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  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Ok Barbe -  Ok Nettie, need you tuff back bone,  got some heart strings playing here.  DD & SIL picked children up Friday as they should, I had a 1/2 gallon of milk I sent along as by Monday Eve it would have been not so good, anyway Amanda made the statement "GOOD  - CAUSE WE ARE BROKE",  it bothered me then  thinking oh no are the kids going to eat this weekend.   Did my Sunday check and Amanda was going to prepare baked potatoes and the packages of the Lipton Noodle stuff for dinner  - and thats where I am sad, didn't say anything to her,  but being an old granny, thinking oh no thats not a well rounded meal for Landen and Ella,  my heart is saying I should send food over for them on the weekends - my brain says NO -

    I also got a call this weeknd for them on my phone that they needed to call  RENT KING  ASAP, the guy didn't say why , but I guaranteee it's for the bedroom stuff they have new in Landens room. I told Amanda he called she just said  -  OK,  and then of coarse they have their stupid car payment they in no way needed. 

    I just need one of you all to kick my #$#@,  I just worry that Landen and Ella won't be eating correctly, they also have to pack their lunches for Monday school, I know the school will tell me if something is up.  URGHHHHHHHH

  • momof3sofar
    momof3sofar Member Posts: 123
    edited January 2011

    HANG TOUGH!!!  I know it is breaking your heart to think of the kids not eating well and your DD being broke again but this is where you HAVE to stay the course!!!!  The kids will not be harmed by a few days of eating junk.  No it is not a good thing but it is time for DD to start making better choices and at least the kids DID eat.  The school will watch to make sure they have food for lunch as well.  Please, Please just let this play out and feed the kids lots of healthy foods when they get home.

     HUGS, I can't imagine how hard this must be for you!!!

    Dawn

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 3,697
    edited January 2011

          it sounds like they are sinking financially already, now is not the time to help them.  It will be hardbut that is what tough love is all about.  Report it to caseworker, the broke comment, what you saw served and phonecall and concern for lunch packed.  School will notice also and should tell case worker.  If you help them by providing food each weekend, they will expect it each weekend.  Tough love time, Cathi!  Karen

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    THANKS GIRLS, it is so hard, just talked Ed's off while football play offs on - not good, but we can't/won't provide food/money for them mutual decision -   I just can't bare the thought of Landen and Ella,  but they aren't without  - just now what I consider WELL ROUNDED ,  I just have to keep remembering all the things DD * SIL say and do throughout the week,  like I just said to Ed can't tell you how many times through the week Amanda calla me on her way home from meeting in car with SIL and they are stopping at some fast food place,  like Ed just said they could take that money buy a piece of meet a bag of carrots and some potatoes and use the crock-pot we got them for Christmas to have several days of food -  and that's exactly why we bought that and as we figured it would be a big help if/when the kids go home full time to be prepared ahead . 

    They so did not need to buy the car they did,  paid way way to much money for it,  and payments THATS JUST STUPID,  thats how Ed makes a living,  he got Jaclyn a car 4 years ago on a trade he paid $100 for it, she put  $1400 of repair into it, tires, brakes, etc,  nice, nice little car and she is still driving it -  Ed says they are paying about $4000 more for this VOLVO than they should be, it needs tires,  and they never test drove it,  and rent to owning bedroom furniture for Landen and he's not even there full time yet - SO FOOLISH, they could go once a month to the consignment shops down here and out and out buy something way cheaper,  I have NO CLUE what happened to the bed he had  when they were removed- they probably sold it.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    A Volvo!!! Well that explains it! Truly just image. What an idiot!!! Both of them.

    Cathi you know you are strong enough. The kids won't starve in 3 days and you know it. DO report everything and stand tough. Shame on the two older kids in this situation. They both deserve a knock up the side of the head!!!!!!!!!!! Yell

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    THANKS BARBE- XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

    Yeah and it's not even in that good of shape, body looks good, but the leather is chewed up inside.  Not sure if you have BUY-HERE-PAY-HERES in ON, but it's not from a large dealership, it's from what is called a dirt lot, you make  bi-weekly payments and theres no room for error,  you miss a payment and it's repo,  they love to repo cause they just keep reselling them,  Ed does none of that hates the repo headaches,  but some of the used car dealers here just thrive on it - testosterone I guess- LOL.

