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Lindamemm:
Just want to remind you that it was the U.S. border patrol that admitted the 9/11 terrorists into the U.S., and that they received their flight training at a U.S. facility. A little less blaming Canada would be appreciated.
And, if Canada had had the U.S.'s overly strict entrance requirements back then, how many planeloads of Americans and others would have had to keep flying on 9/11 until they ran out of fuel looking for a place to land?
Regards,
(Another) Linda
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Great history of mortgage meltdown and dems culpalbility on fox..."Saving Our Economy:What's Next"
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It now looks good that the Senate will gain the magic number of 60 democrat seats in November. Lovely. No checks and balances should Obama win, and think of all those earmarks out of the ying-yang.
"The Democrats currently control both the House and Senate and barring some extreme unforeseen circumstances will not only continue to hold, but most likely increase their margins of control. Barack Obama has the most liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate. Most far left liberal policies are not terribly popular with American voters, but if the Democrats control the White House and all of Congress, voters will have essentially given them a blank check to do just about anything they want. One only has to look at the extreme liberal voting record of Barack Obama, as well as the liberal agendas and records of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to see what they can expect in an Obama presidency.
It should be obvious to voters that an Obama presidency along with a Democrat-controlled Congress would result in the most liberal policies many of us have seen in our lifetimes or imagined in our wildest nightmares. Add to that the very real possibility that a President Obama would appoint two or three Supreme Court judges. There would be virtually no check on the power held by liberal Democrats and they would feel emboldened by the election to claim a mandate for anything they proposed.
This is a scenario that should frighten all but those in the most extreme left wing of the Democrat Party, but I don't think it is a scenario that most voters have really considered. Those in the media are not going to write or talk about Obama's extreme liberal voting record, just as they have not, and will not, investigate his associations with the likes of domestic terrorists, slumlords, and fat cats that fleeced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It is up to the McCain campaign to draw that picture for the voters."
The above is from Townhall.com
They've taken the kid gloves off of Palin today. She is reminding the voters of who William Ayers is. The Obama/Ayers relationship will not be discussed by the press unless either McCain or Palin make it a point. Which, finally, they are doing. Now the press will be forced to discuss it.
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In case there are any with blinders on about how close the Obama and Ayers (the terrorist) friendship was and probably still is for all we know, this is a reminder:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html
"The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC"
How easily they lie. Nope, hardly know him, kids went to the same school. Just a neighbor. He was bombing and killing people when I was only 8....
The funny part of it all, I understand this is the only organization Obama ran in his entire career, and it failed. He wants to run our country. That's hilarious.
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The head of the LA chapter of National Organization for Women has just endorsed Gov Palin @ campaign rally. Not speaking for NOW or her chapter she said but as an individual. " This is what a feminist looks like," she just before handing it over to SLP.
Serafin Gomez
Producer, FNC Political Unit
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Even the New York Post is calling them Biden Lies.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10042008/postopinion/editorials/the_lies_biden_told_132104.htm
"At some point, Americans have to wonder: Is this a fellow who should be a heartbeat away from the White House?"
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Hello to you all over here --------------------------------> You know me from over there <-----------.
Just dropping by to say hello to my friends here. Linda - I made Minestrone soup yesterday from scratch. No recipe, just put in this and that. The house had a wonderful smell all day. I just want to thank all of you, cause even though Im on the other side, I have learned so much and I love coming here to read what most of you have to say. Now its time for me to go back over there <----------------------.
Nicki
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Everything you wrote appears to be true, Rosemary, per one of those "Washington Insiders"...especially the part about how far left Obama is. The Insider says we'll all be living in France.....
Another thing to worry about is "card check", which will be passed as soon as new Congress convenes. Google it......
<----------------------------------Be careful what you wish for..............
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----------------------> What the heck is card check lol?
Nicki
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Pansy...card check...do you mean unionization of employees?
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Yes, card check means unionization of all employees.
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Some people shouldn't have access to microphones, but they do. I was listening to a lady on a local radio station talking about why we shouldn't vote for our Senators, CORNING, and Kay Bailey this Nov. Basically because they voted yes on the bail-out bill.
Hutchison is not running this year. She didn't know that. Corning, is Cornyn. In the bail-out package there happens to be some legislation that the Senate didn't get to pass during their 2008 session. Quite a bit of legislation that didn't get voted on. That's why we are seeing so much "pork" in the bail-out bill. The dummy on the radio didn't know that some of that "pork" happens to give Texans a tax break on their federal taxes because we pay more in home taxes because we don't have a State income tax. So the State makes it up on higher land taxes, and the Fed's give us a break for that. That break is worth $534 per home.
