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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited December 2013


    Gma, withdrawal can really make you hypersensitive, for sure. My sympathies. It's a lot like being flogged after someone has removed your skin. I do like your picture although it makes me want to put on my coat. It's cold here, but cloudy with the possibility of sun breaks.


    4, if I had to do that much cooking in such a short time, I would go insane. Just cooking dinner almost puts me over the edge.


    Our senior center had a great fund raiser yesterday. People brought in old costume jewelry they were tired of. A committee priced it and put it out on tables by price. I got earrings for DIL, a necklace for DD, and 2 necklaces for me. All for $12. The sale made a lot of money for the center.


    I was a receptionist at the center yesterday and spent most of the time labeling fruitcake for the Christmas fair this weekend. We're part of a large neighborhood organization that has the fair every year on the first weekend in Dec. I'm selling fruitcake Sunday afternoon. Hopefully, it will all be gone and I can just enjoy the fair.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    GMA I'm glad u came back--this is  difficult time for u and it's a terrible feeling that u are having, I'm so sorry--we'll just do happy stuff, well try, that's what we want anyway we're here for support and caring and that's how it should be and right now u need all the support we cn give and I'm glad u came back and explained then we can make it better Can the Dr. give u something to help? Does he/she know how bad this has been for u--for some it's not as bad, but u'r dealing with more than 1 thing now. (((GMA)))

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Wren I have to ask cuz this is stupid I know---do a lot of people like fruitcake? Really I don't know 1 person that does, is it popular in other areas of the country? I remember when I ws little there was always a fruitcake at everyone's house and never eaten, for years I thought it was a decoration.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    4...Not sure what your apologizing for....................however


    I am a LE patient........went today to start over..........the therapist, very sweet and caring, pl;us good, told me I need to keep this under control........I too, got fed up, disgusted, depressed, and all that goes along with sleeves, bandages, and the like............so I stopped caring, and said "screw it"...........well she said that is not a good thing, cause this can come back "big time to bit me in the ass".................so, I met an excellent LT today, that is truely interested and caring about my LE............................so here I go again...........somehow I feel more confident now then I did 6 months ago........hope I am right...........will let everyone know how it goes.


    I have been on this thread for a long time........got a lot of help, laughs, tears, wonderful stories, and made a lot of amazing friends................if the people who know me well, know I am all for the "fun".........I am old, I do not drink, (not even Vodka)..............I am 'not that pretty, certainly not the prettiest, and by far not the smartest, although I can run with the best........I am also not the funniest, ;there are many much funnier then I................4.........you are one of them.......................I feel I have done nothing wrong, but if there are any of you ladies out there who would rather I leave STFU..........just say the word................I for one do not stay where I am not wanted..........for the record............I AM NOT A BULLY...................hopefully this post is not deleted by the Mods.........it is a heartfelt message for the friends I have made.............hugs.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited December 2013


    We sell out every year, so someone must like it - or perhaps they buy it for the office person they don't like. The cook uses dried fruit instead of candied. I still don't like it. MIL sent us a fruitcake one year. We dutifully ate 1 slice each, wrapped it up and put it in a lower kitchen cabinet, and forgot about it. We lived next to a farm and got mice in the house. DH said "Oh, they've gotten into the fruitcake!" Then he picked it up and discovered they had eaten the entire inside of the fruitcake leaving only a thin shell. It looked like an airplane hanger. There was a pile of raisins left. Mice evidently don't like raisins.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited December 2013

    Not even going to try to catch up.  I was four and a half pages behind.....zowie !!!!! I don't know how I manage, but I do a bang up job of it.  So saying hi and giving out hugs to anyone who might be short right now.  Cold as a witch's tit here and sleeting that will turn into some snow later.  Winter is here.....not breaking out the pom-pom's over it though.  

    Lilli

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013


    Wren, how rewarding to be part of something that has value...being part of the local community is important for our self...


    Gma, I wish I could take your misery away, I always feel when the physical symptoms are horrific, I could handle it if I just could take a break, an hour of relief...hoping for the best, I always tell myself that this too shall pass...is that from the bible? But when you are in it no words help..it's all crap...

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    Wren.............waiting for my yearly visitor...so far he has not shown up.......I use Peppermint Oil on cotton balls........last year it helped.


    Lilli..............oh boy .....my grandsons live in Chicago........not sure how close that is to you, but I guess they might be in for nasty weather too.................just stay in, if that's possible, and stay warm, if that's possible.....................................Oh how I hate the winter......................

  • flat13good
    flat13good Member Posts: 93
    edited December 2013

    I have missed the group and will try to get back on track with posting.