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Oh POOOOOOH,  UGH so hard to hang tuff. Woke this AM to a message from Amanda on FB, asking if they could take $15 until Tuesday AM (Bill gets paid Monday at end of shift ) I did not reply,  then my office tele & cell kept ringing and ringing from her,  finally answered it,  played dumb,  she asked for the $15.00,  I said NO ladies,  but it was hard, then she pulled out WELL THEN I GUESS I'LL BE GOING TO JAIL by 2/2 - I said why, she said cause I am going to have to miss another drug class,  this will be #3,   I did not know she had missed any,  asked why she just said BECAUSE -   ugh i HUNG TUFF, BUT i FEEL BAD.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    GOOD FOR YOU CATHI!!! SHE HAS TO LEARN!

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    I don't know why I feel awful then Barbe,  this sucks.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    You feel awful because you know it's right!!!! And you know it is hurting her!!! Tough love ain't easy sister!

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Your all right- THANK YOU- THANK YOU- THANK YOU. A few minutes after my last post she shows up on my door step-  GREAT - face to face combat,  she had Landen & Ellas cloths, she normally returns them after class.  Sge says,  I'll be ok if I wrote a check today and BIll makes a night deposit after work????  I say I have no clue, checks process pretty fast these days, not like the old days when you had several days for a check to clear. But apparently she wrote a check to 711 for gas.  I do know though that Florida does NOT play arond with bad checks, this state is to transient,  they don't take that stuff lightly.

    Just for a moment just for a few days I was feeling optimistic, they were gonna make it, change, do what was right - I mean we all struggle with $$$$$ at some point in life,  but between them they seriously make enough money to be OK, not live high on the hog but OK,  I can't imagine what this wekend pick-up will bring, Amanda doesn't get paid until next week (bi-weekly) so I know they will be broke again - wuith the amount of $$$$$$ they are wasting on crap.

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 3,697
    edited January 2011

    And so it starts, the phone calls for money,just remember if you give in once, she will be conditioned to expect it from  now on.  Make sure the caseworker is aware of it and that she missed classes.  If she missed, thenSIL missed too. Their choice to do so Cathi.  And if it means jail time, although that might be a bluff, that was their choice too.  Then Landen and Ella will be back safe and sound with you.  You feel bad because it is so hard to be so tough, but partof  DD's reality has to be she depends on herself not you for finances.  Be brave.  Karen  Part 2 - she just upped the ante by showing up at your house for a face to face talk.  As far as the upcoming weekend goes, it is possible she"ll skip it, with no food for the household.  Make sure the caseworker is aware of all tthat is going on .

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    I will let CW know espically if they don't keep this weekends visit,  I end the childrens's clothing over, but never any diapers or that stuff, I did send the milk but only because I saw no reason for it to go bad,  but thats the only reason. I didn't give in and I won't, it's just as hard on Ed too,  he's like, well it's only $15,  and he's right it is ONLY $15 , but we both know there is NO WAY they would return it, they never have in the past. WE CAN NOT ENABLE -  REPEATING 1,000,000,000 TIMES . LOL.

    When I get to heaven the first thing I am going to do it tell my parents I AM SORRY for my poor choices in my younger years (not near like this) but for any and all worry, stress I caused them.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    Cathi when you get to heaven you will relax! Your parents already know things you don't so don't worry about it....

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX Barbe-  Well at least this Saturday night I was naughty - NOT LIKE THAT- LOL. I drank 3 HUGE Bloddy Mary's,  let me tell you Ed made them strong and I slept like a rock - 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011
    heehehehehheehe, maybe you WERE naughty and didn't even know it!!! Embarassed
  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited January 2011

    Cathi, I just now saw what you went through this weekend. When my son went for overnight visitations with his 'father' when he was about 12-18 months, I also worried about what he would be eating and drinking. I was totally outraged when he returned saying that he had fed my son a 'honey bun and chocolate soldier drink' for lunch. After that, I would make sure that he had a good meal before went with his dad and a nice bath and good food when he got home. I was fortunate that he didn't pick John up every weekend, only about once every 4 weeks. (the bath was to look for any signs of abuse and I know he didn't get a bath while he was gone.)

    You can stay strong and don't give in. As it was pointed out, please record all incidents of request for aid from them and report it to the social worker. They will end up losing custody again if the incidents are all reported correctly.

