INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

susan3

good luck blondiex..hugs, hugs, hugs

Blueberry...me too with the all over itching....the crotch itch is more uncomfy right now. No spots yet. A couple of times I took a benedrl when i couldn't change my focus off it. Sas suggested bag of balm I think it was called..gotta look back at message. I am going to try that.

Chevy...you are right...my daughter and her hubby will be with us and we will be very happy. It is just sad that things happen this way. I have always been "Switzerland " but the rest of them are always giving each other the silent treatment. Somewhere they should have grown up and learned how to behave. 

Spookie......sorry you r going through the same....it's only august.....stop with the holiday fighting already.

susan3

Morning all

Enerva

Morning I am better today, I am sorry I was just dealing with insomnia when I read about Robin, I was upset pls forgive me I understand it's a bad sickness I just got upset about thinking of all the love ones he left behind ( 

Anyway never mentioned to come across wrong. 

I am moving on now.  Going to my walk and more crochet lol 

Chevyboy

I know Enerva....  His wife, and his 3 kids?  He isn't suffering anymore, it is just them that have to deal with it all.....  They always leave someone or so many people that care about them.... but doesn't seem to matter.....  their own insecurities and feelings of helplessness drive them to not even care.

It's just that ALL the women on here, who have, or are going through SOOOOOO much, and who have fought with their very last breath!   Women who could only dream and hope for another tomorrw!  And then someone who has a CHOICE chooses to end it all..... 

Yes, I feel sorry for them.......  

Holeinone

Good Morning all, 

Envera is busy, creating another work of art....

Alyson, good to see ya pop in, hope the pain eases...

Blondie, fingers crossed for a most excellent report. 

Susan, thx for the morning tea, in a proper tea cup, beautiful rose... Try to enjoy your day, chemo tomorrow ? 

Robin Williams, too sad, my theroy is people that abuse drugs/alcohol will eventually aquire mental illness issues. Whether they started out with true mentall illness. Just my thoughts on the complicated issue. He received the Oscar for "Good Will Hunting", loved him in that. The music from that movie is my favorite CD, listen to it all the time, in my car...

Sadly, 2 young men in our town took there own life. Both of these young men were very intelligent, well educated. ( 27 & 32 ). Close to my kids ages, they both were skiers, so my kids knew them from school & from a childhood of skiing & snowboarding. Both of the fathers were Drs., moms nurses. All go to the same church. Will never understand the why of it. Heartbreaking to see the pain it causes. 

The holidays !!!!! Yikes, hate to say it but every year I enjoy it less. 

DH is a trooper, getting stronger, bored but he is not a whiner. 

BBL

sas-schatzi

Hi againn Aly--glad you popped in PLEASE, come often. Missed you here. Yes, you, Chrissy, and I were here from the beginning. Sorry the RA isn't being controled.

Berry and Susan, Bag Balm--Udder ointment. LOL. It truly was made for cows udders. Made the crossover to human use int he 70's and maybe before. Can be bought at CVS and Walgreens. Now about 10$ a can. Works great. 

Have docs do a bx and culture to be sure what you are dealing with. When I had a problem a few months ago, the stars aligned and I already had a dx. How rare is that? Bx from last summer that was an incidental finding, that was not bothering me. The usual tx for my dx when It's misbehaving,  is steroid cream. But I avoid steroid creams as much as possible when I can. The biggest factor in my situation was the thyroid. The blood level finally came back towards a stable range. Versus the widely flucuating level during the RAI-131 tx. With more stable level and the bag balm, I healed.  

It was hell though for awhile, the itch the pain AND then a secondary yeast infection  AND then the Prius hip pain AND then passed the bladder stone, all overlapping in the same time period----it brought me to the brink. There is a wonderful use for the bag balm when you find it out you will be smiling--erhh sex. I have a chemical sensitivity to KY. SO, the universe was dark, but found the sun.

