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Hmmm....the way I took AnneShirley's comment "Probably won't happen with the Republican women!" was that we wouldn't leave a message on that board saying that we "don't support Palin's policies just hate the sexism", and I daresay she's right!!
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Paulette "Above my pay grade" makes reference to Obama's comment that he would not take a stand on when life begins because it was above his paygrade.
anneshirley, Thanks for the info. I too am happy to see that dem. woman are backing Sarah as a woman. Us repub. woman were appalled by the way Hillary was treated by the press, but that pales in comparison. They always left Chelsea alone. They still treat her with kid gloves. This is disgusting. They are talking about a couple of teenagers! I just hope this whole thing backfires on the press. I actually think her job will be easier as VP than as gov. Lucky girl, she will not have to clean the house or shop for groceries. What a luxury. It would be such a joy to be able to spend all the fun time with our kids, but not have to worry about all the mundane stuff. I will definitely go to the website you gave us.
I agree with your comment Sherri. I have never been able to understand why woman would support a guy like bill who cheated over and over. Even my 80 year old MIL, a staunch republican, said that she might have supported Hillary if she had walked out on the bum. I think if she had, she would be the nominee today.
Voters will not be fooled by all this nonsense. Remember, the reason that Obama won in a landslide in Illinois was because the republicans were so mad at their own party. The party brought in an outsider instead of the one chosen in the primaries. This was all brought about because the Obama campaign dug up some sludge on both his dem and GOP competition, but we did not know his hand in it at the time. People voted for OBama just to send a message to their own party, that they will not be manipulated. Maybe the Hillary voters will do the same.
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Not that it matters, but with one child in the army, and one getting married (and, I assume, setting up house on their own) Sara will only have three children at home to care for. They make it sound like she's got 5 kids under the age of 6!
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Paulette,
Obama was referring to that he can't answer that question about abortion because he is not God. Very glib considering his stand on abortions and babies born alive during one.
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My mother and father had 6 kids, so I guess my mother couldn't be the vice president either. She worked 36 years at the same company all during the time we were growing up. I'm sure there are millions of stories like mine, and yet we have to hear such garbage from the press about Palin only having 5. The Piker.
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Paulette, I thought my caveat was very clear and Sherri got it correctly. I make it clear in my own message that I don't support Palin's policies--obviously. But I assumed that a Republican would hardly send the same message that I did. So stop putting your knickers in a twist over nothing!
I am soooo against sexism in the media and it doesn't matter if it's directed against Hillary or Palin. And I find it particularly ugly when it's used to appeal to some unacknowledged bias in people to influence the outcome of an election. The Democrats have enough in Palin's policies to do the usual political thing, yet they use her role as a mother instead of legitimate issues, and it makes me physically ill. This may be because my own mother, who also had five children, worked fulltime as long as I can remember until age 72, and my older sister, a mother of six and still a fulltime professor of nursing at 70, did the same, and all their children, eleven in all, are very solid citizens of the world (with only two Republicans in the entire bunch--in both cases the eldest sons!
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Paulette, I thought my caveat was very clear and Sherri got it correctly. I make it clear in my own message that I don't support Palin's policies--obviously. But I assumed that a Republican would hardly send the same message that I did. So stop putting your knickers in a twist over nothing! Andf quit the name calling; it's totally unnecessary, particularly since I meant well.
I am soooo against sexism in the media and it doesn't matter if it's directed against Hillary or Palin. And I find it particularly ugly when it's used to appeal to some unacknowledged bias in people to influence the outcome of an election. The Democrats have enough in Palin's policies to do the usual political thing, yet they use her role as a mother instead of legitimate issues, and it makes me physically ill. This may be because my own mother, who also had five children, worked fulltime as long as I can remember until age 72, and my older sister, a mother of six and still a fulltime professor of nursing at 70, did the same, and all their children, eleven in all, are very solid citizens of the world (with only two Republicans in the entire bunch--in both cases the eldest sons!
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The media is now pushing for an "Eagleton effect". They fear her so much they are trying to force her off the ticket. You want to be sickened --Have a look at the Gary Wills NYT Op-Ed piece.........
