I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2013

    Chickadee, yes, yes, I remember now.  That was an amazing time and though I may get boo'ed, I actually had things I liked about Nixon.  I very much liked Pat Nixon. 

    Interesting too that I recall hearing Nora Ephron passed away but had no idea there was a connection to Bernstein.  I did not see that movie but sure wouldn't miss it if I ran across it somewhere.  I'm a huge fan of Meryl Streep and have been for a long time.  She is such a versatile actress. 

    In my view I'd say Bernstein is probably the better of the two men.  He does not seem to be 'clamouring' for recognition in strange ways. 

    Thanks so much for the help.  It is tiresome to know you should be familiar with something or someone and just can't pry it out of your brain.  The minute I read the name it was instant recognition.  So many things have escaped to the far reaches of my gray matter.  I would even have to re-read that time period for the majority of details now.  Just glad I don't actually have to make a living with my memory....I'd starve for sure.

    Jackie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Athena - how teribly, terribly sad - for him, his family, all his patients.  I just can't imagine how you must feel - I'm confused just thinking about it.  Frightening, and so, so sad.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2013

    Sunny, the way I figure things is that, given what I know of what happened, the only thing likely floating around the net would be my clitoris. Not exactly the most identifying of identifiers. It isn't as though one says "ta-da! That's me!"Laughing  And in case I have privacy concerns, well, there are pelvic MRIs of me out there and information about my visits, all likely part of voluminous police case files. Some women were identifiable, though. Hope I'm not one of them, but I have not been approached, so I can't have stood out for investigators. If the police don't find racy pics of me (man, slim pickings, I tell ya), then prospective employers, dates, other people of import in my life likely won't either. There is a good side to TMI - it gets boring and repetitive. Of a billion clitorises, individual ones are hidden in the haystack.

    So no. I won't hire an ambulance chaser until or unless necessary. Won't bow to our entitlement society's automatic directive of "I'm offended, poor me, I'm always a victim" and "feel violated" - unless or until I should find otherwise. Today, in my eyes the doctor is by far a greater sufferer than I. For now, this man made an incredible positive difference in my life. I neither defend him nor see him as my enemy. I believe the facts. What he did was wrong, but what he did to my endometrius is right. That is how the world is. It's not black and white.

    The suicide in this case is a sign of remorse. I will go for the kill to catch a sociopath, but mercy is also part of justice. The Heavens know that a good doctor and pervert can coexist in one being.

    OWMV (Other Women May Vary)

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2013

    Attitude is good.  Sometimes good attitude is everything......you have a heavy dose of a good one.  I think you have the perfect pitch on this.

    ((((hugs))))

    Jackie

    Edited....I think I meant to put Athena's name in the above somewhere.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited March 2013

    Well there goes my theory that President Obama really is an alien ... a Vulcan to be exact.  He just blew that with the 'Jedi mind meld' stuff.  Laughing  Unless it was a deliberate goof to try to cover his tracks.  Ummm ... 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited March 2013

    http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

    Yorkie - she sure does fit the list (above) of a sociopath.  My counselor also described her as a sociopath.  Not sure I should get hooked on this court tv stuff, but retirement is allowing it!! I'm somewhat intrigued by the woman who somehow swayed her supervisor to kill her husband.  I saw the very end of that trial when the supervisor was convicted.  Now she is going to trial.

    Knowing Yreka (kind of an armpit for a small town), I can just imagine her assessing her life there at her grandparents compared to her time spent with her "lover" in his big house in Mesa and how she (as a sociopath) would feel left out and angry.  Did he postpone or cancel his trip with her...not Cancun, but up to Ashland, Or, Shakespeare, Crater Lake and the Coast?  Was Travis moving on, seriously, with another woman?  I've ony heard bits and pieces about this part.  

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited March 2013

    Hi Girls - we're home!!! Will catch up on all of your posts later, but thought you might like to see some NZ photos - gorgeous. I didn't want to come home, but I love my little Poppy too much :)

    Watched Newsroom on the plane coming home - WOW - I'm buying it asap.

