Starting Chemo April 2009
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Hi to all my "best friends"
I'm not going to stay on long, but if I don't get the courage to write this tonight, I may not write it at all.
I am very depressed, and it is scaring me - not suicidal or anything, just so very low - most sad I've been.
I went to the plastic surgeon for my fill Wednesday, and after I had told him two weeks ago that I hadn't seen a change with the saline in the past three fills, he gave me all these reasons why I might not - ok, I bought it and went back this week and he tells me I have a "slow leak" in the expander...duh...told you that. Then he was so nice he rubbed my back, gave me a hug, and a tissue and said, "I know you're disappointed, but it's only a small set-back and it'll be ok. Started me crying, not because of the leak, but just because. He then said he has to hurry and expand me so that the tissue doesn't encapsulate and he put 180 cc in (usually take 60cc) Boy, that hurt!
Well, thanks for letting me vent and get my sadness out.
Geri
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Oh Wait - I forgot to tell you, I have a huge rash under my nostrils and beneath my lower lip - cause unknown, but I can relate to Lena about not wanting to be seen in public (even less so in private) My Poor boyfriend doesn't deserve to have to be seen with me! And I just looked in the magnifying mirror because my eyelids are itcy and behind door #1 - NO EYELASHES...AGAIN!!!! Last Chemo was weekly Taxol x 12 ended mid September - 5 months and one week PFC!! HAD A/C/T and now Herceptin alone - lost eyelashes/eyebrows end of September, came back quickly, but this is just too much (I'm amazed how self-centered I am since my dx - was never like that)
Geri
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Geri - It's ok to feel sad...you've been through hell and back and now another set back. Sending you a big cyber {{{HUG}}}. I've heard, it didn't happen to me, that it is not unusual to lose your eyelashes again at about 4 mos. PFC. Hang in there...girl.
It's not surprising how self-centered we've all become, dx, surgery, chemo, rads, reconstruction, complications, etc has done us in. We are in mourning for our old lives and bodies. Thank you for typing it, I thought I was the only one feeling totally self absorbed. I'm still struggling with my wavy hair. Who I see in the mirror...is not the person I was before this all started. I feel like I'm lugging a flat tire around my middle, my hair still looks totally old ladyish, none of my clothes fit...I'm hauling out my fat girl wardrobe. On and on...it just sucks. There I go again...all about ME.
Just remember...you are not alone. We are walking right beside you.
Betsy
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Thamk you for the encouragement, Betsy. I feel even worse today, and gave my boyfriend an excuse why I couldn't see him tonight, so I punished him for how I feel by depriving him of getting out ....he was probably relieved! Oh, I am so negative.
Like I said, not like me pre bc days.
Geri
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Geri,
My dh and I talked after I responded to your post. It was good to explain to him how I have been feeling. In our conversation he made a comment that I thought I'd share about how depression can be due to a loss of control in our lives. He said sometimes we can only take control, little by little. So be gentle with yourself. You've had a set back, but you are strong and you will get through this. Hang in there girl.
Betsy
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Geri - I am so sorry to hear that you are feeling sad, it happens to us all and it is ok. However understanding our loved ones are, there is a limit to how much they can really understand. My lashes started to fall out at around 5 months pfc and it was like being knocked down by a truck but they stopped and then grew in again. I think it will all pass, but I don't suppose we will ever go back to how we were before and like Betsy says, we are in mourning for our past lives.
I am finding things very hard this week, I had my bilat mastectomy with failed reconstruction on 4th March last year and I am finding this week so traumatic. Just the small signs of Spring in the air are bringing back a time that I would rather forget. I was ok during the winter, but now I am finding it harder.
Betsy - I hope that you start getting back on track very soon.
Helen - I am so sorry to hear about your DIL's mother - ditto Betsy, life is just not fair.
Hugs to you all and thank you for always being here...
Judy xoxox
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This is a hard time for all of us for so many reasons. We all have our own stories, dates, and important markers along the way and a lot of them are in this season. I think we have to be generous with ourselves and give ourselves a lot of grace and room to process whatever emotions come up. There is no right/wrong way to do this. The only thing is to get through the best we can.
My 'cancerversay' is on Tuesday and I am taking Judy's advice and taking the day off and going to the Philadelphia Flower Show with my beloved SIL. We had it planned last year but I had just been dx and was way too much of a wreck to go. So this year I am reclaiming it and am going to have a good time. But maybe I will shed a tear or two - who knows. And if I do - it is OKAY!
Across the miles, we have to give one another support and a virtual hug. I truly believe you cannot know what tihs feels like unless you have been through it - and all of you have. That is why we are sisters bonded by this common experience and are so dear to one another.