There does not seem to be a limit at how low they will go:
From the Wall Street Journal Today:
REVIEW & OUTLOOK
The Beltway Boys
September 3, 2008; Page A22
Even as the Obama camp ponders how best to handle John McCain's veep pick of Sarah Palin, the high priests and priestesses of the media have marked her as an apostate. The Beltway class is in full-throated rebellion against a nondomesticated conservative who might pose a threat to their coronation of Barack Obama and the return of Camelot-on-the-Potomac.
Here is a sampler of media comment on Governor Palin this week:
- Eleanor Clift, the McLaughlin Group: "If the media reaction is anything, it's been literally laughter in many places across newsrooms."
- Sally Quinn, Newsweek: "It is a political gimmick . . . I find it insulting to women, to the Republican party, and to the country."
- E.J. Dionne, Washington Post: "Palin is, if anything, less qualified for the vice presidency (and the presidency) than [Harriet] Miers was for the court. But there is one big difference: Palin passes all the right-wing litmus tests."
- Maureen Dowd, New York Times: "They have a tradition of nominating fun, bantamweight cheerleaders from the West."
- Ruth Marcus, Washington Post: "But as a parent in the media, I also know that the Palins assumed this risk. Anyone who watched coverage of the Bush twins' barroom exploits knew that the avert-your-eyes stance toward candidates' children has its limits."
- Charlie Cook, Beltway pundit, on PBS's "Charlie Rose": "I had a friend that had a young person tell them that they had three interviews to get a job as a server at Ruby Tuesday! So this is like putting a whole -- for someone that hasn't played on a national -- Geraldine Ferraro had more -- Dan Quayle had undergone more scrutiny, had played on a bigger stage than this. This is putting an enormous risk on someone he didn't know. And he has to just pray that it works!"
This is the same media whose chant for weeks -- no, months -- has been "let McCain be McCain." If we know anything about John McCain, it is that he is by instinct a reformer, sometimes to a fault. Yet when he acts like McCain and picks a maverick reformer in his own mold, his former media cheering squad turns on him for not conforming to Beltway mores and picking someone they've all met 10 times in the CNN green room.
They want a VP to be a kind of parliamentary choice, someone they have already vetted, someone who's made them laugh with insider jokes at the Gridiron dinner. The Beltway class whines constantly about how it wants fresh voices in politics, but we guess this means a first-term Democratic Senator rather than a first-term Republican Governor from some godforsaken U.S. state few of them have ever been to.
We are instructed that Mrs. Palin isn't qualified, because she lacks Washington experience. But until recently that was said to be a virtue in Mr. Obama, who is at the top of his ticket. Meanwhile, there's hardly a peep of media notice that the Obama campaign is preposterously trying to remake Joe Biden into a poor scrapper from Scranton when he's been in the Senate for 36 years. They all know Joe. But when Mr. McCain picks an authentic middle-class mother who is also a Governor, we are told she's not up to the job.
The spin du jour is that her choice reflects poorly on Candidate McCain because she wasn't properly vetted. Yet this seems to be false. Campaign vetter A.B. Culvahouse, White House counsel under Ronald Reagan, says Mrs. Palin told the campaign about her pregnant daughter and her husband's DUI at the age of 22. On Monday, Time magazine's Nathan Thornburgh wrote from Wasilla, Alaska, that Bristol Palin's pregnancy had been known by virtually everyone there, with little made of it. But what do these private family matters have to do with Mrs. Palin's credentials to be Vice President in any case?
The press in 2000 ignored marijuana use by Al Gore's son, as it should have. But now we are told a teenage pregnancy is going to raise second thoughts among evangelicals and "family values voters" about Mrs. Palin's ability to be both a mother and a public official. This is also false.
Leaving aside the embarrassing reality that the Beltway press corps barely knows any evangelicals, religious leaders this week greeted the pregnancy news with support for the Palins. Offering support for unwed pregnant women and their families is a primary activity of these churches from one end of America to the other. That might even make a good story for someone this weekend.
