INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

IllinoisLady

   too funny.  What is sex ?

Lilli

Chevyboy

Lilli my Lilli..... It is when chickens jump on each other, and somehow manage to do stuff, with all the feathers flapping, and tail wagging, and then when the girl chicken lays an egg, it is somehow "fertilized"  by all that hanki-panki, and then  a new little chick is going to be born.... I mean hatched. 

This is the truth.  I found it out when I was about 25...  I couldn't figure out why old Bea & Estelle, our Landlords just didn't leave all their eggs alone!  I mean they had the chickens, laying eggs all over the place, but they took them in and ATE them.  My theory was, leave them THERE for awhile, and they will have more chickens!

But NO, Estelle said....  He said "We don't have Roosters"..... So I indignantly said , "but you already have the eggs, so  if you just leave them THERE, they will hatch!" 

He said "Go talk to Bea" which I promptly turned tail and marched right into her kitchen....And then is when I learned about fertilization.... I mean EVEN CHICKENS DO IT!

I thought it was like fish!  When the girl lays her eggs, the male fish goes in after and fertilizes them...  I know this, because I used to breed Angel Fish....  Don't know WHAT I thought about those Rooster facts....

Yes, Badger!  Can you just imagine?  I mean a guy walking around for 4 long hours.... like THAT?   I would like to see that.... just once...... like on my bucket list, of things I would like to see..... or even DO....Ha!

Chevyboy

sas-schatzi

Enerva, Maddy,JMJ, Chevy, Cami, Badger, Spookie, Ziggy, jackie, Teka Wren. $$$$444, Beatmom, Soteria, LindaN PHILLYWHOwIllCHecKINSooON, Bluebird, Aly. Nicky, Stellina,Sorry if I missed anyone.

HAPPY SUNDAY OWLETTES. ANOTHER DAY IN PARADISE. PARADISE IS WHEREVER YOU ARE. GRAB SOMETHING AND MAKE IT GROW, BURSTING FORTH WITH LIFE.

FierceBluebird

I'm also having trouble keeping up, mostly cause I've had a headache for two weeks! Hoping it's sinus issues. 

Glad to see sas has finally stopped yelling. She switches TO ALL CAPS when she can't take it anymore. 

Don't take calcium or eat dairy products within a couple of hours of taking thyroid meds. It interferes with absorption. I've had hashimotos thyroiditis since I was 16 years old. (Last week) You`all were invited to my sweet 16 and no one showed.   Tarts all looking for sex and putting up bathroom lights and chevys spying on chickens having sex. 

Chevy, my husband also thought eggs were fertilized after they were laid. I asked him how he thought that would happen and he said, "like fish!"

sas-schatzi

Wren, I heed your wise words. This is Gods new lesson for me. I've taken the thyroid for granted. I knew the basics, boring organ. On supplement since 07. Just a pill. Never gave it any extra study. But it's a big deal and can be big trouble. I'm wondering lots of stuff now. Particularly, I wonder does orthodox medicine really know what's normal. Are they not inequisitive enough about it? But I have lot's to learn. Maybe they do have the normals right , and my case WAS rare. But I do tend to think rare is just closer to the unknown than truly rare.

justmejanis

Good morning everyone...well, afternoon for many of you.  Did the time change mess anyone up?  I felt guilty feeling like I was lounging in bed too long.  Then I remembered the time change and instantly felt better.  I am not a sloth.  I repeat.....:)

