The Fungal Theory

Luan-------please go to NIH's site NCCAM and see what "Evidence based research " there is on what you are recommending.  The problem with too many sites recommending things , makes the "Thing" sound like WOW -you need this, But put under scientific double blind studies---they show no added value. Echinacea and selenium are two. But I am not discounting at all that there is value in neutraceuticals. I believe as humans, we made it through these thousands of years by paying attention to what we ate. Nostradamus was a Doctor not just a Seerer----he cured the plague in some cities he was invited too, by using Rosehips(high vitamin c), getting rid of vermin, and sewage control. Charlamagne decreed that all his subjects eat flaxseed. I have a folk medicine book that describes a quote from a civil war doc that those soldiers that had moldy bread applied too their stumps developed less infections-------later found out to be penicillin. I believe in this past century, that orthodox medical establishment looked at what was older treatments and threw them away without considering there value as to what it meant to our survival. Conversely, those of us that believe the old ways that got us here, haven't got the "evidence" to support the recommendations for what we believe to be necessary. The Pharmaceutical companies don't do research on much of what you describe b/c there's no money in it. They can't Patent  Vitamin C/ kale/ etc.  NCCAM as I previously described, is charged with doing research, by the Federal Govt.  How often has the Government tried to take away our right to access these items over the last 30 years. Solid research is best under most all circumstances---it will allow the promulgation of the importance of these items.

One of the problems with all drugs is the "More is Better Theory".  Vitamin D taken to excess can cause kidney problems.  Beta carotene can cause liver problems in excess. Vitamin A to excess -liver problems..ETC. ETC. I personally was taking 4 gms of fishoil a day, until recently when my skin became excessive oily, backed off, and it's normal on two Gms per day. Up till now , it was using it just fine. somethings changed. So, I adjusted.

Luan I'm not discounting what you are saying, it just gives it more support than anecdotal reports  that too often are given by Natural  sites.

A book that you would love is "Fats That Heal, Fats that Kill" by Udo Irasmus.  It's all about essential fatty acids--the Omegas. Read the Forward first , very important. He tells you how to use his book. He's a PHD chemist. He has researched the subject for maybe 40+ years. If you go to the first chapter , you will put the book back, it's very technical LOL. I believe we are where we are today with the whole Omega interest b/c of his research. It is a must read book. Of course, I loaned mine-----DUH----Gone. All highlighted and paper clipped sections with yellow highlights, and  notes in the margins------Bummer.

You and I first contacted over the discussion on the probiotic thing that I posted as  a treatment for my thrush created by Keflex.-----------thrush under control, still taking about 3-4 teaspoonfuls a day.

 On the carrot , thing------i grew up with carrot juice . Dad was into it in the 60's. It's a wish I had it daily, but can't stand to eat carrots. I see them and UGH. Saw it today in the Acaic--pompom section at Walmart. Perfectly Orange------Anyone who has juiced --knows that within an hour of juicing carrots , it goes from orange to a funny orange brown. I didn't pick it up to see what they added to it to keep it orange.

JLW---------the sight is great " evidence based resaerch" I didn't do a counter search to see if articles were refuted. BUT it's nice to see EBR. When my mind was better I would have .

I met a woman this week who battles with canker sores. At one time she had 29 sores in her mouth. Yikes! She said it happened after she had her wisdom teeth removed (given antibiotics). She too said that she put pro-biotic powder on her tongue, which helped and was preventive to getting more sores. She also said her doctor said it had to do with immunity problem...and taking probiotics, probably yeast as well.

After taking 8 nystatin pills a day, my tongue is looking better, but still sore. I am done with the pills on Monday. I am so glad as I don't feel well on them. Just going to be more careful about what I eat.   

Impositive, I've gotten used to not eating bread...but every once in awhile, I love cornbread. If we treat ourselves to carbs ever so often it's ok? Stress is the the number one culpret to low immunity. I'm a workaholic.  It is hard for me to do nothing. Stress, antibiotics, and poor diet (not eating enough of the right foods) weakens the immune system.