    Sassy  Thanks for the call yesterday it was very thoughtful and it is nice to know someone will be checking on me when I need it the most. I also hope your recent test scan. comes out good.   I have not been posting because I'm just to tired after work and then dinner and I'm done for the day.  This surgery was very good but it has taken more out of me than I expected.  I have a very busy friend that I don't get to see much so we took a trip this fall and she said that she was very worried about me. I told her the new me does not have the same stamina that I used to so not to worry. She said we will see next year when we do it agian.  I think 3 surgery's in one year was just a lot for me.  Next year will be better!   

    Now that they are gone  yes yes yes Happyhappy happy happy   I was going to ask if any of the flatsies out there have taken the route I did by having reconstruction and then removal.  If so I have questions on the recovery time and healing. I now have concave and then this lump ? muscle I think under the area that the breats was removed. It is much bigger on the radiated side  Does this ever go away or will they always be lumps.  I have one doctor telling me it will get smaller and then the PS says they won't and he can do things later to fix it. Not sure I want any more work done and why did he not do anything while he had me under the knife then.    Any information is welcome.  Just trying to adjust to the new lumpy look.  I guess that is what I get for never wearing a bra and developing muscles to keep them perky even at 53.


     

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013


    4444see & Ducky, I hate to distract you, cause you are one busy women...so you do not need to reply or explain anything right now...regarding LE, I had only 7 nodes removed,( which were bulging out the seams with bc, yikes! ) but have not had any Dr. check my arm, no appts With a pt, really do not even know what I should be looking for...I do know that you avoid blood draws, do not get sun burnt...I do stretching exercises for the incision...should I be more pro-active?

  • GmaFoley
    GmaFoley Member Posts: 7,091
    edited December 2013


    Just called the doc AGAIN. He told me to ride it out...

  • Di2012
    Di2012 Member Posts: 925
    edited December 2013


    ĞMA.....sending you gentle hugs!


    Have you. used a Scoplamine patch?


    i have used them for most of my cruises to prevent seasickness/nausea and "Being off balanced"


    After my surgery on Monday I was so nauseated, and my anti nausea pill were NOT working


    and my PS surgical nurse called day of surgery & 2nd day followup, I


    and was still sick, so PS gave me an RX for scoplamine patch...


    they are small patch that is placed behind the ear and stays on for 72 hours


    MY PS yesterday DID NOT TAKE MY SUTURES OUT THAT are holding my lower lids up so,


    I have these 2 strings/sutures on each eye, they go across my field of vision......taped vertically,above and below each eye, and II have quite the shiners too.


    My PS is not pleased so far with my brow lift....see him again tomorrow, he said


    "Ill take care of it if it does not self correct"


    MY FOOB FAT GRATING AND NIPS DID NOT HAPPENScared


  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    OK Ducky stay where u are, well I mean u can move around but don't leave.

    Holeinone Le can come at any time and usually u'r Dr. see;s it cus they look at u symmetrically, it can be a PITA for the most part, there's trunkal Le, legs, arm, hands that are somehow connected to it. I have it a few places and u should wear compression garments on  the area or limbs that have it--compression ideally should be about 20-30 comp. but on my legs I go 15-20 comp.I'm guilty I don't always wear my arm, hand or legs but I know I should--it's one of thos things that can just happen slowly or quickly. I don't sleep in any garments tho, but normally u an see  it u'rself. I saw a TV commercial for Tommy Copper for legs, trunks, arms and it's some new thing going to wear to alleviate pain from different things and they are compression, but I didn't look it up.

    Flats I filled with little bumps more on one side than the other???? But I do remember the BS saying something about my chest wall so it might be that.

    Ducky, Lilli's in Southern IL pretty far down, I'm not far from Chicago and it's just getting super cold right now (to me) and going to get colder with snow in sight, But they haven't said to much about big time stuff yet, but u never know--but the streets are fine.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited December 2013

    Yes...I'm four and a half hours away ( heading south from Cam ) from Chicago.  I live about 73 miles east of St. Louis, Mo.  Our part of southern Illinois is referred to as Little Egypt.  For some reason I lot of the truly nasty weather goes on all around us --  and that really works out good when you are talking tornado's.  We do get a good share though of cold and snow.  We could ( so they say ) get up to 7  inches, but I'm certainly hoping we don't.  It would be a couple days worth. 

    I usually look a little forward to winter....but just hate to go from a summer-like day to winter the next.  I would rather gentle into it.   Some of my dogs are ok though......the big Black Lab Retriever is all over and Baby Boss the Pomeranian are in their element.  They like the cold I think. 

    Di, glad your done with your surgery.  I hope the Dr. is right and a little time will get your eyebrows where they need to be.  Glad you got something that will get rid of the nausea. 