Chevy you cracked me up with the chicken tales.  Yes, have to have a boy chicken to get more chickens and they still do it the old fashioned way!  I had two llamas when I lived in Wyoming.  Rehomed them four years ago when we had to move here.  They were a riot.  We got them from one of DH's customers (he was manager of Tru Green).  She had way too many as they were just pastured and their big male was papa to all the spring babies.  Llamas are interesting, as with most males you have a dominant male and the poor other guys can only watch but they aren't allowed to touch the ladies.  So DH bought me two of her llamas for my 50th birthday.  She sold him a young male and an older female.  I think he was two or three according to her, she was about eight maybe.  Females can reproduce until up to age 15.  Of course we were hoping for a baby.  The day we brought them home was a riot.  I named them Dolly Llama and Fernando Llama.  Hehehehehehe.  Here they come fresh out of the farm to a much smaller pasture.  We had a little over an acre fenced and it included a pole barn.  We had about 2.5 acres total, previous owners had horses so we didn't have to do much when we got them.  Some hay, grain, and a hundred gallon water tank and a heater for it.  Those llamas were not out of that trailer for long before the fireworks started.  Of course they run the perimeter to check out their new digs.  Normally exploration takes longer, but poor Fernando was hot to trot.  I felt really bad for Dolly.  Mostly she ran as fast as she could, Fernando in hot pursuit.  When he got close she spit madly over and over.  Didn't bother him in the slightest.  The game went on for a couple of hours before she finally got tired and he nailed her.  Well, sort of.  They mate lying down and Fernando, being a virgin and all, apparently was a little confused.  Or so excited he didn't care.  When he finally got her down he was madly going at it....at the wrong end!  Nothing oral, not sure where he actually parked it, but it was in the front end.  He was making some loud bizarre noises. like a loud sheep almost combined with a lion's purr!  Dolly was spitting but she was so tired and it was July so hot too.  She couldn't stop running long enough to get a drink.  So, he went at it and although I must say I was impressed with his determination, his style definitely needed improvement.  Over the years he became less driven, he finally got the right end.  We saw some funny pursuits over the years.  Either he never quite got it right or one was sterile, we never had a baby.  Sure enjoyed them though, such characters! 

Chevyboy

Oh my GOD Janis!  I sat here laughing out loud!  You should tell that tale on all the threads, Ha!  Too funny!  The way you described the poor boy, and her just laying there, was hysterical! 

I have to copy that, and send it to my ebuddies! 

SASSY, how is it you remember everyone?  You have to have us written down.... that's it...   And you are on yet another mission.... To figure out what our thyroids have to do with the rest of us....   I don't know where you get the determination... 

Bluebird.... She not only YELLS, she becomes even bolder!  Like we can't see her otherwise....  And yes!  Your DH must have seen fish eggs, being fertilized!  Okay, I had Sea Horses one time.... And I watched the male actually have the babies!!!!!!!!  I mean they came from HIS pouch, and sort of wiggled up to the top!  I was raising baby brine shrimp for them, but eventually EVERYone bit the dust.... or drowned, or whatever!  Now that is another thing to ponder.... HOW do Sea-horses get pregnant, and why the Male?    We learn so much on this thread.....   it's all important, I can just tell.

 Sass,  we  also hope your bathroom gets fixed, so she can luxuriate in in-door plumbing....

Chevyboy

Okay....  So they mate, and then the guy carries the babies until they are ready, and then HE gives birth....  I don't have any other details....

gardengumby

jmj - that story about your llamas was a riot!!"

sas-schatzi

JmJ I laughed and laughed. then tried you tube. Hmmm nothing as funny as your description. :0 basically, you can find anything mating if you're curious

Chevy, just nosy, always nosy. My TSH was normal range --tightly controlled and monitored every 6 months for years. So, if that's the benchmark and things were so screwy. Then something's wrong with the benchmark. 

If I didn't ask for a check of basic bloodwork in mid Jan. , we would still be doing ultrasounds and biopsies. TSH in Hashimotos bounces around so it gives a clue that something's wrong(PCP taught me this not the specialist). Mine didn'tbounce, no one can answer why. I had classic signs that thyroid was screwy and everyone just ignored what I was saying for about 6-7 months b/c the number--TSH was in perfect range. Yet rapid weight gain, naibeds lifting and changing, hair falling out, fatigue change to negative, muscle pain increase, oddles of other clues. BUT the TSH was normal range. The yearly picked up the gland enlargement---then the docs got interested in testing.-----but not by bloodwork. Why? TSH was normal range.

