Alternative Treatment

Anonymous

Hi Dune, I used to keep an aloe plant in cases of cuts and burns but have never been able to keep one for long, don't know why.  Of course it would be better to juice from the real plant, but in the alternative, I buy the juice from the health food store.  The one I have currently (always get what's on sale) has ginger and papaya added to it (good for digestion).  Aloe has so many benefits, too many to list 

 http://www.iasc.org/complete.html

dunesleeper

I have a healthy aloe plant, but I am only comfortable using that topically. I will check out the natural pharmacy. Thanks Maud.

abigail48

I have many many aloes I never use. I hear the outsides can be irritating, peeling them is best.  I have them inside & water with the water I "wash" produce in.  I have a black thumb for outside growing but the opposite for inside........stay tuned for phytochmicals info

Anonymous

Will stay tuned Abi   I'm not giving up on dairy, in fact, I've increased my consumption of hard cheeses and cottage cheese, bio milk, yogurt and kefir.  Many many studies done on CLA (Conjugated linoleic acid) present in milk show that it slows the development of mammary tumours in animals. Postmenopausal women with high levels of CLA in their blood and fatty tissue have a 70 per cent lower chance of breast cancer.

http://www.zuivelengezondheid.nl/images/html/LampeDairyUK.pdf 

Anonymous

I've been adding peppers of all kinds plus curry to everything.  If the dish does not contain any, it tastes real bland now.  Have become addicted to spicy 

Pepper Compound Selectively Kills Breast Cancer Cells

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v475/n7355/full/nature10167.html

Loads of good articles on BC at:

http://breastcancerfightnowbydraarontabor.blogspot.ca/

abigail48

HARD CHEES, MMMMM, CHEESE MMMMMMM havn't had any except at parties for 5 years

phytochemicals:  Dithalthiones:, sothioyanates:, sulphorophane:  brassicates

Organo sulfides:, polysulfides:, allylmenthyl trisulfides:  garlic, onion, leek, chives, shallots

allylisocyanate sulfide (same as above)

indoles glucosinolates/sulfur compounds:  I don't know if all of them are sulfides, but here goes:  indole 3 carbinol:  rutabega, mustard greens, brussels sprouts, cabbage, kale

sulforaphane:  broccoli

3.3 diindolymethane (DIM) broccoli family

sinigrin:  same

allicin: garlic

allicin:  same

piperine:  black pepper

syn-propaethial:  cut onions

Anonymous

Hey Abbi, thanks, lots of goodies on that list huh ?

Do you know anything about tomatillo ? 

Newly discovered plant-based molecules showing cancer-fighting potential 

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-03-newly-plant-based-molecules-cancer-fighting-potential.html 

Kaara

I love tomatillo's (a sour green tomato with a husk).  They are used in mexican cooking quite a lot and I prefer that sauce over the red one.  Nothing better than a spinach enchalada with green tomatillo sauce...better for you as well!  Good to know they can fight cancer, as I'm planning to eat at our local mexican restaurant when we get to NC this summer and it's my favorite dish.  Now if I can avoid the chips and salsa I'll be ok.

exbrnxgrl

Tomatillos are not tomatoes at all. Though also in the nightshade family, they are a completely different genus. They are actually related to cape gooseberries. All that aside, they are delicious, harder to grow than a tomato, and far less perishable when picked. Caryn

purple32

I have  a surgery PHOBIA, for many many reasons, and even with <just> the Lx and SNB , I was freaked.  I was petrified too of re-excision.

We do what we *have * to do.  Find a surgeon that you trust and then take the leap of faith.

That is all any of us here can do, really.

Feel free to PM me.  Pls have surgery!

purple32

THX for posting the links sunf...  I was considering *adding* flaxseed to my diet, but now I wont.

JUST IN CASE.

exbrnxgrl

Purple,

Although I have followed a conventional path in my treatment , this thread is on the alternative forum (read the header for the definition). The women who post here are adults and they are here to explore alternatives, not have someone urge them to do conventional tx. Let's respect that. Caryn

luv_gardening

Maud, that Tomatillo research looks really promising.  I don't think we have them in Australia.  I bet it's the whole plant needed for medicinal purposes.  I'll have to see if they can be grown here without becoming a weed like so many introduced plants.  I'm drawn more and more to herbs, like a calling.  Why did I drop out of my herbal classes with the brilliant Australian herbalist, Denis Stewart! (Bangs head...) Such a dynamic and knowledgeable teacher.  Oh yes, I needed a job and income to survive.  And I'm not good with people.  Research maybe?

Anonymous

Hi Joy, yes, this is all very very exciting and the way of the future.  Like Timmerman says: pharmacognosy: the study of natural drugs, "We're in an elite group."

I believe they are talking about the 'wild' tomatillo, not the 'Monsanto' tomatillo....leaves and roots as well as fruit

I know exactly what you mean, giving up one's calling for having to pay rent and food, but you know, it's never too late Joy.  Is Dennis Stewart still around ? 

exbrnxgrl

If you try to grow them, you need more than one to pollinate or they won't fruit. I live in a predominantly Mexican neighborhood with a great growing climate. We know our tomatillos here! Caryn

Anonymous

xbrnxgrl, lucky you !  I would juice the hell out of them 

luv_gardening

Stewart now charges a small fortune for small DVD courses to professional health practitioners.  In my day he lectured to young students for a reasonable fee when natural medicine was still in it's infancy in Australia.  A lost opportunity.

