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ROFL, egal. I kind of know that feeling. BTW, I think MuuMuus are back "in."
Dotti, aren't you having surgery soon?
Eyeshadow question: Remember how years ago we were supposed to put the shadow over the entire lid but then put a small dot of highlighter/light shadow on the upper lid right over the pupil to "wake up" the eye? Do people still do that? I find that if I do my entire eye in shadow (say, light taupe), my eyes look too dark and tired. But, if I do only the outer part of the upper lid, it looks kind of weird. If I bring eyeliner into my inner corners on the upper lid it looks weird, too, but I see in so many fashion mags that models and the "stars" do it all the time. What gives?
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Didja go to Look Good Feel Better?
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I put a MUCH lighter shadow on the inner corner of my eyes almost halfway across, then a dark shadow over the other half. I don't use eyeliner, so I do use the dark shadow and mascara on my bottom lashes. The light at the inner corner makes me look awake.
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To add, I did read Dotti's comment about lower lashes and mascara, but I'm only 51 and can still get away with it. What I CAN'T do - and never have been able to pull off - is eyeliner! I look like a hooker! My girls do it beautifully.....sigh.
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Egal, the best way to stop eyelash pulling is to brush some fine face powder or cornflower on the ends of the lashes with a soft blush-brush first. This does two things, 1) It absorbs any moisture/humidity (which causes the lashes to stick to the curler) on the lashes, 2) It helps to thicken and separate the lashes to give a natural finished 'look'. I have lived by this routine for nearly forty years and it worked well until they started to make mascara almost wet and packaged it in packs which don't allow you to pull the wand out to see the texture of the goop inside. Now I have about 1000 types of mascara and the best one seems to be the Rimmel brand.
Abbadoodles, the eyeliner thing is so 'retro' I can't believe it's back! We used to do that in the 60's and it was a hard thing to do then. Nobody's eyes are exactly the same, so if you have to outline something that is shaped differently, you are just making it more obvious to the onlooker. I liked a softer brown/taupe line that wasn't so obvious, still do, but can't help but laugh to see it back again.
Sheila.
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My daughter does the dark eyes thing and it looks nice but startling.
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Dream, that comment made me smile! But I know what you mean. They have done it that way for so long that when I see them without it, they look naked!
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I am a three color eye shadow girl. I start with my base color and only put it on the center lower part of the lid. Then my dark color in the crease and I use the blender brush from MAC to make it blend and not look so dark, then the highlighter color under the brow bone and on the inner corner. Top is off with eyeliner, mascara and I'm good to go. For over the top drama I add a fourth darker color to the outer corners of the crease to the lash line... I'm going to look for pictures on MAC's web site, and if I find any I'll post them here.
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I am finding that one color over all eye area and a little gel pot eye liner from Bobbi Brown is working GREAT. Not using mascara at all now.
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I think that eyeliner UNDER the eye is very important...it makes the eyes look larger, and a good dose of mascara top and bottom...just a little smudged. After chemo my eyebrows grew out much lighter, so I darken them with an old mascara brush, running it opposite the growth pattern.There is something new out there--I've forgotten the name of it--but it's something that you can be prescribed to apply to your eyelashes to make them grow thicker. I see a little ad for it every time I go to my PS's office.
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Is it Latisse???
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Yes, that's it. Anybody tried it?
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What works best for me that I use two eye liner colors. A dark gray liner under my eyes that try to draw a thin line from about half way out. And for my upper lid I use a black liner that I draw a thin line along my lash line. If the liner comes on darker then the line definitely needs to be thiner but it the liner comes on lighter then it can be a little thicker. I finish it off with some water proof black mascara. The regular mascara made my eyes itch and would smudge especially in the summer. I do dab a little powder on my eye lid and lashes prior to applying my liner and mascara.
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I used Latisse--and it works. I finally have lashes long enough to fit in the lash curler, it took over 3 mos, to finally show a difference, tho, so one has to be patient. I didn't get it in the US thol
Yes, surgery is recommended but i'm getting a second opinon Fri. Having worked with a number of clients who had poor outcome, it was the last thing I thought I'd ever do--turn my back over to someone holding a knife! But I can just clean the kitchen and start a load of laundry and I'm in my recliner and taking codine. Lovely. Walking and standing just totally do me in and I cannot even shop---No grocery, drug store, etc. Did make it to Hallmark for Fr.Day cards.
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Iodine, you've tried everything!!! You like latisse?
Surgery? What surgery are you turning down? BTW, I am finally recovering from my surgery last spring. Six weeks ago if you'd asked me about it I would have told you it was the worst thing I ever did in my life, but now, I think it's the best thing. I don't miss those wrinkles on bit!!!
