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  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2005
    There's a story out today from the FDA. I always like to read what that do-nothing group have to say.

    Well it's about green tea and how it doesn't help ward off BC. Ok, but then it got me thinking, maybe it doesn't do anything for BC but it may do other nice things to our body and sure enough I found this:

    For mechanisms of the anti-obesity actions, green tea significantly reduced glucose uptake accompanied by a decrease in translocation of glucose transporter 4 (GLUT4) in adipose tissue, while it significantly stimulated the glucose uptake with GLUT4 translocation in skeletal muscle. Moreover, green tea suppressed the expression of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor gamma and the activation of sterol regulatory element binding protein-1 in adipose tissue. In conclusion, green tea modulates the glucose uptake system in adipose tissue and skeletal muscle and suppresses the expression and/or activation of adipogenesis-related transcription factors, as the possible mechanisms of its anti-obesity actions.

    So let that be a lesson for us. HUH? Well it sounds good anyway.

    I was also reading that 20 oz of green tea daily reduced LDL cholesterol. I thought I'd pass that on.

    Have a happy 4th everyone.
  • raven81
    raven81 Member Posts: 142
    edited July 2005
    Hello Divas--Happy 4th of July!!

    First off--CONGRATULATIONS Pat on the birth of your grandaughter, Reilly. So glad everything went well--enjoy your precious grandchild!

    Sorry I've been away for so long--just really busy, suffling the kids to summer activities, swim lessons, etc. Plus I have my MIL staying here for the past week. She's here for 3 more days--but whose counting

    I'm doing well, walking on my treadmill, counting my points, keeping busy. I'm down 37 pounds now--I'm at my pre second baby weight--want to get to my pre first baby weight--She's 11-1/2 now!

    So in spite of my MIL driving me crazy (she's a very negative person--a glass half empty type--totally opposite of me), and all the business of summer, I'm somehow managing to stay motivated. I've got more surgery coming up--going to New Orleans for DIEP surgery in 2 weeks--wish me well and say some prayers that all goes well. Thanks.

    How is everyone doing? I'll try to check in more often--will be recovering in early August, so I'll have more time to spend on the computer.

    Have a safe and happy 4th!

    Love, Eileen
  • TeriJune
    TeriJune Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2005

    Hi, I am a 3 year breast cancer survivor. How are you staying motivated to lose weight? I am on tamoxifin and I have found I am gaining weight all the time. I have gone up two dress sizes! I am tired, nauseous,depressed, etc. I had a masectomy and tram flap. Tell me your trick. Are you on weight watchers? I tried Curves and did well the first year but not the second. I seem to gain weight more now since I have been on the tamoxifin for awhile. I'll pray for you.

  • LJC
    LJC Member Posts: 119
    edited July 2005
    Hey Eileen, congrats on the weight loss. You are doing sooooo good. I wish I could say the same. Patti, I'm with you - NOT SO GOOD. The word 'diet' has not been in my vocabulary for months. Nor has 'healthy eating'. I just have not been able to get back to the program since October. I've gained all my lost weight back plus some. I think it's the emotional eater in me that has taken over my body. It's getting closer and closer for me to start my treatment and I think that's what has me stressed out.

    well, anyway, I saw this little blurb this morning and thought I would pass it on.

    Cancer Recovery Improved by Exercise.

    For a woman diagnosed with breast cancer, the long road to recovery can be both physically and mentally draining. Even those lucky enough to experience a full recovery often suffer from chronic fatigue or bouts with depression for years after the experience. However, a new study finds that simple lifestyle changes, including regular exercise, can significantly improve quality of life for breast cancer survivors. As reported in the Journal of Clinical Oncology, researchers found that women who incorporated 30-minute workouts into their daily routines were much less likely than sedentary women to experience fatigue after undergoing breast cancer treatment. In addition, women who exercised were more likely to develop a healthy body image and overcome the periodic depression that is known to plague many cancer survivors.

