Starting Chemo in June 2005
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Glad you liked the pictures. I haven't put any of my peony portraits up yet. I am glad I have painting to turn to during this period.
Today looks like it will be another O.K. day. I am not sleeping much but my energy seems good.
It is very hot and humid here so that could be the reason. Also persistent heart burn.
eww.
I spoke to two woman who have survived BC yesterday. One is in year 3 the other in year 7. They were both very gracious and said I could call again. -
I haven't been on for awhile now. Had number 2 chemo last thursday and and it really put me right on my butt! I had my sisters in town for a sister weekend (planned before diagnosis) and that was nice, but very tiring! I can't even keep my eyes open and I have to nap all day. My sisters left yesterday so now I can relax and try to get some energy back. I am scheduled for a PET scan on wednesday. Anyone else have this?
Even though I am not posting, I am reading all the posts and hope everyone is doing ok. -
Hello Ladies,
I hope the sun is shining bright and there are smiles on your faces!! JoMac, the fourth treatment was much easier for me also. I was sick,just not as for long.Like you I will take this.Nosurrender,if you click on JoMac's picture or name it will take you to her website and her hubby's. Her hubby plays banjo(very well apparently) and I love the banjo.
Hubby got som corn and okra out of garden today so guess we will have fresh veggies tonight. Sure be glad when the tomatoes turn ripe. I love garden tomatoes.
My son's little girl has always copied the Six Flags man that dances. They call him Mr. Six and he is on all the commercials for Six Flags. They came over this week-end and I had found an old pair of black-rimmed classes that belonged to my Dad. I put those on and with blad head shining ran out and started dancing like Mr. Six for my grandaughter. It was a roit. She as well as the rest of family laughed until they cried. Bad part, husband said I looked just like him. It was a fun thing to do for my grandbaby. Just thought I would share.
Have to go to dr today for neulasta and fliuds. Hate the drive.Suppose to be 94 here today and humid. Not the most ideal weather to run arround in.
Ladies have a great day and will post tomorrow.
Maureen -
Scout...I had a PET scan..it's one of the easiest tests so far. They inject you with some glucose stuff through an IV in your hand...then you sit in a comfy chair for about an hour and drink water (I almost fell asleep). Then they put you in the machine for the scanning...you are not in there very long and your head is out if that makes any sense.
Jo...another fan of your watercolors! They are so pretty and soothing! Also like your husband's music!
Liz -
Jo I loved your pictures,will go back when I am not in chemo fog. Just had treatment #7, found out that no one where I am has made it through all 15 A/C treatments and they were more interested in Taxol reaction anyway. HELLO!
This past week has been hard. We went up to MSU to become a MSU parent. It was nice. I had my wig on but saw another lady with just her hat so decided to join her in hat support the next day. Never got to talk to her but did get a piece of advise we would have thought of-getting a credit card in our freshman's name but not give him the cards-just the numbers and so forth so that if he has to fly home quickly he can get a ticket online or phone. Sure he looked at me and thought of getting home fast. Also all those parents should thank me. Because I pooped out around 2:00 and was dozing in the back we got blow-pops to wake us up
The trip aside this has been a tough week. I finally got to take one of those nausea pills and thanks to the lump in my thoart and hiccups I get yet another test DH having a hard time with my energy level. Keep reminding him what I am taking. Was wondering does anyone else's house come to a stand still just because mom isn't able to keep going?
Nosurrender I am so trilled with your news It is great.
Going to float around in the sea-wearing light clothes so I don't go to the bottom. Maybe if I don't take my tank I can stay up here with the rest of the world -
Bev, I'm so sorry that you are having trouble with your regimen. Do they give the same amount of AC, just over more doses, more often? Or do you actually end up having a greater amount of the drug? I'm pretty happy doing every two weeks, but I wonder if they are thinking that every week gives better results, or is it supposed to have fewer side effects because of lower dosage? I'm curious what the purpose of the trial is....