You are all in my thoughts and my heart during this challenging time. But I just have to say - as much as it all has SUCKED--- LOOK HOW FAR WE HAVE COME!
Sometimes it amazes me.Love to all!
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Thank you all for reminding me to be patient with myself and allow some of those unwelcome emotions to come to the surface and deal with them in a healthier way than to just stuff them away.
Betsy, your husband is right in my case. I do feel as though I have lost control over many things in my life since the diagnosis. However, when I take the time to reflect on the past year, I realize I have also regained (or maybe just gained) a perspective on what I want to be important in my life. There are some positive things that come from this experience.
Judy, my mastectomy was March 10th, and I can feel my level of anxiety go up as the date gets closer. I suppose that is normal and will diminish in time, but this is a "first" anniversary, and as you , Betsy and Amy have reminded me, I need to be good to myself right now.
So, thank you all for the understanding and Amy, the virtual <<<hugs>>> from all of you mean more than anything when I'm feeling down.
Geri
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Good to hear from you Geri and Amy.Let's all be good to ourselves...
Hugs to you all, Judy xxx
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Hi, ladies. I agree - we are all going through various stages of minor depression and up periods - I think as we all get closer to and pass our milestones, the anticipation / memory / trauma of it all starts to mess with our brains. I have passed the 1 year mark with the dx, and surgery, and I was anxious about it, and the follow up with the bs, but once I was finished, it was a little bit of a relief, and a little bit of "now what happens?". I have been dealing with hives for the last 6 weeks - first on the back of my head (shades of the chemo rash) and then something else under the bc breast (both of these are cleared up) and now full-body hives. My derm did a biopsy of one crop of them and it came back as a drug allergy. Well, the only prescription drug I am on besides the priolsec I've been taking for years is TAMOXIFEN. I cannot believe that I could be allergic to the thing that will help prevent recurrence!!!! Both my onc and derm told me to stop taking it, which I have stopped for 8 days now and am still breaking out in full body hives. I am on 3 different antihistamines, and am finishing up a course of prednisone and follow up with the derm again tomorrow and the onc next week to see what my options are. Calahist lotion is my best friend and I can't get near my dh, because I am so flipping itchy! Everywhere on my body, I have patches of hives - neck, chest, under arms, back, legs - I have bruises on my arms and legs from the intense scratching - very attractive! I don't know if it is the filler in the tamox or the tamox itself - but this does suck the big one, because I will not go on an AI at all - I absolutely refuse to rob my body of any estrogen it makes, which must be miniscule because my ovaries have been out for over 10 years already. Geez, this crap never stops, does it?
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Chelev - hope you are feeling better and the discomfort eases up for you soon!
Hugs to all, Judy x
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Oh no, Geri and Chelev! :-*(
Geri, you too? I think something's in the air or something when it comes to feeling like emotional crap of late. Cancerversaries maybe, now that that idea comes up again? (Toldja all way back I didn't think THOSE merited celebrations-Hahaha but yeah, true, I just passed my "You have IBC" and "It's Stage IV" anniversaries which I did NOT "celebrate")....see I've been REALLY upset (sometimes melancholy/depressed, other times angry) for the past few weeks myself too Geri, and yesterday when my former chemo nurse popped into the exam room while I was waiting for the oncologist, she said hi and asked how I was doing, my response was to immediately just totally and completely "lose it." I'm telling you, I actually went on a screaming semi-profane almost busted-into-tears TIRADE about how sorry I was I let myself get talked into treatment and wished I had just listened to myself in the first place and just let myself die of my BC because I HATE the time I bought myself by doing chemo -- I was saying "If I hadn't done it I'd just be dead by now wouldn't I?" and how I turned into the stupid horrible hideous Creature who I HATE and how the person I used to be freakin' died and, well, you get the idea. She says, "You're very angry," but says it's OK, she understands and sits down/talks with me while. Did it make me feel better? Ehhhhh, Temporarily maybe. It calmed me down a little but all the reasons for me to BE upset are still with me. I am STILL sorry I went through treatment and I wish I WAS literally dead/had something to make me dead quick and painless. I'm still not the person I used to be, I still hate what I became, I'm still hideous and so on -- so nothing has changed. Except of course now we can add the broken coccyx (from when I fell down the stairs a couple weeks ago) and the mysterious blood clot. The onc still doesn't know why I have the blood clot: says it COULD be the cancer, or it COULD have been the Tamoxifen, or it COULD even be something else but I'm off all prescription meds for now and he wants to see me in a couple weeks (for what, I dunno. Maybe to find out if he has a clue?). He had more blood taken. Next appointment is 3.15.10. Oooh, idea! :-) Maybe a nice piece of that clot'll break off, escape from my spleen and kill me fast and easy with a nice stroke in the brain stem this time I hope just like that former co-worker's husband...