Miz
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I am also using Latisse. I don't know how well it is working since it is hard to gauge. I started using it when I had lost my lashes and they came back fairly quickly. I am not sure if it was the Latisse or my normal growth. Who knows. I keep losing some patches but I understand this can happen for a while. I finished chemo the end of January09.
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Hey my chiquitas (esp Raye and Tina)...what was that shade of Opi y'all recommended? It's like a blush hue, a very pale pink..? I found myself in front of the Opi display at a loss and I don't want to spend money on a shade that looks like the bajillion others I've bought which are either too pink or too white. Didn't it have a "marital" theme?
Also, what top coat do you recommend? I need something tough to last through all of my initial wakeboarding lessons (where I expect alotta crash 'n burn!)!
~Marin
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Hola Chica! Love your new avatar BTW. Gorgeous.
You are right on with the marital theme - Tina and Lisa recommended OPI's "Second Honeymoon." I guess it's light with just a touch of pink. I have a whitish looking Sally Hansen polish, but cannot remember the name (bottle is at work).
As far as a top coat, I have no clue - too lazy to use one.
Recommendations welcome here as well - I end up painting my nails every day because the polish doesn't stay on. -
Yowza! Marin. Just look at those long locks. Tres sexy! Sans doute.
Yes, on the Second Honeymoon. I also like the new Bubblebath. I'm told it is very popular. Very, very pale pink.
Maybe using a base coat will help the polish last. I've been using the Barielle nail strengthener/fortifier instead of a regular base and it seems okay. My top coat, which I hardly ever use because then I have too many coats on, is the Zoya one. I forgot the name which is something like Armor, I think.
My hair is just a big fuzzball these days because of the constant rain and humidity. It seems I've tried *everything* and nothing really helps. The post-chemo hair was so curly that it couldn't frizzs and now that it has grown out it's back to it's old, bad tricks. Any product suggestions other than those silicone things - which don't work for me???
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Since my surgery I have quit biting my nails ( Bad habit I know) and like to keep polish on my nails. A nail tech told me the best way to paint your nails is to put a base coat on and a thin coat of color on one night and for the next 2 or 3 nights put another thin coat of color on each night to allow each coat to completly dry and prevent smudges. Then after you get all the color coats on you want, put on a top coat. When it starts chipping, remove all coats and start over the next night. For me after I get the top coat on it lasts almost 2 weeks. She also suggested the Sally Hanson products. I have a bottle of Sally Hansen color 'bamboo shoot' that is a pearlized white that I use frequently because it doesn't clash with anything I wear. I purchased it at Rite Aid last summer in the clearance section (less than a dollar
), not that I am cheap but I can't pass up a good deal so I don't know if it is still an active color. But Sally Hansen does have a nice variety of colors.Sheila
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Sheila - what type of top coat do you use? I look in my drawer here at work and I have Nail Envy by OPI, which is a nail strengthener - I wonder if that will work as a base coat? I do like Sally Hansen polish as well, as it has something in it that makes my nails stronger. I have an older OPI (maybe from last year) called La Paz-itively Hot, that I am wearing. Sort of a brightish pink - nice for summer and goes well with a tan.
Tina - did you ever try any of those Frizz Ease products by John Freida? I have some serum from that line that works really well as long as I have softened water. Down in Myrtle Beach, we had hard water and my hair was frizzy even with the serum. May have been the humidity also, but it is hot and humid here today and I am not having that problem. Now one of my girlfriends told me about a product she uses and darn it, I can't remember the name. Something strange. Helpful, aren't I? I will ask her and report back. She has wavy/can be frizzy hair - but with this stuff - her hair is softly wavy with no frizz at all.
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OK - I just remembered what my girlfriend uses on her hair - MOP. Link below. When I talk to her today, I will ask her which specific product she uses.
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Raye, I can't remember what my top coat is, although it may be one of the Sally Hansen top coats, the bottle is at home. I think the nail strengthener would work as a base coat, some of the Sally Hansen base coats are also nail strengtheners. One color I have (soft pink with a white tone) is a Sally Hansen with a 'diamond' on the bottle. It is supposed to resist chipping like a diamond. I do have a hot pink polish (not name brand) I bought last October for Halloween (I was Brittany Spears - with a frizzy blonde wig) that I have put on my toe-nails this summer - just because I wanted to.
