The Respectfully Republican Conversation

Shirley

I'm sorry to have gotten you embroiled over there,  I just need to learn that an African American cannot be a racist, a woman can't be a sexist, if I could just find out how as a redneck, I can't be a redneck I'll be OK.

By the way, my wife was in a beauty pagent as a senior in High school,, same reason, to earn scholarship money for college.  As far as I can remember, she has never gotten any royalties from any porn movie, or fees from any photo spread(no pun intended).

So on to next rant as Cam's sleeping while we are still in ER.   Biden said  it's patriotic to pay taxes, since married with children soldiers serving in Iraq will fall below tax line, I understand why Dems hate the military, they feel they are not patriotic.  Also, much like in the Civil War, Rich men when drafted were able to provide money for a suragate.  So money buys patriotism..

I do thank all of you ladies and LuAnnH  for nice words. 

I am supposed to be gone. However......do "we" go over every post looking for someone to be offensive and report them? It wouldn't be hard to do. Do they screen people for their political beliefs before they befriend them? So upsetting.....

WonderfulSpouse, please tell Cam that there are nifty women everywhere praying for her! I just wish my list weren't so long..........

I went to Dancing with the Stars boards to see who got kicked off tonight (too lazy to go down and get video)~~~~there are people there arguing politics!!! AND~~~ads for Senator Obama all over the website. Whatever happened to Campaign Finance Reform? Think of the WEALTH that could have been distributed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Nancy,

  Yes, Obama4President (Amy) is a breast cancer survivor.  She has a very "unique" style of writing her posts, and always has.  I read them with a grain of salt, skipping over certain parts, and attempt to find the meaning separate from the style (in all the threads she posts in).

  The same with my friend OD.  I know her history and understand her deepest fears of Obama's reported associations.  So when things are written about Obama and the possibility of a future dictatorship in the U.S., I understand where that is coming from. There was a report on T.V. last night about the U.S. Cuban population and this fear was reflected in their community, and understandably so.   

  Shirley .. we're all angry.  We're all afraid and concerned for our future and the future of our children.  I have a son in grad school with two children.  His wife is a school teacher with a masters in ed.  They own a small home in S.D.  They can't afford daycare, mortgage, bills, health insurance (theirs is through her school district at $780 a month for the family), school tuition, school loans, etc.  They're buying groceries with a credit card.

  Tim and I can't afford to buy heating fuel.  We're all angry and afraid.  Doesn't matter if we are Dems or Repubs.  I have friends on both sides of the aisle.  Doesn't affect our friendship ... just makes for more conversation between friends.  My republican neighbors can't afford to buy heating fuel either. 

  About IBCspouse ... As a husband of a woman with breast cancer, he has every right to post on BCO wherever he wants.  BTW ... as a dem, I am a supporter of our nations military.  As a teenager in the 60's and a student of the VietNam war and Vietnam prior to the war, I was not a supporter of that war.  It began in the 50's as IBC knows.  I did support our troops, but not the war.  The American Vets charities are the only charities I support and have ever supported.

  As for the media, I think it depends on which channel or publication a person chooses to watch or read.  I'm a dem, but the one I found the most interesting is actually pretty right wing ...  Matthew Kibbe's site.  I don't feel like I'm being mistreated by the media.  I just turn if off they get on my nerves.  Same with reading here at BCO.  If something gets on my nerves, I just skip over it.

gone

McCain 'amazed' by Palin treatment Andy Barr - Politico.com  

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14820.html  

I don't know if your all up on the latest flak going on about CNN Drew Griffin's interview with Sarah Palin yesterday.  He misrepresented what Byron York had written about Sarah Palin to Gov. Palin and it was false.   It's sad they'll go that far.  Here's what York actually said in his piece on Sarah:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjEyMzk3MWU4Yzk1NGQyMWYwZjk0OTcyNmEzYTM5N2E=&w=MA==

Awesome news ibc.  Hope Cam is resting comfortably during chemo. 

IBC - I am so happy for you and Cam! I will continue to pray that cancer stays away.

goodnews ibc, very thankful.

I made the mistake of going over to the other side.............> have got to quit doing that they make me so mad.  To me it is plain as day that Obama is NOT the man to lead our country.  With his musleum background, his church that hates american, his association with terrorist, his belief in abortion and gay marriages.  I could never vote for him.  I think Palin has handled everything with so much class and confidence and am very proud for her to be vice President. I also admire McCain, all that man has lived through, he can get this country on the right path.JMO

Ok, my love of Democrats is now tempered and amy was just a passing crush.  But first, I did go look at the other place to see how they were fairing under the asault of logic from Shirley and Spar.  Do you ladies ware body armor.  I did notice that I only go there to "bully the breast cancer surviors'.  I do think that nicky gives the male gender way to much credit.  For any man especially me to leap into a group of Strong, opinionated, bright women who have looked cancer in the eye and prevailed and try to force them to my will with my bad typing and poor spelling is absurd. (world record run on sentence) I have more faith in women than she does.  I could not bully Cam with a shotgun, and I would not have any respect for her if I could.  It is back to their beliefs, Racism only comes from one side, Sexist can only come from one gender. 

As the ladies said when I posted there, they only know me from reading over here.  I don't go there, even to read.  I raised a daughter, as a child I could tell her, as an adolesent I could discuss things with her, as a teenager she knew everything so no point arguing, 

Question:  Does saying the troops should come home in 16 months for over two years, mean you have always been right, when you get to within 16 months of the war being won.  Cnn and Time are lauding Obama as a brilliant foriegn policy expert because the Satus of Force mirrors Obama's plan, if you get to pick what point in time or what version you want.

