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  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited June 2015

    happy birthday Hin1, do you like chocolate

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    Coconut ?

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    Be sure to celebrate on the ship

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited June 2015

    Patty, we are just moving across town. Basically downsizing. Also, since the economy is going to crash, and the next Great Depression is just around the corner, ( lol ) we are renting. Cash is king....I have heard that one too many times....

    My good friend came to town on Sat. A local friend had a BBQ for me Sat. Afternoon. Good wine, great food, fire pit. Very relaxing, and a chance to visit with long time friends. Then Sun. Morning we went to brunch, sat outside, with a view of the canyon.

    I go in on Thursday, the dermatologists will remove more tissue & explain it all. I knew it was coming, I have spent so much time outside. I am obsessed with being outside, working on the yard, flowers, or recreating.

    Have a fun day with ds2...

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited June 2015

    thanks Smaarty. I will eat both cakes !

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    Marlana, I remember you mentionedthat you are keeping yourself hydrated balancing in electrolytes, but sometimes it might not be enough lytes. Debiann is right about IV fluid and sodium being flushed out. Make sure they monitor your electrolytes. You get all kinds of stuff spilling out of the cells when they are killed by chemo, thus your lytes might be off. Get plenty of rest if you can so your body can recover. Work can wait. Hugs

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015

    Happy birthday to uuuuuuuu!

    You know about Eyore in Winnie the Pooh? Clinically depressed donkey? That's DH.

    I had basal cell on my face, squamous cut out of my arm, clean margin. Neither was a real big deal.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    Hi1

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    HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!!

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 11,162
    edited June 2015

    spookie - eyore - too very funny

    Hi1 - sounds like you had a great bday. Hope thur goes smoothly for ya

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015

    if a person is depressed, there is help available. He won't get it. And he likes to play marter I refuse to let him drag ME down. So Eyeore it is.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    Ms. Spookie, hope your Eeyore finds his sunshine. Poor Eeyore. Mom is the same way. It is hard seeing her that way. The glass is always half empty for her SIGH. Good thing my dad is like Tigger, but I am starting to see that he has become more forgetful the last two years another SIGH. NOW, I am starting to sound like Eeyore myself.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited June 2015

    Hol- I hope you have a good birthday.

    I heard there will be another economic correction in 2015. They come every 7 years these days, just like the "7 year itch). 2001, 2008, and this year would be the next in the cycle. I rented for years and think renting has so many advantages (including more FREE TIME). I love my home, but still.......

    Patty- it is going up to the 90s this week! That is typical for here in June, it has been very cool through May and felt more like Feb-March with all the rain and cooler temps. It went back up to the 80s last week, and now heads into the 90s. Usually the month of June is our warmest here (90s into the 100s), but then it cools with the monsoonal rains that usually start in July. Between El Ninjo and that, I expect the rains to return again soon. It will likely be somewhere in the low 80s tomorrow night for yoga. The person's yard we are going to for outdoor yoga is beautifully shaded down in the valley. Can't wait!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited June 2015

    MYRA--hello, you popped in a while back then were gone again. From the first time you were posting here you were in early treatment----how did it go? Come more often :)

    Paws things sound like they are improving. great :) I do zeroscaping--not xeriscaping--zero as in nada. The ground cover is all weeds. But they are nice weeds. They're green when it rains. They die when it's dry and it comes back green with the slightest rain or consistent dew. I do have slug-a -bug now --they fertilize my weeds and try to kill what they don't like. I must talk to them about that. In Florida the most common ground covers are Augustine--very lush, but water hungry. Bahia is very hardy, less water hungry, drought resistant. But's it's not lush like Augustine. I really have S-A-B b/c of pest control, the fertilizing is in the package.

    Google University of Florida and grass. They develop all kinds of things. Particular interest of recent times is hardy grass. I haven't looked in afew years to see what they've done.

    What I like about my weeds is they are very healthy & GREEN without supllemental water, ergo,

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited June 2015

    Yoga at moonrise sounds wonderful. Yoga at sunrise was a little early for me.

