Does this post make my troll look big?

MaryNY

Like AnneW, I'm looking for the LIKE button too. Thenewme, I'm so glad you started this thread. I just found it today and have scanned through all the posts quickly and really appreciate all the intelligent, thoughtful posts. I'm definitely adding this thread to my Favorites.

Just wondering if you one of you could give me an opinion on something that's been bothering me since last week. I attended a talk given by a nutritionist to a group of cancer patients. This presenter was a registered dietician (RD) and a member of the American Dietitic Association (ADA). I was bothered that she presented theories as facts and wondered if there is any onus on a dietician to stick to conventional guidelines on nutrition? Or can they pretty much say what they like?

iodine

I am unsure if there is an oath taken by a nutritionist or not.  Hmm.  worth cking.

edit to add: of course any in the medical field who Do take an oath can say what they please, so why not a dietitian?

Estel

Beesie - The INTP thing is fascinating.  I'm a INFJ.  No wonder there is conflict when you have T's who are thinkers and F's who are feelers posting on a the same hot-bed thread.  There is going to be conflict when you just have T's and F's not to mention when all the others are thrown in the bag. 

 Very enlightening.  Thank you.

Estel

Just to contrast with Beesie and I think it explains on why there is conflict.  If you have a thinker who is like what Beesie posted above and you have someone like this:

On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous. They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it. Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions.

...There is bound to be some conflict and misunderstanding.  We need to understand where one another is coming from and give one another some slack, be open-minded, humble-hearted, willing to learn and not resort to name-calling.

Thanks again, Beesie.  Very enlightening.

Estel

I'll add one more thing.  No personality is BETTER than another, SMARTER than another, it's just different.  And we see and understand and work in the world differently.  We learn from another ... that's the beauty of having different personalities.  We need to respect and learn from one another and not just whole ourselves up with like-minded people but be challenged and learn from one another.

 I'm done now! 

mollynminnie

Well said Dawne!!  

AnneW

As an INFP and a middle child, I just want people to get along!!

The Meyers Briggs test has a lot of usefulness for insight, whether it's in the workplace, the home, or even on the web! By understanding who you AND others think and react, you can better understand how to work together. There can actually be a great meshing of ideas when F/Ts and P/Js put their egos aside and put their minds together...

All of us Introverts here...maybe we'd do better spending less time at our computers?

Estel

AnneW - As an introvert I do better at my computer than I do face to face! 

phoenixrising

I used to come here often. I loved researching and sharing it and loved to see what others had found.  But I cannot take all this back biting. It is of no help to anyone. I don't have the patience  or the time for it. Unfortunate as there is so much potential for us to help each other.

hugs

jan

thenewme

Hi Phoenixrising,

Backbiting?  I meant this to be an open and honest thread, and I really thought it was going so well, and yet some people insist it's about my personal ego and about backbiting.  I just don't get it.  Apparently I can't express myself ... at all.  <sigh>

konakat

I'm a big fan of yours Thenewme!  I'm happy you started this thread.

Beesie

thenewme, I interpreted Jan's post to be referring to either the discussion board in general or possibly to the Alternate Treatment forum.  I didn't think that she was referring to this thread.  I thought that she was agreeing with / supporting the discussion here!  Hopefully she'll be back to clarify. 

thenewme

Hi Konakat, (and welcome back, BTW!!!  Bummer about the cabana boys, though.). 

I guess it's true that those who get it....get it and those who don't.... don't.

thenewme

Ah, Beesie - maybe you're right (well, *probably* you're right...as usual, LOL!)  HUGS and peace to all!  To reiterate for those who may not be familiar with it, as some have mentioned, that the critical point of the whole Myers-Briggs MBTI is the interaction between the different types.  It's not that any type is better or smarter than any other.  It's all about understanding and communicating effectively.  And *that* is something I definitely need to work on.

thenewme

Oh, brother. I blew it, and it didn't take long.  Oh wait, I guess "understanding and communicating effectively" sometimes involves telling it like it is, even (or *especially*) if it looks a LOT like BS!

Sometimes clarity requires bluntness, I suppose, although some would much rather we just blow smoke and play nicey-nice.   Bah.

phoenixrising

Sorry gals, I was talking about the alternative thread. So I don't show up very often anymore. It seems like a topic is started and it's going well and then it becomes explosive. I have been put in the troll category more than once for having a different point of view and for me right now I don't need the stress of arguing with anyone.  I think we are all under the gun, anxious, depressed and trying to do the right thing but that can make us more sensitive, annoyed and irritable and I just wish we all could cut each other some slack.  Thank you for raising this topic I think it was needed.

jan

Hindsfeet

Edited in respect of thenewme

We aren't going to change people's mind by belittling or name calling.  I try to be gracious, and if there are any places on bco threads where I have harassed someone...tell me. I know how to apologize.  I try to ignore personal comments. I just size up bullying as immaturity. However, I will defend my friends! There is no excusing bullying, especially with B.C. women, who've already suffered enough.

konakat

Barry -- while you're pointing fingers, why don't you provide some examples from the alternative ladies' posts.  You could start with the shameful treatment of Lago in another thread.  For example, anything that thenewme or digger have posted pales when compared to what some of these other women say.  Is being fair too much to ask?

lago

 

thenewme

I've edited my post on the other thread to tone it down.  I don't want to incite anything, and I'm truly sorry if I've added to any hard feelings.  By way of reason (but not excuse), my post was a gut reaction to what I perceieved as a very deliberate attempt to mislead and twist (or leave out) important facts.  The poster I was frustrated with knew darn well what she was doing, and it wasn't merely an accidental or innocent statement I reacted to.  

In any case, I really do apologize for my outburst.

PS - Lago, LOVE the picture - it's PERFECT!!

lago

thenewme Yes I find it best to ignore/not listen to posts that are upsetting (personal attack posts) then to feed into it by responding. After being bashed a couple of times I realize it can upset others as well. I have left 2 threads I was an active participant permanently because of this… never looked back.

But a good picture always gets some laughs.

kira1234

It's sad how negative the posts are getting. I've found so much help and support here, but not so much recently. I feel sorry for new posters.

MariannaLaFrance

I think the best thing is to put this behind us and move on. In the words of a good friend of mine.... "Build a bridge, and get over it!"

Life's too short. We need to share information. If we stop responding here, this post will drop to the bottom of the threads and newbies won't see all this bantering.

BarbaraA

What Karen said.

AnneW

Lots of hot tempers and an overriding need to be right. Not just here, but in many places on BCO.

It's really hard to take a deep breath before posting a response, or walking away from a potential fight. Or even to read your post a few times before submitting it. Wish that were possible for everyone to do, but it would take everyone doing it to be effective.

I've been on BCO for around 9 years. There have always been dust-ups and hurt feelings, but not the level of pure toxicity that we have now. And not one of us needs toxicity in our lives. Yet here it is.

molly52

We are not the only board to have this problem.  Internet manners have not been clearly defined.  When talking in person, the other person's expressions and body language are their to reign one in.  When writing a post, the "in person" feedback is missing.   

The best advice I have heard is to always be nice and just ignore the provocative posts.  The provocative posters will get bored if they don't get a response.

Perhaps easier said than done.

fairy49

there are a lot of women who used to post all the time, who are now not on the threads because of all this ridiculous back and forth stupid nonsense.  We are losing valuable input, and I feel sorry for newbies coming onto these threads to try and get help and this is what they see??? really???? feels like flippin high school!!! Everyone who can't say play nice in the sand box, go with God but go!!!