What's really going on here is that the Beltway class can see how popular the Palin pick is with Republicans outside Washington, and especially with middle-class conservatives. As Richard Land, a leader with the Southern Baptist Convention, said Monday, John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin closed the "enthusiasm gap" between the two parties.
There is nothing more dangerous to entrenched Washington power than a populist conservative who looks unlikely to buy into Washington's creature comforts. Take a close look at Governor Palin's record on ethics and energy in Alaska, and it becomes clear what this Beltway outburst is actually about. The irony is that while Senator Obama is running on change, his acceptance speech made explicit that he's promising only more power and money for Washington. Sarah Palin's history of taking on the career politicians of a corrupt Alaskan GOP machine -- her own party -- shows that she's the more authentic change agent.
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If Sarah Palin succeeds as a national candidate, she could help John McCain proceed to a reform Presidency. Even if he loses while she does well, she could emerge as a major figure in GOP politics for years to come. This is why the media and political classes are so eager to discredit her. They can't let it happen.
We hope Mr. McCain and the GOP are prepared to fight back. On the evidence this week, it looks like an army of volunteers is forming up to help them. -
Coming home from the dentist a few minutes ago, heard this -
On the MSNBC website there is a video of Palin speaking at a church. It is just another example of the frenzy to destroy Palin that she is not a viable candidate. It took how many months to get anyone to touch the Rev. Wright story and show those video's but after less than a week they have one of her speaking at her church to a young group(males I think) in that church.
I haven't had a chance to look for this video - out the door to work now.
Ann thanks for the link - I tried to vote last night but there were problems with the website. I did understand that while we would vote, our comments and reasons would be different - with that I agree.
I'm hoping this outrage in the way Palin has been treated just totally backfires on the media that is determined to get Obama elected!!!
Brenda
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Good morning ladies..............Paulette and Anneshirley I haven't had time to read back........the office I work in had to move and I have been very distracted but there is one thing I have to say about the treatment of Palin.........(ok there is lot's of have to say about the media treatment of Palin) but Anneshirley I do need to tell you that you were right about Hillary......remember I kept saying that it wasn't about her being a woman but her affiliation to Bill that cost her the Democrat nomination........and you kept saying it was because she was female.........well I really hate to admit this especially when I have to admit that a Democrat was right and of course being Republican and Conservative we are never wrong..........ha...........but I was wrong and I think Anneshirley you were right all along............and what is really hard to believe and maybe you can shed some light on this but isn't it the left...........that has pushed so hard for equal rights, equal pay, voting rights, being able to be a mom and be in the work force, to be able to do any job that a man can do.........so what in the hell is going on with the Democrat party?.........I mean this is two for two.........what is going to happen in 2012 and it is going to be Hillary vs. Sarah for the Presidency?............how is the left going to handle that?..........hmmmmmm...........ok girls I will be back..........I am so excited about Sarah's speech tonight I can hardly stand it..........Shokk
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I haven't completely read each post. I hear that Sarah Palin's SS number was stolen. I do not know enough about this, but thought I'd post it.
I'm really getting sick of the media. BTW, I do not watch MSNBC or CNN for my news. I can't stomach it. I know the libs won't watch Fox because it IS fair and balanced..of course it leans right, but they do have the "other side" on as well as the "left leaners."
They having a good lineup tonight. They're going after Obama as I understand it. I believe I heard they feel it necessary to go on the offense.
Presidential candidates do not get vetted. WTH are they so worried about a VP being vetted. Obama has gotten away with so much $***, Ayers, Rezko, Wright, and no one can tell us one thing he has accomplished. All I hear is, well he yada yada yada. Oh yes, he wrote successful books that made him rich.
Tonight at 5 on Fox I can't remember what's on, but it looks good. Darn, my "chemo" brain..LOLI was trying to read some of the posts when they were talking about the 5 o'clock show...I can't multi task. REALLY!
Well, I like this small town gal, who tots around guns and clings to her religion.
Okay, I need to watch more of FOX to get my news. First I'm visiting the video that one of you posted.
