STFU (Shut the F*** UP)

crog234

I also have gotten those optic migraines. That's what my optometrist called them. The first time I got one I was at work and thought I had gotten something in my eye. Tried washing it out and that didn't work. Then I thought maybe I had looked up at the light. My eyes are very sensitive to lights. Knock on wood I have not had one in quite some time now...

Cindy AKA Squishy

marywh

Hi all, slept all day after a hard night of dancing-ha-ha. Heels and I do not get along anymore. Wedding was fun, lots of old ladies (including me) were teaching the younger ones the old dances, anyone remember the pony and the monkey?and they were teaching us the newest in line dances. It was actually pretty hysterical. Wedding really turned out very pretty..Bride was not too bridezilla yesterday and ds looked very happy. Got tons of pictures, now just have to figure out how to post them. It was too cold for an outdoor wedding though, but they had heaters in the reception tent, so it turned out ok. Gs was on his best behavior and did really good as the ring bearer, only picking his nose once, and pulling up his shirt to show his muscles a couple times, but all in all he did well for a 3 year old. Tomorrow I start chemo again, if my bronchitis is better,have to call mo in the morning. Welcome to all new hoolies. Anybody heard from Veggy?

ChickaD

Hugs Miss Mary...kick chemo's a$$

sas-schatzi

Hmmm 6 and counting on the optic migraine---Interesting........The first one IS scarey after that they are just beautiful. All sparkley. Flashing. I'll see what I can find on causes and stats. Actually, they are the "Aura" for standard migraine, we just don't get the headache. Lucky

Mary, so happy you had a great time, and bridezilla was not bridezilla.  Cute about GS. Hope Chemo goes well

duckyb1

optic migraines are to be taken serious.......had them....it could be the beginning of a detached retina......it happened to me, and that is how it began, my Opthomologist hold me when it happens to call him. And you can get pain, and if that happens call right away........I find the flashing to be extremely annoying, neither sparkley or beautiful......

So Crog.....they are something to be taken seriously......and my Dr is Chief at Wlls a Eye Hospital in Philly.....have already had 1 laser surgery for a torn retina, and that is how it began......with an Optic migraine...

ChickaD

This was my beautiful view from my front porch this afternoon...

duckyb1

Chick....."double wow".........and some say there is no God.........beautiful....

flat13good

Thanks to all for the warm welcome. I have been busy all weekend getting ready for surgery but I took some time out to go to a Guitar Blow Out Music and BBQ is was really fun great food great music and great friends. My ears are ringing........ I have never had that kind of headache but it does not sound harmless I agree on checking it out at the Optho Docs I get floaters and he say not to worry as long as I'm not having flashers at the same time. I used to play out late into the night but now and afternoon of fun wipes me out. So silly I love my live music so I just have to go sometimes and pay for it later.

Alyson

Chicky that is so beautiful.

Don't laugh but I have lost a boob! Well a foob, can't find it anywhere.

Teka

sas, is the eczema flare up calming down?

Teka

Looks like the trees are on fire.

Lovely!

flat13good

You make me laugh I will get to try foobs out after Tuesdays removal. Hope you find it.

duckyb1

Flat my Dr said the same thing.....he is a Specialist....not an Optomitrist....there is a huge difference....an Opthomologist is an MD, an Optometrist is not...as I said....I have to be careful, because it can happen again...more common with age, and if you have already had one....likely you could get a torn retina in the other eye......

Spookiesmom

Very pretty Chick, but not enough to make me move back.

Alyson, HOW do you loose a foob? I don't have any to loose, but still.......

Frisk the grand kids! That'd be the first place to look Mine would have them too. Boys, 6 & 8.

ChickaD

Miss Alyson...I think this snowman found it.....lol

Teka

camillegal

Chickie hahahaha and u'r view is beautiful.

Alyson who were u playing with---I lost one once--I hardly ever wear them but my cat took it and thought it was a new toy for her. Feel better Alyson.

marywh

I just cant wear those things anyway.I'll send you mine, Alyson.

Joysley

Just call me Joy.... and Mary, I want to hear about the wedding. I love to dance too.

juliaanna

You can add me to the optic migraine list. My mom had a retina detach 3 times before she lost sight in that eye and I'm very near-sighted like she is. When I had my first one, it scared the begeebers out of me. I headed to my ophthalmologist, too. Haven't had one for quite awhile.

Hope everyone has a good week, or at least a good Monday. Me, I am cooking lunch for veterans who live in the Assisted Living where I am one of the nurses.

Anonymous

You guys make me laugh!  Best of luck tomorrow, miss Mary.  I hope you have your nameplate in your favorite chair.

P

IllinoisLady

Count me in on the ocular migraines....though I'm late reading and therefore mentioning them. Mine caused me to not really be able to see much of anything, but after about an hour or so it started getting better and better till good vision returned. Scary the first time......of course, I thought I was going blind and now slowly either.

Lilli

crog234

thanks Ducky for the info..

Cindy AKA Squishy

Chevyboy

Morning gals.... kind of amazing that there are so many of us that HAVE had an Ocular Migraine. I never had a head-ache with mine... and they only lasted about 20 min. I know Jackie! The first one I had made it hard to even focus! Couldn't read, or even see the face of a clock.

But since then, about 25 years ago, I only get them maybe once every 2 years or so...And my eyes are still very good.... I only wear glasses when driving.... and I can read the paper, and books without the reading-glasses...... DH HAS to use reading glasses.... And taking him shopping withOUT his glasses is a trip! I have to read all the prices, and usually WHAT it is! One time he picked up this "stuff" out of the Deli.... got home, and I couldn't figure out WTH was over $9!!!! So I called the store, gave them the bar-code, and it was for "Sushi" out of that Deli!

