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  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited July 2011

    Lena, I would like to be a fly on the wall listening to and watching the hospital personnel as you ream them out. Go ahead and use as many 4 letter words as you want. I'm glad you know how to advocate for yourself! Love your attitude - you go, girl!

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited July 2011

    Lena...

    Now you know why they call medicine a "practice" we are all freaking guinea pigs. Sorry you are having to endure so much crap. I hope you feel better soon and if you don't feel better at least get some good drugs!

    Amy...glad you enjoyed the Rockies but they are only part way to the NW. If you or any of you ever want to visit the NW, you have a place to stay. Portland is an hour from the coast, an hour to the mountain (Mt. Hood) and three hours from Seattle. I lived in Spokane for a couple of years after I graduated from College (Central Washington). The climate is much drier in the eastern part of both Oregon and WA, we have more of a marine influence. ie...this year especially lots of RAIN. I know you all have been talking about heat all summer long. Well...our summer began today. We actually hit 80 degrees. AFT. Its been cold, gray and rainy. I am so ready for some summer. Although, I guess compared to you all...I have nothing to complain about.

    Judy...oh Judy...you need to check in.

    Titan...how's the wedding planning going?

    Helen...is your retirement official yet? I've lost track...sorry.

    I'm half way through my assistant's sabbatical. I'm surviving. My boss told me yesterday he is having a prostate biopsy tomorrow. He has a family history so he is very nervous. I can't blame him on that front. It brought back all the memories of going in for the biopsy, communication of the bad news, etc.

    I'm heading to Seattle for the weekend (family reunion), so I won't be checking in. Lena sending you healing thoughts.

    Hugs to all.

    Betsy  

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited July 2011

    I don't have the energy to ream anybody out, Helen, and Betsy, OK, but practice apparently does not make perfect.

    Got home late yesterday afternoon, am OK to be here but feel awful. Rads at 10/33. Time to go disappear again so don't worry. 

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited July 2011

    if you need help to ream anyone out, Lena, I can put it in a message for you and then just show it to the doctors/nurses. I'm interpreting your going home as a positive sign even though you are still not well. Is someone checking in on you regularly?

    Betsy, enjoy your weekend in Seattle. My retirement is official on August 31 but I'm moving into a retirement pace already.

    Titan, haven't heard from you for a while - you must be busy with wedding stuff

    Amy, what's doing with you?    .....and where is Judy?

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2011

    Well I've been home for a week, and been struggling with this rash (undetermined) until yesterday when I finally could see that it was starting to fade a little. And today is even better. I can't BELIEVE that this damn thing consumed an entire month of my life, since I went on that hike and got the poison ivy on the 4th of July.  What an absolutely enormous PITA this has been.  Itching is a kind of pain that I have never experienced before. It can really drive you crazy if you let it.

    Other than that, things are good. Slowly getting back into the swing of things with home/work/etc.  

    Last night my husband and I planned out some things we want to do/schedule for the next year (2012). We tentatively planned 2 trips and some other things.  I was fine until that little voice said "What if something happens? What if it comes back?"   I got a little scared to plan that far ahead, but then I realized that I have to keep living, moving forward, and I can't sit and wait around for something to happen, which hopefully never will. What a lot of time I would waste if I was afraid to do anything.  

    So it feels good to have happy things to anticipate. But there's always that little bit of fear......

    Glad not to be itching (quite so much) anymore - 

    Amy

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2011

    If anyone wants to see photos of my trip, they are here:

    Glacier Photos

    Montana and Idaho photos

    You do not have to be a facebook member to view these.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2011

    I tried looking at the photos but message says that content is unavailable. Glad your rash is getting better

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Hiya all, squeeeky squeek....

    OMG Amy on that horrible poison ivy and rash -- that probably took as much fun out of your vacation as all this illness and radiation has taken out of my summer.  :-( Glad you're starting to heal up, though. Oh, BTW, I got the same result Helen got when clicking on your links to the pictures of your trip -- nada.