    Hope everyone enjoyed their 4th.
  • NYJanet
    NYJanet Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2005
    Eileen: Congratulations on the 37 lbs. That's FANTASTIC. Keep up the good work (which must be especially hard having your MIL visiting). Isn't it nice when we get to pre-pregnancy weight. I know I haven't been this thin in 21 years. I will be thinking of you and saying my prayers in the next few weeks. Why New Orleans?

    Teri - I am on weight watchers and doing their new "core" program (i've been a ww member for a long time and have found that I have the most success ever on their new program). I started Tamoxifen and doing the WW "core" program about the same time last August. I've lost almost 18 lbs. since then (30 lbs. total - slight slip up when I was diagnosed in 2/04). It's been a lot of hard work (gym, walking, weight watchers). I don't know if it is easier for me since I didn't have chemo but the Tamoxifen hasn't really been a problem for me as far as weight gains. Don't give up, you can do this. We're here for support if you need it.

    Hope all you other wonderful ladies had a great 4th. I did and now it's back to reality (although I am NOT going to my meeting today). Pat - How is Reilly? Any pictures yet. - Janet
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2005
    Hi Eileen,

    This has been one heck of a long road you've been on. I wish you well for the next surgery. How are you doing since the ooph? It sounds like you've recovered pretty good. How are you doing with the hot flashes? Are you getting any? I got lucky with taking magnesium for them early on. I wish that worked for everyone but it doesn't seem to. 37 lb. weight loss, that's really good. It gives me a little more motivation. I know I can pry these lbs. loose.
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2005
    Lois,

    What treatment are you getting closer to having? Thanks for the blurb about exercise. Today I've taken a day off from the routine. I'm happy that it's coinciding with a no hunger day because it would be too much effort to chew.

    Welcome Teri,

    I had a friend who went through the same thing with tamox. She gained a lot of weight suddenly. Out of the blue it hit her. I never did find out if she suddenly got hungry all the time, or what happened. The subject got changed quickly.

    I think it's good to have a doable goal short term. It keeps you motivated when you reach it to start another one.

    I'm working on two goals, to reach my BMI weight and have a waist under 35 inches. My third goal is never to stand next to a skinny woman. They can be taller then me, that's ok, they can't help it.

    I'm doing the healthy eating thing without counting calories. Let them count themselves.
  • cowgirl
    cowgirl Member Posts: 777
    edited July 2005
    Well okay time to fess up. I am depressed, I wish I could lie but it has gotten to me. Not the mourning for my breast oh I wish it was that simple! It is the pain I feel that my life has been taken over by stinkin cancer. I have my next surgery in October, they offered me September but I couldn't do it so soon.

    My kids have suffered as well as my husband and well drat it me too! So I have been eating for about three weeks, it is over 100 here and walking outside is not doable. So I went back to my old confidant food.

    I feel better by saying it I wish I wasn't hungry but I am.

    Did I mention I skipped my meeting? I have to go this week, I let myself stay home tonight but I have to make it up!

    Teri see I have nothin for you right now it is a struggle moment by moment. Welcome to our group though!
  • DragonladyTina
    DragonladyTina Member Posts: 371
    edited July 2005
    Good morning Ladies,
    I have been reading all the posts and am inspired.
    I have been a member of WW for many years off and on and joined "again" last Oct. I was doing very well on the Core program when I was diagnosed with BC in Dec/04. Up to then I had lost 12lbs. I continued to go to meetings but I found it hard to get into the program, had too many other things on my mind, tests, blood work, doctor visits etc etc. I went on to have double mast. with tissue expanders, weekly fills, Picc line, chemo and finally when chemo was over I rejoined WW. I picked up where I left off. I had gained 3lbs of my original weight loss. I have been very dedicated to the program since then because I heard Tamoxifen seems to include weight gain and estrogen is stored in fat cells. My 5.5cm breast tumor was 100% ER/PR positive. I have lost 34lbs to date and I get weighed in every Thursday. It is a struggle though but reading this thread is getting me through.
    Good luck to everyone, and THANKS!