Now even the pathologist is confused. He can see lymphocytic thyroiditis(Hashi's) in the slides, but he can't explain why or what type based on the bloodwork. The two don't fit together. So, truly there is still a concern for cancer. But there isn't ANY clear evidence of cancer. Hey, maybe I'm reportable. I'd be patient A, but still it'd be interesting.

I'm not a rare bird, or a gatlin bird down in the bog. (Aly, you should recognize that phrase:). If this happened to me, how many others are having things that are screwy, but the TSH is normal range. So, things are being ignored. Aly and I are thyroid buddies. I'm hoping if she pushes them, maybe, they will look at something they haven' t.

So, wish we all had Sherlock Holmes as our doc

mostlymom

4sewwhat

Happy Sunday back at all of you!!!

All this craziness, and chickens and sex and sea horses and trips to Florida, I only think it's illigal if you cross the state line while actually having sex.  And ED talk and Chevy warning about needing a rain coat......so you don't get pg................and then Sassy comes back with..............

 PARADISE IS WHEREVER YOU ARE. GRAB SOMETHING AND MAKE IT GROW, BURSTING FORTH WITH LIFE.

dutchiris

IllinoisLady

Sas......I had some major thyroid issues.....that gland just about did me in.  Long story so if you want, just say the word and I'll pm the whole thing.  Obviously I lived, but went through some really rough times.

Lilli

sas-schatzi

Blue----how do they manage your hashi's --details please, How'd they dx, What are your followup studies ? Do you still have the thyroid? Correct me if I'm wrong, many/most people live with the hashi thyroid, it's medically managed? How often for follow up per year? what drug? How much? what else did I forget? Do you have any other autoimmune problems? What can you teach me oh master of many years If any of this is invasive---too nosy, I can take a rebuke.:)

Wren44

SAS, I suspect the TSH is not the holy grail they think it is. Mine is in normal range, but antidepressants do not work unless I take a small dose of thyroid with them. And taking the thyroid was dramatic! I went from being extremely suicidal on Friday to thinking OMG! I could have killed myself last week on Monday. And the dose is really small. You'd think not enough to matter, but boy it did. I think when they discovered TSH, they stopped looking.

Another case was a woman who was brought to the psychiatric ward because she wasn't making any sense at all and thought people were after her children and coming to the hospital would save them. She ended up jumping out a 2nd or 3rd floor window and breaking her leg. Her psychiatrist (who had been in pediatrics) ran a complete blood panel and discovered she had no thyroid at all. It had stopped so suddenly and completely that she had none of the physical indications of low thyroid. They put her on thyroid and the psychosis went away completely.

Anonymous

Bluebird, I had a headache (sinus) for weeks, went to migraine, then terrible sinus infection, not sure the anti-bi's worked. Went to a horrible cough that would keep/wake me up and made my chest and abdomen muscles hurt. Think I even bruised a rib. It was all of February and still hasn't gone away. I'm done with it all.

StaceyLeeH

Hi beautiful Owlettes,

Sorry I have been MIA... I found you!! Miss you all tons... I have been so busy don't know what end is up these days... Tim, Austin, and I move into our house at the end of the month. I have been on light duty work since left mx and bilateral reconstruction with right latissimus flap... TEs are no joke... I am exhausted but best of all my son Austin is turning two years old on the 15th. So excited I was so sick going through chemo last year we never got to have a 1st birthday... Kinda cool we feel like we made it  I planned a Bob The Builder party.... I will post pics.

Sass glad u are recovering well... Such a big surgery... The bathroom is coming along... I remember last year the pic of the toilet... Track lighting will be nice Hugs missed you.

I keep trying to keep up with this thread and I log on and I am 4-5 Pgs behind. 

Sending healing hugs,

SweetPea xoxoxox 

sas-schatzi

Oh sweet pea so hAppy to hear of Austin's b_-day. On kindle

Typing awful ...hugs

Wren so agree, based on how my brain feels...can,t wait to see what next few weeks bring.

sas-schatzi

444  lol subtle, wondered if it would be picked up......

camillegal

I can't catch up==WTF I'm so far behine and I have a big behind--so imagine.

