I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

IllinoisLady

Yes, and well if they really could halt the pretense they can leave the future generations out of the equation because they don't really care much about it.  It sounds good coming off the paper, but just another flim-flam.  Money seems to be at the heart of everything -- a really false god.

Jackie

QuinnCat

Money - yes Jackie.  The other half think they're entering the kingdom of heaven (or getting their own planet) and maybe that's better than being alive?  I don't know, I'll never expect to understand the latter. Money and organized religion - the root of many evils.

QuinnCat

On a lighter note, my Quinn has learned how to fetch!  He probably had the concept down the first day, but the darn furry mouse I gave him was too big for his little mouth.  Now we use hair bands.

pupmom

Kam, I bet he looks adorable fetching! Would be awesome if you could post a video! Have you decided to get another kitten?

IllinoisLady

QuinnCat

Yorkie - he's a funny boy fetching.  I allow that he doesn't bring it back directly.  He stumbles over the band, drops it and has to take a few swats at it, but eventually he gets it firmly in his mouth and trots over to me those last 5 ft or so.  He's still so young, I can only imagine he will get much more focused at the task over time.  Once I thought he was done fetching so I paid little attention and there he was,  sitting by my feet with the band dropped at my feet looking at me, when you going to throw this thing.  It might be long video!

The other litter was born last night.  Three kittens.  One white, one black and white and one a black tabby with a white face.  I was really hoping for a Van (mostly white, ring tail and spotted face).  But seriously, I'm not sure I should take on a third cat.  I think about it because of the age difference between the two I have and the fact that Emma will be outside more in the summer and Quinn will be inside until he is atleast a year old.

Oh well - I tried to post a pic of the new litter; same ole same ole.  I had better luck with the ACA web site.

suzieq60

Kam - stick with just Quinn and Emma - he needs all of your love - he is so gorgeous.

You'll all laugh - my mother called me back a while later to ask me if I was feeling all right (mentally) - FFS - she sure doesn't like me questioning her continuing to drive. I just hope her doctor refuses to sign the annual certificate to allow it. I hate to say it but I really do not love her anymore. Telling me she wished she never had children some time ago really finished it for me.

gardengumby

Suzie - what a TERRIBLE thing for a mother to say to her daughter!!

We're off to the airport and are NOT taking a laptop this time.  We're both sick of the hassle and haven't yet purchased a tablet.  I was going to buy one, but decided that we didn't need it enough!!  Anyway, just my phone, so I probably won't be on a bunch - and when I am, please forgive the spelling errors - fat fingers and a phone that "helps" is not always a good combo!!  

Bren - you aren't taking about donkey balls are you? (NO LAUGHING - that is a real candy made in Kona!!)

suzieq60

GG - when I was first diagnosed with BC, she said to my brother - 'How could Susan do this to me' - nothing surprises me any more

lassie11

Suzie - it sounds as if your mother is quite a troubled person.

No doubt all parents sometimes have the thought that having children wasn't that great an idea. I once (only slightly in jest) phoned my mother and asked her if she'd like to have all three of my children (there was a lot going on, the children were 8,5 and 1 and I was working full time). She said no, they were lovely children, but no.  Of course I kept them and they all grew up just fine.

But a mother with any brain filter would never say such a thing to their child, no matter how old the child is.

Anonymous

Jackie - I think what you said:

" A very difficult thing often to do since everything we are ever taught
is to worship our family ties and in many cases these people can seem so
'normal' to outsiders. I am totally convinced that we are HERE for the
betterment of our souls and when I thought about my family members
doing some of the things they did, I KNEW that I would not let an
acquaintance get away with it, and once I realized that, it was easy to
not let them either. Just as we have to so often advocate for our own
health, we also have to be the keeper of our souls and not let someone
willfully apply tarnish under the guise of "family". "

is one of the best descriptions of my own birth family I've ever read.  I've even printed it out on a card for me to keep, in case I ever forget to remember the deep truth of it for me,SERIOUSLY.  It took me so, so, so many years, to learn and understand what you're writing about, and that was only with the deepest support & nurturing of my family of choice. I'm so so deeply grateful I've lived long enough to know, that there can be ties which are stronger than "birth families" for some of us.

Letting go and forgiving at the same time was the key for me.  Thank you, really, for reminding me.

Yorkie - take "pride" and file it away for the sake of your good health and well being.  Wheel chairs, walking sticks, are signs of thriving, IMHO.  And I'll bet you'd never, never think "poorly" about a disabled veteran who might be using a cane, or wheel chair.  You've been fighting quite a battle yourself, and you deserve the same RESPECT, and understanding I know you extend to all others.  Nuff said, can't wait to see pics of your holiday, bet Sophia will give you chills when you go there....plz say some prayers for all of us.

