Fellow "deletees"

Kindergarten

Dear BinVA, Thank you, you always have my back, I know we have some differences of opinion, but I truly think you are such a nice woman and I am sorry that we had some controversy before. I think very highly of you. God bless you, Kathy

Bren-2007

(((( Kathy ))))

from, Bren

Wabbit

Kathy ... we have no interest in reporting or banning you ... or anybody else.  Say whatever you want.

But we are not leaving and you have no business telling anybody they should 'beat it'.  It's quite rude.

I am surprised that you would say 'God Bless You' in that tone of voice though.  Somehow it does not feel loving or charitable or comforting  

Alpal

Kathy - you must have us confused with the cowards who report posts and refuse to own up to it. You're safe here - we don't do that unless absolutely warranted and when we do, we admit it.

Kindergarten

Dear WhiteRabbit, yes, that was very immature of me to Say "Beat It" and I apologize but it was said to me  on another thread, and God help me I could not resist to say it back. I am human and I am tired of what BCO has turned into, from a philosophy of love and care for one another as Breast Cancer Survivors to themes of Anti-Christian and America bashing philosophies. I joined almost 5years ago and I never saw any of this. How did this hateful banter start? Who is responsible for this!!! BCO should remain a board of love, support, great advice, research, etc. The other crap needs to go. I truly believe and I am so sorry to say this, because I think some of the women on there are wonderful!!!! but the People Say no, people say Yes thread,  just stirs up hatred and bad feelings for one another. That thread is always the center of controversy, it seems to attract it. I was bullyed and threatened on there, for just saying God bless you and admitting that I did send a snarky pm to someone.  Please don't tell me to  then stay away, because I have every right to lurk on there if I want to, and I also have the right to be critical if I think something has gone too far. This thread has gone too far, grown women using bad language, bashing others, terrible, just terrible!!!!! If BCO condones this then shame on them!!!! All I can do is keep praying and hope Our dear Lord brings some sanity back this once wonderful site. God bless you, Kathy

Alpal

So, Kathy, were you one of the deleters last night?

1Athena1

Kathy, I think your way of thinking is consistent with the moderator's. Only conservative, Christian views are allowed uncensored by the "Report this post" function. We have heard from the moderator on another thread. Apparently the deleted posts were restored and the rest of us were admonished to not discuss religion. Of course, all the prayer threads remain. And the deleters apparently remain unpunished. The hurt is entirely on the side of those who did nothing wrong.

So you are safe here both because of your philosophy and because your ideological opponents respect your first amendment rights even as carried over to a private board. As Alpal says, us non cowards will tell you directly what we think. It might not be pleasant, but at least you will have the right to respond and speak. And you should be safe here - that is morally the right thing. The problem is, we all should, and we aren't.

Edited to add: You can ask God to bless me if you like, but I'm an atheist, so I don't think it will do much good. I will still be a liberal unbeliever.

bluedahlia

There is a warning at the beginning of that thread.  If one can't handle a free-for-all, then one should not read it.

Anonymous

Kathy - You can BLESS me anytime!

Wabbit

Kathy ... I have no desire to pick a fight with you.  But please take a step back and think about what you are saying.

You find some comments on a thread objectionable ... so the entire thread should go away and those who enjoy it and learn from it should be deprived of that opportunity!  Really?  This entire country is based on just the opposite concept. 

What you see as America bashing some of us see as necessary and helpful self-awareness.  Nobody and no country is perfect and we can only learn from our mistakes if we acknowledge them.  We can only learn to understand other points of view if we allow others to express their views also.  You do not have to agree with that statement ... but I still have the right to believe it and say it.

Nobody was bashing Christians ... merely pointing out to those who were criticizing another religion because of some verses in their Holy Book that the same attitudes were found in the Bible.  Ergo it was a cultural thing not limited to any one religion.

You were chastised not for your religion or for the God Bless You ... but only for sending an unpleasant PM to another board member.  You apologized and that was that.

