No reconstruction- Happy w/your decision?

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  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited June 2011

    Tina,

    Thank you for the information about your recovery process.  I can ask my PS about stretching.  He wasn't going to stitch the muscle back together, but I told him It just sounded more secure to sew things back together, he said he could if I really wanted him to.  He doesn't think I need to stay overnight in the hospital.  He likes to send people home if he can, as they are usually more comfortable there. I hope I will feel ok enough to go home.  But I can stay if I need to.

  • MinusLboob
    MinusLboob Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2011

    i thought i started a new string - am i the only one who wants a bionic boob, but cannot paste link here.....but im looking for an artist/tailor to make me a strap on metallic boob, leather & foam? anyone sew?

  • shippy41
    shippy41 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2011

    i am supposed to have deconstruction in two days (friday 17 june)and last week i caught a cold (friday10 june) does anyone know if that would interfere with my recovery or surgery. what is the pain like after surgery? if i dont have the surgery this friday i will have to wait 2 weeks and i want it over already!. any advice? thanks

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    Drat, Shippy! Are you almost well now? I would ask to be sure, but if you don't have a fever and are no longer contagious, they might do if you are just wrapping up with the symptoms. My friend had her bilateral mastectomy about a week after a cold, and she was fine. Ultimately, you want what's best for your body and healing, so if you need to wait, then that's the right thing. I hope it goes as planned though. Please keep us posted and let us know when you're scheduled. We will be rooting for you!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    Faith, it sounds like your surgeon is attentive to your concerns. Being in your own home and bed can be comforting, but the ability to stay overnight if needed is a good thing. Make sure they give you prescription pain meds. The whole procedure may leave you rather sore. I assume you'll have drains, too. 

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited June 2011

    For upbeat suggestions as Marlee1 mentioned in the OP I think Minus's suggestion with leather, metal and strappy-stuff takes some beating! Buckles, studs maybe?? Or touch-sensitive flashing lights?! I think this will link through to the new thread you made on Bionic boobs, Minus. http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/770365 but my links don't always work. A bit like my touch-sensitives...  Embarassed

  • Carmelle
    Carmelle Member Posts: 388
    edited June 2011

    I too had too many surgeries and things during the first year and a half. I postponed until about two years after. I did have some complications and several more surgeries to repair.

    I did not do for cosmetic reasons but for other more unexpected feelings. I found that having the weight and feel of my chest back helped me to forget. Also after bilateral with no fat or skin on chest it was always having to wear something so clothes wouldn't sag or gap open. I swim and bathing suit was a pain etc.

    Then after several more years I had the nipple tattoos. Really had to brace myself for these things. Resent the invasion after so much time has passed. The outcome is not beautiful, nor would I pose for any calendar but it looks Ok and once again helps me forget. When i step out of shower and catch a glimpse in mirror it doesn't remind me anymore.

    Not vanity but jsut wanting to put it behind...move on.

  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited June 2011

    Tina - yes, I may have drains, and I may have to go back to work with them still in.  I'm at the computer most of the day, so hoping it won't be too uncomfortable. 

    Carmelle - I'm happy for you that reconstruction has helped you forget and feel better.  I can tell by your avitar that you are a swimmer!  Enjoy!  Looks like a beautiful family too.    

  • shippy41
    shippy41 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2011

    hi just wanted to let you all know that i am feeling much better cold almost gone (tons of zinc, and vit c). my surgery is tomorrow at 4 pm i am actually excited because it is finally HERE!!!! i will let you all know how it goes. i am so much more at peace about my decision mostly cause i had a dream that i looked at my new body and said that;s not as bad as i thought. sooo talk to ya all soon, i hope:)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    Shippy, that's wonderful. I will be thinking of you, and wish you the best. Hope the surgery goes as well as possible and you have a speedy recovery. Here's to feeling good again!