You all get that break because your State taxes are deducted from your Federal taxes. We won't get it unless the gov't gives it to us. This is for any State that doesn't have a State income tax, not just Texas. I could have called the lady and set her straight, but instead I figured she was right, we shouldn't vote for Kay Bailey this year... and I won't. I guess anybody can have a radio show.
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Hello all,
OK, here we are just a few days away from election day and it's going to get ugly this week. As a Hilary supporter, I have listened to both parties and the truth is both Obama and Palin scare me.
I guess the big question is... who scares me more? I have to say...Obama really, really scares me. He has had very strange acquaintances and when called on it he always has a cleverly drafted response all leading to how he is no longer acquainted to that individual. Interesting!!!! I am from the old school that believes we attract people who are like us and we are judged by the friends we keep.
For me, the biggest concern is who on their right mind would want to sit with third world terrorist or dictators for a civil conversation during time of war or ever?!
Yes, Palin scares. I think McCain made a mistake in picking her. But, truth is she is running for VP. Obama wants to be our president. Yikes!!!! His campaign is starting to sound very much like a dictator/terrorist campaign...they play on peoples fears to gain power and then...surprise!!!!That is it! I am voting for McCain. He knows what is like to face the enemy, he has fought for this country and has sacrificed himself for our freedom. What has Obama done? I think the democrats made a bigger mistake in picking Obama.
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Good analysis by Fred Barnes at The Weekly Standard.
I hope the Passionate Warrior shows up Tuesday night----
Obama's attack plan is to paint him as angry, old, irrational, warmonger
McCain has to show up as the passionate fighter he is on Tuesday
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The Warrior and the Priest
The revealing campaign styles of John McCain and Barack Obama.
by Fred Barnes
10/06/2008, Volume 014, Issue 04John McCain, restless and emotional, couldn't resist the temptation to join the battle to rescue our financial markets and save the economy. It was the biggest and most important fight around, bigger and more important than his campaign scrap with Barack Obama. Being engaged in the action--in the arena--is where McCain always wants to be. So he cast his presidential campaign aside, temporarily, and headed back to Washington. The campaign could wait. It might even benefit.
Obama, placid and professorial, had a different reaction to the fight over the bailout. Even before McCain's maneuver he'd rejected the idea of putting his campaign on hold and joining the legislative battle. He'd be available if needed. An abrupt change in plans, a sudden shift, is not his style. His campaign would go on. He returned to Washington reluctantly. If he hadn't, his campaign might have suffered.
The contrast here is not only dramatic. It's unusually revealing about the two candidates and how they might act as president. There's an analogy that captures the difference: the warrior and the priest. McCain the warrior, Obama the priest. (If "priest" seems confusing, substitute "professor.")
McCain has been a player in every major fight, in war and in Washington, for more than four decades. As far back as 1962, he waited in Florida as a Navy pilot for the order to attack during the Cuban missile crisis. (The order never came.) As a senator, he's never stayed on the sidelines. As a candidate, he likes the rough-and-tumble and unpredictable turns of town hall meetings.
Obama prefers set speeches delivered with the aid of a teleprompter, a reflection of his more aloof and less engaged approach to politics and policy. In Democratic primary debates, he tended to be passive. Where McCain is an activist, Obama is more a visionary. As a senator, he's involved himself only on the fringes of big issues.
Long before the McCain-Obama race, the warrior and the priest comparison was applied to Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson in a book by John Milton Cooper Jr., a history professor at the University of Wisconsin. The Warrior and the Priest was published in 1983 and was not widely acclaimed, but it's become a cult classic.
Cooper described Roosevelt, the warrior, as "exuberant and expansive," a man who "epitomized the enjoyment of power." He gained fame "through well-cultivated press coverage of his exploits as a reformer, rancher, hunter, police commissioner, war hero, and engaging personality." And TR was "associated conspicuously and consistently with one issue above all others--war." Sounds like McCain.
Wilson, the priest, was "disciplined and controlled," Cooper wrote. "He seemingly embodied a less joyful exercise of power." Until he ran for office, Wilson was "a spectator and a bystander." Roosevelt was a "tireless evangelist for international activism," but Wilson had "a more pacific vision." His entry into politics at the highest level was created by his reputation as "a widely regarded public speaker." Obama isn't Wilson personified, but he comes close.