2ta--the recipe was on the back of the ronci mostecelli box. I added a tsp of salt to the cream mixture and cut up link sausage 1 package. Used generic brands to reduce costs. Omitted the real parmesan and substituted the powder Kraft stuff. WOW. Good enough for a holiday/party buffet. Can make ahead. Probably, 6large survings or dozen small survings thereabouts. With the bruschetta, I soaked the herbs in the butter for about a half hour before applying to the bread. It made a real difference.

Enerva--he was a troubled fella. Despair is the worst of all feelings, I think. It's an abyss of emptiness. I always wondered about what was going on in his head b/c he was always thinking so fast. I don't think his mind gave him much peace.

Ziggy waving......see that you signed on ----WE ALL MISS YOU AND LOVE YOU!

BBL

Enerva

i took my crochet to my walk lol after I did my walk I am now sitting by the lake doing my crochet so nice to sit in a rock and listen to the water wile I do my next top. Here a few pictures from my walk and from where I am right now. 

susan3

enerva...great pics...I feel like I am looking at vacation pictures

Sas...went from bag balm to a food recipe..lol..that was hard to track for me.ha ha..had to read it twice

Holeinone, glad your hubby is coming along..yep chemo tomorrow. Now that I know what I am in for the first week, I am setting up the downstairs. I am in a tri-level, big laundry room downstairs with fridge and kitchen counters. Will move microwave down there, then I can avoid steps for a few days. Was real dizzy and weak kneed for a bit. Gotta be safe...a header down the steps would not be good

Hello everyone...it's raining here , so a good day to cuddle on the couch with the dog

susan3

sas...got the goods at walgreens.....thanks

Blessings2011

Just my two cents about Robin Williams: 

Like 2TA said, depression is a mental illness. All of us have had a physical illness, and many of us have dealt with depression. 

Only most of the time, our is a situational depression brought on by things that breast cancer has brought into our lives. We muddle through, we fight to get help, we carry on by putting one foot in front of the other. If we are here today, we are strong.

Yes, Robin Williams was rich and had the best care available to him. He sought treatment for his depression and alcohol and addiction problems time after time. He was honest and up front about his demons. But unless you have had Clinical Depression, or severe addiction or alcoholism, you can't even begin to understand how this strips you of all logical reasoning power.

They say suicide is a permanent fix to a temporary problem. Robin Williams lived with these powerful, negative, destructive forces every single day of his life. A person who is not in their right mind cannot make a simple choice to say "I will live because things will get better. I will not end my life because it will hurt my loved ones." This is not a matter of selfishness, it's a matter of self control... which that person has completely lost. 

It's a fine line between wanting to live and wanting to die. Even if you know your time will come sooner than most, I think most women here are still fighting for the best days they can have, for as many as they have left.

But a person with a mental illness cannot see that. And we tend to judge them for it.

What if some came at you and ranted and railed about how your cancer ruined THEIR life, and why didn't you just say no? Or the same with Alzheimer's disease.... would you ever say "How could they DO that to their family?" The person with the illness honestly had no choice. The mentally ill person doesn't, either.

We often don't understand mental illness because we fear it. And unless we, a close friend, or family member has gone through it, we will never know what's going on inside the mind of a person with an illness like that. 

Yes - we need more services. Yes - we need more funding. Sound familiar?

But even with the best doctors, the best therapy, the best rehabilitation, the best support system... a person who feels that there is nothing left but to stop the pain themselves will find a way to do it. Only a 24 hour a day guard could prevent this.

So my prayer is that Robin Williams has found the peace he never found in this earthly life. 

As one of my dearest friends always says when there is a decision to make regarding others, "Err on the side of love."

o.k. So maybe it was more than two cents....

susan3

blessings....very very very well said

susan3

the second one I saw in person at Yellowstone...made of bacteria....so beautiful

Blessings2011

susan3: xoxoxo

Gorgeous pics!!!!!

Blueberry4

Enerva, love the pics of your walk. You walk in beauty,,,

Susan, those rainbows are awesome. Rainbows are one of my favorite things, right up there with warm summer days, not too hot, and thunderstorms at night, no tornadoes please. I feel like Maria from The Sound of Music, "and then I remember my favorite things..."

camillegal

Hi everyone===

Blessings well said and Enerva don't think twice about saying anything. U  know the old saying we live by our choices, but sometimes choices make us so we all take and think differently at times and sometimes we all agree so depends on the day.

