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  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited October 2008

    rock~ actually I had told my mom about the "dressing up" that you did and the convo that we had (hope that was ok) then she found this site and sent it to me today. Immediately thought of you lol

    Happy birthday Jean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    dang it... still a tad too early for mascara. I got all excited about new growth and bought my first new tube in well over 7 months......I think I need to wait just a bit longer before using it again. :O(

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2008

    Fedora back atcha, sister.

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2008

    Hey all, rads, hum....dog.a$$.tired too. Just officially finished number 20 and have 10 left. Only doing a total of 30 not 33. My skin is hanging on but pretty pink. 

    Noelle, I agree with Adrienne, your Doc has no bedside manners whatsoever.   That' just wrong. Just a note about herceptin, it's our line of defense for her2+ girls. Our tumors are not not driven by estrogen or progesterone so we can't suppress them with tamoxifin for 5 years. Instead, we have herceptin every 3 weeks for a year. The downside is, it can cause heart problems so we get muga scans frequently to make sure we can continue receiving the benefit of the drug.

    Jen, love the craft projects but can't imagine little brownie troops doing them for a patch.

    Yeah for hair, Otter I counted the weeks in hopes that mine will look like your at 17 weeks. 17 weeks post chemo puts me at Dec. 17. Hair for the holidays!

    Jean-Happy birthday to you! 

    Rads update....they're sending me for occupational therapy starting next week. Looks like they'll be doing ultrasound massage. Sounds lovely....my expander side is so swollen and sore to the touch. I thought I was retaining fluid. The rad onc informed me that its lymph fluid and I need to move it. They want to make sure I learn some massage techniques for home to make sure I minimize the risk if lymphedema. 

    Love to all, gotta catch up with my shows. 

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited October 2008

    Greetings to everyone.  This radiooooooooo rads girl is dog.a$$.tired as well.  Thanks for the birthday wishes.  I am going to dinner tomorrow night, bon fire Saturday night and my family over on Sunday.  As fun as that sounds, I am wondering where my 2 hour naps will fit in. 

    Nicole - It is hard to believe that the doc could be that clueless.  This is hard enough, without needing to remind your primary of who you are, when, etc.  *&^%$.

    Hello to all . . . I need to get to bed but wanted to let you all know that I was thinking of you!  I am looking forward to the day that we all are not exhausted.

    Have a happy Friday.

    Jean 

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited October 2008

    too tired to talk much.

    Rock, I am lucky enough to do tv a lot because my tiny local tv station does a 3 hour long breakfast TV show 5 days a week and is always desperate for people that can handle doing the whole show live on location at 6am.

    A few years ago I got a short spot for a last minute Xmas show and have been called on regularly ever since. I get to do the show about 3-4 times a year or so.I did it once during chemo and we demo-ed our shaving prods on my head. 

     Night all!

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited October 2008

    Jean - Happy Birthday!!  Sounds like a nice weekend - you just tell everyone it's naptime!

    We're going to Fresno tomorrow afternoon.  Katie has another competition (only one more after this one) on Saturday.  Kelly (the little one) is glad to go just because she likes to spend the night in a hotel.  So I may not be around until Sunday. 

    Not as tired today, but still having other weird stuff - mouth issues, inside/bowel issues, occasional hand/feet issues.  Ready for it to all be gone.  Apparently the steriods were providing some fuel for us - I can feel everyone's tiredness.

    Radioooooooo!!!

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited October 2008

    Good Morning Ladies!

    Happy Birthday Jean-hope that you have a wonderful time.

    Taxotere is easier than the FEC, nausea wise.  But my mouth did get very sore and irritated, Magic Mouthwash has taken care of that.  The bone pain was horrible, between the Taxotere and Neualsta. Last week I had a difficult time getting my Onc to give me some stronger pain meds.  She told the nurse (it was lab day so I didn't see the Doc.) to tell me to take the Ibuprofen and Benadryl.  When the nurse came back and told me that, I just broke down and cried and told her (for the second time) that was what I had been takiing, it wasn't working and I would get something, if not from her, from my PCP, but I really didn't want to have to go that route.  I got my script for Vicodin.  (Hey it wasn't like I was asking for morphine!)  Anyway, when I went this week for my visit with my Onc, she gave me a big hug and told me that she was sorry I was having a time with the pain and if I needed more medicine to let her know.   (I had the "rare" but serious side effect of bone pain/muscle weakness when they tried me on Lipitor and Zetia-we tried 5 cholesterol meds before finding one I could take.) Feet are sensitive and fingertips are numb.  Fingernails are discolored.

