November 2009-Starting Chemo

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  • doronet
    doronet Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2010

    Re: hair regrowth - I was told  by my onc PA prior to Taxol TX's  that if my hair hadn't all fallen out with the A/C, it would with the Taxol.  (Not encouraging.)  It did not fall out with the Taxol, though.  It did start growing as fuzz about 2 weeks after Taxol was done.  I thought it was all going to come in white because that's all I saw at first, but now there is dark hair showing, so we'll see.  The hairs are just now long enough to pinch between my fingers. 

    Up until now, I hadn't understood why some Warriors have been nervous about rad; however, mine starts tomorrow and I have the jitters.  Don't know if it's just the idea of the next phase starting or what.  Maybe it's that I know I'll get the 3 tattoos before the session.  My rad dr. said she understood my fear of needles and that the techs will work with me with the EMLA cream.  At least the final countdown will begin.  Thanks to Michele for the heads-up on the male rad tech vs female and the compassionate perception of the females to cover her up when possible...I know I'll have some male techs and now, I'll be prepared to ask them to cover me up if necessary.

    Had the port removed last Weds and the incision is still uncomfortable. Took a ton of Ativan before going and had my music and earphones, which helped. Told the dr. I didn't want to know what she was doing, ie don't narrate as she went.  Found out afterwords that she had to give me a 2nd shot of novac. because scar tissue had started forming around the port and it was harder for her to get the port out.  Guess having it out will be more "real" when it stops hurting and the band-aid and steristrip are gone.

    BrendaShar:  I almost cried when I read your post.  Don't we all feel that way??!!  I have read that the rad. can cause a deep fatigue that is not the tired-type, but a "depression-type" fatigue.  After 3 rads, that might be compounding what you were already feeling. You're still our Warrior Leader and we're there for you. 

    Wishing no lymphedema on any body parts, to include butts, today.   Nette

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2010

    Brenda,

    Just came home from my radiation planning session. I didn't even feel the tats. I actually asked the guy if he'd done them yet!! Looks like I'll be lying on my back after all. The onc checked me out and decided it would be fine.

    Sue

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2010

    Sue,

    Maybe I'll just have to get tatted then~~~

    Doronette,

    Hey,like you however I'm a chicken!  I'm terrified to get my port out. No one has mentioned when I will even get that done. I want it out but too scared to get it done. I don't even know whyit is still in now! BUT, I won't be the one to say hurry up.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2010

    Brenda,

    A friend asked me how many tats I got. I don't know, I haven't looked. I've still got green felt pen marks until I shower this morning. I might have felt one tiny prick, but that was it. It certainly didn't hurt. Then again, maybe the guy was really good at what he does. They were all really nice.

    How are you managing with all the driving there and back?

    I  am not looking forward to tomorrow even though it's the last chemo. I am looking forward to taking the steroids this morning as it fixes up my aching knees.

    Hugs to all still having chemo.

    Sue

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2010

    Hey Sue,

    So far I've had 5 rad TX's. A little sensitive but OK other wise. With each Tx I notice I'm a little bit more of a burning sensation (inside) each time. I'm also still just a little depressed and don't know why! The drive is one big pain but I'm dealing with it. I had requested tats and they have said we will do them tomorrow and then tomorrow they don't do it. I'm usually so ready to go I don't push the envelope to get them done. Hope all your aches stay to a minimum.

    So many close to the end of this journey :-) I am so happy for all of us~~~ So, I need to get my head back up high and out of my a$$ and be proud for we have done so well  !!!!!  congrats to every single Warrior ~~ to a job well done ~~~

    (((((((HUGS))))))))) Love to all

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2010

    Brenda,

    I finally got the green pen off and have found 3 tats. There might be 1 more but I can't see it. I'll ask them where they are when I start. Hope you don't feel them but it's got to be better than permanent marker and should save them some time.

    Didn't sleep well at all thanks to the steroids as usual. I'll be glad when today is over.

    I bought myself a new watch yesterday as a finishing chemo reward.

     SharaD - where are you? Also KayH - we haven't heard from you for ages - hope you're both OK.