OK u'r pics are really like u'r on vacation, are there any other people that go there? It always looks so empty. I cant believe no one else goes there. U are so talented, and u'r right, u'r tops can really sell for some $$$.

OHSusan that rainbow is always welcomed, but the explanation of that pool of water sounds disgusting but it so pretty. And now u'r getting u'rself all set up for chemo cuz now u know good for u.

Blueberry living in a musical I guess--I kinda like that. LOL

I had so many stupid calls today, no one made sense to me--oh oh maybe it was me who didn't make sense. But I did email my boss telling him I was done taking calls today==well unless the phone rang.

Blessings jst a PS kind of thing one time a Dr. told me that mental illness was so very difficult to treat because the person your treating is not of any help to you. And as u gals know I do know personally unfortunately wht mental illness is all about and it's horrific.

OK on a lighter note I'll sing like Maria in whatever the hell that movie was. I think there  are 2.

And again the Holidays I'm already getting sad about Joey going back to school in just a couple of weeks--their summers get shorter and shorter, I know a mom appreciates it, but A grandma doesn't.

My mind is floopy today so I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings. Well I can't hurt Chevy so that's fine.

sas-schatzi

BLESSINGS, Thanks, well said, ditto Susan. Hope you are feeling better .

Pawprint

Susan send me some of that rain please. Its been hot and muggy here in southern California. Cami, I'm sorry Joey will be going back to school soon, I know you will miss each other during the school day. I love how close the two of you are. Enerva, thanks for sharing those beautiful pictures. What a peaceful calm place to walk or sit and contemplate (or crochet ). And Susan, the rainbow is beautiful, but not the bacteria. 

I can't imagine the depth of emotional pain Robin Williams endured for years. There still continues to be stigma around mental illness. Some people find it more acceptable that people try to self-medicate with drugs and alcohol. I personally have heard people say taking medication for depression is a crutch that is glorified in pop psychology. I wish Robin Williams could have felt 'really heard' and 'really known' and could have found some relief for his very deep pain. There was a place deep inside of him that no one could touch. Very very sad. 

Enerva

i finished my niece top. I will send it tmw hoping it arrives before her bday. 

Yes you guys are right, I hope his family survive losing him  

Just to sad and upsetting.  

Pawprint

Enerva, does that top hook around the neck with buttons? Very cool ) I haven't worn tops like that for a bizzillion years. I remember living in a small duplex that had a yard. I took care of my own yardwork. I would wear a pink tye-dye halter top that tied around the back and the neck. Loved that halter top...weird tan lines though. 

camillegal

Enerva I really like that color too, she'll love it----u'r so fast.

Paw we're having rain here too, but it got cool, I was wearing a sweater all day--first time in a while. what a crazy summer this has been too.

Pawprint

Oh Cami, I forgot what it feels like to be cool. I agree, weather this summer everywhere is whacky. But I sure wish I had some of your rain. 

Enerva

yes, once my niece gets it she will send me a picture and I will share with you all  

Good night I ll take a pill tonight, I hardly slept last night 

Blessings2011

Blueberry – these days, you don’t know what lightning and
thunder will bring. Sheesh! This weather!

Cami – what you say is so true – especially if the drugs
have side effects, and make the person think that they are well enough that
they don’t need the drugs any more… it’s a challenge for sure. I am officially
stealing your description of your mind today: FLOOPY!!!! It fits me perfectly.

Sassypants - 

Pawprint – thank goodness we don’t get the "muggy part" of the
heat up here. That’s really miserable!

Enerva – I had to look again to see where you are. Those
walking path pics are amazing. SOOO peaceful and calming! And those crocheted
tops you made? At a craft fair in Laguna Beach, I saw some knitted and
crocheted, oh, kind of “collars” you can put on a sweater, and she wanted $75
to $95 for one! And they took much less yarn than your cute tops! Hope you
sleep well tonight!