I'm feeling pretty good today, a little tired after a busy weekend, but working. I was on a housekeeping kick yesterday, and cleaned the pantry, trash bins, and reorganized the counters and four kitchen drawers. I love a clean kitchen! Also finally got rid of the stains on the carpet with a new product - it's by Resolve and it's two twin containers of liquids that mix together when you squeeze the bottle. It really did the job on a dog puke stain that's been lurking in the middle of the living room for about six months.
We finally got rain - lots of it, and my lawn is green again, not brown. Maybe I'll go out and mow a bit this evening. It's about a four hour ob to do the whole thing, so I usually do it in two or three sessions. I love to mow the grass!
I guess I'm feeling like I might have a future after all - I've been thinking of projects for DH and me. He laughs...he's already got a "honeydo" list a mile long!
I've got Liz down for Thursday. Who else is this week?
Brenda -
I am still doing well after #4-6 days out so keeping my fingers crossed. My eyes are watery and blurry at times and I have not slept well but very little nausea and think my energy level is better than it has been. Bev I am also curious about your regime...I think we are in the same study but I was not clear on the dose of the weekly AC. And in retrospect I know I could not have done this weekly! Need to go get ready to take off tomorrow so probably won't post til next Monday.
KimB -
Michelle..hope tomorrow goes smoothly.
Kim...hope your trip goes well and you feel better!
Brenda..if you have any energy left over...want to come to my house?
Liz -
I'm gld you like the pictures. I am working on pictures of peonies now. Great big white ones.
Today I will try some red ones for a change of pace.
I wasn't sleeping well so I broke my Ativan tablets in half and took one at bedtime and another around three in the morning. That worked better.
At my house I feel like if I am in a good mood the rest of the family will be too. sometimes I think moods are catching like a virus and if one person has it pretty soon the whole family feels the effects.
Yesterday my daughrter came home with her boyfriend. she said he wasn't feeling well and she was making him a cup of tea.
I don't know if this was right or not but we sent them both over to his house. I was worried about getting sick.
Did I overreact?
I'ts not like he and I have any close contact but I couldn't bear the idea of getting sick on top of this chemo treatment. -
Hi Kim
I get weekly Adriamycin but half the dose dense dose people get in two weeks-by my second week I will have their same dose but not all at once. I also give myself daily shots of neupogen and haven't had any problems with that. It is the daily tablets of cytoxan, I am starting to smell like those tablets! I think by taking it daily it is bulding up in my bloodstream-maybe too fast? Guess I'll drink even more water. (sigh) I been rereading all the papers they sent home at the beginning of treatment and this lump in my throat is on the list-it doesn't say what to do but my doctor shouldn't have acted like she never had heard of it before.
But today I feel good. I will try to get as much done as possible and hopefully won't get as tired as last week so I can go for treatment #8 next week and be at the half way mark -
So, Bev, then after 8 weeks of A & C you will have had the same dose as those of us who are doing 4 tx dose dense... then are you doing Taxol for 8 weeks at 1/2 our dose? Apparently it still takes you 16 weeks of treatment, just like us. So what is it they are trying to prove? Better effectiveness, or fewer side effects/ better tolerance?
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Well, I decided not to take my Paxil yesterday morning and it's the best decision I've made yet! I have been tired from the chemo (last thurs), but I haven't been able to even keep my eyes open! All I have done is sleep and try to sleep and I just can't do it anymore. I feel MUCH better than yesterday and although I don't feel up to going shopping or throwing the ball for the dogs, I feel more like a human being. I need to call the dr today and let her know that I'm not taking it.
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Hi Junies! Wow! Seems like we are all inching our way to the finish line!
I have my 4th AC tomorrow and I'm so scared. I hope it goes better than #3. I'm feeling great today and I don't want to go back to feeling awful.
My tongue Thrush is just about gone... again...just in time to start all over again.
Bev... what is you that mentioned smelling like Cytoxin? Ya know, right after my treatments... for the next week at least I can smell that chemically smell and it just makes me gag! I hate that! It's so gross!!!! I'm getting sick just thinking about it!!!!! I feel for you... I really do!!!!
JoMac... your paintings are gorgeous. I so admire anyone who can paint. I'm crafty... but painting is just beyond me...you are truly talented!