    Tina
  • pconn03
    pconn03 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2005
    Hi Janet and all my Diva Friends:
    I'm still here in Milwaukee but will be home on July 11th and getting back into WW and exercise in a big way. I have no idea of how I'm doing weight-wise but all of my clothes seem to be fitting the same. That's not saying much though because they're all more loose exercise casual type of things. Oh well, I'll know soon enough won't I??
    Janet, thanks for asking about Reilly. She is 3 weeks old today - born on 6/15. She is just a little doll. I have so many great pictures but will have to learn how to post them to the site. I miss you all and will be checking in next week Tuesday or Wednesday and let you know how the weight thing has been going!!! UGH!!
    Hugs to you all,
    Pat
  • aalice
    aalice Member Posts: 12
    edited July 2005
    I have been on WW Core since Feb. Had that fateful mammo on March 1st! I have lost 32 # and so glad I did not go off program! My oncologist said waliking 30 to 45 min a day is the best thing I could do for any side effects I might encounter! He is also my neighbor! He said would help depression, anxiety, arimedex side effect, radiation side effects etc!!!!! I am 67 and hoofing it every a.m! I walk to my treatments!
  • LJC
    LJC Member Posts: 119
    edited July 2005
    Pat, I don't think I got to congratulate you on the grand baby yet. We do want to see pics so you better learn how to post them.

    Rosemary, I found out that I have Hep c last November, so I'll be starting that treatment in the next few weeks. I actually have a class tomorrow so I can learn how to give myself the weekly shot. YUCK!!! It's one year and the side effects are very similar to chemo - been there done that!

    I say my onc yesterday for the 3 mo. f/u, I've now graduated to 4 mos. YEAH!
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2005
    Hi Lois,

    I'm sorry to hear about the new treatments your not looking forward to. Of course your mind is not on dieting now. For sure, yukkers on having to give yourself a shot every week.
    How did that class go?

    You'll get back to the dieting again. The scale forces us to do it.

    I'm impressed with all the weight loss connected with doing WW. Losing 35+ lbs seems to be the norm. I can't even pick up 35 lbs anymore. It kinda puts it into proper perspective.
  • susanlynn9
    susanlynn9 Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2005
    Hi Ladies. Were any of you overweight prior to bc? or is this a result of treatments? I want to be healthier when I come out the other side than I was before dx, which means losing weight, eating right, and exercising. So many of the ladies on the boards seem to have been slim and trim prior to dx, it seems a little discouraging. I've changed my eating habits, and now that my drain is out, I'll be walking every day starting on Monday.

    I just know that the mast site would not have looked as horrible to me if I wasn't overweight also. I have my first appt with my onc on 7/15 and will be starting chemo after that. I'm kind of hoping that chemo will help with the weight loss. Does it?
  • LJC
    LJC Member Posts: 119
    edited July 2005
    Susan, I was overweight prior to bc. I was probably one of the few that did manage to lose weight while on chemo - it was only about 10 lbs. But when I finished I thought I'd do the healthy thing and I lost another 15. But circumstances have brought be back up again.

    Rosemary, the class was very informative. My girl friend went with me so it wasn't too lonely & depressing. We went to lunch and shopping afterwards. I did learn how to do the injection. Didn't seem too bad but of course I was injecting into a "fake" body part not my own. I got the prescription and another order for blood work. So I'll probably start in 2 - 3 weeks. YUCK!!!
  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    I keep up with this thread, although I only post once in a while.
    You guys all seem to have so much success on weight watchers, and I feel like I need to get up the courage to go. How silly is this? I beat cancer, got new breasts and hair, and I'm embarassed to go to weight watchers???
    I like my body. Especially since my reconstruction, although the scar on my abdomen is taking some getting used to.
    I keep thinking that going to weight watchers is going to be like the first support group I went to for BC-- when everyone looked at me like I was way too young to be part of the group. I keep thinking that girls my age should be in the gym, and have great bodies, and wear bikinis all the time and be tan. Is my head warped or what???
    I also have a fear of failure. What if I don't lose weight every week at the weigh in?
    Right now I am 10 pounds heavier than my pre cancer weight, and I really need to lose 25 pounds to be a knockout, 35 pounds to be a movie star... lol
    I don't know which program would work better for me- the core or the points? and I can't believe I can't get up the courage to go... my friends are all in shape, my sister weighs 2 pounds, and I would definitely be going at this alone. (not that that would be much different than getting cancer at 26)
    I have such a great attitude about life, and the way I look... but I know if I could drop 20 pounds there would be nothing holding me back from considering myself a "10"
    does that sound stupid?
    words of wisdom please..
  • NYJanet
    NYJanet Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2005

