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  • new2bc
    new2bc Member Posts: 559
    edited February 2014

    The idea of milk of magnesia for deodorant is very good. I have some at home and will try it and report back to you. I guess I can apply it with a cotton ball.

    flaviarose,

    You asked about graviola and apricot kernels. I eat 8 apricot kernels a day. I eat one at a time spread out during the day. I took graviola pills after my radiation was over (no chemo) for 2 weeks. It brings the blood pressure down because it reduces ATP energy in the body. I also tried the tea for one week a few months ago. It made me have low energy and then I stopped it. You can not take graviola every day for a long time. I will try it again in a few months for a short period of time. I will take it when I want to get a break from taking supplements. You can not take graviola with supplements that increase the ATP energy such as vitamin C, COQ10, etc. When I tried graviola, I did not take any other supplements. Also, if you already have very low blood pressure, you have to watch out b/c it will make it lower.

    As far as essiac tea, anyone else taking it? Do you take it with other supplements. I love this board where everyone shares what they know.

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2014

    I'm interested in hearing how the MOM works. I would think you wouldn't want to be wearing anything sleeveless or dark colored with that on your armpits. Maybe I'm wrong and all that chalky stuff gets absorbed some how. 

    Lightandwind, pine resin can be scraped off of any pine tree, wherever the tree has a wound from animal scratches or missing branches....the sticky stuff on the wound.  

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2014

    Just in case anyone is interested, that deodorant recipe is from an ethnobotanist named James Wong. He has recipes for virtually any personal care product you could ever need, including many natural alternatives to some medications. Thought I'd throw his name out there if you wanted to google.....and such a cutie too! 

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    I have not heard of phytoceramide light and wind  - if you try them and they work let me know.  I watched the Dr. Oz video on it and it sounds promising.  My PS office sells this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CJE0H2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=V0YXJ7WXEFH9&coliid=I169LGC5F4314W - it is a b5 complex that is supposed to referse the signs of aging (I spend a lot of time looking at the ads at my PS office btw and find all sorts or weird products!)  I am thinking of giving it a try to reverse the sun damage on my skin. 

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    new2bc- I read some reviews yesterday of MOM for deodorant and most people apply if with their fingers - I guess it sticks to cotton and/or the MOM soaks into the cotton before you apply it. Just to warn you! 

    p.s. so glad I asked about this!  You ladies rock. 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2014

    This is totally off topic, apologies, but here in Greece, the main alternative use of MoM is putting it on your face during demonstrations because it cuts down on how much the tear gas irritates your eyes and nose.

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited February 2014

    Good to know, Momine!

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited February 2014

    momine,

    Thanks, I love a good multi-purpose substance.

  • Chinabound13
    Chinabound13 Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2014

    Does anyone have experience with essential oils? I'm considering topical application. I'm a little fearful of ingesting. Anyone have any knowledge or experience to share?

    Many thanks.

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited February 2014

    Hi Chinabound, 

    Here's some info on frankincense oil. I too feel cautious about using it internally. I bought some organic oil for that purpose, thinking I might, but so far I've just applied it externally for a fungus on my toenail (it works-fast w/ lugols). 

    Boswellia, is the same substance as frankincense or at least it's from the same plant and I take that in supplement form.

     http://dillight.com/sacred-frankincense-breast-cancer/http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22171782

    http://www.cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/This-Gift-of-the-Three-Wise-Men-Was-a-Powerful-Cancer-Treatment.html



  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    Most essential oils on the market are aromatherapy-quality oils, which means that they may not have a high level of purity and should always be diluted before using topically.  They can be diluted in a "carrier" oil before applying topically: coconut, almond, hazelnut, grapeseed, or olive.  Purity can be tested by placing a drop of the essential oil on a piece of construction paper; does it evaporate completely?  If it does, it's a high grade oil and can be used; if it doesn't, it isn't and is best avoided.

    Some essential oils are more astringent/toxic than others and can cause extreme allergic reactions and severe irritation.  Essential oils should never be used - even in diluted form - by pregnant/lactating women or children under the age of five.  If you are going to use an essential oil topically, do a patch skin test first to determine if you are going to react negatively to it.