    Rads at 12/33 now and SEs are starting. The coughing began over the weekend and on Sunday night when my Pack Rat was here, all of those multiple coughing fits that woke me up woke HIM up too. Got both Dayquil and Nyquil now, so I think I can start to control it. Skin is beginning to get pink today too in spite of my slatherings of Jeans cream immediately after every treatment and then again a few hours after I get home.  I tire very easily and have next to no ambition, but I'm still not sure if I can blame the fatigue on the rads yet though, seeing how I'm recovering from what almost amounted to near fatal kidney failure too (and was also just as tired and unmotivated from the time the "mystery ailment"/blocked ureter problem started almost a month ago)... The only real burst of energy I really had was Sunday when my Pack Rat was here (yeah, we're back to you-know-what already) so maybe I just need another good jolt from him and tomorrow is Hump Day so gotta invite him over. ;-)

    Oh yeah and Shuttlecraft T'Kiri (my car) is now "fixed" -- my Pack Rat did a great job with the new fender. He found the same color -- amazing -- it's an odd sort of metallic teal-ish color, not something simple and easy to find/do...so he painted the fender and installed that and the new headlight assembly so now you have to get real close and look carefully in one certain area to even be able to tell anymore that I had the accident -- and it only cost me $300, not the $2,000 I was estimated it would have cost in NJ (he did the work but I paid for the stuff). So now I can expect Shuttlecraft T'Kiri to pass an inspection so I can get her all New Hampshirized....but for this whole month my medical schedule has not only ruined my summer but makes it almost impossible to find the time to do it all (need to do the license and registration stuff as well as inspection -- my NJ license and plates don't actually expire till June 2012 so even though I "should have" changed over by 60 days living here, I'm not a cop magnet driving around with expired stuff so I'm getting away with it)....

    OHHHHHHHH WAIT!!!!!! The rads techs "owe me a favor" because on very short notice I agreed to reschedule two of my treatments to make things easier for THEM (instead of my usual 11:45s I had today's rads at 2 PM and Thursday's will be at 3 PM), so I'll pick a day then tell them I want to come in at 9 AM so I can have the rest of the day to take care of my car business. Except now when I open my iCal and see my medical schedule it practically drives me to an anxiety attack. :-P

    ...so who knows...between almost no energy/motivation and an aversion to looking at my schedule or planning anything, now I dunno when I'll do it.  LOL 

    Feel well everyone. 

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2011

    So happy to hear from you, Lena. You have had a tough go of it but your spirit is shining through. You are getting to the half way mark with the rads. I know it's tedious to go every day. Keep slathering the cream on. I found that the week after I was finished skin continued to redden but after a week, improvement was fast. Lucky me, I had two rounds of rads - each dx. First time the RO was the bitch from hell. This time when they tried to send me back to her I refused - said if they wouldn't give me a different doctor then I wouldn't go for treatment. It worked. Now I have a wonderful RO. Stay strong, Lena.

  • BetsyBuzz
    BetsyBuzz Member Posts: 592
    edited August 2011

    Lena,

    Love the name of your car...Smile

    You might try using Aquaphor...it feels like you've been slimmed but it worked well for me. I'm allergic to aloe so all the other creams recommended I couldn't use. I didn't start charring until my boost (last seven treatments) that's when my skin turned black but hey...on the bright side. The rads burnt my scars off. You can hardly tell I had surgery. Even doctors point to the wrong scar when they examine me.

    Sorry you are feeling weak but it's not surprising. Rads will take you down a notch. Get those hump days in now... as rads progresses you won't want to be touched or hugged.

    Helen....August 31st that means you are in count down month! How exciting.

    My boss told me today he has prostate cancer. So now of the 5 people I work with 3 of us have or has had cancer. Colon, breast and prostate....I think something is in the water or the air. It's just not right. 

    Amy...glad you are past the itching stage.

    We had a great family reunion. Also had a block party on the street I grew up on. I saw people I had not seen in 25 years. It was a blast.