The contrast in style between McCain and Obama is a significant dividing line in the campaign--and not just in last week's bailout battle. In electing a president, Americans choose a person, not a party leader. Personal traits--character, likeability, temperament, public style--matter.
Since Obama captured the Democratic nomination last June, he and McCain have taken strikingly different approaches as candidates. McCain challenged Obama to ten town hall debates over the summer. Obama declined, recognizing these unscripted events favored McCain's mercurial style of campaigning.
Then McCain, like a general changing his tactics on the fly, picked Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his running mate. This surprise move unnerved Obama and his campaign staff, and they spent several unproductive weeks taking potshots at Palin.
McCain likes surprises and gambles. When his campaign was at its low point in 2007, he rebuffed the advice of his senior advisers and went on what he called a "no surrender tour," defending the unpopular war in Iraq. His gamble paid off when the surge reduced violence and brought the war to the verge of victory today.
Obama, on the other hand, doesn't like quick changes or taking risks. His campaign, like the man himself, has been a picture of steadiness and careful planning. He played it safe by picking Joe Biden as his running mate. He took a chance--a small one--when he flatly rejected McCain's call to postpone their scheduled debate last week. He prevailed.
McCain's skill at changing direction has spurred him to seize Democratic themes as his own. He portrays himself as the real candidate for change in the election. On the bailout, the traditional Democratic position would be to rail against the excesses and corruption of Wall Street. But the ever-cautious Obama hasn't lambasted Wall Street. McCain has.
In his acceptance speech at the Republican convention in August, McCain stressed that he's a fighter. "I don't mind a good fight," he said. "I fight for Americans. I fight for you." This amounted once again to the theft of a reliable Democratic trope.
But McCain has voiced the "fighting for you" refrain only intermittently since the convention. This is a mistake. He doesn't have to worry about Obama, who is too finicky to exploit the theme relentlessly. But "fighting for you" fits perfectly with McCain's pugnacious persona. It's a warrior's message. In 1912, Roosevelt and Wilson met in the presidential race. The priest won the election. But there was a complication that hampered TR. There was another candidate, Republican president William Howard Taft, who finished third. Absent Taft's presence, the warrior would have won. McCain ought to keep this in mind.
Fred Barnes is executive editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
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Odalys,
I like the way you reasoned that out and came to the correct conclusion. Palin doesn't scare me or worry me. There's something about her that says don't fool with me and I don't under estimate her. I think in times of trouble, she could just stare down her enemy. Most of the country likes her so much they've now turned on Couric for asking dumb questions when she had a chance to find out who the real Sarah Palin is. Her loss.
We have early voting here, so I'm counting down the days when this election will be over. Though I wonder what we all will be talking about later.
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In Obama's phone negotiations to get the Black Caucus members to vote for the bail out he put at rest their concerns about minorities not getting enough relief on foreclosures. He told them once he is elected, the bailout bill will give his Sec of Treasury the power to re work mortgages. Not only interest or terms, but principal, without limit. Yhis means 200k loans can be rewriten to 0. That sounds like a plan to protect the taxpayers 700billion dollar investment. (not).
If this happens, i would strongly suggest a nation wide stike.. every body with house payments or rent, should stop making payments. A few thousand people doing it will get foreclosed on, 100 million people stopping house payments, would get their attention.
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As we get closer to election day, I'll bet Obama already has a list of potential cabinet members.
Director of Homeland Security: William Ayers. Dept. of Energy: Nancy Pelosi. Dept of Treasury: Barney Frank. Dept. of Housing: Chris Dodd. Dept. of Transportation: Harry Reid. Dept. of Education: Rev. Wright. Office of Management and Budget: Tony Rezko. Dept. of Defense: None needed, we dismantled our nukes and Obama is calling all the shots.
Other positions will be announced after all scandals and bail-outs are complete.
