I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Bren-2007

Blue ... I'm so happy the card was a "pick-me-up" today!  I'm never too sure about the mail delivery out of Bassett.  Sometimes it's hit or miss.

Kay ... Thanks for the encouragement.  I think I will go back and apply.  They had some very strict guidelines for submitting your resume, but I think I can handle it.  I think the job was about 3-4 hours a day for six days a week.  That's fine with me!

hugs,

Bren

bluedahlia

gardengumby

what a cool looking cat.

bluedahlia

bluedahlia

Interesting......

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?Page...

Anonymous

Blue, you make me smile

So sorry if & when you are in pain...thinking Ye Olde Weede might help.  A dear friend with MS swears by it for pain relief, but warns, It AIN'T yer momma's weed, so MUCH stronger than what we played with 40 years ago..much more expensive too, I remember the days when a "nickel bag" was $5. and that was a LOTA stuff...

oh, well, gentle hugs, take good care of yourself, enjoy the garden.

pip57

Sunny, also very helpful with neuropathy.  

Bren-2007

Sunnyflowers ... I am on board with what you suggested to Blue.  I wish I had access to some seeds as I would plant them in my garden.  I did some research on the internet and you can order seeds on-line.  They are really expensive though ... between $7 and $20 a piece. Of course that is a small investment if you have good luck growing.  To grow it inside requires too much space, equipment and expense.  I also did some checking on the different strains ... there are about three that are specifically for pain, depression and anxiety.  Yep ... it's not like the old days!

hugs,

Bren

Anonymous

(((bren)))) the old days it for listening to bob dylan, judy collins, leonard cohen, whihc eating Zabar's ( I lived in Manhattan!) chocolate chip cookies, or going to Sam Woo's in Chinatown, and having clams in black bean sauce, OR BOTH.  Ah, good days...

By the way, if anyone hasn't yet checked out Beesie's thread, there is a long post by thenewme which was "edited" by the Moderators, and much of it was "struck thru" so it "wouldn't look like bco was "supporting" those things - but when any of us ever tried to talk about them in the Alternative Forum it was called bullying, ah, the old days.  Makes me laugh - while some might call it hypocrisy, I think it's truly funny!!!!!

Another good reason not to post in other threads....

Anonymous

surprise, surprise   The moderators locked Beesie's thread.  Unless they also deleted thenewme's post, it will still be there:

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/93/topic/821933?page=6

SO, I guess this means anyone who doesn't support the items thenewme listed, better not read the Alternative Forum, cuz if you question anything for efficacy, ya'd be a bully, and could get banned.  Only mods can strike thru what they don't want to be seen as having bco supporting?

Anyone else confused?  Can't spell hypocrisy, or I'd try to 'splain

Anonymous

Now bco has someone posting about GNM ( German New Medicine) and of course, can't criticize, or say, hey, maybe this doesn't belong on a bc site, cuz, well, we have to allow all opinions, so in case someone reads or hears about this GNM, here's the founder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryke_Geerd_Hamer

pip57

I have read about GNM.  Basically, the natural cycle of our cells are disrupted by a physical or emotional trauma.  The disease is actually an indication that the body is healing itself.  If we heal from the original trauma, our body will heal itself.  Hard to prove or disprove that kind of theory.

alexandria58

I know a lot of people who, when they were diagnosed with cancer, were happy, well adjusted, living great lives.  The trauma in their lives was the cancer.  This sounds like more - blame the victim - crap.  Please give me a break.

crazy4carrots

The way I see it, we're all looking for the answer to "why".  Well, there are umpteen different "answers" and maybe one of them (amazingly) seems to fit my circumstance.  Ergo, THAT'S what caused my cancer.

Likewise, there are umpteen different answers to "curing" neuropathy, growing hair back, ridding oneself of the aches and pains caused by the anti-hormonals and, gee, one of them worked for a poster here on BCO so, ergo, it will be sure to work for me.

A diagnosis of cancer automatically makes us more vulnerable than we usually are.  That's why too darn many shysters have gotten mega-rich selling their "cures".  Likewise, the GNM that tells us, essentially, that we can heal ourselves.

Caveat emptor.

Anonymous

I got a pm from "the moderators" "explaining" why my post was deleted.

Anonymous

Smiling at all, so you won't think I'm "bitter." 

lassie11

My father explained the "why" of things when he turned 90 (he's 99 now). Explaining the secret to long life, he said it's "Sheer bloody luck".   I figure that's why I got breast cancer. All of the pseudo science in the world doesn't make any more sense than that.

He was born in a time and place when illness took many children.  He fought in two wars (WW2 and Korea) and he's still (sort of) here. Sheer bloody luck indeed.

