I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2011

    oh, darn, I'm drooling on my keyboard again....

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited July 2011

    Yikes, Caerus - be sure to take off your tinfoil hat when you drool!!!  It could short circuit!

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2011

    gracie, First off the kids have 30 minutes total that includes standing in line to get their food, eat, play outside, no recess other than lunch time.

    That being said a normal lunch includes say a hamburger, fries, corn, piece of fruit, plus milk

    Another day might be a 6 inch piece of pizza, corn, fruit, and a salad..

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    Must cost a fortune.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited July 2011

    Ohhh... sweet potato fries!  They have to be healthier than those starchy ol' Irish potatoes.  Give me a couple of hours to do the investigation, and I'll provide some evidence.  (Maybe we don't need evidence?)

    Cukes... sorry.  They make me burp something awful.  I don't  know what it is, but even one cuke buried in a salad gives me an upset stomach.  Kind of like onions -- I have to pick them off, unless of course they're Vidalia onions (along with other sweet onions), which aren't onions at all.   No way could onions taste that good.

    Sheesh.  I had lunch, but now I'm hungry again.

    otter

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2011

    thenewmeTongue outKiss

    Boy, I am staying away from trying to talk sense on other threads....whew!  Maybe it's te steam that's making the tinfoil hat stick to my head??????

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    No recess? Yikes....would hate to be a teacher with a bunch of cooped-up kids.

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited July 2011

    Gracie - my favorite school lunch menu listing (they print them in the paper here) is Tuesday - Pizza and Corn. Pizza and Corn??? This was some years ago - they do all offer salad bars, now. I have no idea what's on them. Still seem to be an awful lot of chicken nuggets.

    Speaking of chicken, I had cold Fricken Chicken for lunch. Delicious!

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2011

    I work for a very poor school district. Lets just say it's the kind of place where fresh foods aren't in the kids diets. I wish we had a salad bar. I will say though they at least offer a small salad, but then all the other junk is still available for them as well.

    I really wish our schools realized the importance of recess. It's all FCAT prep. Don't get me started.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    I just had my laugh for the day..pizza and corn..printed in the paper yet. What's FCAT?

  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited July 2011

    Anyone watch Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution when it was on tv?  I absolutely love his attempts to get kids and schools to look at healthy alternatives!

    I went to my grandson's school to have lunch with him last year.  A hockey puck tasteless hamburger, and some iceberg lettuce they called a salad.  Not a positive experience.  I think our lunches when I was in school were better, because they weren't using all of the processed foods and fillers.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    How does this work? Do you pay for the meal? Is it subsidized?

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2011

    FCAT is the state test. If the kids don't pass they can't move on to the next grade. It also gives the school it's school grade of A-F.  If your school is anything other than an A the government gets involved because the school is at risk of failure. A couple of years ago when we were a B school the Principal was fired(transferred in the district) the AP became a 2nd grade teacher so replaced as well.

    The children do pay for the food I believe it's 2.50. At our school 95% get free or reduced lunch.

    As I said it is a rural area surrounded by orange groves. The smell of the flowers can be over powering in my humble opinion.

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited July 2011

    My nephews father-in-law is the head of food service for a large district. One that Jamie Oliver came into. Interestingly Oliver didn't attempt to talk with him or work with him, but rather just went after what made good TV. 

    Our schools have the salad bar thing and kids have to pick a fruit and a vegetable off it at a minimum. We never knew about kiwis until they started appearing on the school salad bar! I know that the schools are dealing with a difficult balance -- what kids will actually eat, meeting detailed nutritional guidelines, dealing with cost, getting food out to a various locations still in edible form -- I don't envy their job. I have seen a lot of change toward healthy eating in the past 19 years that I've had kids in public schools (in three different states as well). The best food always came from small schools/districts where there were kitchens onsite, but that isn't financially possible in many locations. 

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited July 2011

    Well, wow. Just wow.

    I remember our school lunches being pretty good except for fish sticks every Friday. Yuck.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2011
    Fish sticks only during lent now.Smile
  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    I say wow too. I can't wrap my head around a school cafeteria...we don't have that here.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2011

    gracie, do your kids go home for lunch?

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited July 2011

    I forgot to respond to Gracie's questions. The federal government subsidizes lunches for kids whose family income meets certain levels. When I was a kid this led to the embarassment of handing out the "free lunch passes" to poor kids. Now they typically each have an account and they give the lunch lady their number so noone knows who gets free lunches. I believe there are also subsidies for certain foods or districts are provided with some of the food the government buys (to subsidize farmers). There usually is a reduced lunch rate for kids whose families have inbetween incomes. In our district full pay lunches are $2.25 for elementary kids and $2.50 to $3.00 for secondary students. Menus are heavy on things like pizza, burgers, tacos, burritos, chicken nuggets, subs, etc. for the main course, but everything that can be whole grain is now.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    Well, my son in elementary school is lucky enough to live close enough to run home....most kids brown-bag it. In high school they do the same, unless they have their license to drive somewhere for a meal.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited October 2012

    I can't imagine what it costs to keep programs like that going. Kira, what's the rationale behind no recess?

  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited July 2011

    Several schools in Kentucky have added breakfast also, as they figured out that many children were going without meals at home. 

    I was never a fan of the fish sticks, but the absolute bane of my existance, and always seemed to be on the day I was lunch monitor, was tuna pea wiggle! Yuck!

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited July 2011

    My kids had a cafeteria a their elementary school.  The lunches were pretty healthy.  In high school, they brownbagged it or went to a sandwich shop for lunch.

    I tend to bring my lunch to work.  I work in a college, and the cafeteria food is awful. 

  • Ang7
    Ang7 Member Posts: 1,261
    edited July 2011

    I thought the conversation was food?

    I love the Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution show - got the whole family to watch.

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited July 2011

    Eating in the cafeteria isn't required in publics schools here. Many kids do brown bag it, and older high schoolers often go off campus to eat (that all depends on local policies). Parents can also arrange for their children to go home for lunch but depending on the local policies that can be complicated by saftey regulation -- like you'd have to come to the school and sign them out then sign them back in, in our district they wouldn't be allowed to leave during the school day without adult supervision. And then there are the parents who show up at lunch to bring the kid food from McDonalds or some such. See, it can be worse than cafeteria food!

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited July 2011

    IronJawed, I'm afraid to ask, but really have to know exactly what tuna pea wiggle is.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2011

    In our school we have so many poor kids. The parents really do rely on the kids getting a good lunch. It isn't unusual for the kids to go to bed with something like a bowl of rice. We also offer breakfast in the morning, and a snack before lunch. Up till this year I would bring the snack, but this year with Obama's concern about the foods the kids eat the kids got either fruit of vegetables for snack.

  • covertanjou
    covertanjou Member Posts: 569
    edited July 2011

    I hate fish stick as well!  YUCK!  

    My kids high school offered breakfast.  It was VERY inexpensive.  Our elementary schools offer milk to the students at recess.  I think anything that schools can do for disadvantaged kids (inexpensive breakfast/lunch/snacks) is a good idea.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited July 2011

    Oh, tapioca was forever ruined for me by school lunches.  Bread pudding, too.  And as I was raised in the part of the Midwest with no water for fishing (because the fish in the rivers would hit you back if you tried ... or they had 5 eyes and a fin growing out of their noses), for many years I thought ALL fish was square and came with breading.  I actually didn't realize that tuna was a fish until middle school -- fish came out of the freezer and tuna came from a can!

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited July 2011

    RP, good luck with that.  I don't think you've identified the problem.

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