Chemo May 2011

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  • DebRox
    DebRox Member Posts: 437
    edited August 2011

    MamaV:  You are fortunate your hair is coming in blonde.  I met a 28 yo woman at a Support Group meeting last month whose hair came in completely gray.  She was 4 weeks PFC when I first met her.  I could not believe the growth she had at 4 weeks - a good 1/2 inch all around, but I guess she is only 28.  I will see her again next week which will be 8 weeks PFC so I am curious to see how her hair is progressing. 

    I had 10 token gray hairs before chemo.  I did do cold caps, but lost a LOT of hair.  I require a coverup to go out.  I am curious to see what color my hair will grow back.  I can see some new growth littered in the scalp and it looks white.  I am looking forward to being at least 8 weeks PFC and hopefully I see sprouts everywhere. 

    My brows look very pathetic right now, I normally have full lush brows.  I have lost about 2/3rd of them.  Lashes barely hanging on. I somewhat expect them to drop soon as per other women on TC.  All I can say is Christmas time is looking very good right now, almost 6 months of recovery time needed.

    Blondelawyer:  I am so glad you have a plan in place.  We will all be cheering you on from the sidelines on Aug 15th.  Lets all say goodbye to Gertrude!

    Candice:  You've been MIA, hope everything is ok. Nice to see you back.

    Beaglesgirl and Laureen:  I can so relate.  I look at my face, sans brows and feel like I look so very different.  I just hope they grow back quickly. I have heard they do.  My brows started falling after tx 3 which was 5 weeks ago, I hope to see some stubble soon!  I am so sick of using powder to fill in the gaps.  I just hope my brows come back in dark as they were. 

    Another day PFC and on the road to recovery.  I sure freaked myself out yesterday.  I was examing my breast, had a lumpectomy BTW.  The PS took out a lot of tissue - a golf ball size.  She had to reorg what was left for a pretty good cosmetic outcome.  I must say she did a good job and I have Ds to begin with.  Anyways as I was feeling my boob - I had been afraid to since my surgery.  I felt a lump, right in between my lymph node and breast scar - I know I have lumps/scar tissue at the surgery sites, but not inbetween them.  I thought that it shouldnt be there.  I burst into tears and called my hb, sobbing that the cancer is back.  He told me not to panic, I have a lot of scar tissue in my breast.  He has been massaging it to relieve the cording I have been experiencing.  He believes that the lump is a result of breast tissue reorg and scar tissue developing as he has been breaking down the scar with deep massage.  Needless to say I am going in to my doctor next week and discussing my new lumpy breasts.  I am almost thinking of having an mx, I have so many lumps and bumps in there now, I don't think I can handle self exams without freaking out. I need a baseline mammo or something. 

    Hope everyone has a nice day.

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited August 2011

    Beagles girl - the style and colors you're wearing in your avatar look wonderful on you, almost exotic, draws away from that oddness of no lashes and brows. As mine float away, I'll keep that in mind.



    Laureen and all - isn't amazing how we're defined in public by such small bits as lashes and brows and hair? So many people don't recognize me now, it's usually a relief - in this small town, most people in the store will be a student I've had or a parent, and I'm glad to get away without a conversation. It's when I expect recognition from friends, and they don't, that I feel the oddest.

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited August 2011

    I feel like a naked mole rat when I don't have fake eyelashes or penciled eyebrows. Frustrating!

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited August 2011

    DebRox, when I had my lumpectomy 8 years ago I went through that, finding lumps. I was constantly worried that it was cancer, but it was just scar tissue. It would hurt and feel lumpy, the massaging was hard for me to do, but it did take the tightness away. The self exams would freak me out, but I had finally gotten familiar with how it felt and did not worry so much as time went by, but sometimes thought I would feel something new. So far no problems in that breast.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited August 2011

    MamaV, your hair growth sounds pretty good for 4 weeks! I am 1 day short of 3 weeks and my hair maybe looks a bit thicker. I have sporadic hairs that are about half an inch but very sparse. I start chemo again a week from friday, so there goes any gain I have made in the hair department. Oh well. Some do say they have growth on weekly abraxane but I am trying not to get my hopes up.

  • DebRox
    DebRox Member Posts: 437
    edited August 2011

    Bak94:  Thank you for relaying that to me.  I am a little freaked out to tell the truth.  I havent really touched my breast until yesterday and it is soooooo lumpy and bumpy.  My hb said there is a lot of scar tissue in there all over the place.  Now I really want an US or something to verify it all.  Or considering an mx as it is causing me anxiety. 