    Belated happy birthday! Sounds like you had a nice weekend.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    Ms. Chevy and Patty, I am ok. No physical or emotional crisis. Just get frustrated when the neurons in my brain don't communicate with each other so I can communicate coherently. It happens every so often. By the way, I am not under the influence. Don't like to take anything unless I have to. I like to take care of ailments the old fashion way too Ms. Chevy and I am a licensed drug dealer to answer your question Rose. I have been working part-time since DD was 2 so I can be more involved with raising my kids. My pension is sad looking, but it's ok. I often tease my girls that they better take care of me when I am not able to take care of myself for the sacrifice I made haha. It's hard being a working mom and can't imagine being a single mom U4. Hugs to you if you are lurking.

    Rose, I hope you are doing better today. You know what is interesting- eating pomegranate along with the seeds helps me with diarrhea. Not sure how it will work with redundant colon though. You should not try it if you have diverticulosis. When you are constipated you eat the flesh of the pomegranate without the seeds and that will take care of the problem. Amazing fruit. Ms. Chevy promotes Aloe Vera and I am promoting pomegranate for digestive health. Together, we will fix all your digestive problems.

    Ms. Chevy, I saw a nice looking iron skillet at Home Goods a few months ago and was contemplating getting it ,but changed my mind because I was not sure if I could take care of it. I threw away all my Teflon pots and pans a few weeks after dx. Stainless steel pan doesn't work as well for frying. Now that I learn you can use it on DH when he is moody I regret not getting it!! Oh wait...hmmmm... he can use it on me too when I am moody! Never mind.

    Patty, so happy to hear you have more energy today. Spoil that baby of yours with love.

    Jazzy, I miss Yoga and Pilate. Had a six pack (well almost) when I did Pilate and kick boxing. That was 15 years ago. I should find time to go back to Yoga or Pilate when I get clearance from surgeon. Bless your heart for having a servant's heart. Your friend is lucky to have you. It is rewarding to give.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited June 2015

    Loveroflife- I had open abdominal surgery 6 weeks before my BC surgery and my "core" was forever changed. A lot of personal training since last year and I am finally able to do more poses. I do a bit of yoga on my patio every day in the summer months. I hope you can get back to the yoga when you are more recovered. I had to ease into it after the surgeries (at least six months), and a good teacher will help you with that. Lots of easy poses to do that won't be has hard on the pec area and other things that have received some trauma. It is a slow process out of this crap.

    And wow, that you had almost six pack abs, even at my fittest, I have never had a flat stomach.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Chevy--my gran always made cornbread in her skillet. But she also packed up her 8 kids and moved them from Arkansas to California in late 1943 to work as a welder at Douglas Aircraft, leaving my drunken grandfather behind. She was widowed in 1957 but never lived with him again and she made it to 102 so maybe she forgot what the skillet was for?

    Hin1--happy birthday!

    Jazzygirl--got a laugh out of "full moon yoga"! Don't get me wrong; yoga keeps me sane sometimes... "full moon" bwahaha. I keep picturing nude yoga and someone doing a downward dog right in front of me. If that's the case, may the "moon" in front of you belong to a handsome, well shaped fella.

    I bought a house in 2001 and I've been there since. I was lucky and got in before the huge rise and fall. And I'm fortunate that I work in a field that is perpetually understaffed so there's always overtime. It's easier for me to work 3 hours of ot to pay for a maid to come in and do the heavy cleaning than it is to spend 8 hours cleaning toilets and the rest. And I like gardening so I have a gardener tomow my lawn but do most everything else myself.

    I'm ok for electrolytes. Just got back from MO's and had some blood work done to check. Yesterday was probably just my day to hit the wall after chemo. The way my bones felt, it was more like the wall hit me!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited June 2015

    Marly, how'd the visit go? Did you go for a check at the CC?

    Loverly, I left out a piece of info on the colon problem that makes the whole scenario really suck. Each ologist was told My two goals were to see if they're was any treatable medical condition AND if Celebrex was a good drug for me b/c of the life long muscle /bone / joint pain. It wasn't an afterthought or lightly considered. It was a specific goal stated up front. Not overlooked. Celebrex was very new at the time. Considered a breakthrough. Plus they're was research to support it being used as a chemo-preventative for 5 different cancers. Hence my interest. Family hx including most of those cancers and M/B/J pain. I was seriously pre-suing a two for one treatment.................. FDA has lost it's way. Too much influence by big Pharma. Never thought I'd say it, but multiple times in the last few years in tracking things that are very divergent, I have been dismayed that the FDA didn't follow it's own rules and mission.

    Whew, I thought Chevy would really do something with the vibrating---funny, but could have been more.