    Went out last night with a few friends for dinner (first time since May), and it felt so good!  They gave me a small gift and I just about cried.  4 different really good smelling lotions!   You know the sad part is that it is more than what any of my siblings have done for me. (One sister does call and email, the other sister and my brother...who knows, I haven't heard from them since just after I was first diagnosed.)  That's okay, I have all of you.

    Enough for now.  Hope that you all have a great Friday!  

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited October 2008

    Dear Jackie: I feel you, I feel you, I feel you!  My leg & foot pain is normally "only" about a 4 or 5 on a 10 point scale (except at night when it goes up to 7 or 8) but the relentlessness of it can really do a number on the nerves.  I'm tired from rad-fatigue, but I'm also tired from being aware of the pain in my legs 24/7.  I'm glad you pressed them to give you some stronger pain meds...or at least some different ones.   

    I'm also glad you posted because it just occurred to me that if we were talking about say, skin rashes rather than pain, we wouldn't hesitate to say "I need something to treat this" or "Drug X isn't working; please give me something else."  But because it is PAIN, I seem to think I should  suck it up, tough it out, etc.  Which is absurd.  I need to be reminded that Experiencing, Admitting and Treating Pain is Not a Character Flaw, even though that goes against the way I was raised. (I don't feel that way about other's pain, mind you, just my own. It's stupid.)

    As for siblings... I know this does not fix a durned thing but I am just sorry your siblings have not been there for you in the way we'd like to think they could/should/might be.  Not having heard from a brother and sister since diagnosis?  That's disappointing and my heart has an empathetic pang. (I'm feeling a little weird about my family these days. Especially as the holidays approach and I prepare to go home for T-giving where my sister & brother-in-law will spout "family values" and the "importance of family" at every turn.  Trying not to focus on the ways that they've ... I can't even say it ...  Like you, very very very very very grateful for you guys, and for my friends here.  The thing is, my FAMILY are the ones who should be really grateful for you guys too -- and they don't even realize it!)

    I propose we all celebrate Jean's birthday and the ends of rads and surgeries and last chemos and all of our trips across the river by doing something extra nice for ourselves this weekend -- what say?!!!  Who's in?!

    Much love.  rock

    ** Demo-ed shaving products on your head? THAT'S the chemoooooooooooo spirit!

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited October 2008

    Happy Birthday Jean!!

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2008

    Happy birthday, Jean . . . and a fabulous weekend to all.  (I've been quiet lately - busy at work - but continue to think of you all.)

    Linda

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited October 2008

    Happy birthday Jean!!! And what Linda said. And what Rock said.  My family are interstate..so I can't expect too much from them. More phone calls would be nice..but I've been thinking that for 16 years!  I am beginning to get my head around the fact that cancer is actually a bit of an exclusive and private club. And I guess the fear that family feels is also. I'm sharing all those danged pains as well (and got a brand new painful swelling on my wrist last night. grrrrr), but I am starting to FEEL normal..brain-wise and temperament-wise...Drew and I seem to have 'ridden out' the end-of-treatment fall-down, and are back to a pretty easy-going life.

    I do, however, still enjoy playing the cancer-card. Well hell! I EARNED that card! On Thursday afternoons I have a watercolour painting class..paid for by my school. (Cool!) Last Thursday I was early and had my wig on and the teacher was admiring my 'hair'. I went into the full explanation and she was suitably concerned/worried/impressed/affirming..all the things I was seeking! Anyway, part-way through the class I had to duck out to buy a different brush. When I came back the whole class (all older, retired gentle-folk) were fussing and cooing, and rubbing my back..NONE of them mentioned cancer!..and being so lovely! I loved it! And on the Wednesday I was walking around at school doing yard-duty, bin in hand; as I approached the 14/15yo boys they all got up to fly away leaving their rubbish everywhere. I called out to them "That's right! run away! leave it to Cancer Girl to pick up! No..no..I'll be fine!"  What is that??? This isn't permanent is it??

