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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited February 2011

    Demonstrations which lead to bad behavior are not per se "group think". Although group think can lead to demonstrations not all demonstrations are the result of "group think".  The mere agreement as to a goal is not group think.  The demonstrations in Egypt had the common goal of getting rid of Mubarak.  The demonstrators may have had many different reasons for their participation and the elections should show that these demonstrators have differing ideas on what should be done next.

    However, when people believe something just because if fits previously held opinions and without analysis to the accuracy of the new information that can be a component to "group think".  The term usually includes the initiator of the information being a powerful or influential person or organization whose followers fail or refuse to analyze the information given for accuracy or truthfulness.  Media stories that show only one side of a situation feed "group think".  Viral e-mails are infamous sources of material for "group think" especially around election time.

    The following is from the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy: http://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#Group%20Think

    Group Think

    A reasoner commits the group think fallacy if he or she substitutes pride of membership in the group for reasons to support the group's policy. If that's what our group thinks, then that's good enough for me. It's what I think, too. "Blind" patriotism is a rather nasty version of the fallacy.

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  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited February 2011

    They organized a non-violent revolution and now they're organizing a clean-up operation. I think these people are capable of running a country. See pictures of the clean up at Tarir Square here:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12440015 

      

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  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited February 2011

    Sounds like a good day here.  Congrats on those that had good news to share.  I have been working all day and am exhausted.  

    Wishing an early Happy Valentines day to everyone. 

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  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited February 2011

    Oops.  I forgot to welcome our 'wabbit' back.

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  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited February 2011

    Kadeeb - they're not gone but they'll be a little less nasty for a few days - whenever Melissa is around they cool it a bit then start up later in the week at night crescendoing on Friday night and Saturday - it's easy to just not get involved with their nastiness - like bad children they eventually go away because they're bored.

    PIP - Happy Valentine's Day to you too - put your feet up - do you have any chocolate?

    Sandy

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2011

    Internet service from this phone - crap. Blue's loooong post.........amazing. Trips to mud or sludge sites - not good for the brain. Kk - you light up this forum - remember that in this dark hour of your mind. Soetero - namecalling and pure jiongoism. The cancer card -- sorry, I only take cash......Excuse the disjointed rant - my phone connection times out in a second....

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2011

    Madalyn, welcome back! Lewing's banning - an outrage. I think we will all have to come up with avatars for troll Fridays. Groupthink - more dangerous than cancer. See you all later. Damned phone doesn't even let me start a new line!

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    Welcome back Wabbit!! Missed you!!!

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    OT - Oh, pic from this afternoon watching DH's band at the beach bar. It was maybe 68 but the temp was dropping fast when I left at 5. A much needed temporary escape. They sounded great and had about 200 people even as cold as it was. However, some were from northern climes where 68 and an offshore breeze over cold (48) water is fine. I had silk long johns, long sleeved T-shirt, sweatshirt and fleece jacket on. Still froze by behind off. Home now in comfy 74 degrees.

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  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited February 2011

    Barbara, I hope you aren't expecting the Canadian ladies here to feel sorry for you having to wear warm clothes.  It looks like a beautiful day there to me.  No one is wearing parkas or scarves and one guy is in short sleeves.  Looks tropical from here!

    Edited to add:  Sandy, I ALWAYS have chocolate handy.  Dark chocolate is like medicine for we bc girls! 

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    PIP, I know. I just have blood that has thinned out. Not to mention, I have lost 20 lbs since BC and am at 104 now. Trying to eat eat eat but not yet. I thought the cruise would do it but man, I gained 2 lbs. Not enough!

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2011

    HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY to this whole thread. May friendship triumph over jingoism, jealousy and fear. Barbara, I lived in south and central Florida and never got used to the heat. I gained weight thanks to hormone therapy, and it is coming off very slowly. Lots and lots of exercise.

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  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited February 2011

    BarbaraA - 68 degrees - I am SUCH a Canadian I'd be in the water - pathetic I know.

    Sandy

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  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited February 2011

    Barbara:  What kind of cruise is that where you don't gain weight.  Was it a Weight Watchers Cruise?   Seriously, most cruises pride themselves on making us fat with all the tons of food we are expected to gourge on all day and night!  Only 2 lbs!  Most women would envy you but I hope it wasn't due to your not feeling well enough to eat.   I hope you had a great cruise anyway!

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  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited February 2011

    Barbara, I am really NOT sympathizing with you now!  Two pounds....on a cruise!?

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011
    CryI really tried! I never eat sweets and I ate dessert twice a day!! But i did do a 3 mile walk every day.
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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited February 2011

    I KNOW - as problems go' I would rather have the underweight one. You have an enviable metabolism.

