Wife had Breast Cancer, now she does not.

barbe1958

Caryn, I do apologize!!! I didn't realize you were saying the op's comments about docs was inflammatory!!! Maybe that should have been mentioned to clarify your point so I wouldn't have posted an annoyed response. So sorry, sweetie!

Again, in the link way back, the test subjects HAD CONVENTIONAL therapy FIRST. Then they did the IV Vit C. That proves nothing!!!

Momine

New, thanks for the link. 

marywh

Just 1 more comment from me on this thread. This treatment has been around for a very long time. Does it work? I dont know. When my bil was dx with liver cancer and went through all possible treatments including this type, there was no improvement. Period. It did not prolong his life, and he ended up in the hospital and never came home. That is the only personal experience I have with it. I sincerly hope it helps this woman. It may be totally different when treating other types of cancer. I just dont think he should be tooting it as a miracle cure and slamming conventional treatment the way he was. I would also love to hear from his wife about her experience.

netty46

The cost in Peru in U.S dollars is much cheaper.

exbrnxgrl

Thank you, Barbe. I have no comment on the efficacy of this tx. If the women is cured, I am thrilled. I just hate when people use broad generalizations and strong language to refer to our medical establishment. I also don't use that type of language when referring to alt practioners and tx. It does nothing to foster civil dialogue.

Caryn

edwards750

 I would love it if there was a viable alternative but I am sorry I just am not willing to take a chance with my life. I bet we all probably know someone who has opted for a different course of treatment. The person I know who elected to go that route didnt live but a few months. Not saying chemo would have saved her life but it might have prolonged it. We all know Steve Jobs went a different direction and it cost him his life. When he decided he needed to go the course it was too late. I freely admit I am too afraid of doing that. Maybe some day in our lifetime there will be a different way to go but for now I am going to follow my drs advice. I hope this lady continues to heal but I am not ready to take that risk.

SpecialK

There are women on this board who have tried Vit C infusion treatment initially, had their breast cancer worsen, then had to go with conventional to mop up.  I am happy for this man's wife if it worked for her, but just like conventional medicine it does not work for everyone. 

Blubelle

I started doing IV's in December, 1 x a week, and my tumors are either gone or smaller, except for one that is is slighting bigger and only visible on Ultrasound. I had masses all over the place and I'm down to 3. I've been doing so many things, but I think this will knock it all out!

pupmom

Blubelle, where were your masses? Your profile says you had a 1.9 cm tumor, Grade 1. You also say you are Her+/-. Huh? 

Blubelle

Here's the short answer:

HER2 +/- because the pathology gave both results.

In the left breast I had a 1.4 x 1.2 x 1.2 cm (Now: .10 x .7 x .8 cm) biopsied mass which was included in the 5.5cm area of predominant abnormality; this was located from 6o'clock to 9'o'clock (Now, only 1 satellite lesion remaining 1.6 mm). Also, there was a 6mm mass 2cm above it (Now, Gone). Also, a clumped non-mass enhancement 1.5 x 1.0 cm (Now, Gone). Ultrasound picked up a .7 x .5 x .3 cm mass at the 2'oclock position 5.5 cm from the nipple. This is the one that is a bit larger now measuring .7 x .3 x .7 cm. 

I was suggestive of at least multifocal, possibly multicentric disease.

In the right breast I had 2 previous masses for years, however they presented as 2.0 x 1.4 x 2.3 cm (Now, 1.5 cm, no longer requesting biopsy), a 1.2 x 1.6 x 2.0 cm (Now 1.5 cm, no longer requesting biopsy). Also, a .5 cm mass (Now .4 cm, no longer requesting biopsy) and has been downgraded from BIRAD's 4 Suspicious to BIRAD's 3 Probably Benign.

I went off of my program during the fall to try and generate some income, but I don't think it was the right choice.

There is a lot more to this story, but I'm trying to be brief.

Blubelle

BTW: There are differences in the measurements between Ultrasound and MRI. The initial US was 1.9 cm, the MRI 1.4 cm.