My eyelashes are thinning and I am starting to get some bare spots. I'm sure my eyebrows have thinned some, but they are thick to begin with and I had let them grow unplucked just so I'd have a few more there when they started to fall out. I have stubble on my head... but I think it's not really "growing" hair... seems like it will fall out at some point.
Here's a funny deal... I was so concerned for a couple of days that I was having heart problems... but too afraid to actually address the situation. I just felt heavy chested (LOL!), uncomfortable, etc. Then it came to me... I had indigestion. LOL!!! I'm not used to having all of these crazy intestinal/digestive issues!!! It's really throwing me for a loop! Combine all the strange new symptoms with my paranoia and I'm really tightly wound up! Will it ever end????
Ladies... I am so frightened to start Taxol! I think I can handle bone/joint pain, probably even some numbness... but I don't want my fingernails to lift or anything of the sort! From what I've read, that doesn't happen to everyone but I'm so nervous.
Oh... I hate Cancer!
Anyway, hang in there TROOPERS! We will get through this! I just know it!
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Dana, You about covered it all. I ate some fresh lettuce and a nectarine yesterday. Big mistake.
My stomach is always upset one way or another. I wish I didn't have to eat at all but if I get to empty the nausea is worse.
So all these summer time foods are off limits to me. All I seem to be able to eat is chicken, chicken and more chicken.
I keep lying down because I feel tired and then the heartburn makes me get up again.
The only place I am happy is when I am working.
I have some red peonies that are coming out O.K. I don't know how. I must be on atomatic pilot. -
Heartburn, indigestion, yes. So bad that normal remedies don't touch it - have to go to old faithful, the old home remedy: 1/2 teaspoon baking soda stirred in a half glass of water, followed by another half glass of plain water. Tastes terrible, but works every time!!!
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Hello Ladies,
Well, I have went straight down-hill since yesterday. I went in for my neulasta and really did not feel like doing that but had to and it's all gradually got worse. Had heartburn so bad It made me gag and throw-up last night. Finally got up around 12:30 and took naseau pill to make me sleep. Sleep 'till about six. Then I got up crying because I just want to feel normal again and am so weary of all these symptoms. It seems we all have the same ones. Maybe thing will be better tomorrow. I would just like to go somewhere by myself and cry until I grow tired of crying.I hate cancer too Dana and all we go through because of it. Jo-Mac, I have eat so much chicken I will probably start clucking anytime. Will talk later.
Maureen -
has anyone had such terrible aftereffects after a/c #4? The reason that I ask is because I have #4 last Friday and from Sunday on I have been sick. Monday I was throwing up and running a fever. I have gone in the last two days to have iv fluid pushed and am still feeling really run down. I have had this cough that has been acting up and has of course has got my mind racing. Has anyone else had this problem after #4??? Can anyone tell me if I will experience this with Taxol???? I just feel like complete shit, excuse my french! Please help!
Cathi -
I'm glad to hear (well, not really...but you know what I mean) that I am not the only one feeling really crappy! Heartburn has me down and out and I tried the baking soda method..worked for about an hour! I have to have the *()))* PET scan tomorrow so I'm worried about not having anything in my stomach for the morning...test isn't until 9:30am and I have to go to the cancer place before to have an iv put in the port (anyone else's hospital won't do ports?) and it's supposed to be in the mid 90's tomorrow.
I'm glad I can moan and groan and not "bother" anyone at home. Don't get me wrong....family had been great....but I don't want to wear out the "groaning"...lol!
This is the first day I can sit up without feeling like I'm going to pass out. I don't know if it's the chemo or the fact that I stopped taking Paxil yesterday. Anywho...it's nice not to nap all day, even though I don't have any energy to enjoy it! -
Oh my, my, my!
Gather round Junesterettes,
HEARTBURN-
CLASSIC #1 SIDE EFFECT OF CHEMO!
"But no one told us!"
Well ...I did but I will let that slide-
there are LOTS of things that weren't in the brochure and that is one of them!
Before each infusion and during my entire chemo I took Zantac in the AM and PM. Ask your Oncs for permission before you do.