    Do you have your surgery date? 

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited August 2011

    Thank you for letting us know about the scar tissue that is what I thought it was but it is nice to hear that others experience that too.

    I had chair 4 of 6 today and I am so tired. I think I will go take a nap.

    Candice

  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2011

    Back from the hospital my wbc was at .8 and a low fever so i stayed a night and a day and they decided i would be better at home less the germs . They did give me three antibiotics and lots of fluids while i was there. Today i feel sooooooooooo much better!!  Couldnt wait to get back here and see how everyone eles is doin.

  • Robyn_S
    Robyn_S Member Posts: 197
    edited August 2011

    Happy Friday everyone! It is good to see everyone hanging in there and keeping out of hospital for the most part! It is good to look ahead at growing hair and eyelashes - i have a fuzz of salt and pepper growing more on top than on the sides so envisioning a bit of a mullet style in time if I dont buzz it even! Eyebrows are regrowing.. sparse - they thinned but never completely dropped out and kept most of the eyelashes.

    Have one more taxotere to go so feel like I have a headstart hairwise back to normal! I just wish the fatigue would lift a little- very debilitating at the moment - I am totally useless if I dont sleep 12 hours at night.  I have my rad-fitting appointment next week- I am so looking forward to leaving chemo behind - never want to this again!

    Blondelawyer- cancelling your Hawaii trip sucks but know how you feel! I had to give up a paid conference trip to Japan which was last week- I had been looking forward to it for 2 years and had some good work accepted to present- others did that for me. Now must wait another 2 years for the next meeting :( BC really is the gift that keeps on giving!

  • Katarina
    Katarina Member Posts: 386
    edited August 2011

    I've lost all hair on my body except a few a my eyelashes and half my brows. It's nice not having to shave anything BUT I do look like an alien and scare myself some mornings. 

    My friend dared me to go bald into Home Depot the other day. All I had to do was go au-naturalle in the passenger seat and I had guys drop their mouths and stare like they had seen an alien.

    Want to have fun and a good laugh -- go bald in public!!! Bring your friends so they can enjoy it too!!

    Hugs,

    Kat 

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited August 2011

    DebRox - I understand your panic and I think a lot of us can relate to your feelings.  I worry about every little bump - even though I've had a BMX - I keep worrying about the skin that was left (I had skin-sparing MX).  I also worry that my lump before it was removed spread to my chest wall and just hasn't been detected yet.  But I do try to move forward and be as positive as possible - not meaning to say I ignore the lumps and bumps. 

    Have you not had a baseline mammo?

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited August 2011
    Justme1 - I'm happy you're home from the hospital and hope your wbc goes up soon.  Funny about the fluids - I too felt much better after several days of fluids - the nurses kept reminding me how important it is to drink a lot of water - something I was not doing but NOW I AM!  I feel much better when I drink my water 2-3 litres a day and I notice my skin isn't as dry.  Postiive results.
  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited August 2011

    I hope to make you all laugh a bit.  I tried not to be offended at this comment but it was rather rude:  I was walking down the hospital corridor and at the end was a woman pushing a man in a wheelchair.  I heard her say to him as they came nearer "skinhead" - then when she got next to me she dropped her eyes and said "oh".  Why do people judge others based on their appearance?  Skinhead here is a very derogatory term and equates one to a neo-nazi.   If I saw a bald woman (perhaps I look more like a man these days Laughing  )  I would think she either had alopecia or was undergoing chemotherapy - some women even like the look thinking it "sexy".

    Ah well . . . now I can laugh at it but I'm still annoyed by judgemental people.

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited August 2011

    I had a man call me "sir" when I was out without anything on my head.  I was in my car, so he must have missed the DDs stick out there!  It is amazing the comments that people get.  I feel like in Seattle it isn't as big of a deal so I don't feel like I am constantly being looked at.  And most of the time I just don't care anymore!  I guess that is what happens when life keeps kicking you!

  • Katarina
    Katarina Member Posts: 386
    edited August 2011

    Wow, someone said "skinhead". Geez, really judgmental. I guess all sorts of things come to mind. My scalp is so white against my face that I just look like someone doing a skit on Saturday Night Live. 

    Being called Sir would be funny.

    I'm in the SF Bay Ares and we're still a bit conservative here. I haven't seen any women bald here yet but maybe it will become a trend -- Sinead O'connor made it popular once. It's so conservative here that women rarely wear scarves or hats, they opt for wigs. That's a drag, itchy and too hot for me. I've worn my wig once and hope to have an inch of hair by Nov.so I can donate it.