Blubelle

Does anyone know if I should be worried about the Ultrasound results if it does not show up on MRI?

barbe1958

Blubelle, I don't get it. If the "mass" (tiny as it is) shrank and was thought to be cancer in the first place, why wouldn't it get biopsied and/or taken out????? I think they don't think it was cancer at all! No doctor in his right mind would leave any sized cancer in a breast!! I am very scared for you. Breast cancer is very insidious and can hide from scans for a long, long time before rearing it's ugly head! By the time it is big enough to be seen on US or MRI the cancer is well-established in the breast. I truly believe you need a second opinion!! Please, sweetie, get another doctor to look at your scans. I've never heard of someone being down-graded from BIRADS 4 unless there was actual surgery to take out the suspicious area.

It doesn't mean that every lump found is/was cancer. Cysts are very, very common in breasts, especially as we grow older. What can be thought to be cancer can certainly turn out to be a cyst (which I think is what happened to the op`s wife), but it takes surgery to prove it. The best lump is a lump in a jar.

MelissaDallas

Barbe, she's an altie. From a previous post:



"I've been treating BC naturally and have some questions. When I was diagnosed in March I went to get a second opinion at Stanford Hospital. They are thorough and did an MRI, that is when I went from what I thought would be a simple lumpectomey, etc.... to probable mastectomy. Cancer was found/suspected throughout the left breast and the right too. When I got this BAD news, I immediately called the Optimum Health Institute in San Diego and went for 3 weeks. I have struggled through these past 10 months on a multi-faceted regimine that has done a lot to reduce the lesions.



I've done great eliminating most of the areas of suspected cancer. The main biopsied tumor is smaller (1.4 x 1.2 x 1.2 cm to 1.0 x .7 x .8 cm), most everything else is either gone, smaller and/or downgraded.



However, I have 1 spot that is slightly larger, but does not show on MRI, only ultrasound. Does anyone know about the difference between Ultrasound and MRI results?



If the MRI doesn't show anything, can the Ultrasound show cancer?"



She's doing coffee enemas, Gerson, etc...

CelineFlower

Personaly speaking....

i am an "altie" (never heard that term before lol ) i've helped run an alt media/social network for a few years now...

but i chose mainstream treatments..

my reason are available if anyone wishes to know but my point here is...

We are here to share info... not lable people.

like someone said above ... mainstream tx...doesnt work on all... just like alt doesnt work on all..

The OP (original poster ) on this thread seems to want to stir emotions....

I feel thats an unfair ploy on his part... 

In the end we are all just trying to survive..

cancer doesnt define me... but how i fight it does

MelissaDallas

Celine, I wasn't trying to "label" anyone, I had just read previous posts by Blubelle & wanted to give Barbe some context as to the question Blubelle was asking. It is not clear unless you understand her entire history as presented here. I am not passing judgment.

CelineFlower

i am sorry if my words made you feel like i thought you had a negative intent...

that was not what i meant...

but to be nit picking... calling anyone an "altie" rather then saying "this is someone into alternative treatments... has different emotional intent

im sorry again if i offended you .. but name calling is a pet peeve of mine..

i think ill stay out of this one..

Blubelle

I'm taking Curcumin 2,181mg. 2x daily

thefuzzylemon

I heard Vitamin C helps balance emotions.....I think I'll grab a tablet or two...

Barbe...<3  You always catch my attention!

Anonymous

The first naturopathic MD I went to who has a passion for alternative tx for cancer  - he wanted me to go on IVs of Vit C.  I declined, opting instead for the UVB IV blood therapy.  In some of my reading and discussion, I do understand that Vit C is different results fo different types of cancer.  Research research.  It is working for Blubelle, she believes it and so it is.  She will know if she needs more or other, she is being vigilant.  Forthose wondering.... First, remember this is not the sugars of fruit, it is in IV.  For me, I was underimpressed by the fact I might need to be on the IVs near a lifetime.  I wanted something quicker and to be able to transition to other alternative treatments every week or month, so I do.  I could not afford the Vit C IV and to do a lot of the other choices I have made.  One day I will go for the Vit C IVs. 

barbe1958

Why is the Vit C so expensive???? It`s a cheap resource??? Is there a conspiracy to make it as expensive as chemo???? 

HLB

I guess because insurance won't pay for the infusions. But yes, too expensive!