The DECADRON can cause major league heartburn AS WELL as the chemo. So get help! If it is really bad get something stronger- but the Zantac worked great for me. Also don't lie down right after eating- even though you can't sit up because you are so pooped. LEAN if you have to but let the food get to where it is meant to go!
RAW FOOD AND CHEMO!!! NO!!! Attention! NO!
First- raw is rough and chews up your innards along with the chemo and decadron. But what really can hurt you is the GERMS on it. You gals have no immunity- why play Russian Roulette. EAT ICE CREAM.
TAXOL AND NAILS-
What is this tatooed on someone's forehead??? I have never heard this brought up as much before. From the official cancer book here are the listed side effects of
Taxol and Taxotere:
"Muscle aches, hair loss, numbness or tingling in fingers or toes, and lowered blood counts."
Are nails listed??? The only time I have ever heard of a peeling nail- and that is only ONCE- is from someone who had to do Weekly Taxol with another chemo meant for advanced cancer- she had mets so she had to do it for a year .
PLEASE don't be afraid of Taxol. It is like saying- OMG I have been running up the side of a mountain but I am really scared of the part when I get to stroll down the garden path on the other side. HEY! You guys are finishing A/C- THAT is the scary one! Not the other way around. Hell's Bells, after A/C Bullets will bounce off you!
Good luck Scout with your PET- Stupid rule your hospital has there- if they can't handle a port at that hospital please don't ever get open heart surgery done there!
AND SPECIAL TO CATHI:
IMPORTANT-
CALL YOUR DOCTOR>
It sounds like you have an infection of some kind. Your low blood counts and immunity are fertile ground for opportunistic bacteria- especially if you have been hanging out with Jo eating raw fruit.
Get it checked now- get on some antibiotics before it can get any worse. You are at the end of A/C- this is no time to get pneumonia.
Is everybody clear now? Don't make me go all Towanda on you! -
Brenda, after dose # 8 for me I will have the same as #4 for the rest of the world but then I still get seven more doses of A/C if I can tolerate it. The study is suppose to be about neupogen and that other thing for white blood counts(?) can't recall name-fog....I think they want to see how long they can keep my white counts up at normal -which mostly they have been, only got low twice but not too low. Why 15 treatments of A/C-maybe they are looking to see if a body can take it.-maybe I wasn't nice to someone at the grocery store and this is my cosmic punishment(JOKING)
But I feel better this week except for my new friend-the lump in my throat, hoping I can make it until at least 5:00 for naptime -
Thanks for the Pep Rally NO SURRENDER! I sure needed that this morning as I'm heading out to get AC #4. I'm not so sure why I am so panicked this time. My dear husband said the same thing... it's not like it's a new experience.
Oh the Taxol/fingernail thing... I have no idea why I'm so obsessed with that! Go figure!
Nancy???? Where are you???? I'm going to have to check up on you if you don't post soon!
Scout... good luck with the PET scan.
JoMac... paint us some Peonies...
The rest of you crazy Chemo Junies... have a great day! (Or at least as good of one as you can muster!!!!)
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Nosurrender, can we eat watermelon? It is enclosed and you have to cut it open-in the same vein what about other fruit you have to peel? Thank God though now I can tell my husband to quit buying grapes. He seems to think the fruit group is green grapes, purple grapes and big grapes...NO MORE GRAPES!!
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Hi Bev I'm on the July post and snooping in yours to get more insite. I also had the lump in my throat and found I had Thrush. Maybe speak with your onc on this and they'll give you antifunal meds to help. It works. Good luck
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June Bugs,
Please keep your fingers crossed for me that my white blood count behaves tomorrow so I can get my #2 a/c in! I wish I were half the way done! You ladies may not feel 'lucky' right now, but I'm jealous!
I'm still hanging in there. -
Today I have hemmroids. Oh joy! I am paying for eating that lettuce yesterday.
My stomach is all over the place. Just not happy no matter what I do.
So now it has let me know in no uncertain terms.....It's got me coming and going?
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Hello everyone,
JoMac couldn't help but laugh when you said you had hemmroids because Preparation-H is already a friend of mine. Seems like some kind of medicine is always going in one end or the other. Today is my other. I have a very irritated mouth and throat and coated tongue. Called dr. and they said I was blessed with yet another symptom of the ole a/c the thrush. Called me in some meds for it. Oh yet another medicine to take. Yipee!!!
