INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

Smaarty

SAS-did contact Deborah. It apparently goes away at night, but coming back in the day. Not painful just weird and something else to think about.  I have to say, that only thing about the TEs are the annoying armpits. The rest hasn't been that bad. And some itching. Did put on the lidocaine, that helped.

Ginger, sorry about the back, but now you know.

sas-schatzi

Smarty, glad you contacted Deborah. I have such GREAT faith in her. I've made her a little bit crazy by suggesting she start a program through a university to teach what she knows. It happened with ostomies, why not foobs. There is NO ONE like Deborah in this world. What happens with someone in that position is that they hear more "what if's" then anyone else.  I can tell you that kind of resource is invaluable. On the one hand she has so many queries, but when she can say what she said to you, it's b/c she's heard it before many times and checked her sources.  Read her BIO she has more years of understanding foobs then just having BC herself.

The armpit thing also has to do with the friggen drains they put in. It's looped and pushed up into the tissue at the head of the humerus(main upper arm bone). That takes along time to heal. CkickieD had history breaking surgery at the Cleveland Clinic b/c he did an approach that he doesn't use drains.  My guess is the doc will publish in 1-2 years. Let Chickie tell you about it. It may change THE APPROACH IN THE FUTURE. She had no clue it was hx changing sx, until I went CHIT blah, blah , blah.

Ginger----glad you don't have a C-1 fx that the "whatever person" told you. Everyone knows my reaction LOL. But no laughing about what the final dx is, please, get at least two opinions--three better, and one of them from a neurosurgeon at least. Spinal surgery is tricky. Do not submit to the knife unless........ There used to be this doc in this county that had a supposed great reputation, but over time it eroded liked his surgeries.

sas-schatzi

Ginger you may not be in the medical wasteland that I'm in...................

Jazzygirl

Teka

Cute!

sas-schatzi

jazy had to copy to try and size--------Love it-----------Sassy

sas-schatzi

I'm getting so intriqued by owl behavior.........demonstrates great interaction versus breading and pushing them out or fledging with minimal contact---very interesting.

Love this story about fledging............as told by a National Wildlife Reserve volunteer outside Kennedy Space center-Florida. Two parent eagles were fledging and eaglet. For three days the fledgling came back to the nest. On the fourth day the parents tore down the nest. Very interesting since Eagles nests have been known to be used > 50 years.

LEARNED FROM THAT SAME VOLUNTEER THAT THE OWL IS THE ONLY NATURAL PREDATOR OF THE EAGLE---------------------OWLS RULE

sas-schatzi

 Blessings, me too. babe------What we know added to what we have learned in the process of BC, then to be able to share what we think.---------------------but the best is, us all.

Teka

We do love our owls!

sas, quite an owl gallery!

sas-schatzi

Teka ------I used to go to the National Refuge VERY often, Then DH died.......Took DBF to refuge Jan 2013, DBF was farm grown. He said when seeing a duck I identified ---"It's a fucking duck"........Figured the beauty of the bird was lost on him. But in this last year he has learned animals ---don't have to be yelled at or  beaten-------he has made great strides. DBF understands how to use hand signals, talking, head signals, snaps. single word commands. oodles more. All lovers of animals know what I'm saying. A trip back to the Reserve may be interesting, Particularly if we take the dogs. They won't get out, but Schatzi loves it. Dini can learn.

sas-schatzi

LOL the owl gallery could conceivably crowd us out , but they are ssssssoooooooo interesting

Anonymous

the owl gallery is growing, so cool!

Where is everyone? 

Blessings, OUCH! Double ouch! Did you feel better today?

Paula, Gus is adorable, so photogenic and he poses too!

Ginger, sorry about your back! Take it easy, honey.

Aly, you find such cute owl photos

Wren44

DS used to work with the burrowing owls. The greatest threat to their habitat is roads. DH's brother was an engineer for CalTrans (Calif highway system). The family used to laugh at how they were at opposite sides of the highway debate. DS and DIL worked in bird research for years. DIL quit last year when they bought the hobby shop.