    Beth: From one Long Islander to another, I just wanted to let you know how much success I've had with Weight Watchers. My situation is somewhat different than yours (almost 50, only lumpectomy). I have been a Weight Watcher for years having lost 30 lbs. over 7 years ago. Over the years I put it back on. Then about 3 1/2 years ago after my daughter left for college, I decided it was time to do something for myself (lose weight and get back in shape). I started having success immediately but then it gradually tapered off and I hit a 24 week plateau, at the same 2 lbs. However, the members at my weekly meeting and my leader were so supportive (mostly women, varying ages from your age to my age to women old enough to be my mom). Then I was diagnosed. During my treatments I continued going but gained weight. Each week my leader told me, don't worry once your treatment is over, you will get back on track. Last August, when my treatment ended, I slowly got back on track. I was also concerned since I started Tamoxifen. Then WW Core came. I was very resistant at first to the new program and vowed I would remain on Points. Gradually I slowly started Core. Today I couldn't imagine doing anything else but Core. Since last August I've lost almost 18 lbs. for a total of 31 altogether. It has been a struggle at times. I also walk regularly (4 days a week for 1 hour) and work out at the gym 2 times a week. Please don't think you are being stupid. Deciding to go to a meeting is a tough decision. Try to attend a meeting somewhere. You will be amazed how much better you feel (I'd love to have you at the meeting I attend, it's a really great group). Also I find that the meetings are not about the diet but helping you get "your head" in the right frame of mind for changing to a better way of eating. I'm here to help support you during your weight watchers process. Please know that it may be a slow process, anything worth achieving sometimes takes a while. My favorite motto during my weight loss process was "slow and steady, steady and slow, that's the only way to go." I wouldn't go back to my old body for anything. I don't know if I'd consider myself a "10" but my hubby of 26 years sure seems to like it (haha). I know I've rambled but I'll end with my ww leader's favorite quote of "If you believe, you will achieve." Please know I'm here for you. Good luck from a fellower Long Islander. - Janet

  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    where do you go to mtgs?
    So the core is the way to go???
    can I eat cheese? I think I'll die without cheese.
    Thanks for the uplifting post...I know I need to make life changes, and I'm 100% ready, willing and able... I just wish I could do it without help...
  • NYJanet
    NYJanet Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2005

    Morning Beth: I live in East Islip and go to meetings here on Tuesdays at 5. For me yes, Core has been the way to go. I've never had this much success on any WW program. I am also a cheese lover. Now I've just learned to eat it in moderation. On weight watchers you can have anything (even on Core - which does take some getting used to)you just have to count it. You can have anything in moderation. I don't feel deprived at all, I even get Edy's Slow Churn ice cream once or twice a week. - Janet

  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    I had an epiphany yesterday. I wrote down my weight loss goals, how I intend on achieving them, and dun,dun DUNNNNN
    i got a food journal, but I am desperately afraid to write in it.
    I went for a one hour walk this morning, and I called my trainer yesterday to tell him I wanted to resume working out next week, three times a week. And I will continue to walk three times a week on my own.
    For some added motivation, I wrote a list of 20 reasons of why I need to make it happen every day.
    The list includes everything from What it would feel like to shop for a size 6, to the names of certain guys in my present life who I'd love to watch their faces hit the floor after not seeing me for a while.
    Of course, lessening the chances of cancer coming back, and making my doctors happy is somewhere on the list too... but the truth is- the motivating factors in all of this, is that I feel like I've been through so much, and I deserve to look as good as I feel.
    I don't settle on anything else in my life... why the hell should I settle on myself??
    My list of goals is pasted on my bedroom wall. I have to look at it twice a day.
    I haven't been this motivated in quite some time.
    I will check in with my weight and progress every week.
    Thanks for listening guys!
    Janet-- we should definitely meet...
  • NYJanet
    NYJanet Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2005