  • shippy41
    shippy41 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2011

    hi all i just got back home from the "deconstruction." and honestly i feel much better than i expected. mostly a little bit sore and tired. Today i saw the scars a bit but they didnt unset me like i thought they would. I have two drains but so far no problems except where to put them? i looked at myself flat in clothers and its not soo bad i look kindaa cute and thin. i am so glad i made this decision . thanks for all your support.

  • Faithroad
    Faithroad Member Posts: 432
    edited June 2011

    Shippy -  Happy "D" day!  I'm thrilled to hear that your deconstruction went well and that you are glad about your decision.  Hope you are continueing to heal; wishing you a quick and healthy recovery.  Drains are a necessity that is no fun.....but hope you don't need them for too long.  Hang in there! 

    Your results and attitude are very encouraging.  I'm right behind you, as I'm expecting my PS to call and schedule mine for sometime in the next couple of weeks.  The sooner the better!  Smile

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2011

    Shippy, I wore a short sleeved hoodie and put them in the pockets. Congrats!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    Yay, Shippy! Glad all went well and you're feeling pretty good. And I'm glad the scars didn't upset you as much as you anticipated and you are pleased with your decision. Yes, having a smaller chest does make for a more youthful look! I think you will discover that a lot of clothes this season work very well with a small chest. As far as what to do with the drains, I found if I wore stretchy workout bottoms, I was able to tuck a lot of the extra tubing inside just below the front of the waistband and pin the bulbs inside on the sides of a button down shirt. Likewise, the extra tubing can be hidden under a flowy skirt with an elastic band. As long as the waistband or fabric below doesn't cut off the flow/suction of the drains, you should be fine. Congratulations!

  • shippy41
    shippy41 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2011

    hi all, i am now 4 days post deconstruction and have a few questions. How soon after surgery were you allowed to walk. i am an active person and this sitting inside all day is driving me crazy!!! did any of you have burning sensation at the drain site on chest? what can i wear to go outside that covers my drains but isnt a tent!. i am feeling really impatient to get back to normal and wonder what your suggestions are. thanks!!!!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2011

    I walked right away, but was careful about not carrying anything (no purse!). I used a hoodie and brought the tubes up underneath my cami and put them in the pockets. I did burn at the drain site. It's pretty brutal, an open wound, literally! I'm surprised it didn't hurt worse when you think about it....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    Barbe's hoodie trick works well, and I mentioned tucking the tubing inside stretchy workout pants or a skirt with an elastic waist. I would pin the drain bulbs to the inside of a button front shirt. Yeah, those drains are uncomfortable. As long as the drain site doesn't become red and inflamed or you develop a fever, you should be fine. Walking is actually good for you, as long as you don't overdo it. If you can walk around the block or just up and down your street a few times a day, you will probably feel much better. I got all gung ho and walked 5 miles a few days in a row and that increased my drain output. I backed off a bit and the output went down. They're a pain, but drains are your friend! I think you are now four or five days post surgery? The first week is definitely the hardest, and you should be feeling much better soon.

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited June 2011

    I didn't have Deconstruction but following my BMX I walked. I am a thin & the drains sat uncomfortably on my ribs. It was just as uncomfortable staying home doing nothing & walking took my mind off of it. The weather will probably determine how you can hide it. I just wore a long sleeve button-up & rolled the sleeves up if I got to warm. Not very stylish. I go crazy staying home. My husband took me for a drive up in the local mountains to see the wildflowers(it was still spring). The bumpy road was problematic & made my drains hurt. But I was fine walking.

  • anumacha
    anumacha Member Posts: 83
    edited June 2011

    I have allergies to drains, ports, and sutures, but even after meeting surgeons and being a case study - I still said NO.  even telling me I would feel off balance - never happened... i was back to normal activities in 5 days, drove in 3, and docs just could not keep me down. Sports bras worked great and did long mens tshirts at home pinned up to hold drains. I forget the fake boob often and one of my critters stole it - thought it was a new toy!!! LIFTING is still a problem so I have the guys help me at work.