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This is interesting:
Lawmaker Accused of Fannie Mae Conflict of Interest Friday, October 03, 2008By Bill Sammon
WASHINGTON - Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank's efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.So did Frank's partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency's push to relax lending restrictions.Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank's relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie's assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical."It's absolutely a conflict," said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. "He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?"If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what's not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane," added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. "But everybody wants to avoid it because he's gay. It's the quintessential double standard."A top GOP House aide agreed."C'mon, he writes housing and banking laws and his boyfriend is a top exec at a firm that stands to gain from those laws?" the aide told FOX News. "No media ever takes note? Imagine what would happen if Frank's political affiliation was R instead of D? Imagine what the media would say if [GOP former] Chairman [Mike] Oxley's wife or [GOP presidential nominee John] McCain's wife was a top exec at Fannie for a decade while they wrote the nation's housing and banking laws."Frank's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress."I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus," Moses wrote in the Washington Post in 1991. "On Capitol Hill, Barney always introduces me as his lover."The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. According to National Mortgage News, Moses "helped develop many of Fannie Mae's affordable housing and home improvement lending programs."Critics say such programs led to the mortgage meltdown that prompted last month's government takeover of Fannie Mae and its financial cousin, Freddie Mac. The giant firms are blamed for spreading bad mortgages throughout the private financial sector.Although Frank now blames Republicans for the failure of Fannie and Freddie, he spent years blocking GOP lawmakers from imposing tougher regulations on the mortgage giants. In 1991, the year Moses was hired by Fannie, the Boston Globe reported that Frank pushed the agency to loosen regulations on mortgages for two- and three-family homes, even though they were defaulting at twice and five times the rate of single homes, respectively.Three years later, President Clinton's Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today's economic crisis."I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac," Clinton said recently.Bill Sammon is FOX News' Washington Deputy Managing Editor. -
Let's see if I understand his. Barney Frank, the head of the banking committee was sleeping with Herb Moses, the asst Director of product initiatives at Fannie.
I'm floored. And the Banking committee is suppose to be overseeing Fannie. Plus, the thought of those two.... I'm never going to be able to sleep tonight or maybe not for a week.
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Rosemary...love your cabinet line-up. Five acres way way out in the country where there is only dirt road access and no postal delivery, totally anonymous is looking real good if the worst (his lordships coronation) happens!
And on Frank and Moses...."while visions of sugar plums danced in their heads"... what a joke they are all turning out to be.
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My eyes! My eyes!........wait I will close them..............oh crap I can still see them even with my eyes closed............Shokk
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Paulette,
I'm thinking of Ireland ------------------------> Where there is only 11% tax on capital gains. A place where business thrives and workers ...work. In the next few years, I'll probably be seeing all our corporate headquarters there.
Something tells me every January when tax returns are mailed out, the Obama crowd will find you. You will have to pay your fair share and then some.
Shokk, I didn't think there was ever going to be something that beat seeing J. Edgar Hoover in a dress, but I was wrong. Just live long enough, and there's Barney and Moses doing the hokie pokie. And that's the end of breakfast.
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Rosemary - all is not well in Ireland either - http://www.finfacts.com/irishfinancenews/article_1014898.shtml This recession is global. Oh yes, the Obama crowd will find you at tax time - why didn't you know it is PATRIOTIC!
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Suz,
If this economy is handled well in the future, and we've seen what the Dems did to us to get us here, then there is hope if McCain can get in to end out of control spending, and not raise taxes on businesses. Just look around at what you couldn't live without, and those will be the first companies to come back. PC's come to mind, cell phones, cable. Imagine going back to just watching CBS, NBC, and ABC news? I couldn't do it. I'd find the money. Alcohol, always seems to do well, especially in a market downturn.
Bob Beckel was giving himself a hernia over Palin's comments about Bill Ayers this past weekend. The Obama email that was sent out is telling all his bloggers to talk about Keating 5. They say the Keating ads have been in the works for awhile so it might not exactly be a defensive move to offset the long friendship of Ayers and Obama. They were planning to do it anyway, but they surely need it now.
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Rosemary--As indicated by the above link, the same ridiculous real estate boom, based on absoluely nothing, happened in Ireland as well as here. Most of my extended family live in Donegal, one of the least populated counties in Ireland, far to the north, yet my relatives when I last visited were talking of spending 60,000 euros (about $100,000) for a small parcel of land on which to build a house, and existing houses were selling for nearly a half million dollars. It was ridiculous when one looks out and sees nothing but vast stretches of barren land (and when I say barren, I mean no trees, just bogs). The Irish were getting into the same mindset as many of us here--very self congratulatory on how clever they were in promoting the Celtic Tiger boom. Bubbles are just that, nothing inside. The Irish will now have to cope, as we will, with acknowledging that fast money goes just as quickly as it comes. An 11% tax on gain doesn't help if there's no gain.