Layla2525

So happy for your wife,that she is well. However, I agree,my drs were very good and put the incisions very low so they would be hidden in the natural droop. I could have had a lumpectomy and then rads with chemo but I chose the works. I saw 2 aunts pass from BC. My other aunt was treated in Germany,10 yrs later the BC came back in the other side and the  US treated it,she died at 100 yr old last Christmas in the nursing home. She had rads/chemo etc in the 60s when thats all that was offered. No reconstruction offered then. She had a good long life. I am glad I caught my cancer very early on so there was none in the lymph nodes,did not need rads or chemo. My drs were happy for me.  Now the long road to reconstruction and my fake ones look better than my real ones ever did. However, I would still choose my real ones if I could. Just glad the wife is better and hopefully researchers will get some info on this treatment as they are developing vaccines to prevent this horrid disease in the first place.

Scienceroxs

You are absolutely right.

jojo68

WOW!!!  Wait!  Am I on the alternative thread????  Or, am I on the other threads where I was just recently bashed for having an opinion and told to go over to the 'alternative' thread where I belong?  Okay, so I came over here and the same people that were giving me a hard time on the estrogen and ILC ladies thread are HERE bullying some more!!!!!  Why are you  here(no names, you know who u are) if you aren't alternative minded?  Did you not just tell me an hour ago to get my butt on over here and to stop touting my alternative mind over in your thread?  AND, now you are all over here poopooing all of this info? I am sorry, now I am pretty ticked off!  What hypocrits!!!!!!  You all get so mad when any of us alternative folks speak our minds on your conventional threads, yet you have no problem at all coming over here speaking YOUR minds!  You have NO idea what you are talking about when it comes to vitamin C therapy...no idea.  before you criticize something, why don't you open your mind and listen before opening your mouths! 

@Marywh...I am truly sorry your Bro-in-law passed...You said he did all of the traditional therapy first and that failed and he tried vitamin c therapy and it killed him!  Did anyone think possibly the chemo ended up killing his immune system and the vitamin c had nothing to do with it????  Many times alternative methods are blamed for deaths AFTER people have exhausted their immune systems with conventional chemo etc....Helllllllllo!??  Wakey Upey!!!!!!...I know I am being mean, but hey...you all don't seem to have a probblem with being mean, do ya? 

What if this man is the real deal and is trying to help you with his vitamin c info?  You really are bullies, I am sorry...but, go back to your conventional threads if you can't be sensitive and supportive...those were your words you gave to me an hour ago.  only, you were sending me here, where I belong, and I am shocked that you are all here as well.

This truly is highschool, kindergarten, twilight zone, hypocracy at its best.

jojo68

VERY interesting article in Medical Today about Linus Pauling...the man/chemist behind vitaman c therapy and  "the leading chemist of the last century and, arguably, the greatest ever
American scientist. He remains the only person to have won two unshared Nobel
Prizes, the first for Chemistry (1954) and the second for peace (1962). In
addition to being one of the greatest scientists ever, he was a renowned
humanitarian."

It is the 10th anniversary of the death of Linus Pauling and his most
controversial scientific conjectures about the health benefits of vitamin C are
being confirmed. The weight of evidence may yet force the medical establishment
to accept his ideas on nutrition and health.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12154.php

Momine

Joelle, no, not at all. Those who have posted here for a while have learned that the kinds of stories like the OP's are often posted with other intentions, either to collect money or sell something. Alternative or not, logic fail is logic fail. You will also notice that the OP never answered any of the perfectly reasonable questions.

jojo68

Regardless if the man is real or not, who cares?  He is not hurting anyone or soliciting.  His advice is not dangerous, very good info.  Just because you all conventional ladies think it sounds crazy or conspiracy-like does not give you the right to treat and mock him the way you did.  I am embarrassed for you...Do you not ask for the same level of respect on your own threads?  You did yesterday! 

jojo68

What do you mean by logic fail?  I will answer your questions about vitamin c therapy as I am on the DIY lipo vitamin c therapy and never felt better.  I will look at the questions and get to them.  I do not blame him for not answering all of everyone's attacks!  Afterall...We ARE on the correct thread (alternative) for him to share this info...and, who wants to deal with all of the stress of being harrassed and mocked!

Also attached a great article above about the Father of vitamin c...did you take a peek?

Momine

There is no credible evidence that vitamin C therapy has any effect on cancer. It has been researched, repeatedly.