    RanD???Are you (relatively) ok??? XXXX

    Have a great weekend, girls. 

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited October 2008

    wow everyone sleeping in this morning??? get up get upits a purdy day outside!

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited October 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    Im in with Rock on the nice weekend plans. I went to Dallas last night with the 16 year old daughter and watched her play softball. She is in a tournament and staying with her Dad and his girlfriend but I did go to the first game- I missed all the summer while in chemo basically.

    Today we (dh and 2 boys) are going to the Yamboree in a nearby town. I actually want to buy sweet potatoes but they also have a street dance and fiddlers contest etc. Apparently many years ago all the towns in Texas were supposed to find something to celebrate and mnay of these little festivals have continued on. I think it was the year of the Texas centennial or something when it all started- so we have the Yamboree, Rose Festival, Noonday Onion festival, Azalea trails, syrup festival, Bluebonnet festival ..........................

    Hope everyone has a great weekend!

    Kristy

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited October 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    Im in with Rock on the nice weekend plans. I went to Dallas last night with the 16 year old daughter and watched her play softball. She is in a tournament and staying with her Dad and his girlfriend but I did go to the first game- I missed all the summer while in chemo basically.

    Today we (dh and 2 boys) are going to the Yamboree in a nearby town. I actually want to buy sweet potatoes but they also have a street dance and fiddlers contest etc. Apparently many years ago all the towns in Texas were supposed to find something to celebrate and mnay of these little festivals have continued on. I think it was the year of the Texas centennial or something when it all started- so we have the Yamboree, Rose Festival, Noonday Onion festival, Azalea trails, syrup festival, Bluebonnet festival ..........................

    Hope everyone has a great weekend!

    Kristy

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited October 2008

    I'm up!  But it is kinda cool here in KY.  Had to put something on my head to keep it warm!

    Rock-thanks for understanding.  You always seem to have the right thing to say.  The last time I spent a holiday with any of my sibs was 9 years ago, just after our little brother passed away.  I went to OH to spend Thanksgiving with his children.  (And the sis that I never hear from-she can come to me from now on!)   

    Going to a surprise birthday for my MIL today.  (Pitch in dinner-hoping for some good food!)

    Happy Weekend Ladies!

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited October 2008

    We are going to my son's school today for a pumpkin festival. He has talked about it all week till he is blue in the face. It's only for a few hours, probably all I can handle of that many rugrats anyway. Then off to buy a furnace filter..... may have to turn on the heat for a moment or two later... kinda chilly here as well.

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited October 2008

    Its been chilly here.  We turned our furnace on last week...boohiss.  We'll be getting our pumpkins this weekend.  Back when all the kids were still at home we'd have a pumpkin carving night and we'd end up with 6-8 beautifully carved pumpkins.  Now that they are all gone (except for our little guy)...we're lucky to carve 2.  Perhaps we'll do a few more this year.  Its a ton of fun.

    I hope everyone has a great weekend!

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited October 2008

    Good morning all!  Thanks again for the birthday wishes - I agree with Rock, we should all be celebrating this weekend.  After a long work week, I had a quiet dinner out last evening which was perfect.  Today I am out for a morning run, then broomball, then dinner and a bon fire. 

    Gracie - I was sad to read about the lack of support from your siblings.  My sister has been so awesome, it broke my heart to read that.  I hope you know that all of us on this board are your "sistas" and we think and pray for you daily - and are truly concerned for how you are doing.

    I woke up with terrible bone pain this morning and I assume that the neulasta shot gets credit for that . . . just a small reminder of the chemo days. 

    It is 64 and sunny here in MN and I am going out to enjoy it all! 

    Jean

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2008

    Happy birthday Jean!