Sas, With high blood pressure, which should I use: tylenol, ibuprofen or naproxen. I do have stomach problems so would need to be very careful with the last two, but plain tylenol is not cutting it. 

camillegal

Hi Maddy

Ginger I can't believer u went all this time not knowing and just took the pain, didn't u say something to some Dr.? Was it an instant fracture? Oh how it must hurt--Please find the right Dr. for this and get it taken care of.

Maddy why are we up now, I'm so tired, I've been sleeping on and off all day, but I wasn't on here tonite cuz Joey and I were spending our time together. So I thought I'd check on everyone.

I hope I sleep tonite, Im' taking something tonite.

Anonymous

hi Cami! It's still early here, 10:30, am wide awake, just me and a cat

Alyson

Just flying in to see whooo is around.

camillegal

Clever Aly hahaha

Maddy I always forget all the different times we have, now Aly's half way thru Sunday and here we re--It makes me crazy trying to remember. So Maddy it's actually erlyish for u. It's not that late for me--It's aft midnight, but Joey and I hae been sleeping. And I am tired so hopefully I'll have a decent nights sleep tonite.

camillegal

Anonymous

Cami, it's hoot and woof! The time difference makes me crazy too! I forget, how old is Joey?

camillegal

Oh Maddy the way I talk about him u'd think he was a baby--he;ll be 10 in a couple of months, we've always been super close, that why (in his words) he calls me mamma cuz I'm like his mommy too. Except he asks me more questions and talks more openly cuz he knows Les gets embarrassed so easily.

tangandchris

New around this thread, but I am not sleeping well and tonight is no exception! This is with 2 benadryl and 1/2 a xanax. I can't stop itching!! anyway, just thought I'd say hello

camillegal

Welcome TangandChris, It's not unusual that u can't sleep now and being itchy is another thing that our skin just loves to do,, It must be dryness or some type of allergy--it's different reasons for all of us, but the bottom line is we usually have so many things in common. I din't tke my Xanax yet but did take my pain meds, it just depends how it wants to work. sorry u'r having this problem it is frustrating when u'r trying to be awake all day. This thread tho is a 24/7 one, it's evolved into that so come back anytime and there are a great group of women on here.

tangandchris

Well, I took a pain pill earlier. I haven't taken any in a few weeks, so I"m wondering if that is causing it. grrr, its driving me crazy.

Gonna try and lay down now, but I'll be back around

camillegal

Tang good luck and yes do come back/

Anonymous

welcome tangandchris, now you have a place to stop by at any hour, pj's are not only welcomed, they're encouraged! Just be prepared that your name may be shortened, especially for those of us at late hours. 

Cami, didn't mean to imply anything about Joey's age, just plain forget. I think I remember reading it when I was lurking on some other thread. He's at a great age, not really young, still a couple more years before tween, loving and lovable. So glad you're having a great relationship.

I know today is Australia Day, is it spooky technology day too? This morning, my iPad mysteriously lost all our bookmarks and wouldn't let us create any. Had to search any site, just annoying. About an hour ago, bookmarks magically returned. WTH? Then, T-mobile is such that I'll usually get emails like bunched together. Was getting them fine this afternoon. This evening I haven't been getting any - turns out the sound was so low I didn't hear the emails or Insomniacs thread notifications about a foot away and I didn't touch the sound! Very strange, cue the Twilight Zone music. 

Blessings2011

Ginger - my mom had a spinal compression fracture. NOT fun. But she had no treatment for it, as she was already in the nursing home by that time. Hope you get some answers and some relief soon!

camillegal - I can't keep time differences straight, either! But right now it's 11:20 p.m. in Cali. I forget - have you ever posted a pic of Joey?

Wren - hope you are feel better soon.

Alyson - keep 'em coming!!!

tangandchris - when my itching gets too bad, I take Atarax (Hydroxizine) - it's a very old prescription antihistamine especially for severe itching. It is also used as a sedative, and as a medication for anxiety, but with no chance of addiction. I only take it at bedtime. Itching can be a common SE of pain meds - if you think it's from that, be sure to keep an eye out for any other signs, such as hives, rash, or shortness of breath. In that case, you need to be seen by a doc ASAP. Hope you get some relief soon!

And Miss 2TA - it is very late, young lady!!! Time for beddy-bye!!! If you start heading in that direction now, you just might surprise yourself. 