Conservative Christians have every right to read and participate in that thread and to say what they want and nobody has deleted any of their comments.   You can ignore it or you can speak up against comments you do not agree with as you choose.  You do not have the right however to tell everybody else what they can ... or cannot ... say or discuss.

I respect your right to your own opinions ... all we are demanding is the freedom to voice our own opinions without harassment and deletions.  This censorship via deleting posts is dictatorial behavior and it goes against everything America stands for.  

Peace.       

Kindergarten

Dear Blue, A free for all is one thing, if it  is meant for good!!!!! The thread that you started has not been, in my opinion for good. We have enough evil in this world, why in God's name would you want to always be amongst  controversy and hatred. It is almost like we are having our own Civil War in this country, via your thread. Believe me, I don't think I am the only one who believes that the thread you started is wrong and not conducive to harmony and peace. Wasn't BCO founded on these principles????? LOVE, PEACE AND HARMONY TO GET US THROUGH THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE!!!!! How did your thread get approved and allowed to stay, seeing and knowing now how much controversy and hatred it spues!!!!! I can not believe that women who are Breast Cancer survivors who are going through hell, would want to be involved with your thread,it is not even a positive on. When I have lurked, yes you talked about food, history animals and animal rights, etc. That was lovely, but then someone always has to come in and start something nasty.  Would it be feesible to start your heated thread on another site, keeping breast cancer totally out of it???? And then of course you all would so be welcome to join BCO purely to post as concerned Breast Cancer survivors with information and concerns to share . Wow, have I gotten on my soapbox. My mom would be proud of me. She always thought I was a tad wimpy. I am not trying to be mean, I just want to be in an organization on-line that is positive and happy. The World outside is crazy. Please do the right thing and be nice to another, Christian or not, you all know it is the right thing to do. Kathy

marie5890

Christ never set out to silence anyone,

That was what the Pharisees and Scribes wanted to do to Him.

Alpal

Kathy - do you also consider calling our President and his wife ugly demeaning nicknames antiamerican? Since you were so upset over the posts last night, I'd like to ask you again if you were one of the deleters. Simple yes or no question and nothing bad will happen if the answer is yes. I'm just curious about why no one will own up to it.

Kindergarten

Dear Marie, Yes, I am very aware of what the Scribes and Pharisees did to Jesus. I am involved with many Bible Studies and I teach in a Christian School. Jesus preached love and kindness, not hatred or negativity. And if you remember correctly, Jesus was human and showed his disgust with the Pharisees and Scribes when they abused the temple by using it as money market. He was livid and showed his anger by desroying the temple. In a way, He wanted to silence their hatred. Kathy

crazy4carrots

Kindergarten:  Please read White Rabbit's post and think about it for awhile.  And do have another look at Blue's thread.  There is usually a whole lotta love and kindness going on over there...until someone comes along and posts something with intent to stir the pot and get the thread deleted when they see opinions with which they disagree.

Perhaps you are possibly just trying to defend your pals.

Alpal

Kathy - Melissa says we shouldn't be discussing religion. Your post is very religious. Don't worry tho, I won't report it. Don't you want to answer my questions?

bluedahlia

Kindergarten, were you one of the deleters?

1Athena1

So should we take that to mean "yes" in answer to Alpal's question?

In that case, Kathy, all I can say is that I wish you had said everything you are saying here on the "I say yes" thread instead of participating in the deletion. You will always ben entitled to the expression of your opinions. Your posts would have remained on the record.  

I know you are a Christian woman, so if I am wrong in assuming you are one of the deleters, you can always say: "I did not report any of the posts by Konakat, Lewing, Enjoyful or Efflorescing that were deleted in the past 24 hours."

And if you say, "yes, I did it," then, again, I wish you had merely expressed everything you are expressing now.

That's all.

