own a business and the people there have stepped up and really really really really taken the reins so I feel like I work only 2 hrs a week. I know it's more like 6 maybe but still, that is NOTHING. I appreciate my artists so much for just taking over but still letting me feel like the boss.

    TS 

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011
    Just talked to my Plastic Surgeon. I knew when MO confirmed the Rads that it was going to delay the whole PS  ... but 6 or 7 months! I'm in a bit of shock, sad actually. I guess my port is going to stay in that long to? thats when it was going to be removed. Frown
  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited August 2011

    I went in for AC #2 after 12 taxol today. i have been having neuropathy and sore fingers and toes and after #1AC i had a nail fungus start and I am going to lose that nail. Other nails are threatening to fall off too.

    I did not get to have the chemo today and was rescheduled for over a week and a half away. They did tests for neuropathy. I  can not stand on my toes and stay balanced nor walk the DUI test line heel to toe. I also have hand foot syndrome. So I am hoping the time off will get me in better shape. I hate the fingernail thing. UGH! 6 mo's to grow a new fingernail and a year to grow a new toenail. Boooo Hissss!

     Anyone else out there had hand foot syndrome?  How did you treat it? 

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011

    oh twisted steel... that is awful. I take back my whining over waiting for PS. I'm so sorry, I don't know much about hand foot syndrome. 

  • Robyn_S
    Robyn_S Member Posts: 197
    edited August 2011

    Hi Twistedsteel - check out Acetyl l carnitine supplements for neuropathy. It is in clinical trials in the US for prevention of taxane induced neuropathy and there is research strongly suggesting that it is effective in preventing and relieving chemo induced peripheral neuropathy (CIPN).

    I took Acetyl L Carnitine capsules during my taxatere tx and luckily did not have any neuropathy at all. (3 X 1000mg per day). It is available in health food stores and is a natural amino acid. I had no nail issues at all either.

    Hope this helps ((take care)) Robyn

  • solange49
    solange49 Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone, I don't post very often but so excited to know that I have just two more chemos to go. I began on may 30th. Four DD AC then four DD Taxol. The dose dense taxol has been a little tougher than I thought. I have run fever for a few days after each one. And the bone pain! Ugh. I'm sure most of that is from the neulasta shot. I also began physical therapy for a shoulder problem I'm having. It hasnt been a good year health wise for me. :) I've always been so healthy before all this. I'm just so ready to get this chemo behind me. I'm doing research now on what type of reconstruction I'd like to go with. Then rads after that. I'd like to hear from you guys to see how you're holding up,
    hugs,


    Diana
    Diagnosis: 5/19/2011, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-

  • MargieC
    MargieC Member Posts: 394
    edited August 2011

    Solange49 -- I get Swedish massages a few days after chemo and it helps with the bone pain - check with your Dr first before doing this, but it has help me a lot...

    Twistedsteel - I know the feeling.  last week I had a day that I just sat and cried which I hadn't done since I start chemo May 13.  I had my last treatment yesterday.  it's a huge relieve to be done, but it also very scary because while in chemo you know what to expect.  Once done you move back into the unknown.  I am now in a waiting pattern for my BMX Oct 4.

    Good luck to everyone this week... 

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited September 2011

    Solange, are you doing reconstruction before rads? I have to wait a year after I finish treatment for reconstruction, I haven't had surgery yet, still doing chemo. I will probably do diep.

    Margie-congrats on being done! Yes, it is scary being done, but exciting at the same time to start feeling better! I am nervous about bmx, mine will probably be late november or december.

    Twisted-I agree with Robyn, I couldn't believe the difference l carnitine made. I started taking it about halfway through ac and wish I would have taken it from the start. My doc also said 1000mg 3 times a day-I couldn't believe how much it helped!

    I had a busy weekend, and then my husband got a horrible cold/sore throat crap, and yep you guessed it, now I have it! No fever, so doc just said to make sure I call if I have a fever or start coughing up yucky stuff. So far so good, just tired with a runny nose and sore throat:(  First cold since diagnoses, missed work today.