    Suttlecraft T'Kiri makes me want to sign off tonight with ...live long and prosper! Hugs...

    Betsy

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2011

    Ok ladies - with my apologies, can we try this again?

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150245428527791.320596.544767790&l=cc6cbaab9b&type=1 

    and

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150245442312791.320609.544767790&l=42afd93a65&type=1 

    Can someone let me know if these work? (If not, I give up.)

    Thanks and sorry for the extra work. I'll figure this stuff out ONE DAY!

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Amy, looks like I don't get to see any pictures you post unless you someday decide to post them somewhere away from Facebook (seeing how I will never be joining Facebook myself!). Is something wrong with Photobucket?

     

    Am now in the rads waiting room for 13/33. Feel like I wanna die because I walked all the way here from the far parking lot carrying my iBook, which after awhile feels like it weighs a ton.

     

    Betsy -- OK I'm putting Aquaphor on the list of things I plan to ask the RO about when I see her on Friday. Thanks for the suggestion. LOL and yeah, my cars have been shuttlecrafts since #2. #1 (1976 Chevy Nova) was simply the Brown Beauty (because my then BF's car was the Black Beauty mostly LOL), but after that: #2; 1983 Chevy Celebrity, was the Death Shuttle because it had a penchant for leaving me stranded on the Garden State Parkway in really bad weather (and in other places too)...#3, my favorite 1990 Mazda 323SE which I had for 13 years was Shuttlecraft Eridani (who WAS completely reliable until  the last two years), also died on the Garden State Parkway -- just before I would have crossed the border into NY, was en route to see my Pack Rat....#4 was Shuttlecraft Nevasa, a 1989 Volkswagen Jetta my Pack Rat found for me the week after Eridani died...and we got her on the road and able to JUSSST pass inspection for $300 and my promise to let his cousin have it back at the end so he could have the front struts or something like that...well Nevasa was about as reliable as the Death Shuttle (except at least when SHE stranded me somewhere, it was LOCAL and not on a highway of any kind). However problematic she was though, she still lasted almost 2x longer than expected (Pack Rat gave her a year), and just long enough to accomplish her purpose: to last long enough for me to get a job and have some time to establish a good reputation there so I could get a better car - I was between jobs when Eridani died. So RIP Shuttlecraft Nevasa, who I had from October 2004-June 2006 (my Pack Rat was able to take her back to NH so his cousin got the struts back and they both took out what other few good parts were left). So, Shuttlecraft T'Kiri is #5. And yes, she's got a Vulcan name. :-) And given the shape I'M in, it looks like SHE is going to be the one who lives long and prospers!

     

    OK...gotta go for now. 

     

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited August 2011

    OMG..I'm not on here for maybe 5 minutes and all this happens!  Well...I think I'm freaking speechless...

    Lena..my girl...as Amy would say WTF...I'm glad you are home...

    Betsy, Geri, Helen, Judy...miss talking to you ladies..been very busy...My DEAR SON..almost lost his finger in a wheat thresher two weeks ago today...we have been busy in ER, SURGERY, the plastic surgeon's office plus occupational therapy..I told my son that I really didn't need this stress..plus my daughter's wedding, plus oh yeah..trying to hold down a job...secretly, I'm almost dreading the next couple of months and looking forward to spending a couple of days at the beach after all this is over.

    Saw the onc yesterday..kinda hoping to go every 6 months but it is not to be...every 3 until at least next May after mammo.

    Saw my PCP today because I was feeling like CRAP...he gave me antibiotics..said I had a sinus infection...I knew it wasn't a cold...I think with this freaking humid weather..here in Ohio and everywhere it is causing issues..

    I hope everyone else clears up their issues soon also.

    Helen..I just so wish that something could be done for your hair...dang..isn't there something out there..I just wish there was...I understand why you don't want to wear a wig...

    It's not like Judy to be gone this long....