    We had a great time but it was expensive, now we have to recover. We did 2,600 odd kilometers in 2 weeks after we got the car.

    Me on the boat travelling around Doubtful Sound - lovely lovely place

    Me on a lookout above Akaraoa - a place settled by the French in 1840 - them most lovely place I found - I want to move there :)

    Lake Wakitipu - where Queenstown is - bit too commercial for me but the lake is gorgeous

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2013

    Athena, thanks so much for posting the Balenciaga. That is much more like it, and also eerily like the stuff I have been designing in my head lately.

    Sorry about your gyno. I read the story a while back. In fact I was telling dh about it yesterday, because we were wondering how pervs behaved in the stone age.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2013

    Suzie - WOW, what gorgeous pictures.  Amazingly beautiful, had no idea it was so beautiful.  thanks for posting

    Athena "mercy is also part of justice." -  lovely words, hope you find them as healing as it is for us to be reading them.  A tragedy, and a great loss for so many.  Mercy.  Thank you for reminding us of the human heart, and how we all need to be reminded of that word, mercy.

    Wabbit - saw a clip of POTUS saying that - loved it....

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2013

    Suzie, welcome back - how breathtakingly beautiful those pictures are!

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited March 2013

    Welcome back, Suzie!  

    I'm so glad you enjoyed your trip.  New Zealand is an amazing place!  

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013

    Kam, crime stories are so interesting! Even before I retired and could watch them all day on Tru t.v. I read many a true crime book. Still do sometimes, especially anything written by Ann Rule. I saw a documentary about the women and her supervisor in crime. Will be looking forward to her trial.

    Back to Jodi. She allegedly discovered him flirting with other women when she snooped into his text messages and other things. She claims because of this she broke up with him, but I've heard it was him. He was fed up with her smooping and jealousy. One of the things she did was sneak up to his house, peep in his window and watch him making out with another women. Then she angrily confronted him angrily about this even though they were broken up!

    Bottom line, after they officially broke up, she moved back to grandma's in Yreka, but couldn't move on, probably for the reasons you stated. Also, she was a high school dropout (subsequently got her G.E.D. in prison), so her prospects of any kind of decent life on her own were slim. I'm sure she obsessed about him constantly. One theory is that she lured him into allowing her to visit again with the promise of wild sex. Unfortunately he took the bait and she planned her visit and killing. Maybe she hoped that the marathon sex would get him back, which in her mind meant him cancelling the Cancun trip or taking her instead of another woman, but that didn't work. If it had I suspect he'd be alive today. When he said nope she pulled out the knife, and the rest is history.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013

    Suzie, the pictures are great! Looks like you had a terrific time!

    Athena, what happened to you was so strange it's hard to know what to say. I'm sure I would be totally horrified, but as you said he did many good, even life saving, acts, so there definitely is a mixed picture here. Kind of an all around tragedy. Good for you, being so forgiving. The world needs a lot more forgiveness.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited March 2013
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    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
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  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2013

    Good Saturday morning to all!

    Pip, glad your mom is settling in nicely with you and good luck with the showings.

    Gardengumby, congrats on your house deal finally going thru and I hope you find a wonderful new home.

    Alexandria, hoping your mother in law is resting comfortably.  I look forward to seeing the documentary that she will be featured in.

    BinVa, oy, I hope all the money mix ups get fixed.  How incredibly frustrating.

    Athena, such sad news about your doctor.  You have a wonderful attitude about the situation.  And hoping that you'll hear some good news on your job situation soon.

    Lewing and Suzie, sounds and looks like you both had amazing times on your trips.  Lovely!

    Blue, cute photos.

    So glad to hear the Violence Against Women Act finally passed!

    I've just been following the Jodi Arias case a little bit.  Sounds like she'll be convicted without a doubt.

    Saw a piece on the Oscar Pistorius case last night.  What another senseless tragedy.  So sad.