    Lilli

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited December 2013


    4 it's for the left arm.


    If ANY body wants the thing, PM me


    Ducky, you stay right here


    And I am weird. I will admit to liking fruitcake. Does that make me one? I like more fruit than cake in them, wrap them in bourbon for a few weeks before cutting. Ummmmmm

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited December 2013


    Ducky, you don't have to leave.... No-one has to leave.... We are all so different.... Besides, I thought you said you WERE the prettiest! I'm not going to say anything about being older.... Loopy


    Some of us, like Cammi, knows a lot about phone stuff.... so she thinks..... and some like me know about Chickens..... Some of us know a LOT of medical information that only helps US when we ask their opinion... I mean nurses, Doctors get cancer too, and it helps us, if we have someone else to talk things over with.


    And I don't mind fun pictures also! In fact, I love when they make me laugh.... Or make me "swoon"..... (that's right along the time of hubba-hubba!)..... So it's just nice to have a lot of gals with different interests, and problems..... Maybe we can help, or at least offer each other support, and some warm hugs....


    I just made those Red Lobster bisquits! Man, are THEY good! And some beef over Grandma's Noodles! There is enough for everyone, in case you want to get out in this weather.... It is now 8.8 degrees out!

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013


    Cami, thx for the LE info..I will ask to be checked out it 2 weeks....

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited December 2013

    I wrote a long msg and lost it.  To summarize...

    Ducky don't leave. You are important.  Everyone has stuff to offer.  Anything that offends can be overlooked. :)

    Di sorry you didn't get the fat graft and nips.  Next time.. 

    Sas hope you are doing well. I always really appreciate all of the great information you provide.  Please keep it up.

    4444 - please don't overdo.  And keep up the pictures. I love em.  ;)

    We got our washer dryer and fridge today. Hubby is taking our first charity load.  I'm still on the parttime gig. Looking forward to its conclusion, but appreciate the money. This is paying for our new appliances. :)

  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited December 2013


    Ok, I am ass deep right now so don't have much time! And why do my kids pick NOW to be hungry or say " I have a final tomorrow and need to read all of To Kill a Mockingbird"? But then his brother can't find the copy we bought last year. But yeah, it's an open book test and I need a hard copy! And my guitar is out of tune and I can't practice for my recital...etc.....etc...


    Ok, back on subject! Nobody needs to leave! I have been telling my kids for years, even before all my chit, when kids would be mean or crappy at school...well I would always tell them that you don't know what that person has going on behind the scenes. Maybe something bad is going on at home or maybe they always feel left out, or maybe they can't afford stuff like what you have and it makes them angry. You just never know unless someone shares the information and even at is subject to perception. They may think what is happening to them is awful and you might not think it is that big of a deal. So until you know what's up, treat them like you would want them to act towards you and give it more than a fair chance. We have run across kids that were almost homeless, or had a really sick parent, etc...by taking this approach and have been able to help out this way. Sometimes the underdogs need to stick together too!


    SO...I think this kind of applies here too. We don't know unless the others share what is going on. Sometimes they just don't share because they really want someone to care enough to ask. We don't know if someone waiting on test results is super worried, or if meds are making us crazy, or if mothers are, or if something else is getting under our skin. We just don't know. And everything here just like email is subject to interpretation and perception.


    We all ended up here for one REALLY CRAPPY reason, but we all found our way here to each other! Let's keep it that way through thick and thin!


    Ok I am done being "Life Preachy" as my kid would say!


    Back to work, won't over do, but it feels nice to be able to. Things never felt really off normal but it sure feels good to just be back to basics!


    Love you girls!

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Di Are u all puffy and hyrting--don't try to read if u started and don't use the computer well I'd guess u'd have to read this in order to know what I'm saying---Oh just rest.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    Holeinone.....I make a practice of being careful what I say when it comes to medical stuff......however with LE the sooner it is taken care of the better.......mention your suspicions to you Dr.....anyone is good...RO, MO, or PCP......they will recommend a LE therapist.....make sure it is an LE specialist........make the appt, and they will take it from there..


    Everyone does not get LE......know 2 people who had 25/30 nodes removed and nothing....I had 8, because the dye failed to show the SN.....all clean, but I got LE.....could have been from the Rads........could also be my lymph system was out of wack before LE...