  • solange49
    solange49 Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2011

    Margie- No I haven't tried a Swedish massage for the bone pain. Thanks I may do that. :) I am sooooo glad I only have two more chemos to go!

    Bak94- I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to have my reconstruction before rad. I have chemo on Thursday and my onc and I are supposed to talk about my surgery. She wanted to wait until I'm close to the end of chemo. I'm ready to find out my options and get on with it! I may have to wait as well though. I'm just anxious to find out so I'll be prepared. I've also been reading about Diep. So sorry about your cold. Hope you feel better soon. :)



    Diana

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011

    When I had my BMX in April I had the first part of my reconstruction done and my PS put the tissue expanders in. Now that RADS are going to be involved my plastics doc said that after Im done with radiation I'll have an appt. with him a couple of weeks and then a couple of months later to monitor the healing of my skin. He estimates a 6 to 7 month wait on the exchange to my permanent implants. The goal is to work with our skin at its best post rads condition. I'm not pleased about the wait but I understand and Im grateful that the TEs look ok and don't give me much grief anymore.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited August 2011

    Beaglesgirl, I wanted TE's but my doc said they wouldn't look good with my body type ( His way of saying in a nice way I am too overweight!)

    Solange-I know about just wanting to know and planning for the reconstruction. I was all ready to go to appointments until they told me I had to wait a year, I was truly upset about that and it still bothers me, but I think I have started to accept it somewhat.

    Hubby brought me a frappachino, tasted so good with my sore throat! Not very healthy though:) Oh well.

    My hair is crazy looking! Fine greyish white fuzzy pieces that are about a quarter inch long and then short dark stubble mixed in. Sometimes I think I should shave the fine fuzzies off, but can't bring myself to do it. Still fightning this cold, and I have chemo tomorrow. They said they will still do it as long as my counts are good and no fever.

    Hope all are well! Would love to hear from the chemo graduates! Cyborg, MamaV, Laureen! Well, not sure if Laureen is done yet?

    Hi Candice! How are you? Hope you are walking without your cane, that way you can use the cane to swat away anything bad that comes near you!

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited August 2011

    Blondelawyer-How did your Monday appointments go? Are you starting rads soon? Did you find out for sure if you have to do more chemo? It sounds like they got of gertrude out with surgery!

    Sometimes I am happy, as I feel pretty good on abraxane and sometimes I start to feel sorry for myself. I have been eating bad and have not been walking much, I need to get it together! I do think it is an important part of healing, plus it put me in such a better mental state.

    I had a fingernail break off really short, where it had lifted, so I cut all my nails as short as I could, looks like they are haning on at the base! Happy to say that it is not painful.

  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2011

    seems like alot has moved on  and already had surgery so glad your days are getting better . Makes me know we all got better days to come: )

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited August 2011

    My appointment on Monday went pretty well.  I was having an emotionally difficult day and am honestly really tired of trying to be positive about this whole experience.  One of my drains was really bothering me, so I stopped by the BS's office to make sure it wasn't infected.  He thinks that it is just irritated (and so do I). The bonus was I got most of my staples out--I have 8 left.  But, the nurse mentioned that I have a "little" dog-ear from the surgery.  It isn't little by any means, so I am upset about that.  I seriously look like someone took a hacksaw to me.  And my surgeon is supposed to be one of the best in town.  Ugh...I hate looking like this.  I was able to handle the hair, but this incision thing is really throwing me for a loop.

    I still have both drains in, but one is only putting out a little fluid, so I'll get that one removed on Friday.  I am hoping that the other one slows down too so I can get both out.

    I am having some trouble with range of motion on the Gertrude side and that is annoying me.  I am doing my exercises but everything feels so tight and it hurts.  

    Anyway...apparently my doctors presented my case to the tumor board, which is the center's multi-disciplinary board where a bunch of doctors get together and talk about patients.  Everyone was in agreement that radiation plus oral chemo was the appropriate next step.  There were differing opinions, however, as to what to do after rads. Some think that I should do more chemo because my cancer is so aggressive.   Others think that there is no evidence to support more chemo.  My onco suggests seeing how I respond to rads and the oral chemo and then go from there.