    Sue

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2010

    Well girls - I'm done!!! Can't say I'm over the moon owing to the next week or so of SE's but as the nurse unhooked the taxtotere I said hooray that's over - did the same when she unhooked the carboplatin.

    I was putting on the emla cream this morning thinking it's the last time I'll use it but chemo brain suddenly realised I have the rest of the year to go with the herceptin. What a dolt.

    I hope all of you ladies who are still having chemo make it through ok. I'll keep a watch on this thread anyway. I feel like I know you all even though we are on opposite sides of the world. Thankyou for your support and friendship.

    I started an April Rads thread the other day even though it's a bit early. Hope to see some of you there.

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited March 2010
    Congrats Suepen!! another monkey over the wall!
  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2010

    Sue,

    As Melinda says, CONGRATS another monkey over the wall. I know you have to swinging on happiness. Funny, even though we know we will have s/e for a bit it is good just to be done with our treatments of A/C~~~~!!!!!

    I myself still don't have tats. They keep saying tomorrow. BUT, my techs are right on time and very efficient with their therapy, so I really don't care, except the marks are VERY noticeable with the magic marker all over my boobs. BUT, I can say that I'm in and out including checking in and undressing within 15 min. Out of 5 days a week, I am scheduled 5 days for Rads TX, takes only 15 min. total! Then after 5 days,  I see my Rads Onc. which this then takes an X-tra 10-15 min. depending on how much I talk to my Rads ONC, she is soooo sweet!!! Then the day after that is the weekly X-Ray, which only takes about 3-5 min more at the most.  

    AGAIN Congrats Sue!!!!!   Kiss

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2010

    Congratulations SUE !  And just remember this will be the last time you feel those SE's.

    :)
    Alicia

  • mommy2two
    mommy2two Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2010

    Sue - Congratulations!

    Just dropping in this morning to say hello to my fellow warriors, I hope you are all doing well.  I had strep throat and an ear infection last week and have been on antibiotics for seven days.  I am much worse now that I was last week and now its moved down into my chest so I'm headed back to my dumb ass primary care doc today to see what brilliant ideas he has now.

    Brenda- You don't think the magic marker all over your boob looks pretty?  LOL, I'm so sick of them drawing on me.  Friday, I get my markings redone in order to start my 8 boost on Monday.  10 more tx and I'm done with rads...not looking forward to starting Tamoxifen.

    Hope you all have a good SE free day!

  • BrendaSharon
    BrendaSharon Member Posts: 506
    edited March 2010

    Toyah,

     Good to hear from you. So, you are down to 10 rads? FANTASTIC !!!

    I was curious, how have they been going for you? I was wndering if I'm the only one to feel burning within the first few tx's. By #3 rad I could feel me frying from the inside out. doesn't really hurt yet, but i can feel the heat. Is there anything else I can expect? You are the leader in the rads for us "Warriors", so let me know something.

    Yes, I call my boobs with all the drawings,

    "My roadmap to recovery, the end of my journey"   Wink Yippie I Yeah~!!!!~~~~~~~~for sure

    galloping all the way down the road. I'm out of here soon~~~~~~~~

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited March 2010

    SUE. YAHOO...one more step done..like Alicia said this will be your last time to go through the SEs...my last was easier than the two before it..go figure.  MY doc said it would be the worst.

    Brenda, I like the idea of it being the road to recovery...Sounds quit fast for you.  mine is fast but they are often running late.  It is a busy place. I take a good magazine selection with me and a snack if I get hungry.  I have so many magazines that I have kept for the past two years, so I reread them and leave them there for others to read..It is like I am doing my spring cleaning, getting rid of them..So in fact I am busy, right?

    Still not much hair.  Just little chick fuzz.  At least I don't have to shave my pits, like I am allowed.  The down-there-hair is not there as well.  Can't say I miss it.

    gotta go and get ready to be fried.

