I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

ruthbru

Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving. We delicious meal from a local restaurant (I may never cook again), took a couple walks, Zoom with my 85 year old aunt & uncle and some of their kids in Wisconsin, and later Zoomed with my siblings, their spouses, all my nieces, nephews, and DS. It was the first time we had all been 'together' in about 9 years so that was wonderful! I purposefully took a day off from the news and social media.

IllinoisLady

Pause then at this thanksgiving season and give thanks for the miracle of selfhood. Give thanks for yourself, for your health and strength and energy. Ponder the miracle of your body, which, without your conscious thought, controls heartbeat and respiration, digests food, compounds chemicals, renews cells, combats disease, heals wounds, and maintains equilibrium among its huge and intricate array of separate parts.

Wilferd A. Peterson

IllinoisLady

Ah, the news never stops, even when we take a day off. Seems I see this a.m. that Trump finally came out to be able to wish the troops a good Thanksgiving. Maybe that was something of a mistake. He couldn't resist his whining and lying and got hash-tagged Diaper Don for it. ( I miss all the good stuff ) and seems someone had him sitting at this tiny desk that looked like it was a child's desk. Just the picture of patheticness ( had to add this to my personal dictionary since I is not a word ) -- tiny desk, tiny mind, tiny heart, and 2 yr. old attitude to match all else. No wonder Biden make it by such big margins.

Was anyone thinking -- or worse yet, did they actually know what they were doing !!! Trump himself didn't catch it. Well, that sums this last four yrs. up just about right.

Trill1943

I can hear DT in the room getting ready for the press conference:

"Let's go with this table--"

"But, sir, it's small...it's going to look, well, silly after you've been behind Resolute for four years."

"No, this one. It'll make me look bigger!"

"Whatever you say, sir. But why is Resolute not available today?"

"It's being fumigated."

Trill1943

Trill1943

DivineMrsM

That table reminds me of the piano bench I have! Lol.

Wren44

It's definitely not a real adult desk. Look at how his knees are bent trying to fit under it.

glennie19

glennie19

Trill1943

IllinoisLady

Love those memes.

Trill1943

Trill1943

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THE DIAPER IS FULL!!!

Trill1943

IllinoisLady

Trump Is Now Actively Discouraging Republicans From Voting In Georgia Senate Runoff

Trump told reporters that the system in Georgia is fraudulent and actively discouraged his supporters from voting in the state's Senate runoff.

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IllinoisLady

Hmmm. It's always worked before -- but then this is the first super loss and it is in front of the whole world. I would imagine there are soooo many things Trump is not even thinking about such as -- that those from other countries are celebrating right along with us at the Trump loss. Other countries ( unless he can think about Putin and Kim Jon Un and maybe Saudi Prince ) don't exist for him. No more than so many people here in this country. He has no feeling for any unless they can somehow enrich him. Losing is one of the things he can't stand. I have to wonder how much he may be thinking about the lawsuits that are coming and some of the tidbits lg. and small that so many people might find out.

I am amused when he uses the word corrupt or fraudulent, as though he never was, ever. As though he is the very soul of proprietary honor, ethics and morality. He is always what he foists on someone else, but I think even worse if that is possible. He is going to lose and he is going to leave and he just hopes that he can once again avoid paying the dues. Sometimes you just want too much. To think -- five yrs. ago this started out as a way to reawaken his name and brand and to get lots and lots of free publicity -- because what dope would pay for what you can have for free. Well, it seems to me he is getting what he didn't pay for and I hope he gets it in double spades.

IllinoisLady

IllinoisLady

Sure got this one right:

IllinoisLady

Apparently if you put this read hat on it really cements your totally screwed up thinking. Or maybe it ends most thinking at all.

IllinoisLady

glennie19

glennie19

Well, that would be really interesting if he discouraged Republicans not to vote in the GA run-off. Really interesting.

glennie19

I say, good luck to the cities trying to collect.

glennie19

ruthbru

ruthbru

"The more I've studied leaders in crisis times—whether it's Lincoln or FDR or Teddy Roosevelt or LBJ during the Civil Rights struggle—they had almost like a family resemblance of leadership traits: the first one being humility, the ability to be able to acknowledge error and learn from your mistakes. I would go from there maybe to empathy as an absolutely critical human quality—the ability to understand other people's points of view and to feel a sense of connection to those other people. All the leaders that I've studied were able to communicate in a way to the people so that they felt a sense of trust in what they were saying. They were inspired to act because of them. And then beyond communication is the ability to control emotions and to remain cool during difficult times. And then at the very end, in someways, you have to have the self-confidence to create a team of people around you who can criticize you, who can question your assumptions, who can argue with you—and then to accept that it's gonna come from the country at large—is such an important quality in a leader."

—Doris Kearns Goodwin, biographer and historian

IllinoisLady

Losing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth.

- Ludwig Boerne

DivineMrsM

Ruth, interesting observations by Doris Kearns Goodwin. What frustrates many of us is how so many people are willing to support a president who possesses none of the above qualities listed by Goodwin. What I always say is, would the average citizen remain obsessively loyal to their boss if he/she behaved like Trump? Would they endlessly defend a relative or neighbor who behaved like Trump? I think not. Then why give the leader of the free world a pass? As the saying goes, “There is none so blind as he who will not see.”

The part about being able to receive criticism makes me think of a few of the 1st Ladies. I know the wives of LBJ and FDR truly had their husband’s ear and were not afraid to point out problems when needed. They were also allowed to have their own spotlight. Tho some claim Melania tells Don occasionally to tone it down, I sincerely doubt it. If anything, I see her supporting and applauding his approach.(F*ck dem, Donald! I dont care, do you?”) And she has not been permitted to have any kind of spotlight of her own, her biggest contribution is always “Melania in the crowd, wearing a pink pussy bow blouse/military style flack jacket/lime green dress smiling and applauding the words of her husband.”

IllinoisLady

Ruth and Divine. How true. Hard to take the vision of so many individuals going STILL for Trump. We are all on the same quest -- to get better through every lifetime. Very sad to feel that those who go for Trump seem to see him as what they should reach for in order to be better. Maybe a lifetime or two before it is apparent that going for anyone with 'arrested ' development slows you down so much more. Perhaps they are to pity somewhat rather than total scorn. I fall somewhere in the middle of that I think.

I think as well that Melania is a somewhat damaged person. Her needs ( she well knew ) could be best met by someone like Trump. She seems to have had great patience in waiting for him to pop the question so she could get her needs and wants fulfilled. Then again, who was standing in line to win her away from the orange buffoon. I doubt there was anyone. She isn't a real gift and others likely picked up on that. They faded while she had to work on the only game that she could twist to suit her needs. They deserve each other. Why should either ruin the well-adjusted.