    I go for my rads planning appointment next week and should start rads on Sept. 12th.  I'll start the oral chemo (one week one, one week off) on Sept. 19th.

    I have to say that I am hating cancer right now. The onco-pysch is uping my anxiety medication a bit, so maybe that will help, I don't know.  I am also seeing the exercise doctor tomorrow.  He is just always so darn upbeat that I might feel like punching him :)  I am hoping that he can help with this stiffness and tightness though.  

    I was also told I'd have to wait for about a year for reconstruction and I find that frustrating, especially because I am will eventually need to find a job, etc. and then I don't know if I will be able to take off a bunch of time for reconstruction recovery.  I'm guessing the DIEP will be my best option (I'm fat and the docs say that the rads will make implants not an option), and so I may end up going out of state for the procedure. I really just want all of this over with so I can move on with my life.  

    Okay, enough whining from me! 

  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2011

    blondelawyer   Cancer takes so much sometimes we gota let it out. Lets just hope and pray your next step works for ya .

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited August 2011

    Blonde you whine all you want!!! Thats what we have each other for!!!!



    I'm 8 weeks PFC tomorrow. Almost done with rads and trying to get some normalcy in my life - ha! My eyebrows are back in full force, eyelashes are dark and full - just need a few more weeks to get back to their length. Hair is about 1/2 inch long all over - starting to fill in. This GI Jane look does not suit me so I expect to be wigging for many months to come.



    I read these boards every day and am following everyones progress with prayers and hope!

  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2011
    I am jealous But hey u been where i am and i will be where your at soon : ) Love hearing from u  !U brighten my day Laughing Is the radiation burning u ? I over heard someone say today they were getting bunt up. kinda scared meeeeeee.
  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited August 2011

    Justme - I have had 25 rads and I am barely pink!! I have been religious with the aloe and nothing else. I'm definitely one of the lucky ones (maybe my consolation for the horrible chemo) but nobody on the august rad board has burned. Just a few pink girls and some itchy. No worries dear friend :)

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited September 2011

    MamaV- what form of aloe... cut from the plant fillet, cold pressed in a bottle, cream... 

    Thanks

    TS 

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited September 2011

    Twistedsteel - it's called Fruit of the Earth Pure Aloe gel - my RO gave me the name of it and said ONLY use that - it's working beautifully :)

  • ---
    --- Member Posts: 197
    edited September 2011

    bak94,

    Hello ladies!  Nope I am not done yet with Taxol.  3 more weeklies, will be done by week of sept 19th.  I haven't been posting lately, fall semester started for me this month.  but have been reading messages on the board.

    i hope everybody is doing well!

    Laureen

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited September 2011

    Ah, good for you Laureen for going to school this fall! I am not going back until winter quarter. but I have 9 more weekly abraxane and surgeries still coming up.

    I don't feel good. This cold is kicking my butt. No fever, but my throat hurts! I can't sleep, because I cough. I kinda wish they would cancel chemo, I don't want to feel worse than I do now.

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited September 2011

    bak= thanks for asking but this last chemo kicked me in the butt (had 25th) I have been in bed for the past week, back to walker and wheelchair. Havent even done most of my physical thearpy exercies because I am so weak and tired. The pain dimished on Tuesday this week. Each cycle is gtting harder.

    OH to help with the neulasta shot pain try taking claritin day of chemo for 5 days. IT does help. or atleast it did me. My first round I didnt and the pain was unbarible. I was popping viciodin every 4 hours 2 at at time and it didnt touch it.  This cycle I toke the claritin and I only had to take an extra (not normal pain med) like 3 times and only 1/2 or 1 pill at a time and only after about 6 hours.

    Well i have to pee and go to bed to sleep.

    Candice

  • solange49
    solange49 Member Posts: 102
    edited September 2011

    Bak94 - thanks for replying. Hope you're feeling today. Summer colds suck especially when you're dealing with chemo, etc. I just finished having my chemo day and as you said...my Onc said she thought it was highly likely my BS would delay reconstruction for awoke. I'm really bummed out to hear this. Ive been having more down days than usual and it was just one more thing. I know it could be worse though. Thanks for letting me vent,



    Diana

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