    Sorry, all, that I am only posting pretty much on the weekends now, but rads and work combined, kicked me in the nether regions.  Still taking a nap every day, and dealing with a pretty impressive burn.  I started using pure cocoa butter on it yesterday, and that seems to help. Smells really good, too.  I used it during my pregnancies to prevent stretch marks (and I don't have any)...when I put it on yesterday my dh told me I smell pregnant. ;O)

    Church Fall Festival and Auction tonight.  With dinner.  We go every year and have gotten some fantastic bargains over the years.  I had promised Christmas pillows and placemats (I'm a quilter) but didn't get them done.  Actually, didn't even get them started.  It's the first year I have promised and not delivered.  I guess they will just have to understand.

    You know, it's weird, but I find myself loving myself a lot better than I did before cancer.  Isn't that interesting?  I had self-esteem problems going back to high school, grew up with an alcoholic father with all the attendant issues, dealt with sexual abuse (and had treatment)....all that seems so small now.  It definitely showed me what was important, having cancer.  And it showed me what I have, and how blessed I am.  As for siblings, one was attentive and one was not.  The one who was and is attentive, we were estranged before cancer, and now we are not.  So that is very good. The other one, we are there for each other in crises, but there has never been a lot of contact otherwise.  She called me three or four times during chemo, which is a lot for her.  It is very, very good to have all of you here.  You have saved my sanity on several to many occasions!

    Something fun this weekend, huh Rock?  Well, the festival and auction today, and hanging my covers on the line to dry tomorrow---I have a boring life, don't I?  Oh, I know, I will go the expensive grocery store on Sunday, where I can get clean food, how exciting is that?  Seriously I will try to think of something to do just for me on Sunday, and let you know what it was.

    Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.

    Love,

    Sue

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2008

    Yamboree?  I love it!  I wish we had a yamboree around here. 

    After much procrastination, I finally went to see a lymphedema therapist this past week, to get a baseline assessment and learn more about prevention.  I wish I'd done it sooner.  (What I really wish is that my surgeon -- the guy who rolled his eyes when I asked about a sleeve for air travel -- referred all patients with node dissections to a therapist, instead of just telling us, "oh, yes, you're at risk of lymphedema for the rest of your life . . . what percentage? . . . oh, we don't know, but it's significant . . . wow, you're healing beautifully, who the heck did that incision, huh?")

    It was reassuring to have my hand and arm assessed and measured, and being told that they looked great (maybe a tiny bit of edema in my upper arm, but nothing alarming).  And while I knew the basics of prevention, it was really, really helpful to have someone talk with me about them. She also tipped me off about which local medical supply place does the best job fitting patients for sleeves and gauntlets.  (Hint: it's not the one I went to for my panicky, oh-my-god-I'm-flying-on-Friday sleeve purchase last April.) 

    Special weekend plans?  Well, I'm running the anchor leg of a 5-person marathon relay tomorrow.  Should be fun: I get the excitement of a marathon finish without the pain.

    Sue, your comments on loving yourself better after cancer are very touching and, I think, very true. 

    Linda

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited October 2008

    Wow! I'm loving myself more as well, and I'm loving this Fall-quiet philosophical change of pace on this thread and I'm loving my new dog (who is loving me enough to wag her tail at me today!!) and I am especially loving my seestahs.Kiss It is around 18C here..I'm really going to have to learn the conversion to F!  Out the back of my house there are ducklings and plover chicks..they are s-o-o-o cute, and just the thing for a Cancer Girl easing her way out of 18 weeks of chemooooooo. 

    When we talk about festivals here, we are 99% talking music and alternative arts. We are into the the spring/summer music festival season...I'm kind of over that scene by about 25 years and I'm VERY over the drugs that go with it now that I know a thing or two about REAL drugs!Laughing I'm fascinated by the festival names over there: Yambouree, Noonday Onion!!

    Did any of you read Bill Bryson's 'walking tour' of England before he returned to the US for good? I actually laughed out loud through the whole thing, but it was the chapter listing the names of places that made me pee myself. Earlier this year I read 'That Ole Ace in the Hole', (Annie Proulx) and really enjoyed the Texan pictures and sounds I got in my head as I read it. As a result of being a May O'Eight,for the first time in my life I'm getting interested in bits of the US, and Texas is one of them..perhaps because where I come from it's so big and flat and rural (I am guessing that Texas is flat..pardon my ignorance of these important details!)

