In shock

liefie

Nihahi, yes, enough already. That's why those makeovers are so mindblowing to me - LOL! So happy for you that you are doing so well 3 weeks later. Independence is so important. It sucks to be weak, and have other people take care of you. On the other hand, I think they appreciate much more what you actually normally do.

 Tomorrow will be busy. The company are good old friends from Alberta, and it will be so lovely to see them. Don't know about the 'gourmet' part, but it's going to be curried pork chops on the barbecue and salads, because it is going to be hot here. Good night, sleep well!

Scottiee1

Alive, sorry I have been neglectful in really saying hi to you. As the gals here will tell you,

I don't post often enough but do read and all of you are in my prayers and thoughts daily.

The women here are amazing and will listen and support you all the way. And as the mods commented, we have come a long way since 1995!!!

nihahi

Liefie, I also sent you a PM. I have posted my feelings on being "jumped on" on the Diep thread. Sure to start another row, but honestly, surely there is room for more than one point of view!!!!!!! Sometimes I feel like I should just leave the thread to the ladies who want the bodies of twenty years ago! I'm almost 63, I've got good health, I've taken care of my body all these years, but it has 63 years of living, I have grey hair, I need bifocals......so what!!!! There is a limit to I want/need to feel genuinely "me". 

liefie

Nihahi, don't you stop posting! Of course there are different opinions, and one would hope that people will respect that, and be mature/confident enough not to feel 'attacked' if someone's opinion is different from theirs. Unfortunately there are always a few who want to defend their viewpoints . . . sigh! I agree 100% with your last two sentences. Good for you on posting your feelings. Hopefully they will get it, and realize that no malice was intended.

Enjoy your day, and don't let this bother you. 

Dakota212

Hi ladies -



Love my foobs as fake as they are oh well. Getting nipples in July

Already had hockey now at soccer lacrosse later then relax !!! Hope all u ladies have a great day !!

nihahi

My dear Dakota......if you are happy with your new girls, they are not fake, they are you!!!!!!!!! I really, really, really have an issue with ladies who feel it's their way or nothing!!!!!!!

Have a great day yourself!

Traii.....hope things are a bit better for you????? You're such a trouper, I think you struggle a whole lot more with issues that you don't reveal. I think you are awesome....hang in there! You really need to get some solid sleep....can you ask your doc for some help with that????

Edi....you ok? Quieter than usual, I'm thinking shedman has weighed heavily on you and hubby. 

Liefie...I've gotten a number of "I agree with you" PM's regarding the diep controversy, but no "open support". I'm just sayin.....

Websister....how's the back???? Back pain is such a "pain" isn't it! If you are in contact with Benny, tell her we're thinking of her and wish her well.

Alive and Maria....thinking of you.

liefie

Nihahi, only saw your post now. Had a busy, but a very nice day. Don't know what to say other than for you to not allow this to bother you any more. There will always be people who interpret things differently than they are meant. It was just one word that sparked the whole ridiculous controversy. Your peace of mind is much more important than anything else at this stage of our recovery. I sent you another pm. Please don't lose any sleep over this. It is just not worth it. Have a good night!

Moviemaniac

Bellies, can't sleep, so will post......



Nihahi, I have Pm'd you, and also replied on DIEP thread.....where you have received wide support, and voices begging you not to leave (including mine).....I agree with Liefie, don't allow this to cloud your participation-your opinion is valuable to many on that board, and if some disagree, I find it more a reflection on them (in not allowing for another point of view different from theirs) than on ANY wrongdoing from your end. I think I may have reacted almost identically to you, had I been so wrongly accused.....but you are appreciated by a HUGE majority over there, so don't let a very vocal minority silence your voice! XO



Liefie, you are a terrific woman! Hope you will be in MY corner should I ever need it!



To all: wishing you a good night, and a great day tomorrow.....will pop in then and write more......codeine cough syrup is kicking in, and spelling is getting more difficult ! Love to all!