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2011

    I deleted the posts with links to my photos. They didn't work anyway and today a woman from on here (not someone from our thread) sent me a facebook message. I asked her how she found me and she said she figured it out from the photo link. While I'm not secretive, I'm not totally ready for there to be a direct connection out there for anyone to find me. Just wanted you to know why the posts are deleted.



    I am a bit worried about Judy too. However I know that services can move VERY slowly in Israel so possibly her Internet isn't hooked up yet. I hope that's all it is.



    Titan....how awful about your son. Is there lasting damage or is his finger going to be ok?

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2011

    Betsy, Amy, Lena, Titan, Geri, ...seems we have all had "experiences" but nice to see all of you online. Titan, when is the wedding? Sorry about your son's accident. Lena, you are one tough cookie to be able to do all that walking. My nurse navigator pushed me to walk during treatment as she said that was the best way to not get fatigued. So what you are doing is good for you. I can't imagine you will get too tired for whoopee! Where is Judy?

    At this point I am actually starting to count down the days as I have moved out of the office now.



    Gotta tell you about one interesting think that happened to me today. One of my former students was elected to Parliament (federal government like House of Representatives). He is House Leader and a member of the Prime Minister's Cabinet. I was invited to an event today that he would be attending as a surprise ro him. It was fun and he seemed genuinely happy tom see me - even mentioned me in his speech and made some cute comments. What he wanted to show me the most were pictures of his 2 year old son. It sure is nice for a teacher to see students be so successful

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited August 2011

    Just want to "check-in" say hi and let you know I am ok and thinking of all of you, but have had no time to really post.  Lena - your whole experience sucks!  You don't need me to tell you that, do you...hang in there, as you always do!

    Titan - awful about your son, and then you not feeling well either.

    Amy - glad your vacation wasn't totally ruined, but bet you could have enjoyed it more without the rash.

    Betsy - how are things with you?

    Helen - really wonderful that your former student is so successful and smart enough to realize your role in that success.

    Please forgive me if I've forgotten to mention anyone, but it is late for me, and I am very tired.  Having issues with pain down my posterior thigh into my calf keeping me awake at night - I'm thinking it's sciatica (have back problems, but never had these symptoms).  Have an appointment for follow-up with the onc, and since that is for Tuesday, I will just tough it out till then (and a little Percocet to make it less tough).  Try as I might, the mind wanders to that "dark place" whenever there is a new pain...oh well.

    I also am really concerned about Judy - so unlike her, mama bear that she is.  Hope we hear from her soon.

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Hiya all. Good to see you again Geri, and yes, this all sucks. But yeah, Percocet can be your friend. It has often been mine, too.  ;-) Hope you feel better soon without needing the pain med.

    Titan :-O OMG Did you say your son LOST his finger or ALMOST did?! Yikes in either case, but "almost" has got to be better than "lost," right? And will he make a full recovery in time?

    Helen, I hope the politicians in Canada are more honest than the ones in the USA...and of course I know that wouldn't be saying much but...glad you're proud of your former student. 

    Oh Helen, it just occurs to me. You and I are sorta on the same kind of countdown -- to the date of August 31st. That's your official retirement day and also my last day of rads.

    Ummmm Hmmmm OK, well today is August 4th. Judy, you have until the 10th to get back here before *I* start to think something's wrong. I know, I originally figured you'd be in chaos until the 1st, but now I'm realizing how it took me longer to get back here after my (considerably lesser) move than I had planned, plus, I'm romantically involved with a Pack Rat who's totally disconnected from the spacetime continuum as we know it, which means I'm used to the idea of plans blowing up in one's face/sudden inexplicable and occasionally protracted delays. So, as the result of my understanding of how E. coli happens, I therefore give you until the 10th. That's 5 more days.  :-)

    Big day at the treatment center tomorrow...blah. hematologist at 9 AM, rads at 11:45, rad oncologist right after rads, then 1 PM PCP followup concerning my kidney illness/hospital stay. 