Can you ask for your tumor to be tested for fungi?

Impositive----the reason it can be predicted where CA mets to is because of the three types of cells that organs arise from--The endoderm, mesoderm, and ectoderm. BC will mets to the colon,bone, brain, lung, liver. I insisted on a colonscopy after my BC, got it moved up by 6 months-------YUP there was two polyps at the cecum. Previous scopes negative. Previous scopes b/c of diverticulitis induced by Celebrex and colin rescection. . So we know there was know previous hx of polyps. F/u this past June---clean. I'm now on the 3 year plan versus 5 year plan. AND lots of peace of mind.

I completed the nystatin and my tongue is still sore on the right side. It seems as if I have swollen nodes on the back of my tongue. I've a hunch that I'm fighting an infection in the mouth. I' made a dentist appointment to have my teeth cleaned. I'm wondering if I have an infected molar. I just mentioned this to a friend and she suggested that I soak my mouth in coconut oil for about ten minutes a few times a day. She said that the oil will pull out the infection and if there is a cavity that too. Huh...I'm going to try it. She recommended coconut oil.

Ok...it's call OIL PULLING. Check out this site http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/article%20oil%20pulling.htm

I'm not sure if it works but there's no harm in trying it.

Coconut oil, in one form or another, was used in hospital IV solutions, it was added to infant formula, and used in anti-candida medications ,,, from http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/savethechildren.htm

I was just reading about how cocount oil is good for getting rid of candida in our guts.  It was on a website called www.superchargedfood.com

I think I will start using it for more things to get it into my system 

Impositive--as I have said before my Dad juiced in the 60's. The worst was alfalfa. Probably major good stuff in it, but I couldn't keep it down if you get what I mean.

Very interesting info on coconut oil.

Eve  If the oil doesn't work on the bumps, I have a folk recipe that is over 2 hundred years old. If it's written from that time, it makes me wonder how old it really is. It sure would be nice to have a bx or culture of those bumps. Ask your doc?

Impositive---The one requirement Dad laid on us during those years was we had to have a salad a day and a 12 oz glass of juice. He'd mix all kinds of things. The alfalfa came from a sunday drive in the country. He was farm raised. He stopped the car picked the alfalfa and then juiced it. The carrot juice was good by itself, but he'd add "things". Worst combo I thought was apple and carrots. It had a zing that was not palatable. Lordy and you better be near some facilities if he put gabbage or beets into it. As a teen at the time , it was the only thing we battled about LOL. In fact it was the only time I got grounded when he caught me pouring it down the drain LOL. I can say that we rarely had zits and our eyelashes were thick and dark Hair shiny and healthy. skin to die for. I even asked for it on nights I had to cheerb/c it gave me so much energy.

Impositive----it should be cultured /or bx'd Try a dematologist. I'll add a link to a page where I did allot of research on skin things b/c I developed some serrious skin issues with chemo and Arimidex. Please do not try these bleach baths without running off the articles , full reading and discussion with your doc. If it is just her hand she can make a 10% solution --1part bleach to 9parts water. This is the solution required in restaurants by the health department to clean tables. OSHA does not require servers to use gloves to get cloths out of the solution. 

May9th 2011----------This post was written Feb 28, 2011 01:05 pm, edited 24 minutes ago by sas-schatzi sas-schatzi wrote:

I have found the original article re Bleach baths.I can't do hyperlinks and my pop-up blocker wouldn't allow cut and paste, so each url is hand typed-sorry----Eventaually learned how to do hyperlinking

http://pediatrics.aapublications.org/cgi/content/full/123/5/e808. This is the original journal article. The original research was on community acquired staph with patients with chronic eczema. The importance of this article is it has generated  and been sited as reference for dozens of other articles. Many peered reviewed articles. There are also references to this article by sources that have NO scientific background that do not understand science. Some of these non scientific article reviews are dangerous because they don't know what they are talking about, and in some cases I question if they even read the original research or any peer reviewed articles.