Namaste and God bless - Jackie

scouser47

Hi sistas    been hectic here for few days. Saturday went to meet oldest and dearest friends in Liverpool, had chinese takeaway which was lovely. Talked about old days and laughed until we cried. Toasted shedman who was sorely missed. We took pick and sent it to him with love yesterday. He rang and sounded wonderful. They managed to get very fine feeding tube in and he is now fed and watered feeling loads better. He is seeing main man Tuesday to see what is next but still sounds positive.Thanks to you all for thoughts and prayers for him.
Yesterday went water feature hunting, the e.bay one was faulty so DH had hysterics and it is going back.
He sourced and built his own yesterday and LOVE it, GD came with ED and GD helped dig the hole !
We have a little memorial garden for our beloved yorkie Molly who crossed the rainboww bridge 18 months ago.GD tidies and talks to Mol  each time she visits.
ED had me in tears when she said, GD has a magical stone on which she talks to God,Molly also has a stone but did not answer her last call. " Jesus must have taken her out for her walk " was GD's reasoning.
Noone ever tells her to do these things, we are soooo blessed.
Bank Holiday Monday today, supposed to be SUNNY hope it is planting out to do.

Caitlin, round 7  and just one more, isn't it a lovely feeling ? I DO feel free as a bird, slightly weary bird but so GOOD.
Your sisters sound really special glad you being spoilt. xx

Alive, in my thoughts every day, rest and repair your brave spirit. what will be will be get those big pants on with lots of pockets for the sisters to look after you.
Defo NO GOOGLE, my ED told my surgeon I had been doing that and he told me off good style lol. Never again.
Hope flooding no where near you.xx

Nihahi, hi brave warrior you sound freakin amazing !! Get lot of sayings from f/book they seem to pop up when I need them and like to share.
ED remo !! building work almost done,but the stupid workmen decided to clean her VERY expensive bi fold doors which are the whole back wall of house and SCRATCHED the frame !! SODDING IDIOTS. they had better sort them out.
Her new bathroom delivered this morning, NO SINK and toilet cistern damaged, she wanted to know if it was too early for wine at 9am lol.
Hope you are still feeling good xx

Traii, you too are in my thoughts every day, especially when I am with my daughters. Hope you here soon and that your aches and pains improving.
Love that DS thinks you are like Fireman Sam, you are much more brave.xx

Luvmy,love you lotsand hope you are well xx

Websister,great that you could empathise with Alive and the nausea, worry and fear does some horrendous things.
Hope you having fun with little chicks they are a gift from God aren't they.xx

Maria,I was  the opposite and lay so still I think they thought I had passed away lol The arm behind head was worst bit left shoulder really sore.
Take carexx

Carla, hope you ok and fires no where near you xx

Liefie, trainer on hols yay, Edi would just lay about and eat lol You are made of stronger stuff and will fly through the procedure.
Boat on lake sooooo jealous xx

Curveball,good to hear from you xx

Scottie,hope tiredness lifts soon, greek bbq yum xx

Dakota, hi gorgeous one, hope chicks not wearing you out too  much.Real or implants boobs are boobs. You are youno matter what.xx

Will try and put on some pics ina minute if photobucket doesnt bugger them up.

Laters xx

scouser47

Pic we sent to dear shedman, all the gang from fifty years of friendship.

DH and GD digging the hole, hope not to bury EDi lol.

Traii

arghhhh was typing too fast then boom, lost everything just as i was about to hit 'send'.....shite shite shite!!!

 Had a great day today with mum, dad and DS. Then DH called and said he was on his way home and to be ready so he could take DH to the park before it gets dark. Yippppeee, don't know who was more excited, DS or mummy!! It was an ok day today, sunny, little chill but not that bad. We went to a different park that was only built a few months back. We went on the flying fox, on the slide and of course mummy had her fun on the swing! DS and I went on this spinny thingy...well I had to tell DH to stop it before I got dizzy and fell out (yes the boys were laughing at me !!!)