GatorGal

jeez, I've been away from the thread for about ten days .... It has taken me hours to catch up.  I won't make any comments about all I have read but will say I am very happy to have a place to come where I could post the like button so often!  Thanks for letting me catch up on all the news in one place.  Blue's thread is preferable to watching on the news and I get so many interesting links to boot.  I had a great week at the beach with relatives and a great Father's Day weekend with DH, youngest son and dear grandson.  Now, back to chemo and the reality if breast cancer!  Love you gals!

alexandria58

Hi all.  Just got a note that Sunflowers has been permanently banned from BCO.  I'll be glad to convey any message to her from friendly folk.

bluedahlia

That sucks!

crazy4carrots

Glenna -- So good to see you here again with us, and happy to know your current chemo regimen is allowing you to ENJOY life!  A week at the beach sounds pretty darn nice!

We had major thunderstorms and high winds here last evening, and a tornado touched down about 100 miles north of us and ruined many homes.  Yes, Ontario does infrequently get tornadoes, but not often thank goodness.  Nature is becoming more and more violent -- another strong indication  of climate change, for all those negative nellies who choose to deny it.

ananda8

I had one of my friends gave my phone number to a woman who thought she had cancer.  When she called we talked for over an hour as I tried to convince her to see a doctor for a diagnosis.  I explained to her how fast my lump grew between my discovery through self exam and my actual surgery.  When I called her back to see how she was doing, she said she didn't need to go to a doctor since I had diagnosed her. WTF!!!!  In her weirdness, she had twisted my discussion of my bc to a diagnosis of her lump.  I corrected her in no uncertain terms.  I tried everything I could think of to induce her to see a doctor, but she said she would "cure" herself through natural means.  I didn't call again because I thought there was nothing I could do. 

She still wanders around town telling people how she cured her cancer (she had never gone to any doctor or had any kind of biopsy).  These people deserve compassion but they are extremely dangerous because they spread confusion and misinformation. 

 

Enjoyful

Alexandria - Well ain't that a pile of suck?  Please let sunny know I miss her greatly.  From what I can see, she committed the unpardonable sin of...suggesting quack medicine not be allowed here?  Do I have that right?  I will pm you with my email addy.  Please forward it if you have a minute.

A friend of mine had a serious talk with me about how my focus on politics was perhaps bringing negativity into my life.  She may be right.  I'm going to give  her suggestions a try and stay out of the political fray.  My life expectancy is too short to upset myself with things beyond my control.

I continue to support OUR president and his policies.  I just won't talk about them anymore.

Love to all,

E

gardengumby

Sunny - if you are reading, know we miss you greatly!!  I cannot understand why on earth you would have been banned even momentarily, let alone permanently. 

E - we will miss your talk, but please do what is best for your health. 

kayfh

Sunflowers banned for life?  That should not be!  She is a voice of passion and social justice.  We need her.  (I need her).  Please let her know I am sorry that she is taking the fall for all of the women who can not stand to see what is happening to BCO.

The guy promoting GNM has been here before.  In 2007, and in 2010.  Hamer, the chief proponent, and apparently only legitimate practitioner of this "medicine" is a holocaust denier on top of his other dubious achievements.  HE, AliceinWonderland, is permitted to post and Sunny is not?  Say it ain't so! 

IllinoisLady

 E, whatever works.  I am going to miss Sunny so much too.  I rely much not on the sameness, but  the different ideas and thoughts expressed about things from a number of individuals.  Along with so many, Sunny offered a fairly straightforward viewpoint a lot of the time and it held value for me. 

Hot and humid here.  I'll be back on later as I'll be stuck in the house today......and likely a lot of the rest of the week when we are having a forecast of lots of rain everyday.    This is not the normal summer here, but is in fact continuing to be about as un-normal as the  last few preceding ones, save for last summer which in fact was a lot more like the normal ones, though a great deal less humidity.  Back to normal on that aspect for sure this summer. 

See you all later.

Jackie

alexandria58

I too am outraged by the ban on Sun.  So, a German who denies the Holocaust and practices quack medicine is allowed here, but Sun is not.  By the way, he's old enough that he very well could have been a Hitler Youth.  Wonder what Daddy did in the war.  

Enjoyful

Sun was concerned, as are we all, at the non science-based medical advice given on the boards.  That seems a reasonable concern and I know it has been for a while.  Maybe Sun was vocal, but shouldn't we all be on such a serious  issue?

bluedahlia

alexandria58

Yes, E, it 's a life and death situation.  I came here when I was first diagnosed.  A lot of women do - and I'd hate the thought that they're being steered to quackery  that could not only not cure them but actually harm them.  Sun is very vocal, and I love that in her.  This is so wrong.