I came across the original research when I contracted a very serious bacteria during a low immune state that was not controlled until I did the bleach baths. The bacteria I had was more serious than MRSA. After 5 weeks of standard treatment with no response, I did the bleach baths--cured in 24 hrs with another 24 hrs as a back up. Re-cultured and NED.

Everyone is aware that chemotherapy reduces immunity. What is less commonly known is that tamox and all of the Aromatase Inhibitors(Arimedex, Femara, Aromasin) reduce/lower immune status as does any of the steroids. Other drugs may do this also, but can't flip a name out right now.

What is , also, not commonly known is that sometimes we can be too aggressive in trying to "fix" a skin problem that we can make the situation worse. That is why the research is so important and seeking medical advice before trying to self treat. We can escalate a battle into a war with our good intentions. 

http://dermatologycentral.type.com/resource/2009/04/bleach-in-bath.html. The importance of this article is that it is supportive of the research done in the Pediatrics journal. Actually, I thought it gave a better summarizing of how to do the bath than the original article.

www.ncbi.nlm.gov/pubmed/190403473. Commonly known as PUBMED. All articles here go through serious peer review.  Also, to the right of each article ,are citations of other articles that debate the merits of the original article. Debate under these circumstances is good because it is done by qualified scientists.

Sometime ago I did a multiple response on a thread re:skin and wound care. I will add it here after I post this. Retyping this would be a real pattuty pain. L&H&P sheila

Mar 22- adding url to WebMd site --imortance of this article is the writters comment on the second page re: community aquired MRSA

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and -treatments/eczema/news/200090427/bleach bath 

----------don't know why this last article would not hyperlink, but it's worth a read.

EVE we thought this was grandmas recipe for a sore throat. I then found it in the folk med book and it dates it back to the early 1800's. First of all it tastes awful. It's use was for the beginnings of a sore throat. If used early it can stop a sore throat. If used when the sore throat was well established, I have not found it to be effective.  I can't prove it, but I think what happens is it slows the process of bacteria duplication and allows the bodies immune system to jump in and fight. I keep a bottle in the frig for anytime of need.

Choose a glass bottle with a non corroding lid. Mine has a cork. Fill bottle with apple cider vinegar plus a wee bit more as vinegar will evaporate in the boiling process. Pour vinegar into a small saucepan. Cover bottom of saucepan with salt. Then cover bottom of saucepan with red pepper seeds(capasin is released from the redpepper seeds). Boil on stove for 5 minutes or use less heat and cook longer. It will smell awful. Let cool to room temperature. Pour through sieve into bottle---use a funnel.  Put in frig for future need.

How to use---at the first sign of a sore throat , shake bottle as capasin will settle to the bottom, gargle with solution. Do this every 1/2 hour for a couple of hours. With each gargle rinse for-mouth with water as it is acidic and tastes awful. What you will feel is the areas that are being attacked by whatever bug is trying to establish itself is a burning. After a few minutes that area will feel better. A warm yet good feeling.  Repeat as described above. Do not use if allergic to any of the contents.

Impositive in your case though, it sounds like something different is going on. I would still like to hear of a culture or bx. But I have been where you are------desparte for relief and no doc coming up with the right answer.

I went to the dentist today. After x-rays and probing... no infections. The dentist assistent shared when she went through a divorce, her mouth was inflamed for a year. I am perplexed. Maybe it's a domino effect...first stress causing low immunity, and the low immunity gave way to fungal overgrowth and acidic environment which makes us vulnerable to cancer. I know my body right now is acidic.

I have been under a lot of stress and I"m the type of person who feels responsible for everyone around me, plus I run a school. It's a personality problem. Please do not suggest yoga or meditation ... not my thing. 

BTW...It seems to me that most people in Oregon are very holistic, health concious. Most are well aware of fungal/cancer connection. Those who aren't all say it makes sense. Even my dentist feels there is a connection. He also feels a healthy mouth equals good health.