Nihahi, you are my inspiration. 20 years post BC and you are still a warrior til this very day inspiring us all, if it's not with your beautiful pics of nature or your courageous mountain hikes, to this....recovering from DIEP to be rid of the alien. We are all so proud of you. x I'm ok....been a bit up and down. You know when you always have BC in the back of your head. Surgery is one thing i'm a little stressed over.....but then I hear your story and Dakota recovering really well and I think, yes, that will be me, just go in there, get it done and it will be over. Then I can have my life back!! right?

Liefie, how did your night of entertaining go ? Bet you were tired by the end of it !

Movie, oh how i love lamb on a spit.. we had that actually on New Years Eve. My dad loves cooking up a storm when there are people coming over. Just today actually he made my fav when I was at home, I never cook it but he did and made extra big dish to give to me. So dinner done. No cooking required tonight!

Edi, cyber mommy. I think of you too. Your pics are gorgeous as always and the story about your GD and her magical stone is cute. DS sings 'Twinkle twinkle little star' to his great grandparents that he never ever knew. We were driving the other night actually when DS says, mummy, look at the stars and he said he's grandparents names and it brought a tear to my eye...actually I was an emotional wreck that day and bursted into tears.....!! Don't you just love those days you get all emotional and all you want to do is cry. Have no idea why!!! So happy that Shedman is getting there. God bless him too.

Dakota, yeh next step nipples.  I'm looking on the internet and I'm liking the 3D tattoos. My BS was telling me at her other hospital where she treats private patients, the BC Nurse actually does them...so she is going to get the details for that.  Hope you are not too busy at work !

Scottiee, how you doing ? hope you keeping busy but relaxing at the same time!!

Caitlin, sorry to hear you've been experiencing tingling/numbness in the fingers. Unfortunately mine has gotten worse. It has it's good days and bad days. I hate waking up in the middle of the night with severe pain. My onc and GP didn't mention Vit B and didn't know about that . My GP however mentioned Vit C because he had major surgery on his arm last year and has been taking Vit C daily and hasn't had much neuropathy he says by taking that. I'm going to go and see the pharmasist tomorrow to see what they recommend.

 Maria and Alive, thinking of you and hoping things are getting better with your decisions. Check in when you get a chance to let us know you're ok.

All you other gorgeous girls out there, thinking of you.

Take care and enjoy your day / night xx

liefie

Traii, same just happened to me! Wrote a long post which then promptly vanished into thin air - so frustrating. Will rewrite later. DH gave me some work in the garden, and I want to do it before it gets too hot.

Traii

Oh I hate that Liefie

Go enjoy the sunshine...have fun. Im heading off to bed x

MariaNL

Hello lovely ladies,

I have a question starting yesterday my right underarm is having sharp pains is this normal? Thinking my nerves are waking up?



Had a great weekend my bff set up a fundraiser casino bus for me. It was so heartwarming to see all my friends and family come out to support us.



Not working is really setting in haven't had this much time off since my 19 year old was born.



Liefie, Traii I hate when that happens you write something you think is great and wham it's gone.



Edi love your pics. Nothing like spending time with an old friend to make your heart feel good.



Movie so sorry your not sleeping well. I had a rough one last night as well



Nihahi I don't know why people were jumping on you but you have every right to feel how you feel and post what you want to post.



Dakota I can't wait till I have perky foobs as well we have to get something out of this nightmare don't you know.

Dakota212

Hi ladies -



Had the worst day with the cockroach yet. Thank god I changed the locks. Finally have him the ultimatum and will stick to it. Move home by Sunday or we are done. I told the kids how sorry I was but that someday they would understand. I told them they would have to do the every other weekend thing they are not happy but I can't liveije this anymore. Soooooo Mother's Day justify be a new freedom for me !!! Sorry I know off the BC topic but I had to vent cuz I can't stop crying. Edi - I think I got some inner strength from ur mom !!!! Hugs girls !!!!! Muah !!!