Chelev -- OMG OUCH, those hives sound awful!! :-O And you know what, I'm beginning to wonder also how long it takes Tamoxifen SEs to go away -- I stopped taking my Tamoxifen as per my onc last week but I'm still having those horrible hot flashes! I didn't get hives (well not from meds anyway), so I don't think I'm allergic to it (unless blood clots are some weird new sign of allergies I didn't know about), but, I stopped taking it too and am wondering if maybe I'll go back to "normal" except my cancer will go out of control. Well let us know when the hives start to abate and you feel better -- I hope that's soon.
~Lena.
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Wow, so many feelings we are all venting.
Chelev - I'm so sorry you are suffering with this rash. It sounds awful and painful and i will send you a <<<hug>>> with no skin contact, so as not to make it more uncomfortable for you! I hope they can get you back on the Tamoxifen, for your peace of mind.
Lena - you give so much to this group, and we would have missed all of that if you had decided against treatment and did not survive to be amongst all of us who really value your presence. Stay with us, and keep us smiling at your outrageous Pack Rat stories!
Tomorrow I meet with the ps and bs and find out what we do about my leaking foob.
We all found this site for a reason, and I know the reason I found it was to have a group of woman who could keep me grounded when things get tough - thank you all
Geri
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Hi all, how are you all doing today?
Lena, I agree with Geri, you are so important to all of us! Keep your postings coming!
Chelev - how are you feeling today?
I am not having such a good day today. Feel down and impatient with everyone around me.
I feel that I need some time to myself, but just don't seem to find the time.
Hope everyone has a good evening, hugs to you all, Judy xoxox
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Well, yesterday was my cancerversary. As instructed by Judy, I took the day off (well half a day really) and went with my sister in law to the Philadelphia Flower Show. It was SO BEAUTIFUL. We had a wonderful time looking at all the exhibits (and a bit of shopping at the amazing vendors). It was a great day, very non cancer!
But then as i was getting ready for bed, actually lying there ready to turn off the light, to my total surprise, I began to remember IN EXACT DETAIL the feelings of having surgery. I haven't thought in detail about that since it happened, I don't think. It wasn't just like remembering the facts of what happened; I actually felt all the emotions - the fear, the pain, the sorrow, but mostly the FEAR. I just lay there not even sure if I wanted to say it out loud to my husband. Finally, I said that I was really thinking a lot about the surgery. He listened a little (and I cried a little) and then said that I was tired and should lay it down and just go to sleep, which I did.
I guess we process things in our heart/mind's own time. I had no idea that would happen. Today I feel totally fine again.
AND - I colored the grey in my hair tonight again. I have been using half a bottle of color so I can get 2 treatments out of one purchase. But this time, 1/2 a bottle was only barely enough to cover all my hair. PROGRESS!
Lena - I am sorry you are so down. I totally agree, the reasons for your emotions are still there. But sometimes it seems that the reality submerges for a while from our consciousness and doesn't seem so central to our thoughts. And then at other times it emerges and is all we can think about or see. I hope for you these elements go back into hibernation (even though the situation doesn't actually change) and you can have some rest and peace of heart. I echo Geri and everyone else in our group in how much you are loved and treasured as part of us.
Amy
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I'm sorry to hear that so many are feeling down. I wish I could say that I was better but I'm also in a lousy space. Like others have said, I wish I was the person I used to be before all this SFBC.
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Hi all, today is a year since my surgery and I am finding it hard. I am feeling low and very very tired indeed. I have cried a little this morning too. My stress levels are so high at the moment, I am not easy to live with right now.
I am so happy to have you all here to share this with. I hope that our moods all pick up very soon.
Hugs to all, Judy x
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HUGS to you Judy - and everyone else who is feeling low.
Spring is coming.It reminds me of the Beatles song - "Little darling, it's been a long cold lonely winter..." And if you are on the east coast, it HAS been! But Spring is coming and I am hoping that as the sun shines again and it warms up, that we will thaw and begin to bloom as well. I know we'll never be the same as we were before all this, but I want to have the best/richest/fullest life I can where I am now.
Sending care and concern to my sisters across the miles!
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Lena you are such a brat...there is no way we could have gotten through all this crap without you...see..there was a reason!