Blessings2011

Ay, Caramba! I keep getting stuff mixed up. But things eventually come back to me, so I guess that's improvement, eh?

Like when I'm talking... I know the word I want to say, only I can't remember it. Then it's kind of like I see a slot machine in my brain.... different words keep appearing in the window, then the right one appears..... Ding! Ding! Ding!

I'm driving a little, just to test my skills, but only short distances on  semi-deserted roads.... it's exhausting because I am paying so much attention to EVERYTHING.... never realized how much I took for granted just getting in a car and zooming off.

Got a pedicure today and drove myself. I HAVE to get pedis.... can't bend over that far!

DH now officially has his own APAP machine! (That's an "adjustable" CPAP machine.) After trying a gazillion different masks, he finally found the one he likes, and other than a few times during the night when the seal breaks and extra air flows into the tube, he really likes it. He says he wakes up refreshed, and never feels like he has to take a nap during the day.

I WANT THAT!!!  But my Obstructive Sleep Apnea test won't be until September, after the three month waiting period for this Post Concussion Syndrome to be over. Or maybe I'll just stay FLOOPY!!!

Hey - is anyone going out to watch the Perseid Meteor Shower tonight? I would, but the best viewing time is 2 a.m. and I have an appt to get my teeth cleaned tomorrow a.m. If I could sleep in, I'd get up and watch. It really is awesome - especially if you are away from city lights.

Nighty-night, Owlettes! 

xoxo

Enerva

1:36 am 

Lol

Smaarty

sorry you're still up. How about a puppy for tonight?

This is Lemon, she's the newest baby in the family. She belongs to the newlyweds. About 7 weeks old, she was original all white.

Anonymous

Blessings, not sure I can stay awake that long. I'm exhausted.glad you're bad to driving, even just a little bit, feels good to have your independence. 

Smaarty, what a cute puppy! How did she get her name?

Enerva, you are so very talented! I hope the recipients appreciate your efforts! So wish I could wear one of those beautiful tops! 

camillegal

Blessings u r doing a bit better, but I hope this hurries up more so u get unflooped, it's an  odd feeling. I haven't driven in so long, I'm always nervous about my reflexes more than anything, for some reason what I lack in my brain now has moved to other parts of my body and they have a brain of their own without telling me about it.

Enerva did u take those pics.? Wow I haven't even heard an owl since I was a kid.

Smaarty that puppy is adorable and looks so content, like we should.

2nd I hope u'r doing all right.

 

Pawprint

Smaarty, Lemon the puppy is so cute. I love the markings. Since I'm awake reading, I decided to look outside to see that meteor shower that Blessings mentioned. All i saw was a dark sky full of stars. I must have missed it since I looked at 3 am and Blessings said 2am would have been best viewing time. I'm going to try and sleep a few hours before my alarm wakes me up. 

Chevyboy

Morning gals!  It's just so nice getting up and reading what you gals have to say......

And I love the pictures!   

I'm going to meet my older friends..... YES Cammi, that IS possible!  Ruthie is 90, and still driving, which the thought just amazes me...  And old Ray is in his 80's...  The other two are my age and a little older, but we talk as if we were in our 40's!  

We meet at this little Diner, that we have been going to for maybe 15 years....  Connie always waits on us, and we meet at 8:30, every month...  So we will all meet, and laugh and have fun.  I used to work with them!  Different departments, but somehow, we all became friends, and after we retired, we kept meeting .....  just like we did when we were working... We've lost a few, but we keep on meeting....

Then going back home to pick-up DH and go up to the Casino to mess around....  I take a book, so when I spend what I can afford to lose, I start reading and just taking it easy...

Smarty!  I LOVE 'Lemon"....!  He reminds me of Spud.... that dog ..... oh was he in Little Rascals?    Anyway he's cute....  

Cammi, that was funny....  you have brains in your other parts!  Makes sense though....  Because our heart has a mind of it's own, and so do our emotions...and even though our brain is trying to make sense of what we are feeling, those parts don't listen!  And we just go on our way, not taking orders from No-one!  

See guys, Cammi will know what I am talking about......