Shirley
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"I was talking to a South American friend of mine the other day who called me to discuss the “feeding frenzy” over Sarah Palin. I said the media were “circling like sharks,” but my friend corrected me. He said, “They are not sharks, they are pirañas. Sharks have a better instinct for self-preservation and will not attack anything bigger than themselves. Pirañas will attack anything, they will attack viciously and they will attack regardless of the likely harm to themselves.”
I Read this comment on a blog today--pretty good analogy...........................
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I saw this morning a gambling site has odds against Palin making it through to the election before she quits, and another set of odds that McCain will replace her. Anyone want to make some money? The point spread looks good for us who back her.
I got so sick of hearing the words Barack Obama, the fact that her bad press has taken him off the front page, is perfect for me.
Yesterday, someone was saying that all their call-ins are calling her Sarah, like they know her already. Not Gov. Palin, it's just Sarah.
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Shirley--that reminds me of Fred Thompson's line about Sarah being the only candidate in history who knows how to properly field dress a moose!! haha lol
I really need to get offline and get back to my life for a while, but had to pass on this site I found--contains the letter that Palin wrote to Harry Reid in June....no wonder they're scared..........
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oooooppppssss--chemobrain strikes again!!!!!!!....forgot to paste the URL!! Here you go........
http://townhall.com/blog/g/97445152-2071-41fc-9fd8-ccc07e23395f
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OH, OH, OH, I forgot to tell you that Obama's gonna be on O'Reilly tonight. Bob Beckel couldn't believe it. He looked like he was in shock. It was sooooo funny! He said he would have put a candiate in that chair..(not an exact quote).
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Okay, I really am going to go get busy. But first I have a question. Any body heard anything from the Clinton camp, Hillary in particular? Seems awfully quiet from over there.....you'd think she'd at least be making a statement....Geraldine Ferraro has been very outspoken.......
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I hate the distraction of politics. I'm supposed to be working but they keep throwing in something else to keep me foaming at the mouth, so until this Palin/sexism thing is resolved, I won't be able to concentrate on anything else.
Shokk--yes, it is supposed to be those who think like me who support and push equal rights. How can I answer your question? I was actually surprised to find Republican women enthusiastically supporting a woman, so I've been walking around for many years holding misconceptions about both the left and the right, and I'm only now starting to see a larger picture.
WomenCount is a strongly Democratic organization, begun by women because of the Hillary bias; the irony here is that after the Democratic convention (at least I read this), the founder decided to support Obama but to keep the organization going to fight misogyny, and in fact she said they were planning to use the organization to fight any misogyny directed at Michelle Obama. And now it's using the organization to fight misogyny directed against a Republican woman. Can't make this stuff up. Reality always beats fiction!
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Shirley---You had me scared that I lost a day again
----This is Wednesday
----I'm relieved!! OReilly-Obama interview is Thursday evening..........
I hope he asks him why, (if he is for a new kind of politics) that he's appearing at the Kos convention.
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Sorry Susie. I 'm so sorry! Hope your BP is okay after my mistake. I tell you..I can't listen to TV and read posts AND post. Otherwise, multi-tasking is totally out! LOL
Now I'm hearing (I think I heard cuz I'm reading and listening) that Palins dd's bf will be at the convention and some very conservative governor was appalled! WHAT!!? Are they supposed to hide the guy. Perhaps this young woman would feel better if he were there with him to "share" the insults, nasty comments and hoopla over this pregnancy. Geez! Nit picking? Maybe this young man WANTS to be there after hearing all the crap that's being said.
I've got to get off of here and do only one thing at a time...listen to TV, do some cleaning OR keep posting. I think I'll WATCH Fox for a little while longer.
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Can anyone tell me why a country that is in desperate times would EVER EVER want to elect BO who is proposing such a huge tax increase??
I am really wondering what would be the selling points of this?????
Here's from an email I received:
Quotes from Obama:
from "Dreams of My Father": "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race." .... "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names." .... "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and malcolm, DuBois and Mandela." ....."I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."
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I am exhausted-and I haven't done a damn thing today! I think we all are in agreement, we are so obsessed! But it is fun anyway!!