    :::::sigh:::::

    ...and I'm doing this why...?  :-P 

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2011

    Lena, on August 31 you and I will make a virtual toast to good days ahead



    I'm losing my faith in our politicians as well because we continue to have our share of scandals, often once they've been in office too long. What we don't get however (and with all due respect for the democratic process which we all cherish) is what went on in the USA for the past few weeks where it appears to those of us in other countries that your guys had les interest in resolving the debt crisis than they did in trying to make themselves look good. I could be wrong and I don't mean to offend anyone - it's just how it was portrayed. In our government, when the Prime Minister has a majority government, there wil be debate but in the end when the vote is taken the Prime Minister gets his way. Also our Senate is not nearly as powerful as yours and I think they are pretty ineffective. It's a different form of democracy and also has it's problems. Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a political discussion



    How do we go about finding Judy? Israel is a tiny little country

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    I'm here at the medical center between appointments -- just got out from the hematologist and am waiting for 11:45 to have today's rads. But finally, GOOD MEDICAL NEWS!!

    I can go off the Coumadin!!!! No more weekly or biweekly needle sticks or trips up here JUST to have the vampire take my blood for the PT-INR tests I had to get to keep the Coumadin dosage on track.

    I know, that's a small thing (like I'd really rather find out that the kidney business was some kind of sudden fluke and get the damn nephrostomy tubes out already), but this IS the ONLY good medical news I've had in...how long? I don't even remember. 

    LOL Helen, yeah, this isn't the time or place for political discourse, but just FWIW, I am ashamed of being an American and have been for at least the last 15-20 years on account of all the dishonesty and crap and corruption of all our officials from top to bottom. The whole thing is rotted to the core (and from what I've read, has been since before I started really paying any attention at all to politics). OK, nuff said, just wanted to express my opinion on the matter. 

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2011

    Overall though I think those of us who live in Canada and the US are very lucky. There are many places in the world where we would not have the same rights. Now we just need someone to cure this f'n disease. Lena, every bit of good news counts so congrats on today's news! Hope the rest of the day continues to get better and better

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited August 2011

    Ditto what Helen said - you deserve some good news Lena, so "Yeah"

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    uh-HUH, well, anyone want my cold? Dunno where I caught it from, only that it leveled me for the whole weekend (probably in combination with everything ELSE), and oh yeah I have to have surgery on Wednesday to get those darn nephrostomy tubes out, but that'll be a same-day surgery like the BMX was -- no protracted hospital stay. So much for good medical news. When my Pack Rat called me earlier I told him, "You know, I think I was healthier in Superfund toxic waste garbage state NJ". He says, "Except for the cancer?" I said, "ALL I had was the cancer -- my kidneys didn't almost fail in NJ and I didn't get colds like this." 

    (no, I am NOT planning to move back there...it was just a twisted observation.) 

    I told him to stay home tonight (he often comes over on Sunday nights) so he wouldn't catch my cold. 

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2011

    Lena  - I googled the nephrostomy tubes so I didn't have to ask you what they were. I am SO GLAD you are getting them OUT!  The cold will go away in a day or so - I know they are miserable while they last though.

    And I am glad you will be done with the Coumadin. My MIL takes it and has to do lots of blood tests to monitor and adjust the dosage. Sounds like a pain.

    So this morning I went to get blood work done. I haven't done that in AGES. I used to be completely and totally PHOBIC about it - had to do relaxation stuff, bring my IPOD etc etc just to get through it. Well, cancer sure cured me of that. I still don't like it, but I don't get all tense and worked up over it, just drank a lot of water to plump up my veins, stuck my arm out, she hit the vein immediately and I was DONE in no time. I even snuck a peek at the blood coming out, which I NEVER would have done before.