Kindergarten

Dear Alpal, when did I ever call the President and his wife demeaning names???? I would never do that. Guess what, I am a republican but I voted for him, because I felt the Lord leading me to do that. I truly thought he could heal our country and he still may. I still think that he is a really good man, maybe mislead, but a good man. I think his wife is a wonderful mother. And no, I did not delete any posts. You should know me by now, I step up and tell the truth when I do something wrong. My goodness, I posted the nasty pm that I sent so that everyone could see it, and then asked for forgiveness. I also agree that deleting the posts is not right, people need to say upfront what is wrong. I have been guilty of reporting a post, but BlueDahlia made sure that I knew never to do that again and I have not. I have too  much respect for all of you Breast Cancer Survivors to delete. I like to tell you  what I think to your on-line beautiful faces. Yes, I will be totally honest and human with you all, I do have an issue with Blue, because she totally humiliated and disrespected me on line and I did not deserve that, but I do forgive her because I do stupid things all the time. But because the Lord forgives me, I will always forgive others. Thanks for letting me be totally honest and hopefully not disrespectful to you all. Kathy

marie5890

Getting KonaKat and others suspended isn't something I can see Yeshua encouraging or even condoning.

1Athena1

Thanks for answering the question directly, Kathy.

Kindergarten

Dear Alpal and Athena, Again, NO I  DID NOT DELETE ANY POSTS, DIDN'T YOU SEE MY LAST POST. I AGREE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT DELETE, BUT BE OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT WHAT THEY DISAGREE WITH. PLEASE BELIEVE ME, I DID NOT DELETE. THANKS, KATHY AND SORRY I CAN'T HELP IT , GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

Alpal

Kathy - thank you for your honest answers. I was not accusing you of calling the president names - I just wondered if that came under your definition of antiamerican. There is  a certain segment of women on these boards who seem to think that it's perfectly alright to call them (the first couple) names and demean them for what they wear and everything they say. Unfortunately, some of this group are women you seem to admire so I was wondering where you stood on that. I guess you don't discuss politics with them and that's a good thing! Thank you again for your honesty.

Bren-2007

Marie, I think God's busy doing other stuff.  At least I hope so.   

Kathy .. good on you for stating your beliefs clearly.  I know we can respectfully disagree with each other .. and come out on the side of good.

Bren

marie5890

Bren

Yes Indeed! 

Always about the compassion of the suffering of others. Not kicking them to the curb.  

1Athena1

Kathy, kudos for your openness, and I mean that. Don't apologize for expressing yourself honestly and openly. That is what we need. It's the silence of some others than one has to wonder about now....

Enjoyful

I wish God would just give us the cure, already.

I often called Bush an idiot and still do.  Maybe I shouldn't have?  However, I never attacked his children or wife and actually liked them.  In my mind, Bush = stupid and dangerous.  Mrs. Bush = kind.  Kids = kids who do foolish things, like all kids do.

Oh well, let's get this thread back on track.

What's everyone planning for dinner?  I'm pleased to say that my guinea pig had a brussels sprout for dinner last night and loved it!

E

Kindergarten

Dear Athena, You are funny and I enjoy some of your posts, because you are very intelligent and you seem very kind and caring. I know you are an athiest and I don't care about that, I just pray for you harder(just kidding). You have never been one of those anti-Christian, America bashers. At least, I have never seen that in you. I just think that the thread, People say yes, people say no , attracts anti-Christians and anti-Americans, sorry but that is what I think. However, you have been very kind and I so wish I could get you over to my side. You would be a wonderful Christian, because you seem like a wonderful leader. Truly, my faith was pretty weak when I was first diagnosed, but I literally dropped to my knees and asked the Lord to heal me, selfish as that sounds, and my faith became stronger and stronger and I saw miracle after miracle. It is so amazing to know that people are praying for you and it works. Sorry, got on my soap box again. Please have a nice day. you are a nice person God bless you ,Kathy

otter

enjoyful, aren't you on the wrong thread with your question about dinner plans?  This is the "Fellow deletees" thread.  The one you're looking for -- the asparagus and brussel sprout dinner-menu thread -- is up yonder, with Blue's smiling face attached to it! 

Hey, it's so good to see you back, along with your fellow deletees.

otter

Kindergarten

Dear BinVA, What I said to Athena, goes for you, too. I am just too lazy to write it all again!!!!! Love to you all,Kathy