MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

barbe1958

I have a fatty liver, too and haven't had alcohol for 5 1/2 years so they know it's not alcohol induced. Pisses me off no end!!! Why get something (else) that I didn't do anything wrong for????

elimar86861

Looking back, at the very end of my chemo my AST and ALT were elevated, indicating impaired function to the liver.  My CT in Sept. did say "hypoattenuating lesions" which was probably a reference to the changes in the liver, although it was not yet steatosis (fatty liver) at that point.  Fatty liver is official when more than 5-10% of the liver is fat.  So sometimes between Sept. and May, my liver put on a little weight.  I may not get to know just HOW fatty it is. I have to say if it is something like 6%, big deal; if it is more like 11%...well, that is one little hepatic heifer!  

In reading I found 10% - 20% of people (>age 50) have the condition, caused by alcoholism or metabolic disorder (diabetes, obesity, hypertension) or whatever; and the condition can reverse if the underlying cause is treated.  The main remedy is to quit drinking (I don't) and lose weight (I lost 20 lbs. on chemo and only put 10 lbs. back, so come on!)  I think I just have to ride this out.  Maybe go on a low-fat diet to some extent.

BTW, Tamoxifen causes the condition in some people.  I don't think that played a part in mine, but I just thought I would pass that along as so many here are on that drug.  Don't everyone start getting a fatty liver now, on my account but, if you are getting scans, your liver might surprise you in this way one day.  All part of the collateral damage that just keeps on coming.  Boo!

elimar86861

I am feeling pretty good about my latest CT.  Got my kids thinking that mom is just a HUMAN BOBO DOLL.

     Need to quit getting bopped by stupid cancer.

luvmygoats

Elimar - Maybe you need one of those kids bop em sock em things your self. Kinda sounds like a good stress relief much better than those squeezy balls (you can tell I have NO idea what they are called). Must admit I never heard of BoBo Doll (sounds vaguely vulgar ). Here, don't you want to play with my BoBo Doll??

Momine

Lyvmy, there is a genre of porn called "clown porn." Apparently some people have a clown fetish.

Monis

I don't remember having it at all, but there's a picture of me when I was about 4 years old with my older brother, and that exact same Bobo doll in the above picture!  Creepy!

elimar86861

Oh, Momine!  LOL!  These weren't fetish clowns (which I have no familiarity with.)  These were toys that taught young children how to punch, kick and shove a depiction of a happy, innocent figure; you know, the skills we must master to reach adulthood.  These clowns had sand in the bottom so they always righted themselves no matter how much abuse was inflicted on them.  That's how I feel...knocked down (by cancer,) but wobbling back up into the upight position.  (Cue the Chumbawumba music.)

Leave it to Momine to bring up the crazy clown sex!  (Still LOL!)

staynsane

Eli- There is hope for your fluffy liver.  If you recall, blood tests I had last December revealed that my ALT and AST level were elevated.  I immediately blamed Tam, because I rarely drink alcohol and take no meds other than Tam.  But my onc ordered tests a couple of months ago, and "poof,"  my levels are well within normal ranges now.  I've not changed any eating, drinking or drug taking habits, so I just chalk it up to either a bad test in Dec (is that possible?) or that my liver wants to be good.  "Good little liver..."

Who knew before getting BC that I would ever become aware that my liver was pudgy?  Among a myriad of other things...

elimar86861

SnS,  Adding to my surprise about the fatty liver was that my ALT and AST were normal at the last blood draw in March.  The way I see it is that there is no reason why my liver can't get back to it's former svelte figure, but I won't have a way to really know what is going on in there until the next CT I have in about a year.  It is an asymptomatic, and not-too-serious condition; therefore, I think it is best that I kind of "forget about it" and just keep working on my overall well-being.

Tomboy

ELIMAR! tooo funny, your response to what those clown doll were used for! All i want to know is, how do you know that it was sand in the bottom? you must have gone a little further than punching and kicking etc .. and... acually... maybe... STABBED... one?!?

Footballnut

I remember the punching clown. I had one!!  The nose would honk whenever you punched it. Wish I had one of those now !!

Lol

MinusTwo

Our punching clown was Bozo the Clown.  Maybe a bit before some of you were ready to punch.  I can verify the sand because I remember my brother cutting open the bottom of one to see what was inside.

elimar86861

I don't remember my actual brutality, but I am still busted for knowing about the sand.

