Is Anyone Doing an Alkaline Approach

Pure-  I don't think Marie Kelly was saying that this diet "doesn't work" or does not have some merit.  I would agree that anyone who claims to have a 100% cure rate of anything (especially ALS) should be scrutinized. Certainly if he is claiming this, he should be transparent with his proof. Claims like that are scientifically improbable.  As for the urine and blood testing, I think your point that they are not the same is exaclty what MK was saying, ie just because your urine tests alkaline does NOT mean your blood is.  I'm very glad you are feeling fantastic and think that this diet is benefiting you.  I may utilize some of its principles as well.  I think it is wise for all of us to not jump hook, line and sinker into things.  I welcome different points of view, including yours. 

Jenn:  I have been drinking it since my diagnosis in September.  I just feel better and it also tastes better then anything else I have tried. 

I just got back from my natural internist who is helping me with the er/pr reduction. He had several things he suggested to me and one being trying to eat more alkaline. He said if nothing else add lemon/limes to my water that I drink. He also upped my green tea intake. So Dr. Young isn't the only one promoting the alkaline theory. He said it had something to do with the inflammation factor. He also gave me a list of food suggestions.

 I haven't been able to find alkaline water - any suggestions?

Where I can get info about Dr. youngs techniques..plz give me links...

Pure,

I just wanted to tell you that since chatting with you on another alkaline thread a few weeks ago, I've bought gallons and gallons of alkaline water at Whole Foods and I'm giving it a go. I had pizza this weekend, so I don't actually feel great yet, but... with the salts I am turning the pH sticks in the 7 range, which makes me feel better.  In time, I'll get my whole diet in line. Besides, once I"m on board, I think an occassional cheat will be fine.

What I wanted to tell you, though... I write training material for a living.  And, Dr. Young's book is one of the most confusing/poorly organized guides I've ever seen!  I just want to know how much water should I drink per day.  Is the Alkaline water out of the bottle good enough, or should I still add the pH drops.  Now that I've bought the chlorophyl, when do I take it?  How offten and how much?  I'd really like a step by step on how to go through a day; what to drink and eat, and when.  After reading most of Dr Young's book, I still came back to your posts to see what to do!  I just thought you might get a kick out of that!!!  The fact is, although drinking alkaline water is easy, the whole diet/way of life can be complicated - at least until you finally alkalize out, and stop worrying about whether or not you're turning that pH stick green!

Anyway, I agree; great thread!  Thanks for starting it!

Sue

I dont think any one wants to jump on any ones case here, that is NOT the reason for this thread, please lets stop the back and forthe, and who said what, can we just continue to talk about getting healthier and keep this thread peacful???

Thank you notself. As you stated, I wasn't attacking anybody - at least not anyone here. My gripe is with people like that Dr.Young person.  In my opinion, and from my experience from working with cancer patients and also in having a disabled, chronically ill friend who spends an enormous amount of money he can't afford to spend buying into every bit of quackery promising help or a cure.  Right now, my friend is playing ping pong with credit card balances just to pay for this stuff. He believes every word of anything and everything promising help that he reads on the internet and all those medical help infomercials. He's spent tens of thousands on these "cures" through the years; diets, books, hydrogen peroxide infusions, stange bottled remedies, hyperbaric oxygen treatments. You name it, he's done it and as he becomes more desperate due to disease progression, he spendseven more and has completely lost his common sense in recognizing that these things are pure nonsense.. And none of it has done a thing for him other than empty his wallet. He's progressively worsening and spends so much time focused on these snake oil cures, he ignores the fact that he can't safely live alone anymore and makes no plans or provisions for the very soon to be eventuality that he will need to be placed somewhere. He thinks he's going to find the cure if he just keeps looking and buying this stuff. They call him on the phone, e-mail him, write to him and convince him to try these products. In my years as a hospital oncology nurse I saw the same thing going on with some patients.

I even saw one of these charletons come to the hospital when I worked Oncology and watched a patient write him a large down payment check for some strange little machine. When he returned a few days later with the contraption wanting a check for the balance, the patients sister (his POA) was there and blocked his access to the patients room This patient died 2 weeks later. I vividly remember another patient dying of cancer who became convinced that huge megadoses of betacarotene would cure him. When he died, his skin was literally the color of a carrot (and no, it wasn't jaundice). I have a deep resentment for those who take advantage of ill, desperate people

As I mentioned in an earlier post. I wouldn't have a problem with Dr. Young, or anyone else who supports a particular diet or wellness program. ANY diet low in prossessed sugars is going to make someone feel better because the blood sugar levels become stabilized instead of shooting up and down in response to variable carbohydrate intake. Diabetics can often come off their medications and sometimes even insulin following high protein diets - I've seen this myself while working part--time in a hospital based clinic that monitored obese people on liquid high protein diet and I'm sure the same is true for this alkaline diet.  But the truth about health and wellness is not to go off the deep end into one thing or another stringently. Moderation is the key to everything.