    Blondie, thanks, thinking of you too. Hope we can make the visit work at Tampa. Even if it's short :) but Spookie and I will understand if it can't be worked out :)

    Mel--LOVE TED Talks.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited June 2015


    Wren, Tylenol is not a safe drug, nor are the rest of the NSAIDS. All have long term negative cardiovascular effects and Heptorenal  (liver/kidney).

    I was suspicious of Tylenol in 2006. Googled Hypertension and Tylenol. Major study published in Hypertension Journal August 2005. Meta-analysis of the Women's Health Study(Nurse's long term study). Connection between permanent hypertension and use of Tylenol and NSAIDS was made. Many supporting studies since. After the Original study done on women a meta-analysis was conducted on the Farmingham study(men). It was published in the same journal in 2007. The same connection was made in men.

    I went to pull both studies. There are now so many studies, it's terrible that there hasn't been a public health warning.

    Did you save that research I did for you on NSAIDS? I didn't archive it.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    Got the big picture Ms. Sass.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    Marlana, I did not get what was tickling you about the "the full moon yoga" until you mentioned the downward dog hahaha. You are just as wacko as some people on here. Keep up with your humor. Good to hear the lytes are good. Take care and reserve your energy for the next boxing match. Hug

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    sas--my mom made me go because of the diarrhea and fluid retention. Nurse Ratchet started nagging last night and woke me up at 9 am by handing me the phone. I was actually a little dehydrated--I only got in about 120 ounces of fluid yesterday but with the big D, it apparently wasn't enough. And I sat down and figured out my "normal" fluid intake is two 20 oz mugs of hot green tea, 3 to 4 half liter bottles of water while at work, a 12 oz can of diet coke and at least another 32 oz of water at home so my non chemo total is 134-151 oz per day so my 120 yesterday was way under my regular intake.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited June 2015

    Oh Sass, you just TRY to get me into trouble! There are SOME newer gals on here, and I don't want to scare them 1/2 to death, talking that kind of "stuff!" Hah! Little do they know that without "power" we are lost.... up a crick..... You want to know MY secrets, dontcha? Nope! Can't do it! You have to figure that stuff all out by yourselves....

    And Marla.... My Grandma too! She "acquired" my Dad & Aunt, with my Grandpa when she was only 21.... they were 5 and 6. They raised their own chickens, grew their own vegetables.... and even built the house they lived in, from the basement up... My Dad helped them build their house when he was little.... lived in the basement while they built the house....

    Yes, she cooked EVERYthing in her cast-iron skillet. She made the BEST chicken, by using bacon grease, throw in the cut-up chicken, then flour it all, turn it, flour it again, and let it fry until brown, then add lots of water and onion and simmer until done. It was the BEST!

    She SHOULD have beaned Grandpa a few times, but refrained.... He drank his weight in whiskey, and rolled his own cigarettes! Taught that all to my Dad..... oh well.... they lived long and healthy lives.... probably because they didn't have all the meds that we have now.

    Grandma used to use Mustard Plasters, and Mentholatum for EVERYthing! And a shot of whiskey for a cough, or croup, or probably for everything imaginable.... would wash Dad's hair with clorox.

    She would wrap a piece of bacon on your fingers if you got a splinter or piece of metal... The grease would "draw" it out.... like that Prid salve we have now! And Turpentine was for bug bites and cuts....

    And HAPPY BIRTHDAY HIHO!

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  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited June 2015

    Marlanb- funny you should mention naked yoga. Back in 2007, I was leaving a FT job and going out on my own to work for myself (still do) and decided to do a yoga retreat in Hawaii. I learned in searching for one through YogaFinder that there were "numerous" naked yoga retreats offered in HI, and in the end, I did NOT choose one but had the same thoughts of "downward dog" and being naked. So wrong on so many levels for either men or women. LOL!

    Thankfully, full moon yoga is about the full moon and not our own individuals ones!


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited June 2015

    Rosie, that's almost criminal let alone malpractice on what your docs did with the Aspirin. This is a loose connection , but it reminds me way back in the 80's there was a resident strike in the county around Los Angeles...Orange? Someone decided to study the outcome on death statistics in the county during the strike. The assumption was it would go up. The death rate went down. If we can survive our doctoring without being maimed or killed we are lucky.