nihahi

Oh Dakota......Just want to be there and hug you. We can all offer our opinions, but it doesn't change the fact that you are the one living the nightmare. You are such a loving, involved Mom, your kids already know in their hearts who their "true parent" is. As you move forward, into a better, safer, happier life, they will quickly understand the wisdom and truth in your actions. (((((((X)))))))

liefie

Dakota, big hugs to you! It must be heart wrenching now, but you know it's for the better. You're such a great mom who always unselfishly puts her children first, and they know this, rest assured. This will pass, the sooner the better for all of you. You can cry on our shoulders any time you feel like it. I admire you, and I think you are an amazing, very strong woman. Best wishes!

Moviemaniac

Dakota.....feeling for you just now, and sending big cyber((((Hugs)))) your way. This IS gut-wrenching, but you are a strong woman (look what you've done to the BC bitch) and you WILL survive this, too! I second everything Nihahi and Liefie have said, and remind you we have broad shoulders on here, and are here for you anytime. XO



To the rest of you Bellies.....have been sick, and only a kerfuffle on DIEP board has gotten me up and posting.....hope everyone else is doing alright......have missed the chitchatting this weekend, but needed to rest to beat this nasty cold into submission! I have been looking, but not posting as too fuzzy-headed from cold meds to think very well....so guess what I did?!? I booked a flight to Sapporo, Japan to visit DD#3 for a week! She's a master manipulator and has been laying the guilt on pretty thick about how her boyfriend's family (ALL of them) have been over to visit, and poor her, NO ONE from her family has come......boohoo! So........I spent 100,000 air miles , and away I will go! Scared s***less about landing in Tokyo and not being able to find my connecting flight, but, I will put my big-girl panties on, and I am sure all will be well! (Edi-am starting to save up more miles to visit YOU next!!!! ;P )



Thinking about all you wonderful women, and sending warm cyber X's and O's out to all.......have to run-must finish up taxes for a non-profit I help to run....will get on later and chat more!



Namaste and God bless - Jackie

Dakota212

Thank you ladies - I would go thru what I went thru for BC anytime then have to deal with a cheating and lying husband. I am so relieved to have given the ultimatum and I am ready to move on. This limbo thing is awful

!!! Hope u all have a much better day !!

Traii

Dakota. GOOD ON YOU. This time Im sure he knows you're not playin and you mean business!!! Lets see what happens on Sunday!!!

The kids will get over it. This I believe will be better for you all.

You have come a long way thrpugh all this and a stronger women. Oh how I wish we were closer I would be over in a flash for a big hig...so instead cyber hugs it is I guess!!



Movie how cool....japan....well bet your dd is happy now

liefie

Dakota, more hugs to you, brave woman!

Movie, hope you feel better soon. Japan - how wonderful! DD must be over the moon! Don't be scared of Tokyo airport - sure there will be good signage directing you where to go. When are you planning to visit Edi? I want to go with, and have some airmiles saved up too - lol. Of course I will be in your corner if you need me - I believe in fairness and honesty, and will fight tooth and nail for it.

Edi, so happy to hear shedman is better! Fifty years of friendship is wonderful, and you look so beautiful and classy on the photo. You GD is special indeed, magical stone and all. So precious. Weather here around 30 C today, glorious. Still a little snow on the mountains, but it's melting fast. Was outside to do the 'work' DH gave me, namely to water his flower baskets hanging from the trees around the house, and all the pots. It is the only garden task he trusts me with - suits me! It seems summer is here. Last year it only came in July, so we'll take it.

Traii, glad you had an enjoyable time at the park. Sometimes so nice to let go, and become a child again for a short while! Entertaining went well. Barbecued curried pork chops with broccoli salad, baked sweet potato and pear-strawberry-spinach salad with soft goat cheese. Also made dough, and baked buns on the barbecue, a real traditional South African treat. It takes patience, because they have to go long and slow, but the result is so worth it with the smoky flavour and nice grill marks. Tastes divine with butter and honey, or jam like apricot or strawberry. Everybody loves it. For dessert we had fresh fruit salad and frozen yoghurt. Guess what we're eating tonight? Leftovers!