    Beth- GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!! You have definitely taken the first step. You sound so motivated right now. A food journal is the best thing. On Core, WW says you don't need to journal. However, i MUST each week or I have a gain. For me, it is a way to keep myself honest and not "cheat" too much. I even have a note on my fridge that says "climb", meaning that I must keep reaching for my goals (even though I've met them already I still must keep reaching). Remember I'm here for any support you need. Keep up the positive attitude. - Janet

  • monke123
    monke123 Member Posts: 44
    edited July 2005
    Hi Ladies-I can't believe this thread is up to so many pages!!! I have been gone way to long...finally back with a new computer and internet hookup...just wanted to pop in and sat HI! I have a lot of catching up to do
  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    I fell of slightly this weekend. OOPS.
    Friday night I ate the most heavenly icecream. It was INSANE.
    I felt guilty, and heard the voice of my trainer in my head...so Saturday, in the nasty humidity I walked 4 miles.
    Fell off again on Sunday... which is my planned "cheat" day, where I do not exercise, and I can relax about what I eat. Boy was that chinese food good.
    However, I am happy to say, that I woke up on this wonderfully structured Monday morning, ate my cereal and skim milk with protein powder, and I can't wait to get into the gym.
    Whats shaking with everyone else?
  • beachcottage
    beachcottage Member Posts: 4,688
    edited July 2005
    Hey Diva's...



    I am back!

    I think I have my groove back...I have been working my tail off

    for just over three weeks now...





    I walk every morning...Even with all of this humidity..

    I am up to four miles...Each day I push a little further..





    I try to get my carbs in the morining...Any other carbs for the day are fruits or vegtables along with protein...I have been making an effort to measure out protein also.....It seems to be working...I do not feel as sluggish...



    Beth..It is nice to have you posting with us..Sounds like you are off to a great start....I wish it would cool of just a bit....I am not going to let this humidity get in my way...I have used up all of my excuses! It is time for me to get this weight off....



    Eileen-Raven Wishing you luck for tomorrow and a speedy recovery..Sending you thoughts and prayers friend!xoxo,Patti



    Lois how are you doing? Have you started your shots yet? Thinking about you ..Sending you a hug...



    Pat how are you doing grandma? I can;t wait for you to post a picture of your new baby girl....



    Diane..It was so great to see a post from you...I hope you are feeling better....



    Rosemary than you for all of the links..I have been busy reading...



    Janet great idea about the journal....I am going to give that a try......Do you have any more recipes? How is your sister in law doing? Please tell her that we were asking about her...



    Cowgirl how are you doing? I hope you are feeling stronger each day...



    Tina nice to see you posting with us....



    Ladies we are you? WE would love to hear from you...We can do this.....



    I will write some more tomorrow......xoxo,

    Patti
  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited July 2005
    Patti,

    Yes it's good info but every time I read something that is either healthy or fights BC, I have to add it to my daily regimen. There's not enough time in a day to eat and drink all that good stuff.

    I'm still maintaining my weight. I seem to be good at that. I think it's time to get drastic and give up the frozen yogurt. That Ben & Jerry's can be a diet killer.

    Lois..I'm happy that you brought a friend along and made a nice day out of it.

    Everyone sounds so motivated we'll all be breaking the barriers soon.
  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    For those of you icecream/frozen yogurt lovers, here's something I found takes away those cravings while still meeting my need for sweets.
    Cool whip has a new product called Cool whip FREE.
    It has 3 carbs in a serving, and i believe it is sugar free.
    I put it in the freezer, and then get fresh blueberries/raspberries whatever... and its such a good sweet treat.
    A spoonful of grape nuts adds a little crunch to it, and you would think you were eating a sundae.
    I know its not the real thing... but it tastes great, and you won't feel guilty about it afterwards.
  • NYJanet
    NYJanet Member Posts: 150
    edited July 2005
    Patti & Beth: You are both right, walking lately here has been horrible. I can't wait to get rid of the humidity.