Girls, there is a video that explains the acid/alkaline thing very simply and understandably. It touches on blood vs. urine pH and why urine pH indicates how hard your body is having to work to maintain normal blood alkalinity, and a lot of other things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpoAtwVyzZI

Although the title of this video is "how diet soda causes weight gain," it actually covers everything we've been talking about in this thread. Definitey worth a watch.

MarieKelly, I appreciate your cynical approach and believe it or not, I'm very skeptical when it comes to these things too. I don't go for snake-oil treatments because it supposedly cured someone's brother's mail carrier from cancer. I am so sorry your friend is spending so much money on snake-oil "cures."

The acid/alkalkaline theory, though, has science behind it. I don't know anything about Dr. Young and can't speak for him... maybe he's a quack, and maybe he's out to make a fortune, but the fact is the acid/alkaline thing is not quackery.

You mentioned how urine pH has nothing to do with anything... alkaline urine is not the GOAL in and of itself -- rather, it's an INDICATOR. One of the body's mechanisms for ensuring blood pH remains in its normal (slightly alkaline) range is, if the body is assaulting by acidifying factors, by having the kidneys put off higher than usual acidity, leading to more acidic urine. That's why too-acidic urine is an INDICATOR that too many acidifying factors have caused your body to work too hard to maintain normal blood pH.

Anyway, you don't need expensive equipment, supplements, or whatever to follow this theory. As Pure mentioned, just adding lemon or lime to the water you drink will cause it to have an alkalizing effect... between that and eating from the alkalizing food list and engaging in alkalizing lifestyle habits, I suspect that's all we need.

crunchy, great video worth watching every one and yes i was happy to see tomotes on there too, since i have been on a diet i started 2 months ago i gave up all sugars and my pepsi i was a pepsiholic i drank pepsi before i even got out of bed after 2 weeks i didnt even crave it anymore, but have been drinking unsweetened ice tea sadly the caffiene is bad too now i will have to go on a hunt for a ice tea with no sugar and uncaffenated too- any good ones out there???

crunchy- thanks for the video.  Nothin' like youtube!  Last time I figured out how to use a toilet snake from youtube!  I can't speak to whether or not Dr. Young is this or that, but as many of us have said, SO many of the "new" healthier diet aproaches have common factors.  I am all for just heading in a healthier direction.  We eat very healthily, only whole grains, loads of veggies and fruits, a little hormone free chicken, no red meat.  My weak spot is dairy, not that I eat tons.  I just can't imagine giving up my coffee with cream (only once a day!). Is there any cheese that is healthier?  What about goat cheese?  I am thrilled tomatoes are on the good list!  I am off to make my favorite Mexican "garbage salad" for dinner, loaded with great leftovers:  romain, cooked spicy ground turkey, black beans, avocado, peach salsa!

debbie- Have you tried some of the flavored green teas?  I love the Mighty Leaf brand from Whole Foods mightyleaf.com.  I take a big Mason jar and make the Peach green tea, always have it in the fridge.  I heard that drinking only 2 small cups of green tea a day can reduce BC by 50% (Dr. Oz) .

Here's to getting healthy together!

Uh...about this "Dr." Young.  Has anybody checked out his education credentials?  Here's the status of the institutions of his "higher learning" as listed on his website: 

- Bradford Research Institute does not exist.   Dr. Bradford is currently under federal indictment for fraud related to health care claims.  Capital University, where he supposedly works, closed in 2006.  It was unaccredited.  

- Clayton College of Natural Health, the source of Dr. Young's PhD,  has never received educational accreditation by any agency recognized by the U.S. Department of Education or the Council for Higher Education Accreditation.  Several state education departments specifically list Clayton College as unaccredited. Clayton College ceased operations this year.

- The American College, the source of Dr. Young's MS,  is Clayton College under an earlier name.

So except for the University of Utah..this "Dr" Young basically has no graduate education from an accredited university.  And it is unclear whether he even has an undergraduate degree from the U of Utah.

 I'd be very careful ladies.....

Patty

patty- thinks for the information, i think the point we are learning here is that it is a healthy diet no matter what is going on with dr. young, i was talking to my dad about him today and i said, you know what dad even if he was some kind of con artist (which i dont believe) but if he was, he has done some good if it gets people to eat healthier and make healthier choices then its ok you dont have to have a degree to do that

in-cognito ~ I'm with you.  I take bits and pieces and am trying to make some positive changes.  I was reminded by a very wise woman, it's best to  make dietary changes 25% at a time.  In other words, don't go off the deep end or go full out, because chances are you won't stick to them.  I love juicing!  Can't answer your question about the calories though.

MBJ ~ do you own your Kangen filter system?  My friend offered to bring me a few bottles at a time and I had a few glasses this a.m.   It is darn good!  I wish it wasn't so pricey!  I might get some 3 gallon glass containers and just mooch off her for a while.  Thanks for sharing the website - checked it out and will look at it some more.  I LOVE hearing what others do on their paths to wholeness and health.  

Pure ~ thanks for starting this thread!   ~   Daiva