I have been so busy reading all your links and sending them to my conservative friends, that I am getting nothing done. It is beautiful outside and I have 10 yards of mulch to spread and yet here I sit. Sherri, you are right, we need to get a life. Are we addicted or what?
All I can say to all of you, including Anneshirley, is thanks for sharing all your links, and for making this sisterhood such a guilty pleasure. God knows, we all deserve it. We have learned so much from each other. Notice that we are almost to our 50th page. We will have to have a 50th anniversary toast and a prize for the person who starts that page to celebrate. When I read other political blogs on the net, they get so nasty. It is great that we can keep it civil here. I hope that we will continue to do so.
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Here's a little more on the O'Reilly interview. I'll be watching C-Span for my convention coverage, I like hearing all the speeches.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/02/AR2008090202730_pf.html
I hope we don't lose Fox too.
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Good Article in Real Clear Politics:
Sarah Palin and the Two Americas
By Thomas Lifson
Liberals have long lamented the existence of two nations in America. They are right to do so today, but in a way they never meant. It is not the divide between rich and poor which soon will be causing serious pain on the left. Sarah Palin's pending nomination for Vice President is exposing the depth of the cultural divide between Middle America and the leftists who have taken over the education, media, and cultural establishment of our country.
The announcement of Palin's selection by Senator McCain last Saturday reportedly triggered outright laughter in newsrooms across the land, a nearly unanimous opinion that she would be a disaster for McCain. To the sort of people who believe themselves sophisticated citizens of the world and feel a sense of pride at saving the planet by purchasing carbon offsets, a woman who has borne five children is incomprehensible. Add in moose-hunting, a champion snowmobiler husband and a pregnant 17 year old daughter, and the phrases "white trash" and "trailer trash" are deployed.
A desperate race is underway, with the liberal media scampering to define Sarah Palin to the public as a dangerous religious fanatic and naïve hick, some kind of back woods primitive incapable of effectively discharging the awesome job of president, soon to be thrust upon her as John McCain expires right after his inauguration. Tonight, Governor Palin will have her opportunity to speak directly to the American people, and thanks to the blizzard of critical coverage, she will be no doubt attract an enormous audience.
She has the rarest of qualities: authenticity. Media and Beltway types can't fathom what that is. It goes right over their heads. Not even on the radar screen. Her multiple facets -- beauty queen, moose hunter, mother, member of an Assembly of God Church, and ferocious reformer of corrupt politics may baffle sophisticates, but ordinary Americans see all the pieces fitting together, and they recognize a type of person they know and love.
Think of Marge Gunderson, the fictional chief of police of Brainerd, Minnesota in the Oscar®-winning movie Fargo, taken as a comic send-up by the swells in New York and Hollywood, with her Midwestern twang (shared by Sarah Palin), funny hat, and kitsch-artist husband. The kind of woman who probably rides snowmobiles with her husband, for crying out loud. Yet in the end, Marge Gunderson solved the murder despite the sneers of her betters in the Big City (Minneapolis), and won the hearts of movie audiences. Americans like their heroines full of common sense and spunk.
Sarah Palin is the ultimate All-American Girl, beautiful but not glamorous, powerful but unpretentious, high-powered but down-to-earth, a reformer who speaks up while others cower in fear of rocking the boat. Like Ronald Reagan, she can reach right through the television camera into people's minds and hearts. We recognize one of us.
The left, so wrapped in artifice and fakery, are driven crazy by this. Her behavior appears bizarre, inexplicable. In their minds, she is a disaster and they pretend to be gleeful, asking when McCain will dump her. All while panicking, because they can see the energized GOP base and the failure of Barack Obama to garner the ten-to-fifteen point post-convention bounce to be expected after his speech before the multimillion-dollar Greek temple set and fireworks at Invesco Field only 5 days ago. Those who planned the classical Greek theatrical stage never for second contemplated the possibility of a deus ex machina named Sarah.