Nihahi, phew! Glad we're back on an even keel, eh? Hopefully you are relaxing with a good book, or enjoying a nice walk.

Everybody else, good wishes to you. Hope you are having a good day. The Siamese princess is looking daggers at the laptop taking up her place, so have to give her some cuddles. See you later! 

nihahi

Movie....I've been to (flew in and out of) Tokyo. You will find lots of English signage. Don't worry. Also, I found the Japanese people to generally be extremely courteous and helpful....many obviously went well out of their way, even altering their destinations, to escort us to where we were trying to go, and ensured that we were where we needed to be. You may likely find people coming up to you, asking if they can have their picture taken with you. Many, many Japanese enjoy practicing speaking English with you! Quite funny, actually. It should be a wonderful trip.....when are you going? I found the incredible time difference going over, not to be to much of a challenge...coming back, I crashed for several days! 

Liefie.....sadly, I can't truthfully describe my emotions as "even keeled" yet. I still feel quite guarded in what I am comfortable/safe in posting, nor have the people who seemed to direct their anger towards me, posted any message of apology/understanding that I am aware of. I'm not holding my breath for it, though.

liefie

Nihahi, you have earned my respect for the way you handled the situation. Can understand your sentiments at this stage. In a few days time this will be in the past, and you will feel more 'natural' posting there again. Just came from that thread; there's a small olive branch for you there. Hugs!

Moviemaniac

Nihahi-just echoing Liefie.....very nicely done!  I think the ladies on that thread would just like to forget it even happened, so don't be worried what anyone might be thinking......and there was a gesture......(a good one).

Leaving on May 24th-arriving on May 25th.  Just there for one week....will be so d**m tired when I return, I'll probably get sick again....this was ideal time to go-daughter has some days off, and my surgery has been postponed-a win/win I guess you could say.....

Have to run....will try and post later!

Namaste and God bless - Jackie

websister

Hi everyone



Dakota - adding my hugs and support to everyone else's



Edi - love the pictures and stories. I agree with Liefie, you look so good. Love GD with your DH, she is a treasure.



Nihahi - you are an inspiration to me. If/when I decide to have my surgery I want you to still be here giving out your wisdom, stories and support. My reasoning for having surgery would be just to be able to buy regular lingerie and put on a swimsuit without worrying about a prosthesis.



Movie - Japan sounds wonderful. Good for you.



Liefie - I hadn't had supper yet when I read your post about last evening's entertaining and I was wondering how quickly I could get over there for leftovers . Your surgery is not too far away, you sound so good! You will do well.



Traii - I enjoyed reading about your visit to the park. Hope the sinus infection has cleared up. Re: peripheral neuropathy - I have also heard that Neurontin can be helpful, it is a prescription medication. There is also some information out there that alpha lipoic acid might be beneficial - it is a supplement.



Maria - there can be pains when the nerves start to regenerate. I'm not sure when you had your drains out but sometimes you can get a bit of a build up of fluid called a seroma after the drains are removed and that can be painful also. If it doesn't go away or gets worse it would be worth checking out.



Re: my back pain - not going away unfortunately, Nihahi pass the peas please . Since I was just traveling I will give it to Thursday to settle down and if not, ask about it at my Herceptin appt. Today I was at work for a few hours of meetings and had to place my fist against it behind me in my chair to help. If I had had any narcotics with me I would have taken them and I don't do that.

Visit for grandson's birthday was wonderful. I told a friend at work that it was good medicine.

Take care everyone

MariaNL

Hello ladies,

had a great day except this darn underarm pain. Went to lunch with a good friend of mine quite a treat. My onco called this afternoon my pet scan came back good yippie, so get to stick to orginal plan. First Chemo Thursday

Dakota- You are so right you should not have to deal with any crap. Stay strong and keep looking forward.

Movie- so cool you get to go to Japan you will have a grand time I'm sure.