    Anyone go out in public bald without hesitation?? 

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited August 2011

    Yes, I go bald in public without hesitation because I don't love the wig - have only worn it a couple of times.

    I played a concert (I'm an oboist in local orchestras) bald.  Had a big solo in one of the pieces (Bizet's Symphony in C) and got a solo bow to lots of applause.  During rehearsal I stuck my cat ears on top of my head to make people comfortable and most of them thought it was funny - I wanted to show people that I was comfortable with it.

    I am in menopause since starting chemo (a much needed break from estrogen) and have been having night sweats and hot flashes so going out bald is preferred so the sweat can evaporate quicker!

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited August 2011

    Katarina, where in the bay do you liive, that there's a bobcat in your avatar? I know they're in all the surrounding hills in the bay area. I've 2 kids in Emeryville; I live a couple hundred miles up the 101, off the grid in the hills, and bobcat are one of many beauties we see.



    The comment of skinhead would get a comment back from me, I'm afraid, as it's really not something I want to be called. My own timidity keeps me from going out without my cap - our town is so small (5000), most people I see are either my students or their parents ( who were once my students :) , and I often just want to avoid the looks and conversation. It's not been a secret - I told everyone, to avoid the rumor mill. Once my hair stops looking like a baby owl, I'm out.

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited August 2011

    Katarina, where in the bay do you liive, that there's a bobcat in your avatar? I know they're in all the surrounding hills in the bay area. I've 2 kids in Emeryville; I live a couple hundred miles up the 101, off the grid in the hills, and bobcat are one of many beauties we see.



    The comment of skinhead would get a comment back from me, I'm afraid, as it's really not something I want to be called. My own timidity keeps me from going out without my cap - our town is so small (5000), most people I see are either my students or their parents ( who were once my students :) , and I often just want to avoid the looks and conversation. It's not been a secret - I told everyone, to avoid the rumor mill. Once my hair stops looking like a baby owl, I'm out.

  • Plils
    Plils Member Posts: 146
    edited August 2011

    Hello beautiful ladies,

    Lifelover, I am right there with you with the chemo brain stuff, I forget all the time and feel the same way you do.  I went to return some bottles the other day and the machine keep breaking down on me so I loaded all my bottles back in the car and just sat there an cryed.  

    As far as the pin # on my debt card I was away last weekend and tried to get money out of the machine forgot the number and locked myself out also had to call the bank trying to hold back the tears trying to work it out.  This sucks, but at least I have something to blame it on.  Ha ha...

    This journey has way to many up's and down's for me I am ready for the ride to be over.  I want my life back!!!!!!!!

    Lots of hugs to all 

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited August 2011

    Sorry I have been MIA, this has been a rough chemo cycle.

    I wear scarfs, but then I take them off when inside, and often forget I have. I wear them outside so I dont burn, that is the only reason I wear the scarfs regularrly. I dont do the wigs they are just too hot. I am still growing hair even tho I am still doing chemo. I just did 4 of 6 last Thursday. I still have eye brows, eye lashes, mustashas hair, hair on top of my head in spots, leg hair, arm hair, some arm pit hair, I even have some pubic hair but not in the public hair area but just above bikini line. It is really weard.

    I am so tired, I was playing with my daughter and basically fell asleep on her. I feel bad about it but she says it is ok (she is 6).

    My daughter is just having to grow up too quick with all of this. I find it very sad.

    Well I am going to go get the other things I need done, done before I fall asleep again.

    Take care everyone.

    Candice

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited August 2011

    Hi everyone.



    Justme1 and blondelawyer, sorry you were in the hospital. Yuck. Glad your both better now.



    I have been taking a nice break, as I felt pretty good this week. AC # 2 for me on Tuesday. NOT looking forward to it at all. 1 down, 3 to go. Leaving for vacation right after. Hopefully, this will take my mind off of the crappiness of this process.



    Sorry to everyone whose experiencing chemo brain issues. Dont be so hard on yourselves. We are overwhelmed. When overwhelmed, something's gotta give!! So, I notice my chemo brain was worse on Taxol than it is on AC. Anyone else notice differences on different meds?

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited August 2011

    38years old, sorry you are having a bad week. I have a 6 year old, too. She is very cognizant of what's happening but, we try to reassure her that things will get better. Plus, kids are so resilient. Hang in there.