HE did it! He couldn't read what it was, NOR, evidently how MUCH it was...Ha! He just thought it was those Spring Roll rice things...

camillegal

Chevy hahahahaha U'r DH,, did 2 ever eat it-I know I wouldn't.

And I can't believe so many of u have this ocular thing--I've never heard of it. ever. And it sounds so common. Well God forbid but at leastI know of them now, just in case, cuz I would freak out.

Well I've got to get my business together for any phone calls and organiz my rides for my /dr stuff next week--usually I do that last minute and I get all screwed up so we'll se--Les said they have a service from the hospital too--so if it's done that'll take the worry off of her. So see I have a full day for me anyway. LOL

sas-schatzi

Yup I agree, My first optic migraine, I went to an opthamoligist , Love my docs. he saw me within the hour. Not a retina problem. Sent me right away to a neurologist who sent  for an MRI of the brain to rule out a brain tumor problem, all in the same day. MRI's were new in the 80's. The noise they made then was much more than they make now. NOISY. Whew.

All things are not the same. No physical problem seen. That's when the dx was given. The key to ANY new change is see your doc. I think everyone that posted sought medical care right away.

The symptoms for a detached retina have some things in common with an optic migraine, but a detached retina is different than an optic migraine. Each have specific characteristics. Looking in the eye is the first step for any eye problem. If changes in the retinal field can be seen then they can be managed. Detached retina and retinal artery occlusion are emergency conditions that need intervention rapidly to prevent permanent disability.. Multiple tests can be done on the eye to rule out other things that may be causing the symptoms. No retinal changes, no tear. All had the eye looked at first. Once the inside of the eye is determined NOT to be the origin of the problem, then the brain should be evaluated. Once all organic problems are ruled out. The diagnosis by exclusion is optic /ocular migraine A diagnosis by exclusion means----everything else has been excluded. Of all the eye problems when ranked, an optic/ocular migraine is the least troublesome.

Each optic/ocular migraine has it own pattern for an individual. There are commonalities, but the six here, if we compared ours, we would find differences. For me as I said in my first post, after mine was determined not to be dangerous. I was offered medicine to prevent future occurences.. BUT all drugs have consequenses. The Beta blocker--Inderal offered me has system wide affects. Of particular concern to me at the time, in 1988, was it's cardiac affect. Weighing he inconvenience of the visiual disturbance against the potential of untoward cardiac affect. I chose to just enjoy the optic flashing and beautiful light show.

Detached retina can run in families. An individual that has had a detached retina can be prone to have another one

A phrase in nursing/ medicine that's use thousands of time a day is "If symptoms change or worse see your doc or go to ER"

Everytime I have an optic migraine, I'm evaluating whether it's different than the thousands I've had before. When it isn't. I just enjoy them.

Optomerist are not M.D.'s. But they are trained in school to recognize eye emergencies. An optometrist would refer up the chain to an opthomalogist. In my case, once the eye was ruled out as the source of the problem, the opthamologist referred up the chain to a neurologist.  Just as a PCP is trained to recognize all system abnormalities or at least have an index of suspicion, they are not qualified to handle all system problems. A PCP refers up the chain to a specialist for a problem outside their scope of training. As everyone has noted here, all practioners  are not equal in the quality of care they render.

For the 6 of us that have been dx'd as Optic/ocular migraines, statistically it is unusual to have that many in one group. I found one stat that said 1/200 experiences purely optic migraines. Two have conditions that are diagnostically different and managed differently.

sas-schatzi

Just saw Lilli's post, our ocular/optic migraine count is ---7 Again from many post ago---Interesting.

crog234

thanks Sas for that info. When I had my first one I did go see my eye Doctor who looked in my eyes and did whatever it is he did to tell me that it was fine. He also told me that there was no rhyme nor reason for them at least at that time.. I know one of the questions he asked me was wether I get a headache with them. Other than that I don't remember other than he said not to worry about them unless something changed with them... I haven't had one in quite some time now.

Cindy AKA Squishy

sas-schatzi

Hi Squishy, same with my doc. Do you dislike or enjoy the "show"?

My first one was also different than all after ones. The visual field distortion presented as half of each person's face was bizarre. Part of my 1988 research, I found a reference that Lon Chaney Senior, was thought to have the condition. His characters all had severely distorted faces. He was a master at creating macbre characters.  I'll go see if it's been written about since. My 1988 search was in the medical library. No INTERNET WEB then.  Edit: no reference. LC SR. two most famous characters were Quasimodo and the Phantom of the Opera. Each were severely distorted on one side.

luvmygoats

Yes mine too asked about a headache which I do not get with them. I've only had one while driving and it was just city streets so not too bad. Mostly I get them sitting here at computer. But the 1st one I got was while unloading the car for a camping trip. Sassy - beta blockers do nothing for mine. I'm on metoprolol. But now have Cosopt for L eye so will see if the beta blocker in that drop does affect it. Mine always starts the same place and disappears the same way about 30-40 minutes. I've had 2 back to back with about 2 hours separation. Those were the 1st since the camping trip incident and the ones that prompted the optometrist visit. He is (well was, now retired) very good, very thorough. Caught my glaucoma, PTL. I had not had one for several months until last week. I think stress related since we were very busy last week, too many appointments for a few weeks.