I just went to the Sally Hansen site and they have a color checker where you put in your nail length, shape, skin tone and you can check out colors on nails with your skin tone. It was fun checking out the colors without committing to buying anything. http://www.sallyhansen.com/
Sheila
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Calling all breast cancer sisters... can you do me a favor? I know this is off the topic and I hope it's okay to post this but...I am trying to win a contest for my son (to meet his idol - Joe Perry, Aerosmith)... all you have to do is click on this link and click on the thumbs up icon to vote for our entry (legit site, legit contest, MOST deserving young man!)... can you please help me? Just trying to bring a little joy into my son's life after all this depressing /chemo stuff... voting is only June 23-26... please vote? It'll only take a second... help me bring joy to this boy!
Thank you so much! P.S. It says you can only vote once, but if you have more than one computer I think you can vote twice.. lol We are only in second place by about 30 votes and voting ends Friday!!!http://www.aeroforceone.com/index.cfm/pk/view/cd/NAA/cdid/1177058/pid/1175576
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Just tried a little trick I had read about to get stray hairs into place. You spray your hairbrush or extra toothbrush with hairspray, then use it to slick down the strays.
I tried it to help smooth down the wild frizzies I have from walking 2 miles in the light mist yesterday evening. Since I just washed my hair yesterday, I didn't feel like doing it all over again this morning.
I can tell you that it does work, at least a bit. Better than nuthin'. I only did it once with the wide MasonPearson-type brush I have. Probably I will have better results if I do it a couple more times, but I can see it would work pretty well on minor frizzies. And, you don't have to spray your whole head and get gunked up and stiff.
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Sheila - you go with your bright pink toenails! Love it and that fact that you dressed up as Brittany Spears.
Yes, I know exactly the bottle you mean with the diamond. I have the Maximum Growth Plus polish by Sally Hansen in Pearl Wisdom.
Yes, I've voted on the Aerosmith site twice now - Tuesday and Weds - it's looking pretty good for you guys as far as I can tell. Good luck.
Today, I straightened my hair with the flat iron - what a process, but it's a different look from my usual curlyISH hair (I really should change my avatar as I typically wear my hair curly). Honestly, I am just glad to have hair.
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Right now I have the diamond strength passion flower creme on my finger nails. I go between this and the bamboo shoot color. My bottle of top coat is almost empty so I will be looking at getting a new bottle this weekend, I may try the instant dry top coat by Sally Hansen. My nails are beginning to start showing some wear on them, so I will probably start my manicure process this weekend. I know it takes a couple of days but when I try to do several coats in one evening, I end up with smeared nail polish and this system works for me.
I have voted a couple of times for the Aerosmith fan.
Sheila
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Hi Ladies... Love all the tips. I have a question for you. I am 5 months post chemo and my hair is downright BAD. I had straight blonde hair before and now it is coming in CURLY and brown. I would guess it is only about 2 inches. I am going to my hairdresser tomorrow to try to get a tinsy bit cut to see if it will "clean it up" a little. I am still wearing a wig (in this Houston heat I might pass out!). I just can't get use to this. Any recommendations on something to do to make it look better? Any assesories or something??? To top it off it isn't thick curly it is pretty fine. It feels like baby hair.
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Cristl - my hair came back differently as well; it was always wavy, but when it was about 2" like yours, it became curly (tight curly) and the color was off. Mine came back much darker - but an odd shade - I used a temporary Clairol dye to take away some of that ironish black look my hair had. When the dye washed out, my color was dark, but a nice dark.
I ditched the wig three months post chemo and wore a banana over my head - I felt safer that way. Accessories: I would wear headbands, stretchy ones or the hard ones and then, as my hair grew longer, I started using little clips. In the pic below, I am 9 months post chemo and was able to use the clips. For me, I couldn't wait for the bangs to come in - they seemed to have taken the longest to grow.
I think getting a little trim is a great idea; there are still chemicals in your hair from the chemo and it is good to that hair trimmed. I had a few tiny trims after my hair started coming back in.
Hang in there - little by little you will see a difference. Don't wash your hair too much, as you don't want it to dry out and use a nice conditioner and maybe a leave-in conditioner as well. Oh, I also used a sticky gel-like product to bring the tiny curls out and make them more defined and controlled.


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Raye, a banana on your head? ROFLMAO
Post-chemo hair is a drag but it is HAIR. Hallelujah! About the only suggestion I can make is to use those gel products to help shape it and make it at least look as if you were INTENDING for it to look short and punky. But, I hear ya on the heat and humidity of Houston in the summer! You definitely want to ditch the wig. OMG Heat stroke. Good luck, honey.
I am going to order in more of that Diva Curl stuff I used to use pre-chemo. I ran out ages ago and now I'm thinking my hair really needs it. Off I go to their website.
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