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  • PT63
    PT63 Member Posts: 329
    edited March 2009

    Good Evening Ladies

    Lisa...Happy Days happen when drains come out!  Wishing you a quick return to activity.

    Springtime... you crack me up - I hope those colonics work for you.  I got cleaned out for my hysterectomy and then had a terrible upheaval from the anaesthetic and I didn't lose a pound.

    Deanna... congrats on your weight loss.  Keep it up girl!

    Way to go Kari...I always feel better after I exercise but sometimes it is sooooo hard to get there.

    Penny, Spring and Vivre..how are things?

    Mumayan, our friend who started this thread, are you still with us?

    Yesterday I did the gym: weights and elliptical.  Today I went to kickboxing.  I think I am taking tomorrow off but we will see.

    Take care!

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  • dani42
    dani42 Member Posts: 423
    edited March 2009

    vivre

    I have had my thyroid checked just about every year because I have sooo many of the symptoms but it always comes back normal.  My mother has had underactive thyroid for years.  There are times she has gone off the medicine and she has had crippling flare up of her arthritis.  It is so amazing how everything ties together. 

     I haven't had my hormone levels checked in years but I am curious about them.  I had a partial hysterectomy over 10 years ago so I will have a hard time knowing when I am in menopause (I still have my ovaries so I will go through  'the change").   

    Yes, let me know how you make out with your tests results.

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  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited March 2009

    Hello there my Jan Rads sisters! I decided to finally join you.

    I need motivation of a different sort.... I need to move my mind past this bc.... Thought I was doing all right after rads, when I saw my onc for my one month check up, I felt great physically. Mentally, I have a hard time keeping it together sometimes.... Went to town this morning by myself & cried all the way home. I keep telling myself, the bc tumor was removed, I did my rad time & now am on Aromasin (no SE's so far, knock on wood), but then the "What ifs??" start coming around, what if, what if, what if????? I try not to 'go there', I need to distract myself & it does work at times, but... I'm just in this funk & I need TO GET OUT OF IT.

    I've followed all of your posts since the very beginning & everyone seems so motivated to their dancing, exercising, walking, diet, etc. I just seem to be going in circles....

    Even just writing this right now seems silly, trivial in fact. Snap out of it Val !!!!

    Sorry for the downer of this post, I'm sure I'll feel better soon. I'm not depressed, I just need to move on & not sure how to go about that, I guess. How do I get around this new bend in the road?

    I looked at a jump rope at Meijer today, should have bought it. Need to start something new, I guess. I'm going to get back to my scrapbooking tomorrow, am way behind in the books of my Grandbabies.

    Thanks for listening,

    Val

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  • PT63
    PT63 Member Posts: 329
    edited March 2009

    Welcome Val!

    I think we all experience "random acts of crying".  It's normal and to be expected!  This whole thing is traumatic.

    I used to love scrapbooking! I did it with a friend but then she moved away and it wasn't as fun.  We used to do it as a group in another ladies house.  Do you get together with others too?

    Do you have an ipod?  I find that sometimes I just take a walk with me, my ipod and the dog.  It helps me to de-compress and still have some alone time.

    Glad you are joining us!

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited March 2009

    Lisa - report back on the jiggly-ness!

    Kari - Yay! it's working for you!!! I think "reporting in" to this list has gotten me off my butt several times too!

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  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 850
    edited March 2009

    Springtime...I will tell you the "girls" feel a lot softer, but PS said no vigorous exercise for a week, so I've been afraid to test the jiggly factor! LOL  But as soon as I do, you'll be the first, well maybe not the first, to know! LOL 

    It was so much better sleeping last night without the drains!  And my zumba students were very impressed with the results...they said they look so much more natural!  Those expanders really stood out! LOL

    Val, welcome!  I think we all come to terms with this journey in our own time.  For me, I HAD cancer.  I dealt with it.  I don't do the what ifs, because you could do that in regards to anything.  What if I get in a car accident, what if I get hit by a bus, what if the plane crashes, ....  But that is me and that is how I decided to deal with this.  I won't let it define my life.  I have too much living left to do.  I plan on being here to harass my great grandchildren!

    I was able to zumba just a little more last night...enough to get a little sweat going! LOL

    Make it a great day ladies!

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  • pk0199
    pk0199 Member Posts: 586
    edited March 2009

    Hi All,

    Val-some of the ladies here went through what you are right at the end of rads, some of us are more delayed and still trying to deal with that "next"step. I am one of those delayed person , PM me if you would like to talk further. Right now , I am just trying to exercise and take each day as they come. I go back to work next week and am petrified to do so, but again, one day at a time.

    Well ladies, it is snowing once again! I am afraid there will be no budding flowers at all this year.

    Tonight is my DS birthday celebration with his friends, 6 -16-17yr old boys gaming till all hours of the night, good thing they will be in the basement!