I can't live without food, shelter, clothing, and health care. You'd be surprised how quickly you'd get rid of cable if you had to cut back on any of the above necessities. And Cable--would you really miss MS-NBC, CNN, Fox and all those other talking heads, and all those lifetime movies. We have lots more channels than in the past and most of the programming is a cultural wasteland. Cell phones--honestly you really couldn't live without one? I never purchased one, other than in Italy for emergencies, don't miss having one, and how I wish everyone else would turn theirs off.
And I can't help thinking if that train engineer in California hadn't had a cell phone, some 25 people would still be enjoying life. Some necessities really aren't necessary for a good life.
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Well Anne,
There you go, you named things you must have. Mine was just a list of must have for some. I only keep a cell phone to help my son's business now and again. I refuse to use it in a car, so it stays home. Your forgetting Weeds, must see TV.
My list was to make people think of what are must haves and those companies will be back and flying high again. I still want to buy a Wii. I consider it healthy for every age. It's a must have. But the language when I miss a tennis shot.
Up until recently, Ireland had a 4.1% unemployment rate. Not everyone wants to get up in the morning and actually go to work, and they have low business taxes that entice our companies away. There are opportunities awaiting for those of us who care to look for them. We'll just have to have patience to wait this out and hope we don't elect someone with plans to make them far worse. Oh, one more item on my list of good investments: Car part companies. No one wants to buy a new car, guess what they'll be needing.
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I hope so too! That is, not making things worse, but that, of course, is in the eyes of the beholder. You guys think McCain, the others Obama; I don't think either. Entropy is at play and things will be as they will be! The market is down again today, and Paulson now has our $700 billion.
One thing I do remember, very clearly. When I was in graduate school I was poor. I lived on a small scholarship and had absolutely no money for luxuries, and often no money for necessities. When my sister visited, she'd bring me a few rolls of toilet paper and usually a container of milk. I was so happy back then. I'd come home after classes with stacks of books, put them on the side of the couch, put up my feet and read everything I'd never had time for previously. I was really skinny--just had enough for the basics; I also had no health insurance and that did make me nervous, but the few times I had to see a doctor I went to a clinic. That was a bit difficult on the pride at first, but it got easier.
I leave school, find a really good job making well more than what I lived on in school, then an even better job, and on up the American ladder of success. By the time I was making really good money, I was spending most of it on clothes--suits and shoes, lots and lots; I never had time to cook so out to eat almost every night. Champagne was my preferred drink, so I gained many pounds, most of which I still own, had no time to read or do any of the things I really cared out.
Now that I'm retired and back to living on something similar to what I had in graduate school, I'm happy once again. The only jeans that I really like have paint on the knee but I wear them all the time, even out in the street on occasion. No doubt, I look like a bag lady, but I don't care. I can blog for however long I want, read for however long I want, and, of course, write when I stop procrastinating. I really am so much happier not competing for more and more material things, for that allusive status of success. I sincerely believe that many people (not the ones who are just making ends meet although there are too many of those) get caught up in the "must have" economy and have no idea how little one really needs to be happy and satisfied. Why would any person, any where, need a billion or even a million to be happy. I knew very few pleasant people when I was in business, and found most of the people I met in Maine, mainly clerks in stores, roofers, carpenters to be so much more pleasant than the high powered executives I knew in the City. In fact, most of the executives I worked with were distinctly unpleasant and rarely cared for anything beyond their careers.
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Anne,
I don't think our economic woes will be fixed by upping taxes on businesses. Common sense tells us so. Unless Obama does some last minute, ooops talk, and gets closer to McCain's story line, he is going to get us into one hell of a fix. Then he'll have to take it on the chin for flip-flopping again, and I expect people will see the light and vote for McCain and we can get on with fixing this mess..
I can't say I was happier back in the past or today. I loved going to work. There I was the happiest. I couldn't wait to wake up in the morning and get going. I've been blessed with a good attitude so yesterday, today and tomorrow feel the same for me.
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My common sense says tax them!
I assume you are not one of those unpleasant types I spoke of! But I certainly knew enough of them--all millionaires, no doubt today some of them billionaires (billions is the new millions I gather), and making the lives of everyone around them miserable as well. I hated the business world and am so happy to have learned in time that Anne Klein suits do not happiness make.
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