I'd just like to clarify an earlier post I wrote.

I sympathize with those persons who have worked all of there lives and then thru NO FALT of their own become disabled and unable to take care of them selves. I have NO PROBLEM with giving these persons public assistance.

I have NO PROBLEM helping those people who have lost their job thru NO FALT of their own.

I have NO PROBLEM helping those people who have mental and physical disabilities. And am very PROUD AND IMPRESSED that those people take it upon them selves to be productive to the best of their abilities.It doesn't matter to me if they work at Walmart or the neighborhood grocery store.Maybe they don't make enough to support them selves but they are TRYING!

WHAT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH is people who take advantage of the WELFARE SYSTEM! And believe me when I say there are a huge number of people that do that.

IN MY OPINION anyone who can work should work! I don't care if you work at McDonalds. They need to get up off their butts and go to work. Don't expect me to pay for them to sit at home and make babies that they can't feed! I don't want to pay someone else's electric bill or daycare while they find ways to beat the system!

When I show up at 5:30 pm after I've struggled to make it through the day at work post Chemo and Rads and there is some woman standing outside  the daycare chatting with her friends in her pajama bottoms and I hear them talking about how they really are gonna have to start looking for a job soon or loose their benefits and oh my god just couldn't deal with having the kids at home all day and how they should get together and go have a pizza and beer and have time cause the kids can stay at daycare until 6:30 AND THEN I go inside to pay my $225.00 weekly daycare and this same woman is talking to the ADMIN. about how she can't pay her $6.00 a week bill that is 1 month past due....... ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!

I am not sure how BOs mortgage fix is going to help things. First if you bought a home you could afford but it has now gone down in value - you will be able to restructure the mortgage at its "new" value (as long as you have a job and can pay for it). What I don't get is if you have an adjustable rate mortgage you will get a lower interest rate for at least 5 years - isn't this just pushing things off for 5 years? If people were smart they would pay more each month than they have to so that the principal becomes less - but I bet they will just spend the extra money and be in the same boat 5 years from now. Why not give them lower interest fixed rate mortgages? There will still be a lot of foreclosures.

I am soooo tired of people playing the system and the government claiming that they don't have the resources to go after these people. It makes it hard on the people who really need these services and those who do work left footing the bill.

What is all the fuss over the Republican governors who are not all gimmee gimmee over the stimulus money. They want to make sure that before they take any money there are not a half a million strings attached. Some of this money will go into creating new programs. You know - once you create a program it is hard to take it back. They want to make sure they won't be left footing the bill when the fed money runs out or have to provide matching funds that they don't have. The biggest things is - these governors would actually like to read the fricking bill - all 1,000 pages plus before they sign on. I can't believe that Congressman that called them racists.

Finally, someone is telling BO to talk positively about the economy (President Clinton). Yeah, it really makes me want to go out and shop when the President uses the word "crisis" over 20 times in one speech.

Now the transportation secretary wants to tax us by the mile?? Will they remove the federal tax on gasoline - that is probably too much to hope for! I for one would drive even less. 

Its not on active topics anymore.

if vivre is reading today, i got a pm from althea saying she misses you on our alternative thread.

I just came over to see if vivre was here today.  Guess not. 

"Well, it looks to me like all these fine women are moving on. "

KDG, I think you are right.  Rumor has it another board has been set up and only a chosen few have been invited. 

Best wishes to everyone and I hope you survive the chaos that is yet to come.

Audios!

It is regrettable that people got banned. If the mods had done this earlier (made this thread only visible if it was in your favorites) the banning may have been avoided. They tried hiding it by having it show up only in the Active topics and that did not work - people from the other side with too much time on their hands could still come and read and delete posts. If the mods were going to get rid of the thread they would have done so by now. They really need to work on getting the report this post button removed. They should at least be able to review the post first and then punish the people who reported a post that was not offensive. It is too easy to get someone banned by reporting posts just because you do not like the person.

Badboob - yeah, it does not look like the mortgage help is going to do much for those who really need it. The OctoMom story gets stranger every day!

Always, I have tried to PM you a bunch, but it says you are not excepting PM's  I have muy importante info for you

Maria, I still can read the political threads. If you want to know how let me know. I enjoy reading them but dont post much on them. It helps take my mind off bc and get my mind thinking on something else.(I'm not real good at giving directions but will try if you want me to).....Janet

Hi Girls... have been busy ALL day... wanted to check in and say sweet dreams...

Obama Backs BUSH On Bagram Detainees

"The hope we all had in President Obama to lead us on a different path has not turned out as we'd hoped," said Tina Monshipour Foster, a human rights attorney representing a detainee at the Bagram Airfield. "We all expected better."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/20/obama-backs-bush-on-bagra_n_168766.html  

Perhaps he's coming to his senses... one miserable step at a time.

Tax Cuts Start April 1, Obama Says

Gee - $65 per month less taken for taxes. Better bank it...gas prices will be going up again soon.

Hey, I just finally find this place and now everybody is leaving.  Please help me find the greener pastures, because I know it will be brown fields for the next 4 years in Washington!

shokk - Bloomberg is right! At least he's got a brain/enough intelligence to foresee the ramifications of idiotic decisions. BO has no military bckg...and no business sense.

CNN this morning... BO - in an effort to help the deficit - is going to raise taxes for those earning over $250,000 a year! OMG WTH - here he goes again... punish those who are successful. That is so unfair. $250,000 may seem like a ton of money to a welfare recipient, but in reality, it's not considered super rich.

BO - wake up... instead of punishing the responsible and successful workers, CLEAN UP WELFARE - CLEAN UP WELFARE FRAUD... get them off their lazy butts and put them to work for a change. Welfare recipients who are able to work and generational welfare recipients get a free ride and those who have educated themselves and worked very hard to create a successful career are funding their unproductive life styles. They continue to suck up the resources of this country. Start at the bottom of the barrel, BO. Stop expecting the successful citizens to BAIL OUT THE LOSERS. STOP stealing from them. Isn't theft illegal. Oh, that's right... it's okay to steal tax dollars from the successful, but it's NOT okay to stop the fraudulent losers from stealing tax dollars from hard working tax payers. Stop coddling the losers. The cycle continues. If BO really wants to go down in history as a "good" pres... he should put an end to this cycle. HELP ME!

Shokk - Good point. Every action has a reaction... Those in power need to tread very carefully.

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I would like to add... Just FYI - I base almost all of my opinions on statistics... they are indisputable. I cannot think of a more responsible or intelligent way to form an opinion. I prefer to have a positive attitude regarding my opinions. But more often than not... the stats prevent that. The truth is sometimes hard to admit/accept... but change and improvement will never happen if we don't face problems honestly and openly, based on the stats. The positive results of change and improvement create a positive, healthy, fair and productive environment. That's how businesses are run and that's how businesses become successful. If businesses ignore their company stats (good or bad) and do not react in a timely manner, they fail.