    Best advice......have it checked out to be certain.....hugs.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Ducky I got LE during my rads, that doesn't mean that rads caused it--but the Dr. noticed it and I was in therapy pretty fast to an LE specialist and I think it does make a difference so I was treated promptly, but my sister, didn't my cousin didn't, my niece didn't so whatever??? So I don't know if there is a reason or not. As usual

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    Cami.....there is a reason, but it does vary widely, so everyone has a different reason for getting it....have my new LE therapist, and love her.....so thorough but dealing with insurance info.........coverage........people who know little, but work for the same company.....(Aetna)........it gets scary when you have to tell them what is and is not covered from past experience.....when you got a custom fit sleeve, fitted wrong, made wrong, but covered just the same...covered mind you back in 2011...sent back.....gave up because no one could get it right......back to start over......now some idiot says...."not covered".........still another person says....." No we cover that".............again I am so frustrated I was near tears on the phone........starting over, get someone great who truly cares about my LE...and now the insurance is the problem..before it was the fitters.....said to the woman at Aetna today..".HOW ABOUT I CUT MY ARM OFF, AND THEN I WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT ANYMORE...........OH BUT HOLD ON.....WILL YOU PAY FOR THE AMPUTATION" ........just so fed up......

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited December 2013


    I like fruitcake. Especially the kind with more fruits and nuts than cake. I also like white-batter fruitcake more than the spiced fruitcake. However, there is nothing worse than bad fruitcake and nothing better than a good one.


    I agree with Ducky-get checked out for LE. Better to be told you don't have it than wait for treatment.


    30 degrees here. Severe storm warning starting at 2 AM for cold weather and snow. Glad I don't have to go to work tomorrow.


    Everyone stay warm and safe.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2013


    Ducky I was offered by DH's insurance a Case Manager last year. I never returned her calls because I didn't really feel I needed it. My tx went pretty straightforward so I felt it would be a waste of resources. But I would have in an instant if I felt she could have helped me along. I bet knowing how big Aetna is they have the same thing. This was BCBS. MIght be worth a try. At least every time someone denies you something you can go to CM and pursue it. Kinda like the bulldogging effect.


    In the meantime we need to huddle together for warmth. Sleeting like crazy here. DH home and DD home in her apt. Worse yet during the night - tons of freezing rain. Pray our power stays on. Prob. not above freezing until Sun/Mon.


    Sassy - I did get bathtub stopper today since neither holds water well. DH says don't I think the water co has generators. Told him not taking a chance. My toilet's gonna flush. Town next door has a nice Ace Hardware. I think I need to shop there again. Got de-icer too!


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    Oh, I know I forgot something. I love fruitcake. I have the mix in the baking drawer. DH despises it. My DM used to order herself a Corsicana fruitcake (famous around here) every year for just herself. I might have to bake tomorrow but no time to coat in bourbon (because I want to eat it now Lol).

  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited December 2013


    Multi tasking while I eat home made chicken soup. Warm here, too warm but raining like hell


    I like fruitcake just not with the citron bitter stuff in it! And booze is always ok!


    I could have a case manager too. Talked with one that had lots of info. When I headed for chemo they sent me to someone else but I didnt keep up. It's Cigna.


    Yes, get the LE checked out. Even just for a baseline. You can be fine and two years later turn up with a problem! I went to mine 1 week after first Mx. The theory is prevention so you done get it. I had awful cording too. Besides the massage and stretch feels good! Make sure like the girls said that it is a specialist!


    Ducky glad you like new lady! Cami you are so right no rhyme, no reason!


    Heading back out in the rain for work!


    Sas, any test results yet?

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    luv......did have a case mgr. right after the BC episode.....she was fantastic....got my custom sleeve, pulled all the strings for me......after you move along eventually they leave you....


    The sleeve which she got approved and they made kept coming in wrong, so I gave up.......arm is getting a little larger, so fear has sent me back, however...no case mgr now, so doing this on my own, with Aetna reps who have no clue what is and is not covered....found a rep today who finally gave me more pertinent info.......fighting the good fight, and I am armed with a little more info tonight.....will continue to pursue this.....


    Sure wish I had my case mgr. back......


    Thanks for caring.......please stay warm.....

  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited December 2013


    Mine wasn't quite right and had to be remade too. It sucks to have to stay on top of the insurance and always end up with a different person on the phone. Good luck getting them straight. Good news is you like the LEPT lady and she is taking care of you. The bill you can worry about later. Trust me, they will call forever looking for their money! Good to nip it in the bud too!


    Ok, soups gone. No more excuses, back to work!

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited December 2013


    4.... It is frustrating........gave up before after all the screw ups.....back to square 1, but will get it right this time.....not giving up....before I was dealing with Rads, fatigue, and decided enough was enough.......now I am just dealing with idiots, who know nothing about coverages....well 2 did, and going with their lead.......phew...

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited December 2013

    Ducky Mine was a big mess too with insurance--BluCrossBs/ nd I was told I was covered and it paid 1/3 of it, I was so upset--oh it fit but I got blindsided with that. I don't understand why everything we do is confusion, well t least to me.

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