I know nothing about traditional North American or even Australian herbs.  And whoever heard of European medicinal herbs? They probably went the way of the European bear, which once inhabited Great Britain.  Too many wars over territory and leadership, herbalists probably burned at the stake as witches.  Male domination instead of Female wisdom. There must be other great herbal traditions yet all I read about is TCM.   I'm so rusty in all areas as I really haven't needed to use medicines, being fairly healthy till BC.  Now I need to catch up.

Kaara

I stand corrected on the tomatillo being a tomato...all I know is they are good made into a sauce.

Anonymous

Anyone familiar with the work of Dr. Beljanski, the father of the Oncotest ?

The Oncotest Leads to Two Anticancer Extracts

These findings led Dr. Beljanski to devise a test called the Oncotest, which allowed him to identify many molecules having a carcinogenic potential. This Oncotest also permitted Dr. Beljanski to discover the two specific anti-cancer plant extracts. He reasoned that while carcinogens increase unwinding and duplication in cancer DNA, the opposite must be true for anticarcinogenic agents. So, Beljanski looked at molecules that would interact with the DNA and inhibit DNA synthesis.

He found two effective plant extracts from Pao pereira (Geissospermum laeve) and
Rauwolfia vomitoria. The Beljanski extracts were subjected to a long series of tests to examine their effect on cultured cancer cells, on animal cells with various kinds of cancer, and, ultimately, in numerous human case studies.

They have proven to have anti-cancer effects on a range of human malignancies, but have shown no significant side effects. More recent preclinical studies in Dr. Aaron Katz's laboratory at Columbia University Medical Center have confirmed the anti-cancer effects of both extracts on human prostate cancer cells. 

http://beljanski.com/engl/wp-content/uploads/ANTI-AGING-THERAPEUTICS-volume-XIII_TO-USE.pdf 

 

luv_gardening

What a coincidence.  On a map of the world, the only place outside of North America that the Physalis longifolia (wild Tomatillo or Longleaf Groundcherry) grows is my State in Australia.  But it's many hours drive away.  It's a very uncommon weed in one area south west of my home, and grown in a national herbarium way up north.  So my chances of getting any are just about nil.

So why am I getting this magnetic pull?  I must be over tired, it's been a long day with some nice mother's day treats.  I'm off to bed before I drop off to sleep in my chair...

sweetbean

What foods are these in? 

Pao pereira (Geissospermum laeve) 

Rauwolfia vomitoria

Sounds interesting! 

abigail48

I wouldn't trust the catagoty: surgeon.

there are wild goosberries on my land, or were at some point.

I typed out all those chemical names in hopes that on a google they might show other foods or herbs.  these are just the sulfuraceous items, there are 81 phytochemicals pauling discovered & put into the dutch databanc, or someone did there & the research facility (?) at the univercity of oregon

joy:  there are many wonderful books on englich herbs, I began my studies there, in those books, see particuarly the magic of herbs by david conway, the 2 vol book by mrs. grieve (sp?), culpeppers herbal, others

luv_gardening

Oh yes, Culpeper. My memory of 30 years ago has faded, but his name came up a lot.  He wrote about Foxglove from which came the heart drug, Digitalis.  We learnt that in nursing too.

Here are the herbs described in his book from 1652.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plants_in_The_English_Physitian_%281652_book%29 

Chevyboy

The Aloe Vera drink from Walmart is great!  It's less than $8 for a gallon, and it makes a great smoothie, with whatever fruits you like to use!

I had an ulcer once, and a co-worker told me about this... The first little glass I mixed with juice helped a lot!  It gradually got better, with everytime I drank it.   I drank it about 4 times a day... And it completely cleared everything up.  Any stomach problems will be helped with this.

Told my BIL about it, and he cleared his up the same... DH will drink it just plain...

Kaara

Chevy:  Good advice.  A little shot of it every morning coats the stomach.  I remember trying it a long time ago when I had a bad stomach virus that was difficult to clear.  I had forgotten how well it worked.

Anonymous

Joy, not only do you have the wild tomatillo and other very rare species in Australia but many dedicated researchers on the subject....lucky woman 

 http://www.cancerdialogues.com/research/herb.htm

luv_gardening

Fascinating man, Daniel Weber PhD, bringing herbs and evidence based medicine together.  I don't think I'm lucky though as I have no access to him or the wild Tomatello herb.  But I suspect I'll hear about that herb again soon. 

Weber has some books about herbs and cancer at introductory level and he's clearly up to date with current medical research about angiogenesis, inflamation and current thinking on the Warburg effect.  We need more like him with one foot in each camp.

abigail48

gary just said that termeric is indeed helpful in our trouble:  slows it down

& he said that the people who get the most sunshine have the least cancer.

leggo

Apologies if I missed this....but who's Gary?

abigail48

hey, gracie, in the beginning of I think the locked thread, joy said she suspected I had some person affecting my choices.  well tis would be gary null.  he's a broadcaster I've listened to for oh 30 years I guess, probably 10 years after I became aquainted with naturopathy I encountered his lectures on radio,  he now can be found on the dprogressive radio network m-f noon easter us time.  the first part of his broadcasts are usually health stuff, the remainder is often politics & various guests