Me, too. Church tomorrow. One of only a few times I actually set my alarm to get up early. The only thing that makes it bearable is the thought of sleeping in the other 6 days of the week. Hmmmm... I think my priorities are messed up somehow... 

Nighty night, Owlettes!

Alyson

Hi T&G - have to shorten things or I will forget. I am a terrible sleeper but that's me. 

It's not late here of course but will have a very late night as I intend to watch the final of the tennis from Melbourne.

Of course I was once a Brown Owl for a number of years.

Anonymous

Blessings, is that really you? Hmmm, I thought she was heading off to bed a while ago.... Talk about me heading off to bed, what about you? Technology can be addictive. PS, my reference about not getting email/messages meant yours too, just got it a bit ago. Interesting comment about sinuses vs migraines, maybe that's why sinus meds weren't very effective this past week. After reading about migraines that's closer to what I had, I never really had a runny nose. Hoping I never got another migraines but I now know to treat it differently (a friend also suggested these migraines patches that stick to foreheads, i have them now too).

I think it's time to shut the iPad down and try to sleep. Not sure if DD will be home tonight or not (she usually does come home Saturday nights after working, then working in the church nursery in the afternoon and dinner with her BF) but I give up waiting. Big surprise for her: since she thinks she's now too much of an adult to let me know what's happening, she's too mature for me to pick up after her.,her BF just gave her a juicer for her birthday the other day, she made a nice mess after I left for yoga; the mess will be waiting for her to clean up. Tired of the "magic" that she messes and I clean up,

Ok, I'm rambling and know its time to call it a night. 

Sweet dreams to all!

LeeA

Hey, Paula!  Love that photo of Gus!  I've never seen a Dachshund like that. 

It's 2:20 a.m. and I've had a melatonin and a generic Ambien and here I am -- still awake.  I'm going to google Doxycycline to see if it can cause insomnia. 

Camille, the pink sugar stuff sounds quite lovely.  

Wishing everyone good rest.  :-)

Chevyboy

Morning gals!  See?  I've been UP, and you gals are just going to sleep!  So I have this place all to myself...

Lee, I broke out in a rash with Doxycycline, and a lot of other antibiotics...  but that's just me....  But I think almost ANYthing can cause sleeplessness , in some people?

And CAMMI!   Joey is 10?  I was in San Francisco, and my Daughter sent Brandon to me to "meet" my Dad...  He was 11 at the time.... I remember he shoveled their car out of the driveway, because he was afraid they wouldn't get to the airport! 

I picked my boy up at the airport, and it was the most beautiful trip of my life!   SO many memories, being with him, and watching my Dad and him tease each other, and Dad's neighbor Jim show him what salt did to those huge snails!  When I saw that I screamed at BOTH of them! 

I took him to Alcatraz, ate Clam Chowder on Fisherman's Wharf, went down the Crookedest Street, and I got to see things through HIS eyes!  We went exploring down through the Persidio, under the Golden Gate Bridge... Oh wow!   And watch him fall asleep on the way back to Dad's house! 

Then on another visit, our Daughter sent Chase out...  same age!   And I got to do it all over again!  He even made a scrap-book of his trip with Grandma, for a class project!  

We are still "close" to them, but about 2,500 miles apart... Ha!  And they are 27 and 25 now.... but still "my boys."

Lacee is a little better...  She can put weight on her hind leg now.... Don't think THAT had anything to do with everything else though...  He is treating her for Addison's disease...  And I take her in again Monday for another round of fluids with IV and another Penicillin shot, and still the 1/2 Prednisone every other day.  But she is resting better... Just doesn't want to eat....  Maybe about 10 of her liver treats yesterday....  Still carry her around a lot so she can be out front on the lawn...

Sassy, you are like our "go to girl" for everything, Ha!   You can be the Mother Moderator of this group!    And don't forget we have a "new girl"!  Tang something or other!   Welcome Tang...!  We, I mean Sass, can fix ANYthing that is wrong with you!

Sometimes we are serious, but other times we make NO sense whatsoever!  At least Cammi and I....  We are the token "crazy" ones.  They let us hang around  because they need a break from serious stuff....

You guys, I LOVE all the OWLS!  Sass is going to be the Queen of "copy and paste"!     She will be Queen Paste!