    I had 2 scripts to test for - the onc wants to test that hormone that shows if you are in menopause. Curious to see what that says. The other was a standard set of tests from the GP (cholesterol etc) plus a thyroid test which I requested after reading on BCO that radiation can affect your thyroid and cause it to slow down. That can cause weight gain, which is often blamed on Tamox, because you start that right after rads is over. But it can really be due to thyroid changes, due to rads.  Isn't that interesting? The woman who posted it said it is very rarely discussed (by rad oncs) and almost never checked but SHOULD BE.  I would never have known that without reading it here. WHERE would we be without BCO, or in the pre-internet days? I hate to think about it.

    Anyway, I made my appt for the bloodwork online and it was super easy, quick in and out. Got there by 9, out by 9:10 and ready to go about my day.  THAT's the kind of medical stuff I can live with.

    Hope everyone is well.  I find myself thinking about Judy a lot. I know Israel is a small country (relatively speaking) as someone previously mentioned, but I don't know how we would go about looking for her.  Do you think she could have possibly just decided it was time to leave this chapter of her life behind her? That just seems so unlike her to not say goodbye......

    Love to all -  Lena, please update us after your procedure on Wednesday. And we are counting down to the end of the month with you.

    Amy

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited August 2011

    Hi,

    Amy, I was thinking the same thing...could it be that once Judy made the move back to Israel, she wanted to leave this behind and start over?  But then again, like you, it would seem so out of character for her to just disappear.  I wonder if she knows how we all miss her?

    Lena - feel better

    Everyone else, have a good week.  I have my onc 3 month follow-up tomorrow...wish it didn't always bring such angst.

    Geri 

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited August 2011

    Hello ladies! I am sorry that I have not been in touch for so long. It has been such a crazy couple of months, but I did not forget about you. It has taken time to get back on line.

    So, we have finally arrived at our new apartment in Israel and our shipment arrived two days ago. We are up to our eyes in boxes and making slow progress. Of course, I cannot do things as quickly as before, so it will get done eventually.

    I am feeling ok, although very tired and disorientated. It was strange to see old friends who had not seen me since my BC, but everyone has been wonderfully supportive and helpful. I think it will take some time to settle down in a new place again.

    I have not managed to catch up on the past two months here, and I hope that everyone is doing well at the moment.

    I will try to come back again soon and to get back into the swing of things, this is a very important part of my life...

    Sending you all hugs and I will come by again soon, Judy xxxxx

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited August 2011

    JUDY!!!!!!!!

    Your note made my day. I know others in our little group will post soon to say the same! We were really getting concerned about you. So glad you are doing ok.

    Sending love across the ocean to you - we really really missed you!!!!

    Amy

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited August 2011

    Thank you! I missed you all too!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited August 2011

    JUDY! JUDY! We have missed you so much! So happy to have you back here with us. When you get time, please tell us more about where you are living and how it feels to be back. I think someone referred to you as our mamma bear. I do hope you are feeling well. Do you have doctors that will continue to follow you?

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited August 2011

    (((HUGS))) Judy - we all missed you so...whenever you can post we all understand how busy you must be and how tiring a move like this is, but I for one, am just soooo happy to hear from you!

    BTW - my onc appointment was good - have a 4 month break now Cool get to enjoy the rest of the summer!

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited August 2011

    Ah-HA!!!!!!!   See everybody, what did I TELL you? Judy came back almost EXACTLY as I predicted (today's the 10th, remember the 4th when I said she had 5 more days? LOL)! You all are just a bunch of worry warts LOL. 

    HI JUDY!!!!!!! Welcome back!!!!  :-D

    Yeah I can indeed imagine how disoriented you feel from the move. Even though I only moved a few hundred miles instead of halfway around the planet, I felt that way too when I first moved here, and then again recently when I came home after a protracted stay in the hospital. It'll take awhile, but you'll get used to it. Is this apartment anywhere near where you used to live in Israel before you went to the USA? 

    OK -- here's the report, everyone: the damn nephrostomy tubes are OUT and as of tomorrow I can start taking REAL showers again! FINALLY! Surgery went well -- no problems whatsoever either going down or coming back up. 

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