    Lisa-sounds like you are doing amazing with your surgery!

    Big HI to all.

    Missing a few people, Mumayan, Susier , Deanna and Chris-haven't heard from you in awhile hope all is well.

    Penny

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  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited March 2009

    Welcome Val!  

    I hope we can all keep helping to inspire one another and come and vent when and if we need to.  So much support here its wonderful.

    Last night did an hour's worth of walking, yoga poses, stretching!  It felt good!  But, I do have to say...maybe its the Tamox?....but after 30 min. of walking my hips start to ache, never happened to me before!  I will ask my onc tomorrow morning at my appt with her.  My body has been so out of whack from chemo/rads...only sleeping on my right side and back.  When my skin heals up from rads I'm going to use the 5 1-hr massages that my office gave me as a gift!  How sweet was that?!  I'm a lucky girl indeed!

    Penny, good luck with going back to work, you will surprised at how nice it is to feel "normal" by doing normal routines again!  That's what got me through all this was coming to work each day and playing "normal"!  LOL  Good luck tonight with the teenagers too!  My girls are all grown up now, 23 and 25 but boy do I remember those good times! LOL

    Lisa, I LOVE your attitude girl!  

    Make it a GREAT day! 

    The human spirit is stronger than anything that can happen to it ~C.C. Scott 

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2009

    Good morning, everyone ~ Well, I never got around to my afternoon walk yesterday because I passed out while waiting in line at the post office to mail a package yesterday afternoon!  I'm sure it was caused by the Femara I started about a week ago, which had made me extremely nauseatious and woozy all day yesterday, culminating in the post office incident.  I'm going to phone my onc's office shortly, but I am already anticipating a frustrating reaction like, "...never heard of such a thing... couldn't have been the Femara...," blah, blah, blah...    

    Val, so glad to see you here!  I think the funk you describe hits us all occasionally.  I just try to tell myself that bc has already stolen a year of my life, and I refuse to give it take anymore due to fear.  But, that said, I was surprised to find myself breaking down in tears yesterday afternoon (before the p.o. incident) when I called my onc's office to ask about the blood work they'd done last week, and learned that my CA2729 (that tumor marker test) was extremely low.  So, no matter how much we try to minimize those fears, I guess they'll always exist to some degree.

    Lisa, you truly are an inspiration!   Deanna

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  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited March 2009

    Valjean(love that, my favorite book, Les Miserables, the ultimate story of survival!): The physical part of bc was the easiest for me. The emotional part took a lot more time. The one thing that helped me get back my mental health, was exercise. Like pk said, get an IPOD. I finally got one and loaded up my favorite tunes and hit the trail. Walking and listening to music was emotional therapy. I could escape into  this private world everyday, and slowly but surely, let go of all the emotional baggage that was weighing me down. If you do not get bc out of your head, you will never be healthy. I can honestly say, that I have no fear it will come back. I know my body and mind are healthier than before, and able to fight off any free radicals. I hope you find this place of peace too. It is liberating.

    It was hard to get motivated last night for my TV workout with the presidential teleprompter preempting American Idol. I could only listen to the droning for a few minutes because my blood pressure started to boil so I had to switch the channel. I found some show about a wedding in Italy, so that got my mind back into a better mood, and I got my hour in. I can't say enough about how I enjoy rebounding. I hope you all will give it a try. The jump rope will work too. All the jumping is great for keeping the lymph going.

    Pk-sorry to hear you are still in the cold up there. I promise I will not brag when I finally see a flower blooming here-not like SOME people who just feel compelled to rub it in!!!!

    Maybe some of you should join us over on the natural girls thread. I am going to bring  up the subject of natural hormones again. Get ready for the fireworks!

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited March 2009

    Val, we've been through a lot. I am weaning myself off the anti-depresants I was on for "crying jags" -- Maybe you need to wean on them for a while?? LOL. I think I'll be okay without, and didn't want more chemicals in my body. I am taking all sorts of good stuff. But, sometimes you just need them for a bit to get over a tough spot. (IMHO)

    Lisa, AMEN girl. we just have to wrap our heads around your great attitude! Good on the softer!!! Wooo!!!

    Tonight for me is 90 minute "warrior woman" yoga class. I did okay last week after 8 months off. No walking today, it is gray and GROSS outside. Happily, Yoga is inside! 

    "Make it a great day" !!!!

    Springtime...

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  • pk0199
    pk0199 Member Posts: 586
    edited March 2009

    Deanna-I posted on the other thread too, but I am glad to hear you are okay, get checked out though.

    kfinnigan- I think I am a bit excited to go back to work, to get back to "normal" Not excited about working, I was enjoying being at home but realize that I was hiding too! At home I was safe and protected, now it it time to get back to the real world.

    Springtime-warrior on!!!

    Later.