Dana, the best of luck to you on chemo #4 today. I was very anxious about my 4th one too. I think I just didn't want to be sick...sick again. I pray you will do good.
Watson, I will pray your bloodcount behaves so you can have your treatment. Bad enough to have to have one but to have them delayed has to be hard to tolerate. I know you are as ready as the rest of us to get through treatment. Just hang in there like we all do and the end will come, I hope and pray for us all.
Nosurrender, you make me laugh. I love your post. Bullets bounce off our chest...I love that. You give such good pep talks.
JoMac hope you fell better real soon because I would like to have a painting also. Can you sell all of us one? See how much work I'm mustarding up for you? You have to feel better.
Hope you all have a blessed day and restful night.
Maureen -
Hi Junians, I'm finally emerging from the murky waters of chemo #3 and I'm glad to see everyone! I haven't had the "sick" feeling so much as a "gloomy" one this time. Just been boo-hooey over the dumbest things, ultra tired (goes without saying) but I'm feeling more "normal" today, thank goodness! I still have the tender nail beds (Dana, I also fear the nail thing, even though NoSurrender is right about it being rare) and the sore spots from my tongue all the way out the other end. UGH. This time I asked for something for the heartburn, and the doc gave me a prescription for Prevacid. WOW! No more heartburn!!
I love Reeny's idea that we should all have a JoMac original painting...as a gift to ourselves for making it through this. Please put me on the list, seriously!
Good luck Watson on your WBC. Good luck Dana on #4, and thanks for looking after me! Good luck everyone else who is going in this week...sorry that I forget who is where right now.
I will probably be putting off my next chemo so that I can go see my son next week. He's going through a really bad divorce and needs some moral support. I want to be feeling well, and it is so worth it to me to have the chemo wait one more week. Not to mention I need the mental break...this is wearing me down big time. They don't call it dose DENSE for nothing...it feels like wall to wall chemo to me and I need an escape. oh, poor me...LOL!! -
It does seem like there is always a new symptom to deal with...I now have a lump in my throat at times, very dry nasal passages, loose bowels, aches and pains...never seem to get enough sleep and a sore in my mouth. I agree...not overjoyed at new prescriptions. I am going for # 3 tomorrow so will ask chemo nurse about newest symptoms.
Work has been a bear and I always get very cranky the day before chemo. I think some of my coworkers are starting to be afraid of me...that's probably a good thing
Dana..I guess we worry about our nails because being bald is bad enough...having falling off or green nails just doesn't improve the appearance one bit! Won't make us look good OR feel better!
Hugs,
Liz -
I was thinking of an anology... chemo is like using Agent Orange on your lawn to kill the dandelions. It just does a lot of peripheral damage, doesn't it? Hopefully, the next generation of women will have a drug that targets the cancer specifically without devastating the rest of the body. Still, I'm glad to be fighting this in 2005 instead of 1965!
I've been feeling really good this week! Even though I was sicker aafter #3 than any of the others, I got past it in record time and this week I have felt normal, and gotten a lot of work done, both in the studio and in the yard. I too am dreading Taxol, I almost feel like this has been too easy for me and I will get my payback in the second half. I feel bad for you ladies who have side effects that hang on into the second week.
Here's a question I'm going to ask the dr.: I was reading about the drugs A,C, and T. A and T both target the cancer during the active (dividing) part of the cell's life cycle. Cytoxin targets it during the resting part. So why is Cytoxin (or another drug) not given in conjunction with Taxol, so there would be a combination active/resting one-two punch during the last half of treatment?
I asked the infusion nurse about Taxol and nails, she said she has only seen it in a couple of patients who were doing Taxol weekly indefinitely because of mets. I think she said she had seen it in a lung cancer patient. -
Ughh....
Well I know I am not on the ball today. I just threw out the picture I started this morning. I should have known I wasn't with it. My daughter asked for the phone this morning and I handed her my glass of water.
So I guess today is a day when the side effects will rule.
My mind is gone, gone, gone.
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