  • mommy2two
    mommy2two Member Posts: 130
    edited March 2010
    Brenda- The tx's are going okay, heat and a little burning but nothing I can't tolerate.  I'm even still wearing my underwire bra with no issues.  No, you aren't the only one to feel the burn within the first few tx's.  I did and was told that smokers and ex-smokers tend to burn faster because their skin doesn't have good circulation from smoking.  I did burn quick but like I said, it isn't too bothersome.  I think you will make it through it fine, just like a warrior!  Laughing
  • SharaD
    SharaD Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2010

    HI Suepen!   And all you other lovely, couragious warriors!

    I'm still alive and kickin!.....and living at the no-tell motel!  Long story short my adult son got chickenpox, and I had to move out so that i don't get the shingles....egads!  Of course my son was already to move out himself but the doc said no, our place was already contaminated so I ended up here in room 201, right across from some serial killer who goes out all night and stays in all day.  (I have nicknames for all the guests on my floor.....the serial killer, the prostitute, the Amway salesman and the Cougar ...to name just a few.) 

     So, if I am holed up in a lonely motel, why aren't I down in the dumps you ask????  Because my Taxol is DONE and my tumor has vanished!  Disappeared!  Ka-putt!   I swept the floor with that sucker and he ain't comin' back, I can assure you that!  Woo-Hoo!   I'm headed for lumpectomy now instead of mastectomy and I ain't cryin' about it, either.

    Now if I am so high on life right now, why have I not been here to support you all, you ask??? Well, complications are keeping me busy.   I am on some heart medications and my cardiologist won't let me stop all of them for surgery.  I must at least keep taking aspirin to keep my blood thin.  But the surgeon disagrees and dammit they are at a standstill.   So now I have to knock down doors at other hospitals and try to find a surgeon who will agree to my cardiologists demands.  At the same time I am about to start Herceptin which can be tough on the ol' ticker.  So, lots of research, lots of phone calls, and lots of trips to the motel front desk to chat with the manager because he is SUCH a hunk. Cutie Patootie.     I am trying to figure out which one of my scarves he likes the best and I am shaking my maraccas for him while I still got two to shake.  Kinda hard to flaunt my cleavage with this damn port still making life miserable but you can't blame a girl for trying! 

    Hoping for Grandma Mickey to have as great a result from the Taxol as Shara did, and hoping for everyone else going through this hell to soon see a big bright light at the end of your rainbows as well.  Sealed

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited March 2010

    Shara, good to see you back..keep shaking those maraccas...I onlyhave one and it swings like a pendulum...not so sexy.

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2010

    SharaD !  so glad to hear from you and glad to see you in such good spirits.  Enjoy the hunky cutie at the motel front desk.  So glad to hear your tumor is next to gone.  WOO HOO.

    Michele ~ too funny about your pendulum.  Where my boobs used to be is like 2 turtle shells under my skin.  Hoping for softer foobies next week.

    HUGS !

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2010

    Glad to see you're not lost to us SharaD. I'm so glad they can do a lumpectomy on you now - it's fantastic!!!

     Thanks for all of your posts. I'm off shopping today before the steroids wear off - new dining chairs!!!

    We're going away for a week after I'm better - back to the beach where we went at Xmas. The sea air will be so good!!

    Hugs to you all - I love all of you!!!

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited March 2010

    Met with the Breast Cancer chick at the YMCA. She will help me coordinate with a nutritionist and start me on an exercise program. She said I appear to have truncal lymphedema but my arm looks OK. She referred me to a specialist and I will try to get something started with her. So my "fat back" on the mastectomy side is lymphemdema, not just fat. Sadly, she did not diagnose me with ass lymphedema.

    4 T/H down, 8 to go. Right eye is swollen shut and right nostril keeps dripping, I look mahhh-voulous.

  • doronet
    doronet Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2010

    Melinda:  what's with the swollen eye?  A weird SE?  Drippy nose is understandable.  I must look up "truncal lymphedema, though one would assume it is lym. of the "trunk" of the body.  Wonder why the fluid would collect there?

    SharaD:  WELCOME BACK!!  And the "no tumor" status??!! OMGosh!!!!!  Stupendous news!!  Sorry about the hotel stay, but guess the front desk hunk makes it better. 

     I have my 4th rad session today.  No problems so far.  Will meet with the rad onc today after the session to have our first meet since rad started.  Seems I'll be meeting with her every 4-5 sessions. 