From the WSJ:

In both 1933 and 1965, liberal majorities imposed vast expansions of government that have never been repealed, and the current financial panic may give today's left another pretext to return to those heydays of welfare-state liberalism. Americans voting for "change" should know they may get far more than they ever imagined."

Now these newspapers are having second thoughts.  Most of them blindly followed The One, couldn't get enough of him, and finally something is hitting them over the head to wake them up. A little too late.  Ummmm, did we ever say having 2 Houses full of liberals with an ultra liberal President, isn't a good thing?  I guess it's better said now then on Nov. 5th.

Rosemary,

very scary, but true if THAT ONE wins the election!

IBC,

Just wanted to say that is VERY GOOD NEWS about Cam!!!   YAY!!

Hugs

Harley

Harley,

Barney Frank was pretty darned blatantly saying we aint seen nothing yet when talking about raising taxes the other day.  Pelosi is now talking about a $300 billion stimulus package, gone are the days of $150 Bil. She took one look at the polls, and money has started to roll off the presses. 

The democrats have their earmark wish-list already in the making.  Hollywood is planning on taking their money and buying homes in tax-sheltered countries.  Yup, a breath of stale air from the 70's will be coming to a legislative body near us.  Those tried and failed programs from the past are coming back into vogue again.  Stick out your hands everyone, the dems can print that green stuff quicker then we can say...bankruptcy.

Spar2 - Obama is not a Muslim - but it would not matter if he were - I personally have many Muslim friends - some who I would be proud to vote for for President if they could run (not natural born citizens). They have paid a huge price for a few people who have hijacked their religion for their own personal gain. If a few Christians were to start a terrorist organization would that make all Christians guilty? The vast majority of Muslims, like the vast majority of any religion are good, hardworking, honest people who want the same things that you and I want. It should not matter what a candidates religion is.

I am not voting for Obama because I do not like his agenda. I do think he has a tendency to associate himself with some rather unsavory people which calls into question his judgement. I have looked at his Senate record in Illinois and in the US Senate - what he voted on when he did vote and his views do not mesh with mine. I find it also interesting that he "changed" his vote at least six times while in the Illinois Senate. I guess there you can change your vote - your original vote stands but you can later change it to reflect that you hit the wrong button by "mistake". You can read the story about it here: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,713086.story I do not think voters who are voting for him know what he will do once elected. I have been watching and reading about this election for months now and he does not seem to have a firm policy on anything except raising taxes on the rich. What he does not realize is that many of them can quit working or work a whole lot less so they fall into the under $250,000 category. Who is going to pay for all his spending programs? He is supposed to eliminate capital gains on small businesses - this is supposed to sound good - they will pay less taxes - BUT they don't pay capital gains taxes unless they sell their business for a profit!  So say I have a sandwich shop - next year I am approached by Subway which has a store about 1/2 mile from mine- they want to buy my business - under Obama I would not have to pay any capital gains tax on the profit - so if the price is right I could sell my business to Subway - take the profit and run or retire or whatever and not pay any capital gains tax on the profit. What happens to my employees? - they most likely will join the unemployment line because they just bought my customers who now have to go the 1/2 mile to the Subway shop for a sandwich. I can see lots of small businesses being eaten up by big businesses.

Also the tax thing - increasing taxes on the "rich" to give to the not so rich. It is not a tax cut. He will give tax "credits" so that people who are making less than $40,000 a year and do not pay income taxes will get a check from the government each April 15 or thereabouts. Not everyone in this country is motivated to work hard to get ahead. My son has some friends from high school who went to college for a couple of years and dropped out because it was "too much work" and are now living in their parent's basements and they are content to work low-wage jobs and watch TV and play video games. Under Obama they will get even more money for doing nothing so where will the incentive be to get a better job. They will even have healthcare so that incentive will be gone. You know there are a lot of rich people who support Obama - do you think they see CHEAP LABOR in the future. I am sure there will be lots of people who will work for less just so they get those checks. He says that he will let the Bush tax cuts expire on those making over $250,000 - but with the Dems in Congress and with not enough Republicans to have a voice - it will more than likely go down to at least $75,000 - the excuse - with the economic downturn - that is now "rich".

Hi Suz,

   I think some focus should be put on other aspects of Obama's tax plan as well.  I think there is incentive to work hard and get a better paying job.  I have no desire to go out and earn less money so I can get a better refund check.  I need to pay my bills month to month, not buy a new t.v. in April.

  Also, I'm sick of transcribing and working my ass off for bupkas, when the industry has moved overseas.  You know what I'm talking about.  I thought I'd go back to school.  In my area the best paying jobs are social service jobs.  Well, at the local junior college it costs $81 per unit.  That's about $350 per class after fees and books.  Who can afford that.  I can't.  Obama's $4k credit would help me pay for school so I could get a better job with benefits.  Maybe some of the poor people here in the second poorest county in VA could too.

  Another point, with the housing market falling off, now is actually a good time to buy a home for first time buyers with a decent job.  The 30 yr fixed rated is about 5.85% today.  Obama's plan is offering an additional 10% off the regular mortgage interest write-off.  That's a pretty big incentive to work hard and own your own home. 

Just thought I'd take a minute to point out some of the other things in Obama's proposed tax plan.

Bren

PS ... Great news IBC spouse ... so happy to hear about Cam. BTW .. our little buddy's name was "old Panhead"!