    Mel, my thrifting brings me lot's of happiness and gifting of the glass  is even better :) Must admit though I'm drowning in glass. Thanks about the pics. I love sharing the pics. It gives me a moment :)

    Chevyyyyyyyyyyy a typing stttttuter is when your finger locks on a key too long and ittttttt produces to many letters. I just made that up HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA. Sorry about Anna.

    Jazzy, you are so nice. Going out when being locked in for what seems like forever. Lunch takes on a whole new meaning. " I am done trying to make people understand who really don't care to anyways" Yup, me too. Family hx on paternal side is ridiculous. I tried to get them interested in surveillance. Finally gave up. One death and one with a permanent colostomy since. ......The outdoor yoga sounds delightful. Peaceful.

    Marly I had to read your post on the "stinky dogs" several times before I figured out it wasn't a metaphor for your feet. I forgot about your furbabies.

    Yoohoooo Hi Debiann

    Chevyyyy I just read your Mornings post, my dog woman, you have the most amazing mind.

    Spookie we've handed THE Skillet down for four generations.

    Patty, hope the sleeping improves. sorry it's so messed up. Hope your day with DS2 is everything you wanted it to be.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited June 2015


    Hole-In--One-----------you get to be 60 YAY and a new place too hang your hat!

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015

    She does have a brilliant mind and a warm heart. Never fails to make us laugh. That's better than any anti-depressant.

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited June 2015

    Oh THANK you SASS!!! Wow! I have to hold onto it.... My friends are making me nervous! My mind and my hair.... gotta keep those things.... Well at least my mind....

    Sometimes I am really worried about my DH.... He sometimes can't "figure something out".... Or will not remember what we talked about an hour before.... I TRY and not get mad, or worried.... I TRY and not act snarky back when he does.... because I look at him when he is quiet, and think my life would be over without him... He doesn't MEAN to be in-different, or forgetfull, or a big crab-ass.... But sometimes it's hard.....

    He tries so hard to control my every move.... to stay in the back-yard... not open the door..... and this isn't any different than years ago.... But I think WTH? How old AM I? Do I need PERMISSION to DO something?

    I've given up the pole-dancing at midnight.... limit my boyfriends to maybe 3 a week.... don't go finding some guy on a Harley and go for a spin.... All my fun is behind me..... Hah! I must behave.


  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited June 2015

    To me, birthdays have taken on a whole new meaning with all that has gone on. What is the old expression "getting older is a privilege denied to many". In many parts of the world, you are lucky to make it to your 5th birthday. I take nothing for granted, especially my own time on this planet.

    So Hol, you enjoy 60 and hope you get a cake as good as that, if not better!

    Sassy- been flabbergasted by some of the things I have heard on the Stupid Comments thread. Everyone of those experiences you read about makes you gasp with a "they said WHAT?" in your head. Some people just don't know what to say so any old thing comes out. Other people are just too self involved to even think about another person. Every comment will come back to some how reflect their own discomfort with your situation. They need to just take that somewhere else.

    Rose- I hope the D continues to be better.

    Patty- hootie hoo girlfriend. Hope the kids are enjoying the summer and you can enjoy them too.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited June 2015
  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    I'm experiencing the stupid comments. When I went in for my chemo on Wednesday, my heart rate was 134 and my bp 138/86 (normal for me is is low 70's bpm and 110/70 bp). The onco nurse asked if I was a "chemo virgin". Yeah, ya think?!? Other than the head full of hair, what was your clue? So at first I was a little offended but then my warped mind took over and I quipped that "this is the worst virgin sacrifice I've ever been to." All the frat parties in college where they had "sacrifices" had much better cocktails, not to mention music.

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited June 2015

    Oohhh you guys are yacky today!! I was up at 1am last night when a big BIG thunder boomer came through shook the house cracks of thunder and lightening WOW! My poor pups were distrought! Panting and hysterical... stayed up a bit. Got everyone calmed. Woke up to dental appt for the kids at 8 and crazy amts of nausea... terrible. After I got kids to school and home and hit the zofran... then got slammed with a 4 alarm headache. Just the thought of eating anything makes me green.. no D! yay... no eating either.

    well off to meeting for DD1. Hope I can make it through this head ache. It's a good 7, so far nothing touching it. Glad folks seem to be doing well. Keep hydrated Marlana. Be well ya'll. Sassy you are right and they'll never admit it. Never.

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