  • shippy41
    shippy41 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2011

    thanks its now a week since deconstruction!! i have taken a few leasurily strolls trying to keep my arms still but still my drain output isnt low enough to remove ( about 40 cc a day) yesterday i walked too far and the color changed back to cranberry rather than the orange...sorry for the gorry details. any suggestions. Do I want to not use my arms at all? do i want to try to decrease the output. i mean if the fluid is in there dont i want it to come out? i am so confused, i wish my dr gave me more guidance. all he said was take it easy and his nurse said stay in bed for a week! i am not a stay in bed type person. can i do laundry? fold laundry? wash dishes? i dont know what the guidlines are?does anyone know? thanks so much you all have been enormously helpful

    ps. i still think my chest looks cute! 

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited June 2011

    shippy41,

    Glad you're still happy with your chest -- that's the most important thing for the long run. As far as activity and drains, sounds as if you should let your body be your guide. Clearly too much walking isn't good for you right now. I would do what feels comfortable regarding housework, but watch the drain output closely. Lifting a heavy laundry basket or heavy pots doesn't seem like a great idea to me.

    The sooner you can get rid of the drains, the better you'll feel. As I understand it, if you're putting too much strain on the surgical site (that's trying to heal), the fluid output will increase. 40cc isn't too bad, so hopefully your output will decrease in the next few days and you'll be able to get the drains out soon. 

     

  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited June 2011

    40 cc's is not a lot. Mine were taken out at 20cc's. As a nurse I have experience with drains in the hospital setting & sometimes when we get people out of bed & moving, the amount can increase & the color can change. It could just be minor but acceptable movement of the drain it's self. When my drains were removed, the left was clear orange & the right was darker than cranberry. The amount of output  is more important. My left side had more pain & was slower to heal. They are uncomfortable!!!!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2011

    Shippy, you'll want to start moving your arms to get your range of motion back. Not lifting things, but crawl your fingers up the wall until you feel a tug and then stop. Do it every day and you'll see improvement. It's good to get the fluid out of you. If you laid in bed for a week, then got the drains out and started to move, your body wouldn't be able to handle the amount of fluid that would build up! Your nurse was wrong. Your output is low. I was still putting out about 100 cc a week after surgery, so you're doing great!!

    Don't be afraid to move your arms or it will be harder when you do start.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2011

    How are you feeling, Shippy? I agree 40ccs is not high and you should be done with those drains in no time!

  • shippy41
    shippy41 Member Posts: 49
    edited June 2011

    thanks so much for asking you are all so nice and supportive. the plastic surgeon is going to remove the drains this wednesday. he said i can walk as long as i dont swing my arms. he said the more i move the arms the more the pectoral muscles will rub and cause scarring. he said not to do much at all. so i am reading lots, walking with my arms to the side and not using the computer ( lol) any suggestions on what not to do to not use the pectoral muscles.

    tonight i am going out for the first time since surgery its my son's birthday (22!!!) and i cant wait . life is good:)

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited June 2011

    Hi ladies,

    Just wanted to tell my story.  I had a BMX 3 years ago.  I opted for the prophylactic on the non-bc side because my girls were large 42 DD.  I didn't want one large girl & no girl. It turned out to be a good decision for me as I turned out to have precancer cells on the non-bc side. 

    Because of the aggressiveness of my bc I was told I would need to wait at least a year after rads before I could do reconstruction.  After radiation I had no interest in having reconstruction.  I tried to wear poofs but soon gave those up.  The rads made a mess out of my scar on my bc and it took a long time to heal.

    I really didn't mind at all being flat.  I just learned to dress in a different way & most people who didn't remember how I looked don't even notice that I am flat. I was at peace about being flat.

    This past year I started having a lot of infections & cellulitis on the bc side. I thought I would try to get a scar revision.  The plastic surgeon wanted me to do hyperbaric oxygen treatments before surgery.  So I did them & they did help clear up the cellulitis on my side & arm.  

    Unfortunately when I finally got to see the PS she tells me I can't just have a scar revision but she will need to do a lat-flap.  I was blown away when she told me.  I know that is a good procedure but just not one I want to have.