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited August 2011

    I am not liking the effects of this Taxotere at all.  I had my first dose on Friday (I'll have it every 3 weeks for 3 courses).  My mouth is swollen and sore and my knees and back ache.  Sick to my stomach. 

    I know everyone has had different side effects with the Taxanes so I'm trying to be positive - it can't last forever, can it?  I read that some women have the side effects a year or more after treatment ends (body aches/pains).

    Anyone else having night sweats/hot flashes from no periods since chemo started?  I sleep with my head on a towel on my pillow otherwise I soak my pillow.  The rest of me gets wet but mostly my head and chest.  Weird.

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited August 2011

    Lifelover - that's called chemopause. Sucks doesn't it?

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited August 2011

    lifelover- I have the hot flashes (last for 4 hours or so) and the period. Have them periodially threw out the day too. Putting cold water on your head helps some. Aslo check with your dr, about meds for the hot flashes. I know more pills, but it does help some.

    Take care everyone.

    Candice

  • Katarina
    Katarina Member Posts: 386
    edited August 2011

    Chemopause is definitely a side effect. I have the hot flashes during the daytime. I don't have periods anymore. I'll pull off my hat or scarf when a flash hits. It's so annoying.

    There are some meds the Oncs can prescribe for this I understand.

    I'm back in the chair again on Wed. I'm hearing some serious suffering here from you ladies so my hugs and voice of encouragement that it is all temporary. Just take it one day at a time.

    Hives are really annoying but when asked "what's the worst" I have to say body aches, fatigue and memory problems. Those are tier 1 side effects. All else is tier II - meaning I can work around them more easily.

    Hugs,

    Kat 

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited August 2011

    I just wanted to share with everyone that I discovered cream of wheat last month and it has really helped me through the food aversion. I am not struggling as much as when I was I was on AC but the breakfast is still tough because I take my meds and that early I can't look at food yet. It has a very mild taste and odor. Ummmm and it is totally neutral if it comes up :( for those of you that are still fighting nausea.



  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2011

    sounds like we are all hanging in there and before long we will get through this. I went today  to see my surgen he said 6 taxols and then i will get a mamgram and ultra sound and cat scan to see where we are at exactly but he did check me and was so amazed at how the lump went down.Chemo is working : ) He said i could have a few options now with my surgery . I can have the lump out or the whole thing removed. Not sure just yet but i am leanin toward the whole thing i dont want to do this again or to worry about it.Those of u who had surgey was it hard on you to recover ?He did say i was past the hardest part meaning the a/c is the hardest part.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2011

     The treatment I started in May, Halaven, was a failure.  Scans showed that the liver tumors have increased in size and that there are more of them and my tumor markers are now 3,306.  It was freaking me out for awhile when they kept going up.....now I just think Wow, how high can they go? Amazingly enough I do not feel bad.  I did not lose all my hair...it is VERY thin on top and the temple area, but I still have a lot on the sides and back. Next Wed, I am getting it all cut super short so when I start gowing hair again there won't be such a difference in length...., not shaved since my hairdresser does not recommend that.  My last treatment of halaven was almost a month ago so I figure the SEs with it are pretty much over.....there were not many actually, just the hair, constipation and really weird muscle spasms......so imagine my surprise when I looked in the mirror yesterday and my eyebrows are just about gone. 

    I started Xeloda last Thurs. and found out last week that the blood test they did on me showed my tumor status has changed....I was always HER2-, but now I am +.  In my case this is not a bad thing because it opens up some more treatment options and I am going to be starting herceptin on Wed. 

    I hope by now that most of you are finishing or already finished your treatments and will no longer have to deal with this crap and can move on. 

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited August 2011

    Marybe, thanks for letting us know how you are doing. That is just so strange to me that the cancer can change, I hope the new treatments work well on it! Glad to hear that you are still feeling good. i finished ac over 3 weeks ago and now my brows and eyelashes are falling out, but my scalp hair seemed to get a bit thicker for a few days and now seems thinner again!

    I start weekly abraxane on friday, they are not giving me any meds to take the day before, I thought I would be taking something beforehand. They said they give me all the pre meds on the same day, anybody else have it done this way? Still scared of abraxane because I had an allergic reaction to taxol years ago, but still finished all the rounds.

    38-I can imagine you are tired! I hope that gets better for you. It is so frustrating being tired.

    Patriotic-Have a great vacation!

    Hope everyone is having a better start to the new week!

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