    Lewing, I am so impressed by your running biz. I dream about SOME level of fitness..walking the dog (Phoebe, Freebie, Heebie-Jeebie, Fleabag, Feeble...any more helpful name-suggestions?..I'm calling her Reebie which will morph into Ruby by Wednesday) twice a day will start that long hard road! And thanks for the tip re getting measured and getting serious about LE..I needed a kick-start on that one as well.    XXX Kerry

    ps WHAT did I just do the formatting??Embarassed 

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited October 2008

    Maybe I'm just a worrywart...Randie hasn't posted in a while.  Has anyone heard from her?

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited October 2008

    We bought a 4 wheeler today- a little one, a 250- for fun around the house and for the guys to take deer hunting.

    28 pounds of yams from the Yamboree0 sweet potato recipes- HERE I COME!!!

    Kristy 

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited October 2008

    Randie hasn't posted since October 11th, her initial post about the lymph nodes.  I'm worried too.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited October 2008

    Me, too (about Randie).  She hasn't logged on since October 13th, which is nearly a week ago.  I sure hope she's doing okay.  Has anybody heard from her via pm or email?

    otter 

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2008

    Haven't heard from her. Let's just hope she's getting plenty of R & R after surgery. Linda, I'm seeing the Occupational therapist on Tuesday for my assessment. I'm really excited about it since the rads has caused swelling under my incision and its quite sore to sleep on. God I hate my expander!

    I've been fortunate with my siblings that they've been here for me but we weren't very close until my Mom passed seven years ago. We suddenly have found each others company quite comforting. Sometimes, not matter unfortunately the situation, its takes some hardship in life to find the real love and support from others that we so wish for. And I agree with all my sisters, here. We will always be here for you and just wish I could do more to comfort you. Hot chocolate and a good movie to crawl up to?

    Everyone;s weekend plans sound amazing. I enjoyed time at my nephews last high school football game and enjoyed my 15 minutes of unprotected sun. Need the extra vitamin D you know. 

    Looking to have my eyebrows done, they're growing like weeds.

    Did anyone catch the special last night called Living Proof on Lifetime about Dr. Solomon, the creator of herceptin? I have it recorded and can't wait to watch it. I have goosebumps just thinking about it. I want to personally give him a big squeeze of thanks.

    By the way, are you all sick of PINK!!!!! I thinks its a bit overload for me personally....

     

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2008

    Jean, love the new avatar!

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2008

    Sick of pink . . . oh, yeah.  My marathon relay was this morning, which meant I had to be downtown around 6 am.  Driving in, I looked up and there it was -- the windows on the Blue Cross/Blue Shield building were lit up to form a giant pink ribbon. 

    About eyebrows . . . when those things start to grow, they really GROW.  I now know what Noelle was talking about when she referred to "mutant curly eyebrow hairs":  I think I have some of those, too.  (But I'm loving it.)  Also, I got a tutorial in eyebrow-making from a Sephora saleswoman yesterday.  Two words: powder and wax.  The right color helps, too.  And a special angled brush.  And -- most important of all -- being willing to shell out $30+ for supplies. 

    Kerry, it's so funny that you'd ask about Bill Bryson.  I haven't read any of his books, but I feel as though I have.  He's a fave of my daughter's, and after her own laughter dies down, she'll read passages -- sometimes whole pages -- to me.

    Randie, I hope you're getting some quality recuperation time.  Hope to catch up with you soon.

    Linda

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited October 2008

    My eyebrows are wild too- just in time for my eyelashes to fall out LOL- so I have bushy eyebrows and tiny baby eyelashes coming back. I went to church commando this morning- told someone I had as much hair as Barack and more than McCain so if they can go without a hat----so can I.

    Total meltdown in church this morning :(     Guess I needed to cry! I missed the potluck because I just wanted to be alolne- but they loved my sweet potato casserole with my yams from the yamboree!

    Going to take a nap!

    Kristy

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited October 2008

    Catching up...catching up....Happy belated b-day Jean.

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