Moviemaniac

Bellies-I don't know where the day has gone!  Been so busy I haven't had time to think!  I have to come on here to see how everyone is doing.....can't go to bed without that!  

Just want to say how much you all mean to me......such a great support system we have here, don't we?!? Love you ladies.......

Edi-your little GD is so darling.....that picture of her is so sweet, I'd just like to kiss her smack on her sweet little cheek!  You are so lucky!  And the picture of your dear friends brought tears to my eyes....to have GOOD friends that have stood by you for that many years.....Wow!  You are well and truly blessed by great friends,and some wonderful family!  I know I have not mentioned shed man, but he has been in my thoughts and prayers since you broke the news....hope he is doing well.  Any new cakes on the horizon?  Pics, please! XO Namaste to you, dear Sister!

Websister.....I hope your back issue resolves itself soon.....that kind of thing can impact so many other areas of your life-it is no fun!  You have so much on your plate that this is a distraction you don't need.....thoughts and prayers going out for you, too! (Gentle)  Cyber (((hugs))) as well!

Dakota-I posted to you earlier.....keeping you in my heart.....wishing you all good things and the strength to do what is right for you.  As you said, BC has made you strong.....cockroach picked the wrong pissing match, didn't he??? Warrior Sister (((hugs))) to you-keep it strong!

Traii-am thinking good thoughts of a surgery date coming your way soon......hard to wait, when you want to move on and be done with the bitch.......love your sunny attitude, and wishing for peace for you (In the form of a date)so you can put this behind you.  XO

Nihahi...my hiking sister, and fellow DIEPer.....YOU are a special person!  Glad we have become acquainted, and if I ever get enough miles, and can go and surprise Edi, you are coming for sure.....we will hike the Cornish Coast!  Happy that things are settling down on the other thread.....I am sure you know now how much you are appreciated!  TOWANDA!  Keep on healing, it only gets easier as time goes by.  Many ((((hugs)))) from me to you, dear friend.  

Liefie, you are a special person!  So caring, and kind.  Saw that on the DIEP thread yesterday and today.  I wish for you an uneventful surgery, and a rapid recovery from your upcoming surgery.  You are in great shape, and will be surprised at how little you hurt afterwards.......I am being honest when I say that the anxiety FAR outweighs the actual surgery.....and you will soon be dispensing advice to other newbies....I will be leaving for Japan soon after your surgery.....hope you can let us know how you are, otherwise I will worry! XO

Maria, Alive, Scottiee, Carla, Caitlin, Jenny, and everyone else-thank you all for making this thread the best one on the board!  Love you ladies!

Namaste and God bless - Jackie

liefie

Websister, wish I could fax you a pork chop and a barbecue bun, but maybe we can organize a get together here on Van Island at my place, and I can spoil you then - would give me the greatest pleasure! So sorry that your back still hurts, but hope you can bring it under control soon.

Movie, you are too kind . . . thank you! Will try to post as soon as I can after the surgery. I also worry when I don't hear from people on these boards who post regularly, and then disappear for a few days. It's so weird, because up until April last year I did not even know these boards existed, and now I feel such a strong connection to all you people?! And oh, I'm in on the trip to England to visit Edi. We will have tea while you and Nihahi hike - LOL.

Maria, we are all going with you for the chemo on Thursday. Have big pockets available, okay?

Have to go to bed - it's late, and DH is probably asleep already. See you all tomorrow. Good night!

Traii

Good night liefie. Sweet dreams x



Websister...hope your back gets better real soon.



Thanks Movie hope I get surgery date soon. I know all you girls will be there with me x



Maria. Great news about the PET scan. Now time for chemo. We will be with you in your pockets girl.



Best be off....cooking dinner!

Dakota212

Hi ladies -

Cockroach more under control thinking he is bipolar !!! No offense to anyone who is it would be nice for a dx.

Websister - hope ur back is better Hun!!!!

I want in on the visit to edi -

Hope that's ok !!! Seriously !!!