    Sheila 

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Thanks Shelia, WOW you must have been going crazy with that worry,  I do give them dinner Friday night before they leave as they get home from school  between 4-4:30PM and get picked up between 6-6:30PM,  The first Friday before they left I gave them baths and had their jammies, then MR Tuff Guy (ED- NOT- LOL)  put a stop to that, giving Landen a bath is easy , Ella is a handful at her age - up and down, up and down,   Ed said they are fine until Mom & Dad get here, you bathe them 4 nights a week most always  - THEY CAN DO IT, anyway I do know they are getting baths and their cloths are all clean and ironned when I send them over.  I am keeping a journal pf all the requests,  I don't feel so bad anymore right now cause I just read a post on FB from Amanda stating how busy and tired she was all weekend " SEEMS LIKE I NEVER GET ENOUGH REST"  Are you kidding me -  Oh I so wish my daughter would wake up. Grow up - what ever

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    Cathi, on her FB post, why don't you just post, "Yep, motherhood IS tough!" or something like that. It will have double meaning to her, but her friends will think you're just supporting her....

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Barbe I actually though about saying something, but wasn't sure what,  and then of coarse there is the whole DCF rues WE MUST ALWAYS BE NICE AND SUPPORTIVE,  they have already told case worker in the past when they visited here - espically SIL HOW UNCOMFORTABLE AND SOMETIMES RUDE WE ARE -  PUKE.  Oh well just another day in my soap opera saga. I have to wonder though if she even went to class,  the post was at about 11AM, her class is from 10-12

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    very interesting! and do you really think DCF thinks you're rude? wouldn't they think it's just mud flinging?

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    No I don't think they believe that Barbe, but I don't trust SIL as far as I could throw him, If he were ever to make a COMPLAINT  against us, they would have to investigate,  it is a slippery slope sometimes for Ed and I,  trust me I would not have had any problems attacking him (so to speak) over some issues,  but we really really can't as long as the children our in our custody and DCF goal is to reunify,  we MUST BE POLITE & RESPECTFUL. While they are ok to insult and roll eyes and be miserable, they only thing we can do is ASK THEM TO LEAVE  -  then contact case worker,  and never address any issues in front of Landen or Ella, and trust me it has been VERY HARD sometimes.

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited January 2011

    You are walking a tight rope there. I should have said that I would put my son in the bath to get rid of the tobacco smoke smell that was on his skin. I would also throw all clothes including the diaper bag into the washing machine when he came home.  I have one set of photos that were taken the evening he returned home, the look on his face was 'Mommy why did you make me leave?' He was always clingy after he returned for at least 24 hours.

    Sheila 

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    AHHHHHHHHH Shelia I know that was years ago - but still makes me wanna cry for you & him.  You done good though MA-MA- XOXOXOXOXOXOXO

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Have been doing some on line reading since Ella & Landen went to bed about togh love, and boy am I an enabler -  BAD- BAD ME.  Found this little tid bit helpful,  printed it and have it on my desk.  I know I have "A" accomplised between my local friends and all of you-  XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

    S.A.N.I.T.Y. Six Steps for Regaining a Healthy Relationship with Adult Children

    S = STOP Enabling, STOP Blaming Yourself, and STOP the Flow of Money
    A = Assemble a Support Group
    N = Nip Excuses in the Bud
    I = Implement Rules/Boundaries
    T = Trust Your Instincts
    Y = Yield Everything to the Higher Power of God (Surrender)

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited January 2011

    That sounds like what we have been trying to tell you. Although we don't want to see our children/grandchildren suffer if we can help it but you do need to let your children stand on their own feet.

    Sheila 

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    You are right Shelia, I am just a big wimp -  gotta get tuffer I guess, I suppose thats part of the reason I stayed in a horrible marriage for 20+ years, and I guess since Amanda saw me always trying to FIX  a man , she thinks she can to, but she knows I never could.  But time to break the cycle, or at least time for me to give it 100%. So glad I have you all  for support.

    XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2011

    Glad you found SANITY Cathi!

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited January 2011

    Found it Barbe- just haven't acheived it yet - LOL

  • karen333
    karen333 Member Posts: 3,697
    edited January 2011

    Cathi, you are doing great, sounds like a very good motto for SANITY.  Karen

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