I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

RetiredLibby

pupmom

I'm heartbroken. NOOOOOOO

208sandy

I hate this F*CKING disease!!!!!

Anonymous

So, so brave of Chickadee to post, and this way she knows everyone here knows, and can have all her posts in one place on the hospice thread she started. So deeply beyond sadness...and what sandy said.

Thinking of her family, especially her son.

IllinoisLady

Speechless and sad, or maybe sadly speechless.

Jackie

pip57

No words can convey my anger and frustration right now.  Just very sad too.  

GatorGal

I read chickadee's thread and am having a hard time finding words ... Chick has become a part of my life since Enjoyful told me about this thread and I have become one of you.  She has made her decision with such dignity and is at peace being at home with her family.  

IllinoisLady, yes, if they knew this was a possibility there should have been stronger warnings, more monitoring of the situation, and lives could have been spared.  So sad.

Bren-2007

My heart goes out to Chickadee and her family.  I couldn't stop thinking about her last night.  Sleep just escaped me.  I am glad she is at peace with her decision.  Still ... it's hard ... I don't want to lose her. 

hugs,

Bren

Enjoyful

Broken-hearted for our Chickadee.  Wishing for peace and comfort for her.

IllinoisLady

Peace

Blessings, Jackie

crazy4carrots

The huge spruce tree beside our house is home to a very large family of chickadees -- I'm sure they're all related!  When I see/hear them, our own dear Chickadee comes to mind.  Wishing her peaceful and carefree and painfree days ahead, and hoping she flies in here to keep in touch with cyberfriends who love her.

River_Rat

I am stunned. I always think of Chickadee when I see the little chickadees at our feeder. My wishes for comfort, love and peace, along with gentle hugs go out to her.

I've been lurking. Not posting because I sprained one wrist and got bursitis in the opposite shoulder. But I had to post now. Big hugs to all.

QuinnCat

{{{Chickadee}}}} - I hope you are reading all the love everyone is sending your way, all the love you have created by your presence.  When I first met you, you were the cruise / FEMA / Texan lady to me.  So vibrant, so living life.  I hope life will be good to you as you set this new course.  I don't have the right words, I'm sure.  Please visit us when you can. xxo

Anonymous

I'm hoping chickadee has long, peaceful, pain free time in front of her.  LIke bren, she has been in my thoughts,

and when I can smile, I think of Art Buchwald being kicked out of hospice, for living too long...when he stopped dialysis, they told him he had "days" and months, and months later, they were still having "noisy" parties in the care center where he was living.  It was the "talk" of Washington DC, what great parties they were having.

pupmom

Sunny, how funny! Thanks for the comic relief. I am in a very down mood today.

I know many aren't spiritual, but I had an amazing reunion with my beloved Chloe the other day. It was unbelievably real. I actually felt her soft fur as I held her tight against my body. Then I was at the end of the bed with my DH and excitedly told him, look, look she's back, it's a miracle. He didn't even hear me and was talking about something totally unrelated. So I said to myself, ok this isn't real. I'm either dreaming or dead. Then I woke up. I still have that wonderful feeling of my baby's soft fur against my body and her living presence. I know she will be with me forever.

My dear dad also recently came back to visit me. He came bounding toward me with a big, joyous smile on his face. He was young again, not the cancer ridden 93 year old I said good-bye to. Anyway, he told me how grateful he was to me for making his last years so happy. What a wonderful gift. Thanks Daddy! I love you!

I dearly love my Mom too, but haven't received a visit from her. My DH did though! They had a pleasant conversation and he said her voice was EXACTLY like it was when she was alive.

I guess I'm trying to say I don't believe we permanently lose those who have transitioned away from the physical plane. They are probably still around us and will definitely re-unite with us after we also transition. 

alexandria58

((((((CHICKADEE)))))))!!!!!!!!

QuinnCat

Yorkie - you're story made me cry.  It is so special when a loved one visits us.  It's been a long time, 46 years, since I lost my mother to BC.  It's been many many years since she has visited me.  They are such special moments, when given.

RetiredLibby

Yorkie, my sister called me shortly after she died (of MBC). I was asleep, in that stage where one swims toward waking.  I was sitting at my desk in the basement and the phone rang.  When I answered, my sister said, "Hellooooo!" I said, "Uh... Aren't you dead?" She laughed and said, "Well, I wasn't ready to move on, so the person who has been helping me showed me how to put strings of reality together to stay.  We all make our own reality, you know."  I said, "Have you called Jenny?" (her daughter) She said, "I can't get through." Then I woke up and said to the empty bedroom, "My sister just called me." I heard DH moving around in the kitchen, so I got up and went out and said, "My sister just called me." I told him the whole story and said, "Do you think it was Linda?" He said, "Yes," very emphatically.  Then I bjrst into tears.  They do come see us.  My former mother-in-law, my father, my big cat Spotty (a LOT of times).

Anonymous

YORKIE  I know JUST what you are talking about.  Don't think, in my case, it has to do with a "formal religion" as much as just a real part of my life experience, has been for years.  Feel blessed to live with it, used to frighten me when I was much younger, now, oh, now, it is SUCH a source of comfort.