QuinnCat

I lucked out with a wonderful mother, though I lost her too early in my life, but I could never imagine a mother saying that to or in front of her child.  These sorts of things sear into our memories for life.  Likewise, after losing my mother, I could not stand hearing one of my friends speak disparagingly of their mothers - though I probably assumed all had a mother like mine.  My father was another story.....

QuinnCat

Suzie - my logical self says to stick with just two.  I've had this pain in my right side for months, no bigee, but today it is acute.  On top of that, I took a crappy fall on the side of my house a couple of hours ago.  I felt (and feel) quite vulnerable, not being able to get up for awhile and out of ear shot of any neighbors.  It all makes me wonder if I should even have these 2 precious souls depending on me.

IllinoisLady

Suzie and Lassie....mainly what I had in mind when I left my other entry.  Some people I do believe over time become un-connected to the 'soul's' purpose for being here and I think a lot of them don't even realize it.  They become "toxic" and unable to be kind and show mercy.  After a bit, ( in my case I began to leave the company of these family members and either feel very ill at ease for three or more weeks, or cry for that period of time and not be sure why ) you discover that you spend time with people and don't do  well afterwards --- yet you are just fine with others. 

The big thing for me was to get over the idea that I had to undergo this torture because they were FAMILY.  A few similar genes does not always result in a loving, understanding close and caring situation.  Sometimes, for your own well-being and sanity, you have to stand back from the line of fire.  I'm here years later with no regrets. 

Jackie

Wow !!!! Kam, knowing me I'd probably get another kitty, but  I'm used to having so many around ( didn't start out wanting them though )  that I would feel it was too quiet.  Also, if Quinn is going to be alone a lot for his first year while Emma basks outside.  A quandary for sure. 

Anonymous

Lassie, I don't know any "mother" who hasn't forgotten her "brain filter"  - sounds like you've done VERY WELL in all the roles you've had...I remember laughing with a friend after she had her first child, and she said "I brought her home, turned her over, and there were no instructions of what to do!!!!"

pupmom

My sister's behavior was so evil and cruel that I actually had suicidal thoughts while she was on her rampage. There is no way I can ever be around her again. I hope she finds a way to heal her damaged soul someday, but on this physical plane our relationship is over. 

QuinnCat

You can be my sister Yorkie

QuinnCat

Jackie - yes, that is my quandry.   I just dragged myself outside to plant some lettuce starts and Emma came with me.  For now, Quinn seems happy with sleeping and looking uninterested, but it's only a matter of time.

IllinoisLady

Duh !!!!  I missed a few entries or I'd probably not have put in my last one.  I did so not realizing anyone had or could connect with the first one......then somehow I stumbled on what Sunny wrote.

Kam I also missed your last two ( talk about being out to lunch as they say ) so guess I'd have to do some serious consideratin'.  It may not feel rewarding in any way if you are fearful of your capabilities about being a multiple cat keeper.  Most of my lovely critters were dumped out ( variety of reasons ) and left to fend for themselves, and some wandered up to my property and some people had such issues I felt I had to help them ( like Autumn who had front and back claws removed ) so we are doing the best we can under the circumstances hoping that I last long enough to keep them all homed with me.  I plan on living till my mid-nineties, but I have had a plan fall through now and then.  Here's to good luck for me and them

Jackie

IllinoisLady

Yorkie....I don't have a sister either.........so.............

Jackie

QuinnCat

Money and politics -

Adelson — the owner of the Las Vegas Sands (which operates resorts and casinos all over the world, including the Venetian and the Palazzo in Vegas) — has a net worth of $40 billion, and he donated $100 million in 2012 to the campaigns of Newt Gingrich and then Mitt Romney.

“Sheldon is adamant that the GOP must go to Vegas,” said one source. Some GOPers fear that if Adelson doesn’t get his way, he’ll give a couple hundred million dollars to the Democrats just for spite.

The other five cities in contention are Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver and Kansas City.

Evangelical Christians oppose “Sin City” for the GOP party, saying it sends the wrong message, but Adelson “doesn’t want to hear it,” said my source.