    Re: the rad "sunburn" - Nurse there told me prior to rad TX to use Aquaphor cream or pure Aloe Vera after every session to keep skin healthy.  I ran into an acquaintance yesterday who had rad 8 years ago and she said by the end of rad, her breast was raw.  (I came home and immediately put Aloe V. on mine!!) 

    Port incision is much better now.  I don't even have any band aid on it.  It's weird that it's flat there, though it is still a little tender.

    Re: 5 year maintenance drug:  I'll be on Arimidex starting in May.  And sometime between now and the end of April, I need to get: a breast MRI, a comprehensive mammogram, a follow-up appt. with the breast surgeon, a fasting cholesterol test (I've been doing that for 2 years, and am overdue one), a dental appt. (also overdue) and continue with the daily rad.   Frown

    I never had "pendulums," so there was never anything to swing.  Nette

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2010

    Sue ~ hope you are feeling okay.  Glad you are going to the beach when you feel good !! 

    Melinda ~ sorry to hear about your eye and nose.  Hope that gets better real soon for you.  Trunk lymphedema huh?!  I think I have whole body lymphedema.  Although at my onco appt yesterday I did lose 3 lbs.  Not much when I have about 30 to go off of ME !

    Nettie ~  take good care of that skin.  Although a burn may be inevitable hopefully it won't happen to you.  I am with you on all of the appts to do and I am dragging my feet on all of them.  I have my surgery next week after that I'll get going when I feel better 'again'.  I have to see the gyno, dentist and start tamoxifen 2 weeks after surgery.  My big pendulums are gone, and I will be getting SHAM-ROCKS next week.  LOL  (Micheleboots line)  :)

    Good day to all you lovelies.

    :)
    Alicia

  • mabelle
    mabelle Member Posts: 80
    edited March 2010

    Hi all - sorry its been a while... I keep reading, but just haven't posted. No excuses - except that I've been feeling good so haven't had much to contribute.

    I had my onc appt on tues. I told her about the excruciating pain I had after my first taxol. She agreed with me that that was unacceptable, so is putting me on weekly doses instead of every three weeks. She says it is much more tolerable that way. I asked why that was't the protocol from the beginning - basically, it all comes down to cost. Its far less to have only one blood test, and one chemo session, than 3. It makes me angry... but at the same time hopeful that this time around won't be nearly as bad. My wbc count was quite low still, (onc had taken me off the nupagen in hopes that I wouldn't need it anymore - but was wrong) She said because I was getting the lower dose of Taxol - that I should be fine - so no more needles, at least for one more week. We'll see how it goes next week.

    Brenda - if you get a chance, my new schedule is:  TH - March 10 (done), T - March 17, March 24, TH - March 31, T - April 7, April 14, TH - April 21, T - April 28, May 5    (not a big deal if it doesn't get changed)

    Congrats to everyone who has finished chemo... have to say I'm jealous, but happy for you!

    Good luck to all those receiving rads - keep smearing on that goop to stay silky smooth!

    Alicia - good luck with your exchange surgery. I can't tell you how much I wish I were in your shoes. These rocks are still driving me crazy even after 6 1/2 months with them. But it'll all happen in time. 

    Shar - great to hear from you! Enjoy your time away from home while you can. I know no-tell motel isn't exactly a vacation ... but I'd give anything to get away from cooking, cleaning, husband, and kids - just for a few days.

    Take care everyone! : ) 

  • micheleboots
    micheleboots Member Posts: 1,993
    edited March 2010

    Mabell.  Good to see ou again..

    Just doing a drive by today...just got back from my 16/25 rads...9 more to go..it is just a little pink, and not giving me any trouble.  Knocking on wood as I type.

  • RedheadPam
    RedheadPam Member Posts: 98
    edited March 2010

    Hello, Ladies!  Welcome to all the monkeys on this side of the wall -- time for drinks!

    Brenda -I love the "roadmap to recovery". My markings totally looked like a map...I am so glad to have them gone.  The last ones faded away a few days after my last tx - yay!