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    Athena, When I quit smoking the last time (after emergency surgery for a perforated ulcer due to me stupidly self-medicating with Advil because of bad migraines they didn't medicate me for after a bazillion tests) I gained a TON of weight and was up to 140 after about a year. So stupid me started smoking and got back down to my weight I had weighed since my 30's...125,

    But in reality, I think this is really a better weight for me. No stomach pooch, no floppy arm things. But I really do think 108 is better, since that is what I was since diagnosis. Confused about what the 103 thing is. But I am eating chicken florentine and asparagus when DH gets home (30 min.). And I plan to CHOW down!

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  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited February 2011

    Barbara, I "hate" you!  :-)  I haven't weighed 108 since maybe 6th grade.....maybe 8th grade and I haven't weighed 120 since my 20s.  In fact I'd be happy if I could get back to 140---its my goal weight.  blech!  The last two weeks I have worked out, walked at a fast pace and consumed giant spinach salads and tiny dinners.  And the only impact: weight up because of the muscle factor.  On thursday, we go on holiday....I'm not even going to try to watch what I eat.  How can one watch what they eat when touring bakeries and chocolate shops?

    Happy V day! to all the Americans----is it V-day in  Canada?

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    Sorry 3monst, I am a small thing. Maybe 5'1" and small boned. BUT I have big boobs. Go figure.

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  • floralgal
    floralgal Member Posts: 69
    edited March 2011

    Went to delete my posts and I can't delete that cartoon.  Can't edit.....  I guess that means someone(s) reported it.  Sorry to offend the fans and supporters of Rep. Chris Lee.  Wink

    Peace Out!

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited February 2011

    Sorry folks. Us Floridians find this weather to be painful. I am now at home enjoying 72 degrees of heat. At night we have a great down comforter and turn the heat down to 63. Fine with me, except when I have to go to the bathroom. I do that real quick.

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  • Ellie1959
    Ellie1959 Member Posts: 316
    edited February 2011
    BarbaraA - I want to be you - used to have big boobs - gone, used to be thin - gone, oh well - I'd rather be fat and sassy and still here I guess. Happy Valentines day Darlings!Kiss
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  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited February 2011

    I have gained 20 lbs since diagnosis, and that is with keeping track of what I eat and exercising. I was too thin and stressed when I was diagnosed, so I don't really want to go back to my pre-bc weight, but I certainly would like to take 10 lbs off.  However, I do have cleavage now, which I never had before, so there may be some advantage to weight gain.

    I am celebrating for a friend tonight.  When I was going through treatment, I went to a Blues Festival that is held in Henderson, KY every year, and saw Chubby Carrier and his Bayou Swamp Band perform their wonderful Zydeco music for the first time.  I was sick and exhausted when I arrived, but was revitalized and felt so alive when the evening was done.  Over the years we have followed his career, and gone to any venue we could.  He is one of my facebook buddies.  This afternoon, he won a Grammy, first time nominated, in the Cajun/Zydeco category. Cooked a big batch of gumbo, and poured some hurricanes while we watched.  I am just so tickled for this small town bayou guy from Louisiana and the great guys in the band.  However, I will say, if I could have reached through the computer and throttled Kathy Griffin, I would have done so.  The non-mainstream contenders get so little recognition, her nasty foul sense of humor demeaned their brief moment in time even further.  Lifting a glass to Joseph Carrier, Earl, Randy and the rest of the guys. Hold on to your dreams, peeps!

    Fat and sassy is much better than the alternative!

    Peace, baby!

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    OMG!  I had never even heard of the other site before today.  They are speculating that White Rabbit and I are the deleters on this site.  Too funny.  It is like Jr. High behavior.

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  • kadeeb
    kadeeb Member Posts: 305
    edited February 2011

    Sea Foobs, You only joined in Jan. We had deleters before that. Do they think they know something we don't? edited to add : are they using MT?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    They also weresaying that someone else was now chanel(something).  I just can't believe that another site would be trying to figure out the going on of this one.

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  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited February 2011

    kadeeb:  They are just having fun at our expense and we need to ignore them and just learn to be more thick skinned.  I consider myself to have skin of steel after everything I have survived in life but somehow when I read adults mocking other adults and myself just because they "can", it does have a way of bothering me even with my steel skin.  However, I intend on ignoring them and hoping they will find another playground to play in and ignore us too.

    BTW,  what is MT?  Is it some kind of medication?  I never heard of it.  Thanks!

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  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited February 2011

    Not sure but I think MT is mental telepathy??

    Mary 

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  • kadeeb
    kadeeb Member Posts: 305
    edited February 2011

    Medigal,

    Yes,YramAL is right.  SeaFoob told me she had it when she predicted the deleters were about to strike on Friday night. I wanted to talk to her about the stock market but her gift seems to be going in and out at the moment.

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