The night my mom died, I couldn't sleep, it was very VERY cold out, and in the middle of the night, about 3 am, I just went outside, in my flannels & polartec robe, and looked up at the most amazing star filled sky, and talked to my dad, who died when I was in college, and during our talk, I felt this NEED to turn around, just when I was asking if he had "helped my mom over" - the same kind of feeling that got me out of bed on such a cold night to go outside, and I turned 180 degrees, facing north, where there was about the only "space" in the dark sky between all the bright stars, and I SAW A SHOOTING STAR, the complete star, HUGE TAIL, streak across that "empty space" in the sky.

Hadn't ever seen a shooting star, before, or since.  I laughed and cried at the same time, said, "thanks dad", went inside, got into bed, and slept soundly.

YES.  Yorkie,  I know what you mean.  I don't have words, but still use the word "transition" because that's what it feels like to me.  VERY VERY VERY difficult transition for those of us, well, most of us, on this physical plane, but they there's the mystery.

The story of Art Buchwald make everyone laugh, and cry.  He was SO amazing during the process.

IllinoisLady

A billion times yes, yes, yes.  Only the highly used tattered and torn body really dies and is useless.  The beautiful soul that used that body transitions to a different ( far, far better dimension ) to exist.  Yorkie, RL, Kam and anyone else ( I'm included here )  we often do get visits from loved ones who have passed. 

There are other things besides visits, though like the visits, they are always more pronounced right after a transition.  The smell of cigarette smoke, or the perfume the person may have used,  and many times the phone ringing but no one there when you pick up.  For months after my Mom passed I picked up the phone and said oh, hi Mom, when I said hello and no one answered but the line stayed open. 

There are also often coins found then and for some reason I saw lots and lots of butterflies.  I also actually believe we are here mainly to grow our souls.  You do that best when there is a lot of adverse events to live through and hopefully conquer.  I have believed much of this ( though not how to discuss it ) since early in my childhood. 

I'm often ambivalent then about death or at least the bodily transition.  Being very human and so therefore somewhat selfish I dislike losing the physical presence of those I deeply love and greatly respect.  I try not too and seem to do better with that the older I get.  I think about those who are gone and can feel great happiness  for them while wishing that we might have had one more adventure to share or heart to heart discussion of something we both cared about a lot.  Goes for very close friends as well as family. 

Though many people might not see it like that....we are each smart or not so much, tall or short. black or white, ill or healthy, or any of the other millions of combinations here for the same reason -- glorifying our soul by having great numbers of experiences and doing them the best we can and actually ( and oh so hopefully ) becoming better, and with a stronger, keener, finer loving and generous, and much more empathetic outlook than before they happened. 

This is getting long, so I won't go on ( it is just my beliefs ) but in ending, with my whole heart and soul I do believe there are no coincidences, no chances, no luck, or anything else that has a nebulous and somewhat un-explainable ring to it.  Everything happens for a reason and in one way or other that reason helps us grow ( if we are smart enough to use it right ) and become more in tune with our own spirit and with the universe at large. 

We are so touched ( Athena are you listening ) by the people we meet along the path of life, who always in some way help us define and refine who we are  whether they are bodily here or spiritually here.  There are people who we cannot identify with for one reason or other....but they too are trotting the same path.  I am here because I see the women here as evolved in a way (  loving and understanding when we help others up the path, we all get farther ) that feels right in my soul. 

Out of sadness and loss will come lights that won't go out.  We lose the physical representations of someone but the loving, caring enduring spirit will always shine and be there forever. 

Jackie 

pupmom

Kam, RL, and Sunny I feel chills reading about your experiences. How wonderful that our loved ones can still connect with us after their passage from this physical plane! 

alexandria58

I didn't want to post a message to Chick over in the stage 4 forum, since I am not sure of the rules, but I am so saddened.  Chickadee has been a funny, wonderful, inspirational presence here.  Chick, if you read this, sending love.  You're in my thoughts.

ananda8

Gentle Chickadee,

May you have happiness and peace. May you have release from pain and illness.  You will be in my thoughts. 

Anonymous

Alexandria - it is FINE to post in Stage IV Forum on a thread like the one Chickadee has started.  I linked to it so she won't have to check other threads to get everyone's love...

Elizabeth, Athena, RobinWendy, Apple, so many, so many in a different place now....hurts so much ot having them with us here...but, what Jackie says, I know is true...too...

pupmom

((((hugstoallofus))))

pip57

I could tell many stories about visits from my daughter.  And she shared a couple of hers before she died.  My frail, 86 year old mother tells me that she often sees her in the middle of the night.  

I am a believer. 

IllinoisLady

Yorkie....thanks for the hugs.  Pip...the more that believe, the better.  It makes a powerful light.  None of this Universe was ever or ever will be a random act.

Jackie

Enjoyful

Some good news for this morning...

After a few weeks of increasing bone pain I woke with just a normal amount of pain.  I am hoping that the increased pain = dying bone tumors as there is some anecdotal evidence to support that.  I am off to Boston tomorrow for another bone scan and more blood work.  Wish me luck!

E

pupmom

((((E)))) hope you've got a really big purse cause we're all jumping in!

Bren-2007

Morning Gals,

Going to be a lovely day today.  Temps reaching 70 and no rain!

Enjoyful ... I'm coming too!  I hope those bad boys are dying off like bad mofo's!  I hope now that they are dead, your pain level begins to decrease and you're more comfortable.  Keeping everything crossed for good scan results!

hugs,

Bren

PS .. My dad has been to visit my sis in the past.  It hasn't happened to me.  Sometimes I think I see my Bobo, but I thought it was an illusion.  Maybe he really did come to see me.