    So I found another PS who does the DIEP.  She confirmed my thinking that because I have such a large area of damage from the radiation that the DIEP is the best way to fix it.  I have decided to do it because I just can't go on having infections every couple of months.  I am at peace now about doing the reconstruction but I am still a little nervous about it.

    I was happy being flat. So for those who choose that option I support you 100%. I would just encourage everyone to make the best decision for YOU!  NJ

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited June 2011

    Hi Norma June,

    You've really been through a lot and I'm sorry you've been plagued with cellulitis--that must be very scary. Do you have any lymphedema? If not, do your doctors believe the infections are a result of radiation damage?

    I'm just wondering why having a DIEP will reduce the risk of infection? By getting rid of most of the radiated skin? Have you continued having infections even after you had the hyperbaric oxygen treatments? 

    I can certainly understand that you would like to have the DIEP reconstruction even though you were happy being flat. I'm just a little confused as to how the DIEP will lessen the risk of infection. 

    I'm glad you're at peace with your decision (a little nervousness is understandable!). I hope you wind up with a beautiful reconstruction and are able to eliminate the infection risk.

    Barbara 

  • Lunakin
    Lunakin Member Posts: 120
    edited June 2011

    Shippy, glad to hear you're doing well after the deconstruction.

    Don't be in a hurry to get the drains out....Yeah, I hated them too. But I suspect that putting up with the drain longer might have prevented me from getting the seromoa I then developed. I could just push slightly on the mx scar area and you'd see a fluid wave all the way up to my collarbone. Hideously uncomfortable. My BS drained the seroma by needle & syringe, it came back, she drained it again, it came back, again, I got a drain put in and wore it this time until I was well below 20ccs.  

    That burning sensation you mention -- I still have a burning sensation around the draintube spot, 2 years later, but most of the time it's mild. Most women have it temporarily and then it resolves. 

    Gentle range of motion with the arms is good. No stretching at the extremes. I stretched as much as I could (I work in rehab medicine, so stretching, strengthening is good, right?) and ignored my BS's advice to only slightly stretch. I probably stretched enough to break the lymphatics trying to re-connect after sx and the SNB which removed 3 nodes (all neg). Then I developed some trunckal LE :-(  just above the mx scar and over to the shoulder. Oh, who really knows why we get these complications. 

    Wishing you a good recovery.

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited June 2011

    hey, snippy...I've been gone for a few weeks from here, but just in case it's helpful, my doc had me wear a ribbon around my neck (like a necklace) and pin my drain bulbs to that....kept them from dragging/hanging and pulling.  I kept an extra one for showers, so I always had a dry one handy.  Worked great for me.

    As for the clothes, I'm 1.5 yrs past my BMX (no reconst) and I don't wear my forms, but I haven't thrown out any of my old clothes yet....just in case.  There are many things I don't wear, but I'm holding on to them - just in case.  I, like the others, have found things that work for me.....I love to wear scarves and have found them to "hide" me just a bit (or at least draw the eye away)...I've even found lower necklines to do well (unless they're TOO low, which then goes to a flat chest top)...

    I don't have the fat ridge, either, and had no lipo, and no PS.  So, it just must be for "special ladies" Smile 

     When I've worn my forms, it flares up my lymphedema, which happens to be in my armpits and back of the armpit area....where I can't do much about it :(   ugh.  I have a sleeve and gaunlet, just in case it ever becomes worse, but haven't needed them thus far.  I've gotten the most relief from massages from a specialist who works with cancer patients - she also does cranial-sacral massage, too. 

    Anyway, lotsa luck and blessings to all...robin

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2011

    Norma June, I am very worried for you!!! Why would such an invasive surgery mean that you won't get any more infections? I would think it would make it all way worse!?!?!?! I hope you have had it all explained and I am just missing a link because I don't see the logic.

    Shippy, you're doing great! Let us know when the drains come out.

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