All you behavioral psychology buffs out there can read about the Bobo Doll Experiment here.  There is a You Tube video as well.

Momine

Saw these two on FB and for some strange reason thought of all of you

Eph3_12

Oh I LOVE the Keith Richards one.  Must steal.

barbe1958

Momine, never saw the Keith Richards one, either!!! hehehehehehhee, thanks for sharing!!

Footballnut

now we know that heroin is good for u. Just ask keef!!  Lol

macatacmv

hi everyone, just checking in and catching up. I've been busy taking care of DD. Yes, she went into surgery at 9pm. and didn't get done until 2am. But she got a great hip revision. The doc did the "whole nine yards" . Now she has a continuous motion machine, an ice machine and pumps for her calves. She had something called Legg-Perthes when she was young that affected the ball joint in her left hip. Hopefully this will give her some pain free years. She'll be on crutches for 9 weeks. This was her 5th surgery since 2nd grade. We are staying in a studio hotel room with a kitchenette and I get to wait on her hand and foot. But today I took a walk by the Eagle River while she was at her morning PT session.

I remember those clown dolls.  Didn't everyone cut open the bottom to see what was in there? The same with the stretch armstrong. We had to find out what was in there, too. How about the rock n sock em robots?

Sorry about your fat liver, eli. Hope it gets back on it's best behavior. 

Loral

Mac....I had Legg-Perthes too. I wore a full leg brace when I was 4 wore it for a year I remember the crazy looking shoe. That hip is fine, my problem is now my left hip.....I hope your daughter heals well with no more complications....

Footballnut

my hubby had leg perthes too and was in a body cast and spent many months in the hospital when he was younger. 

OMG. Stretch Armstrong!  Rock em sock em robots!  Memories!  Then there were hot wheels and big Jim and evel keneivel!!   Light bright!  Spirograph!!  Lol

macatacmv

ha ha fbn, all the crazy toys of yesteryear. 

I am amazed both loral and fbn's hubby had legg perthes. We only know one other person in our community who had it and he was a younger boy. Dawn was in a spica cast and then a wheelchair  for 2 years, but she is able to do almost everything just with some pain. We're hoping this gets her pain free for a while. She has a leg length discrepancy, but because I am a cobbler I can take care of putting lifts on her shoes. lol

I'm waiting for her at PT right now. There is certainly a lot of hurry up wait involved in this process.

Footballnut

yup my hubby gad leg perthes and always thought that he had a metal pin of sorts in his hip which he doesn't. When he was a kid he used to live showing everyone his scar - males are strange!!  Lol

His upper body developed to full size but his legs never did so he is a cute 5'1" just a bit shorter than me. Good things come in small packages!

And his legs bang on his double bass drums whenever he gets a chance!!!  

:-)

elimar86861

mac, Glad to hear your daughter's surgery went well.  PT is hard work, but well worth the effort to get mobilized again.

Son #1`just arrived home for the summer.  Son #2 sleeping off the party he went to last night.  I made a potato salad.  Yup, it's Memorial weekend all right.

Hope all are enjoying it as well.  Even you Canadiennes.

Footballnut

hubby and I are celebrating beautiful weather with him rolling a lint brush over my scalp!!  Lol

Elimar he'd love some of ur potato salad!

Getting rest to watch the NASCAR race then hockey!  What can be better than Jeff Gordon and the ny rangers?  Lol

wirdgirl118

Footballnut, what a great and saucy smiling photo - thanks for posting! Hope you are feeling well.

wirdgirl118

oh I think I had a friend with leg perthes, he had to be in a brace that held his legs just so, he was maybe in first or second grade.

macatacmv

wirdgirl, yes, probably perthes or dysplasia.

I want to make potato salad. It doesn't feel like a holiday weekend. I'll have to find a little pack of mustard somewhere, tho. I don't want to have to buy a whole jar. We're only here for another week. Maybe the cafeteria in the hospital will have some. She is starting to be hungry and keeping food down now. All good signs.

wirdgirl118

I am becoming like that with the idea of, I don't need a whole jar of mustard in my cupboard. There must be a stray packet somewhere here at the office, etc. lol

macatacmv

Oh, I did manage to make the potato salad, we got some mustard from a restaurant in a little to go cup. All my DD wants to eat is mac and cheese, tho. 

We took a rest out by the pool today between PT sessions. It is so odd to me to see snow topped mountains while soaking in the sun. 

Momine

Mac, Where the heck are you? That looks amazing.