    I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2013
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    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited March 2013
  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited March 2013

    Via WaPo, an interesting story about the Democratic candidate who beat Rep. Joe Walsh:

    An Illinois Democratic congresswoman says she plans to return to the U.S. Treasury 8.4 percent of her monthly salary for each month that Congress fails to avert $85 billion in spending cuts set to take effect Friday.

    Rep. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.). (M. Spencer Green/AP)

    Rep. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) said Wednesday that she plans to take the self-imposed pay cut  to “bear the same kind of pain that my school districts are going to be feeling.”

    Overall sequestration cuts will total $85 billion, or 2.3 percent of the total federal budget — both mandatory and discretionary spending. But not all discretionary accounts are subject to sequester, including salaries for U.S. troops.

    Duckworth is calculating her 8.4 percent pay cut by focusing on cuts to affected discretionary federal spending accounts. If sequestration plays out as scheduled over the next seven months, affected discretionary accounts will see an 8.4 percent cut.

    The freshman representative said she made the decision last weekend after meeting with school superintendents, who detailed how federal budget cuts would impact remedial reading and Head Start programs in her suburban Chicago district.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited March 2013

    Suzie -- let me add my stunning assessment of your trip.....WOW!!!!  Nice when you can sum things up with three letters. 

    Yorkie....now I should have known better, but in my day, or 25 or so years ago I read a lot of true crime books.  I think I got "hooked" ( and of course you think you are probably the only one getting addicted ) by " In Cold Blood " which was Truman Capote.  I recall watching him on some program????talking about this book and all he mentally went though himself to write it.  At any rate at one time, that was the only sort of book I would read and I did read many of the Ann Rule books. 

    Still amazed at the amt. of men in particular, who feel they are 'smart' enough to do away with their spouses.  I somewhat blame the O.J. Simpson trial on that, but sociopaths don't really need a "model".  I also think the publicity that ( I watched the majority of that one on t.v. ) had almost insured that the same sorts of 'murders' would get lots of air and print time. 

    Sunflowers -- and others mentioning it....mercy and forgiveness.  Two very important words.  They don't nullify anything that is wrong, they just keep your soul from succumbing to the negatives in this wicked world. 

    Another short assessment --  pics from BlueSealed.

    Jackie

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013

    Blue, your pictures are particularly adorable today! Smile

    I just love Tammy Duckworth! So glad she's in our Congress! 

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited March 2013

    Glad you like them.  When its hard to type, ctl v is my friend!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013
  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2013

    Yay for Tammy Duckworth.

    People like that give me hope!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2013

    She's probably going to get lampooned in the right wing blogosphere -watch for it. Only commie pinkos care about the lazy 47 percent, they will say. No good deed goes unpunished in these nihilistic times. So sad to be so cynical.



    LOVE the recess 'toon, Belinda!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited March 2013

    Did someone say they wanted some brain teasers???  Here you go!

    1. Johnny’s mother had three children. The first child was named April. The second child was named May. What was the third child’s name?

    2. A clerk at a butcher shop stands five feet ten inches tall and wears size 13 sneakers. What does he weigh?

    3. Before Mt. Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain in the world?

    4. How much dirt is there in a hole that measures two feet by three feet by four feet?

    5. What word in the English language is always spelled incorrectly?

    6. Billie was born on December 28th, yet her birthday always falls in the summer. How is this possible?

    7. In British Columbia you cannot take a picture of a man with a wooden leg. Why not?

    8. If you were running a race and you passed the person in 2nd place, what place would you be in now?

    9. Which is correct to say, “The yolk of the egg is white” or “The yolk of the egg are white?”

    10. A farmer has five haystacks in one field and four haystacks in another. How many haystacks would he have if he combined them all in one field?

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited March 2013

    Here I go trying:

    Answers:

    1. Johnny

    2. He weighs meat?

    3. Mt. Everest

    4. None

    5. Incorrectly! :-)

    6. Billie lives in the southern hemisphere

    7. I will guess that....wooden legs don't have lenses???

    8. You would be second.

    9. Neither, as yolk is yellow.

    10. (roll drums) one - it would be one stack.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2013

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