The Respectfully Republican Conversation

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I am honored, as the token male on this thread, to be agreed with 1% of the time would be an achievement.  The Resolution Trust worked, I agree, but it worked also by closing things like Silverado S & L and prosecuting the corrupt ones and firing the inept ceo's.  In this case with the bailout, the ceo's are either remaining or getting huge parachutes.  If you create a Toxic Asset Bank, don't leave the weasels in the hen house.  Remake Fannie and Freddie into the toxic holding company.  I have suggested before, to take the foreclosure mortgages and allow the people who own these properties to rebuy the reduced mortgages.  In exchange the "Toxic Bank" would maintain a 50% owner in the appreciable equity of the home.  If the market improves and the owner sells the home is a few years, he gets one half the equity and the bank gets half.  This would be a way to help people stay in their homes without punishing the people who worked hard and made sacrifices to maintain there good loans.  It is not fair that if two people with the same income have the same type mortgage, one eats out and buys new cars and run big bills up and is rewarded with a lower mortgage than the one who did the right thing. 

This way, there would some chance of helping the market by limiting the foreclosure homes hitting the market, and allow for the bailout money to be recouped.  The same thing can be done with new home buyers.  If they are credit worthy, a half equity ownership loan can be used to allow people to buy.  Hell, seems I am becoming a "lets put the government in the banking, insurance and real estate business" kind of person.  How do I get to the other thread? 

I can understand refurbishing the grass on the national mall, but seed costs a small fraction of the cost of sod, and while it takes several weeks for grass to come in as opposed to days to install the sod, what is the hurry...it's the middle of winter.  I suspect that should be an ongoing item in the park budget, not an item in an economic stimulus bill. 

Do you think the grass on the mall might need to be replaced after the masses stomped all over it last week at the "coronation" - didn't they budget for that? Oops - just like the trash removal - let someone else do it and pay for it.

Heard the bill also contains $$ for smoking cessation. Looks like the Dems just want to get all their pork barrel projects through before the "ban' sets in (didn't PBO say that there would be no pork?) They think the people are so stupid we won't notice - after all Rangel said that the middle class is too busy trying to feed and clothe their children to notice anything else (in reference to Reich saying that the infrastructure jobs should NOT go to professionals or white male construction workers). With all the doom and gloom being spouted - yes people are afraid. I just want to know what bridges these non-professionals will be building/repairing so I won't have to drive over them!

This from another favorite writer:

The election and inauguration of the "The One" as president was supposed to make the entire world love America, in what is now the eight-day-old "Golden Age of Obama".

O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma!

You remember all of that hooey.  One of the key reasons Obama's followers insisted he should be our 44th POTUS was because "the world hates America, and we need the world to love us again". And Obama was supposed to be the bridge to that unprecedented, unadulterated lovefest.

Well, people in Yemen with guns never got that message, because they shot at the US embassy there again yesterday, for no apparent reason besides their all-consuming, unquenchable, pay-no-attention-to-whomever-is-POTUS, hatred of America.

Apparently, they're working under directives of two Yemeni Al-Queda members who were held securely at Guantanamo Bay for some time, but were released recently (and immediately returned to Al-Queda as commanders to pick up where they left off).

But, of course the 94 Yemeni terrorists currently being held in Guantanamo Bay's detention facility will never, ever in a million years become Al-Queda operatives or commanders once Obama closes the prison and deports them back to Yemen.

According to Reuters:

Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh said on Saturday he expected the repatriation soon of 94 Yemenis held at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, adding that they would be living with their families at a center to undergo "rehabilitation ... to rid them of extremism" before being released.

Because the plan is for Yemen to send all of those terrorists back home to their families for a spell, before letting them loose into the world again. Considering the fact Al-Queda members tend to be brothers, uncles, cousins, fathers, and sons, recruited from large extended families, sending former Guantanamo Bay detainees to be rehabilitated by living with these people is like sending Liza Minnelli to the Kennedy compound for rehab and detox, with Ted Kennedy as her sponsor and designated driver.

That's zaniness that practically writes itself!

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There's proof right there that if these GIZMO detainees get released, they WILL be just like the pig returning to the mud.  Pigs love mud, they will always go back, it's their nature ... these terrorists have been trained, its been inculcated into their hearts and minds that they are doing the right thing ...  they believe that Allah approves of this. I don't see how "retraining" them is going to change their heart condition.

Isn't it illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender/color?  I understand wanting to include traditionally underrepresented populations in the recovery, but for the government to exclude whole segments of people based on their gender, or color, or level of education seems the wrong way to go about it.

Sherri, Pelosi blamed the October bailout on Reps ... even though the Dems are the ones that were behind this and Reps didn't want it ...  Whatever!!!!!!  The point is, now what?  Obama is supposed to be smarter, better and a good organizer ... let's pray we start seeing some of what he promised:  CHANGE.

Wow have you guys been chatty today. Took me a while to read it all!

Mr Spouse, I think your idea of people buying back their mortgages is brilliant. It sounds much too logical for the pea brains in DC. And to your other comment about RFK, remember that BO's good buddy, the anarchist Ayers, dedicated his commie book to Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin.

Rock,  I too  think the Kennedys are now toast. Caroline showed what a mindless twit she is. People saw her act as if she was better than everyone else, and they did not buy it. I think the clan will now fade into oblivion. No more camelot. And now maybe they can stop proclaiming the new era of Bamalot. No one is going to pay any attention to the Kennedys anymore. They are yesterday's news!

