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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2016

    I'd vote for you!

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited March 2016

    Months ago, Trump reminded me of Martin Sheen's character....in Stephen King's movie, " The Dead Zone". I just googled it and ha ha, to my surprise, many many others have also made the connection, there are numerous articles on the topic.

    In the movie, Sheen plays Greg Stillson, described as: a coarse, unstable demagogue who enters the political arena seemingly out of nowhere, rides a wave of populism to an unlikely White House victory, and raging with messianic self-regard incites a nuclear apocalypse.

    Oh yes, that seems about right

    The movie came out in 1983! It's one of my favorites

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited March 2016

    Let's hope that's not prophetic 😬 .

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2016
  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited March 2016

    Ruth, that sign is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh this morning!

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited March 2016

    ThumbsUpGood one Ruthbru!

  • gramamuses
    gramamuses Member Posts: 633
    edited March 2016

    John Kasich has a record of accomplishment and problem solving, in a bipartisan way and he has done so with dignity and is highly respected. He is trusted, leads the polls in that regard and the only republican candidate that outpolls Hillary. Benghazi was not just a vast right wing conspiracy, sorry, those who disagree, There are far too many unanswered questions and way too much spin and too much blaming --do "not recruit for ISIS'' by this or that comment. Hillary is for now hanging on Obamas coattails--he may have to pardon her. I am 80 years old, and have seen and heard a lot of spin in my lifetime--nothing comes close to this stuff. I am not a fan of Trump or Cruz. or Hillary and certainly not Bernie because I am not a big government advocate. Consider the IRS and that mess. Consider that Hillary changes her position depending on who will get her the most votes and yes this is nothing new in politics but also consider that she is involved in controversy throughout her public and private life.. I am personally dismayed when she gets support because "its time for a woman president" this from men and women both according to exit polls and elsewhere. Aren't so many of us fed up withbeing hamstrung by political correctness. and equally sickened by the total lack of it? We all know folks who are racist, sexist, etc. bigots and corrupt as individuals or hypocrites but most people I know are none of these, but neither do they want crooks to represent them or scam them or crooks to terrify them, whatever their race, religion or circumstances may be. Most are willing to give a helping hand and are not in favor of enabling people to keep their hands out forever and freeload--except for those utterly incapable of managing their own lives. all that being said, I am a conservative liberal independent WASP, with some biracial grandkids , and some who are part Jewish, and some who have some American Indian heritage and some who are fundamental Christians and some who are not. I am a nurse who is in favor of some major change in healthcare coverage but not Obamacare which needs major overhaul and hopefully not throw out the good stuff. It is evident that no, you can't keep your doctor. It is wonderful that pre-existing conditions are no longer an issue. I know people who have managed to get coverage but they cant afford to use it--not even for their kids. Maybe Ben Carson can sort it out, given the chance--maybe no one can. Personally I hope Trump outsmarts himself and that the electorate takes a larger viewpoint and considers the plethora of issues facing the country and the world, and follows their heart but takes their brain along. Okay, you know somewhat of where I stand. The issues are controversial, and there is no quick-fix but government spending is out of control, there are too many freeloaders, too many illegal people here and too much greed all around and way too much instant gratification expected, One benefit of the discussions here and elsewhere--the debates, the media (which is sometimes more that one can handle) it that the problems are being identified and it seems to be causing a lot of folks to do some serious thinking on a deeper level. lets hope so and may the best person for the job of president win and save us all!!! Now, I hopeto get the attention of my 7 college age grandchildren anddo some subtle campaigning. There are some dyed in the wool liberals among them and even a Trump supporter. Bye.

  • Englishmummy
    Englishmummy Member Posts: 337
    edited March 2016

    I think Kaisch 'seems' like a nice person but he is a union buster, and that doesn't work for me! He did say something very lovely to Robin Roberts when she interviewed him this morning on ABC's GMA - how we should treat employees like family....I just don't buy that he really believes that.