I think that this year thing is getting us down...Tuesday was when I had the mamo/us that started everything in motion...it's hard not to think about it sometimes..but people say.."Look how far you have come"...and I guess so...meanwhile..we have had sun in Ohio for TWO DAYS straight..that is a record and a sign that spring is coming.....plus Michael Buble (spell?) is on the musair and his song just makes me want to skip!
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OK, ps and bs scheduled implant and propylactic mastectmy for March 31st because of leak in expander and risk of infection - much more nervous about this surgery than the original one (one year March 10th).
Sign on billboard outside church I saw today
"Whoever is praying for snow - please stop"

Spring is coming!
Amy, Judy and Helen - we're all here for each other and hopefully this is another bump in the road - gotta be something to this one year mark, because we all are going through the down period around the same time. Maybe I'll pay a visit to the new people who were ua a year ago....I know I really appreciated it when someone who had gone through it gave support.
Geri
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My one year for the surgery was last week. I'm thinking that last year this time I was recovering and starting to anticipate the chemo which started in April. I had thought that by now I'd start to feel normal again as I bounced back after the first time I had bc. This time has been very different and I feel that I have lost so much. It's tough and unless you've been through this, people just don't understand.
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Although I don't understand what you are going through with this diagnosis a second time, you have many friends here who are pulling for you to gain strength, phsical and emotional.
Peaceful thoughts, gentle hugs
Geri
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Oh Helen....I was thinkikng that if I had to go through chemo again..well I just don't know,..the thougt of it makes me want to throw up.....but..you did this all again for some very good reasons....
Geri..loved the sign at your church..we need to start praying for some sun...we need our D3!
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Geri & Titan, thanks for your thoughts. I think I'm still angry that it happened a second time and that, despite being closely monitored, it had progressed by the time it was found. I won't get started on what I think about it all as it won't make any difference. But going through all this cr@p a second time was awful. I feel that I would never do it again. And I truly have not bounced back. I am finding it much more difficult.
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OK ladies...you have made me feel thankful that all I'm dealing with is an infected boob which by the way is much improved. No hives, no leaking foob, no stage IV...I never thought I'd say I was thankful for the infection but it seems pretty minor compared to what you are all dealing with.
I'm still waiting for my illegal drugs from India (after the fact, I found out that according to US law I shouldn't have ordered my cancer drug through Canada). To all you fed lurkers..screw you..if our system is so great then get me my drug! I'd be happy to purchase in the US if it was available.
I hate to tell you all this but it's beautiful in the NW. The cherry trees are in bloom, daffodils in bloom, hyacinths just beginning to burst forth. Spring has sprung here. It's one of the earliest and mildest springs I can remember. Tomorrow night I'm heading to plant nerd night...a garden program for us nerds. Last year at this time we had scheduled a small get together and that day I was diagnosed. It's hard to believe it's been a year. A hell of a year...
Sending all of you that are feeling low a {{hug}}.
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Betsy -I am so pleased to hear that things are improving with you. Enjoy your weekend.
Amy and Geri, thanks for all your support and for always being here! Geri, completely understand the pre surgery anxiety. If I have to take one of my kids to the doctor, I get flustered. I hope that it will all go well for you. Love the church billboard.
Helen - I cannot imagine having to do this twice and as always wish that there was something I could do to help you. But we are all here any time you need. Maybe, as the sun begins to shine and spring comes, things may start to look a little different to you. Hang in there : )
Titan - your posts always make me smile, thank you x
Dawn - I hope you are managing with all your house stuff.
(((HUGS))) to all for a good weekend, Judy x
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Ok..ladies..remember me telling you that my DD may be getting engaged soon? Well it happened tonight! She was crying and I was crying and her fiance' asked us if he could have her and we said take her (just kidding).OMG..I keep thinking of her as a baby and I don't know if I can sleep tonight I'm so excited...you guys are the first to know...Lena..she obviously did not take your advice to go to a movie instead..."kids these days!"
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Mazel Tov!!!! Great news!!!! Much joy to you and your family.
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Sending warm, loving thoughts your way, ladies, as the end of winter and beginning of spring make their marks- reminding us of what was happening a year ago today, yesterday, last month, next month. We've all made it through, though. Thanks to each other. Tammy -
- Thanks Helen...Mazel Tov right back at you!
And yes Tammy..thanks for the thoughts...like Lena said it really isn't a celebration..it is more like..ok..here is where we are NOW...compared to one year ago....Is it better..I think it is...is it great..well maybe not the best because of what we have gone through...but you know...like I told the onc when he asked me about my breathing..I just said YES I AM!AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO!
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