Rock, about the BC. The one thing that I wondered was how was BHO allowed to travel to Pakistan in the 80's? American citizens were not allowed in, and there is no record that he had a US passport? Did he get in on an Indonesian passport? The other theory is that he was adopted by his stepfather. This goes back to the fact that he had to be a citizen of Indonesia to attend the school he went to there. If Obama would just put these facts out there, people would let it rest.

I was listening to the radio in the car today. A congressman from VA was saying that there will be no Repubs in the house supporting the porkuous unstimulus package(RL defininition). He was saying that only about 6cents of every dollar will actually stimulate the economy. The rest is just a spending package. Rush is going to put a link on his website to show where the money is going. I also heard that the Senate vote will be tight too. It is losing support. The republicans know that the dems want them to sign off so they can get equal blame if it fails, which it will. There is no effort here for the dems to have bipartisianship. They just do not want to take the fall all by themselves. Fortunately, the GOP seems to be getting the message. This will be sinking ship that brings back the GOP in 2 years.

That Victor Hansen was spot on. Do we have to expect BHO to go around the world now and apologize for America? That just allows the extremists to have more ammo. They can tell everyone "see, even the American president admits his country is evil". Also, if the fact that we now have a Muslim/Christian president is supposed to make the arab world like us, then why is it that the muslims have been fighting muslims for centuries?

I hope they publicize this petition against Rush. Then maybe the MSM will start telling it the way he actually said it, instead of out of context. I went for a walk with my DH this weekend and he said he could not believe he heard that Limbaugh said he wants Obama to fail. I about lost it! I explained to him that Rush really said he wanted him to fail from putting forth policies that are too liberal. I need to get my husband to stop listening to Brian Williams! LOL

OH - I totally agree Kel...the residents of DC SHOULD pay for it...seems to be a no brainer to me. Give them some make-up remover!

IBCSpouse - Sounds like a great solution...have any of the pols mentioned this as a possibilty?

OKAY - don't rip me apart friends lol...but I am totally against them eliminating contraceptives for the lower income/minority population in this country. OMG OMG OMG... short term thinking... LONG TERM stupidity! I would NO DOUBT prefer my tax $$$ go toward a $10 prescription of the pill than 18 YEARS OF WELFARE, MEDICARE, ETC. Help me!...And... I am a volunteer for neglected and abused children. There are WAY TOO MANY unwanted, neglected and abused kids - and I've heard it over and over again... "I couldn't afford birth control pills." The economy has made the abuse and neglect even worse. In fact...in just the first half of last year, the cases of abuse had doubled from the previous year! It's only going to get worse. We predict that in the first half of this year...it may even triple! 

Whelp...the bill passed the house!

Laura, can I call you goat? (389 or 400)

No I have never hear of this idea from anyone.

Now I am going to make ya'll listen to all my "where does your mine wander to when you can't sleep".  This idea will be toward the country girls. 

There are thousand of miles of a nice straight platform, each between 1/4 to 1/2 mile long,  that sits in the sun year around.  It is used only about 30 times a year.  When it is used it uses either electricity or diesel fuel to run generators.  It is the long central pivot irrigation systems.  Big sprinklers that has one end hooked to a water source (well) and a long raised pipe on wheels that travels in an arc.   If solar panels were mounted on the top of these, you would end up with thousands of miles of solar panels that are already or easily hooked to power lines.  When the irrigation is on, they would provide their on power, when the system is not on, it would be selling electricity back to the power companies.  This would give many more solar panels than the largest solar farms, and It would not require billions to build new power grid, as the incremental addition of each system is already connected to the grid.  Also, they are in the sunniest part of the country, cleared farm land, and would have no negative impact on environment. 

How is this for hijacking a thread...and boring all of you

Rock,

   This was also what I wrote .. Of course ... not all of the pork is necessary and worthwhile. 

    Will the water park in FL create new jobs and revenue?  Will the private owner be paying payroll taxes?  Will venders be able to sell their sodas and candy at the water park?  The owner will have to hire lifeguards, contractors, construction people, sales people, landscape maintenance people, etc. 

    I have no problem with my tax dollars going to create those jobs at the water park.

    I just used the water park as an example.  

    Welfare recipients follow the rules of the individual states they live in.  SSD is a federal goverment program (as you know).  The Breast and Cervical Cancer Screening program (medicaid) here in VA has saved countless women's lives. 

    I agree .. there are likely many people who milk the system.  But, I think they are in the minority.  Lots of middle class folks have lost their jobs all over this country. 

    I believe the National Mall should be maintained.  The Viet Nam memorial, Lincoln memorial and all the other reminders of our national heritage should be preserved.  Again, I wonder how many folks would be able to get jobs for preserving the National Mall. 

   In VA they have a program through the health department where every young woman can get birth control pills, etc., and training in safe sex, screening for STD's, etc. They have to go through this program in order to obtain health benefits.   

   I definitely do not believe people who have not paid taxes should get a tax refund.  I sure don't want my tax dollars going for that.

SHERRI, FOR YOU!

Yep, as far as the republicans voting for the bill..I heard Boehner this afternoon saying absolutely not..not the way it's written.  I bet the dems are madder than h*ll!

Now I need to contact my senators.  This bill is horrible!  And,no , I'm not in favor of the stimulus building a water park...sorry. 

Sherri, our own people who live in this great country has bad mouthed our government all over the globe.  If they bad mouth our government what do we think the world is to believe.  We have freedom of speech.  And I agree...THANKS BHO!  I can't wait to hear what BHO says..nothing I'm sure..LOL

Just to clarify, to laura, in case you jargon was not the same as ours, goat was name we used for GTO s. back in the day when I used to look at them in my rear view mirror of my  SS 396 chevelle

Sorry posted this before I read your post.