    Ha, ha Ruthbru, that is a great sign......This is what I wish to do to Trump signs....

    http://wspa.com/2016/03/18/driver-charged-for-vide...


  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited March 2016

    My impression of Kasich is that he seems reasonable on the outside but there are a lot of red flags and issues that are not getting much coverage. I'm wary of him. No, he's not as awful as Trump or Cruz but that's a pretty low bar and I would not vote for him, either.

  • gramamuses
    gramamuses Member Posts: 633
    edited March 2016

    I am not in favor of union busters, but I am also not in favor of having to pay union dues when one does not belong to a union, which has happened to me and others and still does happen. There is much that should be changed in regard to how the unions operate. Wisconsin for example--unions required certain health insurance coverage for teachers. When that no longer was the case (busted) the schools were able top save so much money and get better coverage as well, that they did not need a huge sum of money they had asked for in a referendum--many thousands. Not sure what the status is now. But that is a whole huge topic with valid points on both sides. I tend to be not in favor of some of the ways unions operate. Kasich is still my choice.

  • Englishmummy
    Englishmummy Member Posts: 337
    edited March 2016

    Wow! You had to pay dues despite not being a member?..That is insane. I also don't agree with not paying dues and expecting union representation when the stuff hits the fan, that is a crock. There are dubious unions and union activities, but there (IMO) more debatable actions with churches and charities - that concerns me way more.

    I dare not complain about union enforced health care coverage although I realise it is absurdly expensive: I paid a total of $300 out of pocket last year when I went through this ordeal. My current worry is the 'cadillac policy tax' which will be under the code next year.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited April 2016

    I thank God I was represented by a union, they were so helpful. I liked working with a know n contract that was voted on.

  • gramamuses
    gramamuses Member Posts: 633
    edited April 2016

    One last word from me on the unions--this was not public sector, this was private sector. No benefit in any way in our case. I am not anti-union, I am anti greed, and pro fair play---wishful thinking maybe?

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited April 2016

    Ok, now he is going waaaaay too far if you ask me. This man is DANGEROUS to world peace and to what we are trying to accomplish by our policies on non-nuclear proliferation. WTF is he trying to do here? He is nuts. I will never apologize for thinking it or saying it either. He is a buffoon and he doesn't know squat about diplomacy or foreign relations.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/31/politics/trump-view-from-south-korea-japan/index.html

  • PatRN10
    PatRN10 Member Posts: 332
    edited April 2016

    Hi All, Glad to join the "junkies"!

    Dr. Carson was my first choice, now a Ted Cruz supporter, can't vote for a socialist, #neverHilary. I will support Trump if he is the nominee.

    Yes I am afraid of Hilary : Benghazi, emails, Whitewater, Rose Law Firm and her supposed advocacy of female assault victims (Except if you are one of Bill's victims). I don't trust her. Look up Juanita Broaddrick, Sally Miller. I've heard enough.

    http://time.com/4177436/hillary-clinton-juanita-broaddrick/

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2016

    That is key! " he doesn't understand squat about diplomacy or foreign relations"


  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited April 2016

    Not sure why people have trust issues with Hillary, I like her.

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited April 2016
  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2016

    I am not an enormous Hilary fan. I love Bernie's vision of a social democracy, but don't think it's realistic. Trump is just a dangerous man with no real notion of how to run a government (no, it is not like running a corporation). Being a loudmouthed, bombastic bully who wants to drag our country into isolation from the world community is not in best interests. He is vulgar, crude and misogynistic. Leadership is not being the one who can shout the loudest and put down others. So, Hilary it is.