So now they hurl ridiculous, self-discrediting accusations (the fantasy that Palin was not the mother of her baby Trig and was covering for her daughter was published by The Atlantic) and cannot understand that they won't work on a mom who's about to become a grandma while caring for a Down syndrome baby. They regard the public as fools to be manipulated, and know that with the MSM megaphone, they can sell practically anything. They turned Ken Starr from a vigorous prosecutor into a sex-obsessed fanatic, didn't they? The Chicago Annenberg Challenge remains unknown to the vast majority of voters.
Sarah Palin, a woman who took down the corrupt politicians dominating her state, may be a tougher nut to crack. She simply doesn't know her place, at least as others have constructed it. She does what's right and tells people what's on her mind. When you believe in the founding principles of the land and see yourself answerable to God, it reinforces an already steely will. If you happen to be gifted with brains, beauty, energy, health, and the charisma of a star, you might just pull off genuine reform.
Republicans are thrilled by what they see in Sarah Palin. Reform Republicanism with a younger generation in charge could knock the left out of power for a generation. The genius Bobby Jindal, out to reform Louisiana as Palin reformed Alaska, awaits the 2012 VP nomination with Sarah at the top of the ticket, if McCain wins this election. Suddenly the Republicans have a claim on being the vote for change.
Despite having been written off as a hopeless cause by political insiders and media know-it-alls, the Grand Old Party is about to renew itself amidst catcalls from the opposition. The same sort of swells who laugh at Sarah Palin as trailer trash categorized Ronald Reagan as an amiable dunce when in a charitable mood, spelled his name Ray-Gun, and felt ashamed to have a graduate of Eureka College, not some Ivy League campus, representing America on the world stage.
Ronald Reagan never let the contempt of the cultural, literary and journalistic elites bother him. He simply spoke over their heads directly to the American people. And changed the world. In Sarah Palin, we may well have a figure able to do the same. All eyes will be on her tonight.
Thomas Lifson is the editor and publisher of American Thinker.
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Hi Ladies,
May I join you here? I made the mistake of posting on the Positive Obama thread - had read it for a few days for laughs, but had to post when they were getting really nasty with Gov. Palin. It is obvious that there is just way too much Kool-Aid drinking going on over there.
About the media bias, we have had a subscription to Newsweek for probably the last 20 years. My children, five of them (gasp!) (11-24) started reading it when they were about 10 or so and actually would have races to the mailbox to see who would get first dibs on reading it. The last few years it has become so biased and even they can see it. Now instead of racing to read it - they try to guess who will be on the cover and which way the Conventional Wisdom arrows will point. My 19-year-old daughter told me to stop subscribing to it - all it was good for was a good laugh. No wonder the media is in trouble and they are digging themselves in deeper with the furor over Palin. My 21-year-old daughter has a degree in Political Science and Economics and is now a teacher in Teach for America. I asked her what she thought and she said - they must be awfully scared of her. If they thought she was a cream puff they would wait until she goes on Meet the Press or when she has to debate Biden. She looks like change and makes Biden look really old - he actually looks older than McCain and has been in the Senate longer. Newsweek calls his family a "Hallmark" family - even though I have heard his sons are lobbyists and may be involved in the credit mess. I loved it last night when Lieberman stated that Obama hasn't really accomplished anything in the Senate yet. I think he is a fine person (Senator Obama) - I just don't agree with his policies. My 19-year-old just finished reading this weeks Newsweek and her assessment (it had McCain and Palin on the cover) not too bad but of course it wouldn't be Newsweek if there wasn't at least one picture of a very pensive Obama (actually several pictures) titled "The change we need is coming".
I love it, most of the diehard Obamaniacs have said they could not listen to the speeches last night. What are they afraid of? I watched most of the Democratic Convention last week. Obama had a good speech - just wonder what would have happened if something went wrong with the teleprompter! I know lots of politicians use them but it is not always so obvious. Even my 15 year old asked - how is he going to pay for all that? Just try to get a tax increase on the rich through Congress where many of the members are rich. I can see them voting themselves a pay raise - but a tax increase - hardly!
Can't wait to hear Gov. Palin speak tonight.
Suz
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Hi Suz, Your welcome here. The more the merrier.