    Patti: Thanks for asking about my sil. She's not doing well. She needs more surgery and the chemo doesn't seem to be working. In fact we are going down to see them next week. Looking forward to seeing her, my bil, and my nieces and nephew. Thanks for asking about her. PLease remember her in your prayers.

    I weigh in today. Been a tough two weeks. Trying to stay in control but parties and barbeques are tough. Hoping that all my walking in this humidity helps.

    We are in this together and together will reach (and maintain) our goals. Have a great week all. - Janet
  • beachcottage
    beachcottage Member Posts: 4,688
    edited July 2005
    Hey friends...
    I worked out at home this morning...
    Humid here again today...
    I am going to walk later on this evening..
    Hopefully
    it will cool down a bit....

    I am retaining so much fluid..Must be the humidity...

    I have my three month onc visit tomorrow...
    Keep your fingers crossed ...


    Rosemary you go girl...
    Managing the weight is key...
    When I loose all of mine you will have to help me

    Beth I am going to the grocery store soon..I have to try your low fat dessert....Sounds wonderful...

    Janet I am sorry that your SIL is having such a diffucult time...I will keep her in my prayers...So glad you can take time to be with her and her family now...Please keep us posted...Sending you a hug...

    Eileen sending you vibes of comfort and healing...

    Lois.. Pat..Diane.....Where are you??????

    xoxo,
    Patti
  • pconn03
    pconn03 Member Posts: 643
    edited July 2005
    Patti and all my sweet Diva Friends:
    Sorry to be so AWOL . . . I just got home from Milwaukee a week ago and trying to get my own stuff back in order. It was such a delight to be there with my daughter, son-in-law and of course, most importantly, my little granddaughter, Reilly!!!! She is such a sweetie and I love her so!!! I'm still trying to figure out how to post her picture and I am determined to find out how to do it, so keep watching . . . : I think I have to post them to some sort of website first???? I have them downloaded on my computer from my digital camera but that's as far as I've gotten.
    Now, regarding WW and that weight/exercise subject . . . I didn't gain at all when at my daughter's house which is a mirace in itself because I didn't do any formal exercise at all. I did do washing, cooking and helping with the baby so maybe that kept me from gaining, not sure. Anyway, I'm back in the mode now and am going over to the gym in awhile. I still have four sessions left with a trainer there and then I'm on my own completely. I plan to go to WW in the next few days and get weighed there as well. I need to keep my weight in tow because my knee replacement surgery is coming up on August 10th - and after that I won't be 'working-out' in the real sense, only therapy for the knee . . .
    I want to thank all of your for your sweet and caring comments on Reilly and on my being a first-time Grandma (Grammie)!!! You ladies are the best and I feel like you are all 'old friends' of mine. God bless each and every one of you!!
    Again, sorry for being so delinquent but I think of you all everyday.
    God bless,
    Pat
  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    This humidity is something else. I had a two hour workout with my PT cutie Gary yesterday, and we introduced some new arm reps and stretches into my routine.
    I walked today in this nastiness... I was soaked to the core with sweat, and now I am trying to play catch up drinking water, so they can find a vein to stick me with some herceptin today.
    Janet- I'm thinking of your SIL. Don't worry about the weigh in today if the numbers haven't moved. You have been such a source of inspiration to me these last few days, and I want to be here for you as well- maybe we could do lunch (healthy, of course) later this week.
    Everyone else, don't let the weather stop you from getting in some exercise. I know that I am on such a roll, that if I stop for even a day, I will suffer a setback.
    The bridesmaid dresses for my brothers wedding come in in about a week or two... I think that's going to be the reality check for me. 8 weeks till the wedding, and I want to look my best. I'll check in later
    Beth

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