    There is very little research on contraindications/interactions between essential oils and drugs, but given the complex chemical make-up of essential oils, you should always assume that this is possible.  For example, a few studies indicate that peppermint and eucalyptus oils increase the skin absorption of 5-fluorouracil, an anti-cancer drug (Abdullah et al 1996, Williams & Barry, 1989).  So, if you decide to use essential oils, you should always tell your healthcare practitioner, just in case.


     

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited February 2014

    This is off the current topic, but wanted to post this very informative article.

    http://www.drdebe.com/articles/preventing-breast-cancer

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    Ugh! I am trying hard not to be angry about all the radiation I was subjected to with useless mammograms the last 13 years but then I read stuff like this

    http://news.yahoo.com/mammograms-not-reduce-breast-cancer-deaths-study-finds-001906555.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons and I am irritated again!  I know it is not healthy to look backwards so I try hard not to.

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    Jojo - see that article mentions that flax seed is good for BC patients!  I am so confused about the whole flax thing.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited February 2014

    hipz,   Thx for the link, I took notes. :)

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2014

    Chinabound, as far as I know, the only two oils that are safe to use topically are lavender oil and tea tree oil. The rest would be too toxic if absorbed, IMO. I would never ever ingest (not that there aren't many that would be helpful in certain situations), but it's the purity you can never count on. I remember reading a few reports that just like olive oil, some are not pure like they represent themselves to be, even the ones being labelled as 100% pure, all natural, organic, etc., are adulterated. 



  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited February 2014

    My post should have read "safe to use topically, undiluted". 

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited February 2014

    I know...Flaxseed is controversial...I choose not to take too much

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited February 2014

    oops, thx jojo for the link...

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited February 2014

    jojo68 - regarding great link you posted above - latest news regarding melatonin and TNBC.

    http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/health/2014/02/10/melatonin-breast-cancer-study/5357587/


     

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited February 2014

    non oil related question.

    i just bought some pumpkin seeds...how do i eat them as for detox my body?? any advice? TIA...

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    juneping I throw my hemp seeds into my daily smoothies - I would assume pumpkin seeds would be good in smoothies as well.  It is amazing what you can throw into smoothies and not even taste (kelp, seaweed, spinach, kale, seeds, chia seeds, spirulina).  Love them!

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited February 2014

    hjpz - oh great idea. thanks!! i thought there's a dosage i needed to take...silly me.

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    From what I have read it looks like you should eat 1-2 heaping tsp. of pumpkin seeds per day :) Good luck.

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited February 2014

    I roast my pumpkin seeds: a little bit of olive oil, a seasoned sea salt/herb concotion, spread on a cookie sheet and roast at 475F until they turn golden-brown (optional: if you want to carmelise them, add some butter).  Allow to cool, then eat as is.  Very tasty.

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited February 2014

    If I cook winter squash, I sometimes eat the seeds just as they are.  Alternatively, I'll stick them in the toaster oven on very, very low for a couple of hours, usually just with salt, but tumeric works well too.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited February 2014

    Thank you ladies for the yummy receipts...

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    juneping - we always roast our jack o lantern pumpkin seeds in the oven (tossed with olive oil and salt) and they are yummy.  I think we set the oven at 350 degrees and roast them for 10-15 minutes (until slightly brown). 

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited February 2014

    just read a tamoxifen thread that the med could cause receding gum line. gosh i am taking one med for BC and i need to look out for my teeth, my uterus and any blood clot in my legs. 

    at this time of our lives, we could go to Mars but we can't cure cancer. something is very wrong. thanks for letting me rant.

  • hjpz
    hjpz Member Posts: 348
    edited February 2014

    juneping my father got into a small argument with my surgeon after my surgery about why BC treatments have only mildy improved since my mother had it in the 80's. He asked her where all this BC donation money is going. So you can see I get my questioning nature honestly!  P.S. I had not heard the thing about gum damage. Fantastic!

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