    A very proud liberal :), not a conservative Christian

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited April 2016

    Flipping thru tv channels today, I came across a political pundit on CNN, older white dude, talking about how a Clinton-Trump ballot would give Trump the edge because it'd be like "mom vs dad" and apparently this dude thinks people will prefer daddy running the country, not mommy. Omg. I felt like barfing. Does he really think the American public are going to vote fora daddy figure to make it all better? I couldn't listen, I changed the channel.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited April 2016

    mrsdivine, I feel like heave ho-ing as well. To think we have to November.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2016

    Sueris,

    LOL, I viewed that same moment as Trump simply making it up as he went along ie: he had never considered this question before. Ironically, Glen Beck thought the very same thing. I never imagined that Glen Beck and I would ever be thinking the same about anything 😜

  • rainnyc
    rainnyc Member Posts: 1,289
    edited April 2016

    Had a long chat with the head custodian at a local school today (Brooklyn, NY). He wanted to know who I was supporting in the upcoming primary and surprised me by saying that he was very drawn to statements of both Sanders and Trump--and for similar reasons. He felt that if all was right with the world, there would be some sort of revolution to right injustice and make things more fair, and Sanders and Trump both speak the rhetoric of change. He did, of course, mention that Trump has also said some appalling things.

    That said, he's supporting Clinton all the way. He feels strongly that it's inevitable that we'll see more terrorist attacks here, and Clinton is the only candidate qualified to respond with common sense and experience, the only one who will know when and when not to go to war (We both have vivid memories of 9/11/01.). He felt Sanders couldn't negotiate with other countries or with Congress.

    So, for what it's worth--a position that had clearly been thought out and one that I found very interesting.

  • PatRN10
    PatRN10 Member Posts: 332
    edited April 2016

    Meow, I mentioned quite a few reasons not to trust Hilary. I guess the point is if one chooses to overlook them as Trump supporters are willing to overlook his faults. I think she is a pathological liar and would feel much safer with Trump over her if Cruz does not get nomination.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited April 2016

    PatRn, I don't think her emails, Bengazi whatever is any proof of being a liar. I am not overlooking short comings at all. My opinion is she is an excellent candidate. You have an opinion that you think is based in fact I disagree.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited April 2016

    I wonder if people consider a White House wth Donald Trump's family in residence. Are the grown kids, the grandkids, the two ex wives all going to converge on the place with all of their opulence? Yes, we elect the president, but the First Ladies have all been beside their husbands as they work their way up through the ranks and make the rounds in the political circles, advising and doing their part to make the presidency work. What does Melania know about how Washington and politics work? I would love to know more about that relationship between the two of them. He calls all the shots, maybe? I've read she's intelligent, but does that mean she's intelligent to know not to challenge Donald and to be submissive arm candy? Is that what we want in a First Lady? Is that what we want emulated for young girls to see, to cash in on your exceptional beauty and marry a sugar daddy? Anyway, that's where my thoughts are this evening.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2016
  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited April 2016
    To think of a (s)Trumpette following in the footsteps of Jacqueline Kennedy or Mamie Eisenhower, Eleanor Roosevelt or Lady Bird Johnson is incredibly distasteful. and I hate to think of the mark that family would leave on the White House...
  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited April 2016

    Can you imagine them with early American antiques? They would replace with gold plated ornate furnishings.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited April 2016

    Just like Trump, his supporters don't seem to be thinking this through. Electing the president means you get the package deal of their family representing the U.S. We've never had a billionaire president. If Trump were elected, many people around the world would see the over the top living by him and his adult children and think all Americans live in such luxury. It would not paint the U.S. In a good light.

    Many First Ladies give political advice to their husbands and are a big part of the package deal. Do you think Melania would ever give her husband advice on anything? Would he even listen? Or is he the type to be offended that his wife would question anything at all about him? He thinks so little of women other than what they look like, would he feel contempt for Melania if she were to ever challenge him on anything? Or,do we just get a big vacuous First Lady, like a cardboard cut out up there on the world wide stage, incapable of independent thought, or finding it not necessary to have her own thoughts, his thoughts are hers?

    My son says in video gaming, there is something called an npc. It stands for non-playing character. They are characters in the background who don't contribute anything to the story. Here's wikipedia's definition: In video games, this usually means a character controlled by the computer through artificial intelligence. In traditional tabletop role playing games the term applies to characters controlled by the game master or referee rather than another player.

    Does this describe Melania? Does she have her own voice, thoughts, opinions? Or is she an npc?


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