    Shara - CONGRATS on the great news!!!! You kicked that tumor's ass!  Maybe you'll come away from the seedy motel with a great mystery novel ready to write. Sounds like you already have the characters...

    Saw my onc today, and I have in my hand the first of my Tamoxifen.  He said he'd like for me to be on that for 2 years, then we'll switch to an aromitase inhibitor.  Easier on the bones,  fewer SEs, apparently. Even though I had a hysterectomy a year before my BC diagnosis, he'd rather try that first. He's also setting me up with an appointment for the nutritionist to start working on my diet -- I'm past ass lyphedema and on to suffering from full-on fatassitis.

    It's been 10 days since my last rads, and except for a big pink circle where my boosts were, my skin is almost totally back to normal.  It sounds crazy, but I swear the green tea spray my rads onc had me use worked some kind of magic to keep away any major burns. 

    Wishing no SEs and soft foobies for all!

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited March 2010

    Just dropping by to provide an information page about truncal lymphedema here:

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/breast_chest_trunckal_lymphedema.htm

    Truncal lymphedema can affect the chest, breast, reconstructed breast, side, or back -- on the side of the body where surgery and/or radiation was performed. Like arm lymphedema, it is caused by damage to the lymph nodes in the axilla, or by damage to the lymph vessels in the area and blockage of lymph flow by scar tissue or fibrosis. It's actually fairly common, especially in the breast following lumpectomy with SNB and rads, but doctors are slow to recognize or diagnose it, and often they don't know it can be treated by well-qualified lymphedema therapists. The reason it can occur in the chest/breast as well as the arm is because the lymph vessels of that entire quadrant of our bodies drains into the nodes in the axilla, so when the nodes there are disturbed it can affect the entire quadrant. 

    Bummer!Frown

    At any rate, it really can be reduced and controlled, but the sooner it's treated the easier it is to do that. Here's a page about finding a well-trained lymphedema therapist near you:
    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/Finding_a_Qualified_Lymphedema_Therapist.htm

    That was probably more than you wanted to know, Nette -- sorry!Embarassed

    Be well, all!
    Binney

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited March 2010

    Binney: Thanks for the info, I have been reading on the Lymphedema threads and you seem to be the resident expert.

    reagrding my eye, I had to go to the ER today, turns out I had scratched my cornea. Surprisingly painful.... Plus, I have caught the intestinal bug but Onc said I can take up to 12 Immodium a day (chemo perk).

    Two completely unrelated bummers....

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited March 2010

    Nausea, vomiting and my eyeball hurts! I did call the Onc nurse and she said I could take the pain pills for my eye along with the nausea pills. I was worried about taking to many things that cause drowsiness at the same time. It would suck to have cancer but die from overmedicating for a stomach virus and cornea scratch.

    I am pitiful...

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited March 2010

    NO you are not pitiful Melinda...  I hope you feel better.   Take your meds ~

    Healing hugs ~

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2010

    Melinda: Hope your eye gets better - ouch!!! and your tummy. HUGS!!!!

    I am so glad that last chemo is over but am suffering right now - really bad wind pain!!! I took heaps of sennacot but to no avail so far - ouch!!!

     Bought the new dining chairs (red leather) on Thursday and found a new lounge suite. Poor DH has been badgered ever since. He said 'Wait until the steroids wear off'. But they have a buy 2 get one free deal, so if I buy a 3 seater and 2 single arm chairs, I get a $600 arm chair for free!!! How could anyone pass that up. But no, our lounge is 34 years old and still good according to him even though the vinyl is cracked all over. Maybe I should get SharaD to call him and tell him how to behave.

    On another note, I weighed myself yesterday and have succeeded in keeping off 10lbs that I lost over the shock of this whole crazy thing. WOW. I think it's because I've gone off chocolate lately.

    Sue

  • kayh
    kayh Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2010

    Just a quick check in. I have now finished 8 of 12 weekly Taxol. Gets a bit worse each time. Don't get off the bed much.

    Onc Dr  says my body can't take chemo. Not my fault, just happens some times. She says she is keeping an eye on things as her first priority IS TO DO NO HARM.

    Doesn't sound encouraging but I'm taking it one week at a time and only four more to go.

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