I just wanted to post this:
McCain's campaign declared "this nonsense is over" and announced a new ad to tout Palin's credentials. There was a whole story but the Obama media has taken over most of the press so it starts out about McCain then it goes on to glorify Obama. We've seen enough of that already.
I agree, the excitment is in the air over Palin's speech tonight.
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Welcome Suz, I am just wondering what your secret was that you could raise conservative kids. Mine went off to college and were totally brainwashed. However, I still feel they will see the light once they start to pay taxes! lol
Did anyone catch the View today? I don't watch a lot because it is so one sided, but I decided to see what they had to say today. I usually have a lot of respect for BaBaWaWa because she really paved the way for woman, and usually tries to be less biased, but even she let out a low blow today. She said that it was terribly hard to be a working mom with one kid, and she questioned Sarah Palin's ability to do so with 5 and not have problems with her children. I thought Elizabeth was going to explode. When lizzie did try to nicely tell BABA that she was out of line, BABA cut her off and did not let her talk. I'll bet there was a back stage row over that one. What is with these high profile women who are blasting Palin? You would think that they would be proud that a women is about to finally reach the top. Yet they complain that since she has children, she should not even try. The hypocrisy is unbelievable! They only want a women on top if she agrees with them.
Women are the reason that we have not broken the glass ceiling. We are dammed if we do and dammed if we don't. And our biggest critics are other women! If we stay home with our children, we are looked down on as dumb little haus fraus. If we work, we are looked at as selfish women who do not put our children first. This diliemna has been dividing us for years, and Sarah Palin may finally be the women who can bring us together and respect each other for making this choice, depending on our own personal situations. Some of us have hubbies who are supportive if we work, and some of us don't. Some of us can juggle a bunch of different balls and some of us can't. We are lucky that many of us have a choice. We need to stop showing our claws towards women who choose a path that we would not take, and respect that they made a choice that is right for us. Sometimes, women can be real b------- s towards each other. It is time for it to stop!
anneshirley-I think this thing that your group is doing is really great, putting ideology aside for the sake of women in general. I sure hope it has an impact!
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This is the first time I have ever been to this thread and I'm glad I found you ladies! I am not a politically inclined person, but in order to be a sensible and responsible voter, I figured I should pay some attention to the candidates and their issues about now. In the short time that I have been reading on the internet (we do not have TV at my house, so I confess I'm not as enlightened as most), I am very, very relieved that Senator McCain picked Governor Palin as his running mate! I am registered as Democrat, but I have never voted party lines, but rather for the candidate and their issues. And I do not see color, am not prejudiced in the least (I make those statements because a lot of people in the area where I live still are, believe it or not), but I really fear Obama and what will happen (or should I say won't happen) if he is elected. Thank the Lord above we actually have a candidate now who seems very likable, is a real person, a real woman who has the same everyday issues we all face, and one who is not afraid to stand up to all the "good old boys". And darn right I also like her because she can hunt and shoot, can juggle a family, and look great, all at the same time! I am looking forward to hearing and reading more about Gov. Palin.
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I was watching Fox (the only cable news I watch) and saw McCain's plane land. All of his children and the Palins were waiting for him. When he hugged Bristol and her boyfriend (YES, her boyfriend..can you believe he's here...GASP!) it was so sweet. He gave her a longer hung than the rest of the "lineup." He shook hands with her boyfriend, and was rubbing his right arm. He then spoke again to Bristol. I was very sweet to see. I wonder what he said to her.
I'm glad to know that McCain is not anwering any more questions about the vet process for Palin. I was listening to Cavuto and a woman named Harriet Christian, a Hillary supporter who is now supporting McCain, say that McCain spoke to a group of women called "The New Agenda" and at the time of the meeting in JUNE he mentioned Palins name being on his list of VPs. Cavuto said, "In June?" She responded, yes. So, Rosemary, you musta had McCain looking her up and down (no, not literally..someone said on the "other" thread said that McCain was looking at her butt when she was speaking the first time he introduced her....sick!) because of all the mail you sent him. LOL
Shirley
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