Sweet pea how excited this year is for u==and Austin 2nd Birthday that u will enjoy--WONDERFUL.

Wow I didn't know thyroid was so so so important like that= kind of scary cuz when I was diagnosed with no throid action I didn't think anything of it--it's better now-but I just thought oh well another thing that doesn't work.

Chevy how are the screws doing, I mean the ones in u'r hip? Stop running around ike u do.

I was in the bathroom most of yesterday and sleeping the rest--no energy after bathroom duties. LOL doody get it.

OK today is supposed to be 50--Yeow and more snow tomorrow--(double take))so spring has not given 100% yet. Well neither do I on anything so WTF.

Sas u sound good, but remember rest too.

And I feel all goofy, well goofier with the time change--confusion reigns- only do it every year but it takes me about a week to get used to this.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day and feels good, or decent.

Anonymous

can't sleep. Follow up visits with PS today and MO tomorrow. Appointment to set up colonoscopy tomorrow too. Ugg. Putting together lists of questions for all the docs. Thanks to Obamacare, new health insurance next month so I'm not sure I'll have the same doctors so I better get all my questions answered. 

Wishing all Owlettes a great week!

Cami, I can't catch up either. Giving up on keeping up.

camillegal

Maddy make sure u come back here tho and tell us about what's happening===my sister and I were talking yesterday about how much we hate Drs, and when u have more than one no one can answer anothers questions--it's  pain in the a$$ so u do have to organize u'r questions or they don't get answered--and one of her questions she got 2 different answers --me thinks something is afowl in these parts.

Chevyboy

Oh?  you said "afowl" like meaning chickens or something?

4sewwhat

Happy Monday Ladies!!

Chevyboy

You guys, I had no idea what problems Thyroid could cause!  It's interesting for us to note what symptoms to look for?  And Jackie, (Lilli) I don't know if Sass saw your post?  Since you have gone through something similar, maybe comparing issues might help.

Welcome Sweet Pea!  So glad to hear you are doing well!  And little Austin!  We can all be his other Grandmom's!  Yes, you DID make it! 

About our insurance...... . Since my last surgery, with the nuts and bolts and things, I don't know if our insurance has changed or not!   I haven't heard a word from anyone's billing!  I'll probably fall on the floor...(again)  when the bill comes. 

I just know I got in, got a room, had the surgery, and left after 2 more days... I didn't have to go to physical therapy anywhere, or any rehab.  Hopefully I saved the Insurance some money.  I will point this out to them, if I have to whine.

Maddy,  did you get antibiotics for your sinus infection?  Those are the WORST!!!  And I get that awful thundering cough also!  You CAN crack a rib!  I did that, when I was wearing an under-wire bra!   And the thing that worked the best for me, was the Nyquil, and even Dayquil.....  Or one of those cinnamon Jolly Rancher candies.  I hope you get your questions answered....

Cammers!  I love my new cane!   Still a little wobbly without the walker, but trying to use the cane more.   Going to see if I can get in my car, and use the clutch...  It's like my brain is telling my leg to "move" but it doesn't listen soemtimes. 

It is 50 degrees out right now!  And yes, snow tomorrow, so they say...  Going to Costco to meet DD for lunch....  Ha!  But it's fun...  I have to plan my strategy, so's I'm not walking all over the place!   This is a job for "walker-girl."...  Not the nifty new cane! 

tangandchris

It's 7am here and it soooo dark. I hate the time change!!!

I'm behind and I can't even try to catch up. Glad to see the "crew" is back at it though

I still haven't shaved my head even though my hair is so thin on top it probably looks worse than if I would just shave it. I just can't bring myself to to do it. Today is my 4th day out from my 2nd TAC and I'm hoping I will feel a little better today. This time around isn't as bad as the first round, but it still sucks.

Ladies, just want ya'll to know that I'm so happy I found ya'll! ((hugs))

Teka

Good Morning!!

Maddy,

*Hug*

Hubby & I heading out for the day.

4sewwhat