Look on page 6

QuinnCat

Jackie - one of my bigger fears in life is leaving my animals before they leave me, though I never counted on the last one leaving me so soon   I don't have family (or family I would count on for these purposes), and though my friends say they will never let my two end up at the humane society, that's not good enough.  I want them to stay in this home, with their cat fence.  To the point, I have an offer to leave everything to whoever that person might be.   I thought I had someone, but I think she tripped off to India.  It's hard to find the right combination of responsible person who doesn't already own a home and wants someone else's pets.  Recently, my Vet took on the dog of a woman who died suddenly of gastric cancer (everyone knows of everyone in this town).   I kid her about my animals, but she did say, maybe only jokingly, she might reconsider on my Quinn - she thought he was pretty darn neat.  The good thing about Devons, though, are that other Devon owners will not let one languish in an adoption facility.  They even have a FB page for that.  So if I had two, a pair of friends, they might be easily placed.

pupmom

Kam, I accept the offer! I also worry so much about my pets. Hoping we live long enough for the next one, but just in case we need a second plan. Hoping one of my grandsons will be mature enough, if the unexpected happens, to take our dog. The middle one loves dogs, so he would be my first choice. But right now he is still too young.

IllinoisLady

Yes, fearing for the animals and what might happen is a big consideration.  I have cats ( since once I get a strangle-hold on them ) that easily live for  20 years indoors.  I'm 69 now, but thank goodness my youngest is about 5 so I'll be well into my 80's and still have some?????  Its daunting.  No matter how much I love them, it was never my intent to spend my whole entire life caring for them.  Sigh !!!!!

So, if you choose to pass up the opportunity Kam, I'd sure understand. 

Jackie

Anonymous

YEAH, sisters by choice. I don't have a sister either...Jackie knows what I'm talking about :-)  but seriously, if you all remember the ending scene from Driving Miss Daisy, who was the person  she wanted to share her pie with, HER FRIEND.  He was her truest friend.  Boy, I loved that moving.

Good thing there aren't outdoor cats near me, the fields around my little cabin were FILLED with robins today, couldn't even count them all.  Most of the snow has melted, tho there are still spots of it around, and if there was any worms left after today, those robins will be back tomorrow!  I love how they gather in groups ( wonder what a group of robins is called, An Exaltation of Larks, anyone?) and then after they nest, are pretty singular again.

Speaking of nesting - is anyone watching the Decorah Eagles - 2 have hatched, they are so amazing.  And grow SO FAST.  Fledge in about 6 weeks:

http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles

suzieq60

Can you all be my sisters - I don't have one - just a brother who is 12 years younger than me and he lives over there in the US.

That book I have says to either get the mother to go to counselling with you (not going to happen) or cut them off. I am trying to do that, but feel I should call occasionally - last time I called, she said she had forgotten what my voice sounded like. When my brother was here visiting recently, I surprised her and went with him to see her - when she saw me in the car she said 'Oh shit' - very easy to lip read that one.

This is a woman whose son offered to buy her an assisted living unit in a retirement complex and she refused in favour of living in a relocatable in a caravan park. She likes to have things to complain about.

crazy4carrots

Monday morning semi-rant:

One of my American cyber-pals was complaining about the fact that the pharmacy she uses was giving her the runaround about dispensing pain medication her doctor had ordered.

I suggested she stop using that pharmacy (a nation-wide chain) and go to another one.  Imagine my surprise when she told me that her health insurance wouldn't let her use a different pharmacy.  So......her insurance company limits her choice of doctors, the hospital she can attend, AND the pharmacy she can use.

And (stupid) people claim that Obamacare is destroying their freedoms!!!

Let me tell you about "freedom".  In Canada, we are free to visit the family doctor of our choice, the specialist of our choice, the hospital of our choice (depending on where the specialist has privileges), and of course, the pharmacy of our choice.  The government pays the bills, but our choices for healthcare are OUR OWN.  I guess that's what I would call FREEDOM. I'm quite sure that our Aussie and New Zealand pals enjoy the same freedoms, as do the majority of other first world countries.

Something I just read:  In 1993, while the Clintons were working on healthcare reform, Conservative political operative Bill Kristol (the idiot who brought the Tundra Tart into the 2008 election as McCain's running mate) stated that healthcare reform would pose a serious political threat to the GOP.  It would cast the Democrats as protectors of the middle class and strike a punishing blow against Republican claims to defend the middle class by restraining government.

And there you have it in a nutshell, folks.  There's nothing better to explain why the GOP hate the ACA.

RetiredLibby

Here ya go, C4C.  Pretty funny, eh?

And I agree 100% on the insurance companies.  You want to talk "death panels?"  Just look at all the for whom insurance companies denied claims who later died from those conditions.  Look at all the people who had their policies cancelled by insurance companies for such bogus crap as not reporting sinusitis.  The insurance companies are the REAL death panels.

crazy4carrots

Hah!  Best cartoon EVAH!!!!!

208sandy

Yup, it was one of those U.S. insurance companies who first denied me coverage because my BC was a "pre-existing condition" - dontcha just love it!