    Penny

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  • kfinnigan
    kfinnigan Member Posts: 1,729
    edited March 2009

    Deanna, let us know what your onc says.  Did you hurt yourself at all?  I hope you're ok!!  Also, I've never heard of that tumor mark test...hmmm

    Vivre, you made me laugh...I could picture you in front of the TV listening to the drone, LOL!  Good thing American Idol is on tonight!!  Ok, exactly what is Rebounding?  Is that on the little trampoline? I'm equipment illiterate apparently!  

    Hate to brag, but I will, weather is hitting over the 70 degree mark for the next week...but another windstorm is headed our way!  I hope all of you in cold country get there soon too!  

    Springtime aka warrior yoga woman - that's a long class!!  Good job!!

    Penny - its time to come out of the cocoon (so so easy to do) and you will be happy you did!  Here at work, I've even taken off my wig very quickly for the few that want to see my hair progress.  They want to start a pool to see who can guess how long it will take for my hair to grow to my wig's length.  I will be nervous the day I come in here without my wig!  I'm hiding behind her (I call her Ginger), everyone is always telling me the wig looks so good on me, makes me look younger, etc.  I just want to punch Ginger sometimes! LOL

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  • DianneMS
    DianneMS Member Posts: 105
    edited March 2009

    Hi folks

    This is by far one of my favorite topic.  I am not very good about writing, but I love reading and this keeps me getting on my tread mill every morning.  Now with Lacrosse season starting my time is very limited.  

    Anyway, wasn't there somewhere on this topic about the video of the DEIP. I started watching it and not I cann't find the link to finish it.  I am having a Bilateral DEIP in July after Lacrosse, graduation and music camp.  I had found it really interesting and I would love to finish it.  Thanks for the help.

     Everyone is talking about the great weather. Well after a gray, rainy morning the sun has come out.  Also in the 50s. Pretty good for MI

    Dianne

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited March 2009

    Dianne, I think I just have that DIEP video somewhere. PM me. Now, this is one at Beth Isreal in NYC, and you see the actual surgery, right? That's the one you're looking for??

    Spring. (getting ready for YOGA!!! woooo!)

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2009

    I have come to the conclusion that oncs & their staffs must go through some sort of training for SE Denial or Refuting, no doubt taught by the drug companies.  My onc's PA told me this morning that she not only has never heard of anyone passing out from Femara, but she managed to place the blame on ME, by saying the whole thing was probably due to my anxiety about taking the med!  Brilliant!!! 

    Thanks for letting me vent................. 

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  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 850
    edited March 2009

    Deanna you are so right!  They try to tell us the side effects won't happen or that there is a small chance or that we are making things up!  I got a lot of that when I told my onc I wasn't going to take Tamoxifen.  But when I handed his research nurse some studies I had found...she shut up!  They like to talk to us about relative statistcis when it comes to the benefit and absolute statistics when it comes to side effects!

    Like I always say.....self education is the key!

    Just got home from Zumba.....more new students today! 

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  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited March 2009

    Hi gals,

    Thanks so much for the positive responses to my dreary post. I know I'm the only one who can get myself out of this funky place, but you sure helped. I do feel like I have been hiding at home, guess I need to get out more!

    Lisa~You are such a positive influence! I have taken to heart your statement, "I won't let it define my life." When I read that, I repeated it several times & it hit home & brought tears to my eyes. I had cancer, it is gone. There, I said it. I need to keep saying it....

    I walked outside today before it started to rain hard & walked fast around my 1 1/12 acres & it felt good. I live off a paved road, but I don't like walking along it, so won't do that; never feel safe with the traffic. I walked up & down my basement stairs several times until my legs begged me to stop. I will buy that jump rope the next time I get to town.

    Springtime~You have such a sunny disposition, are you always this happy?

    PT~I scrapbook by myself & take it all to my daughter's to work on when I see her every few months. I don't have an ipod, might just have to check that out. Great idea.

    Penny~I PM'd you. How did your son's b-day celebration go? (or should I ask, how was it for you?)  lol

    vivre~I have realized that my health has a lot to do w/my recovery. I take my vitamins, but I know emotionally I need to move on. I have read the natural girls thread, very, very informative. I will post there soon as I have a question about flaxseed & want to check out the subject of natural hormones that you are going to tackle!!

    Kari~Thanks for your support.

    Well, I must get to bed. I know I need more sleep than I usually get, sometimes only 5-6 hours & I know I should get more.

    All my best to everyone,

    Val

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited March 2009

    Val,

    you sound better today. :) I can relate to reading "I won't let it define my life' over and over and bursting into tears. I was at lunch with two girlfriends (we snuck away from work!) and I said something about "having cancer". And one stopped me and looked hard at me and said, "Bev, you HAD cancer". And I let that soak in. Could i believe it? I am still getting my head around it!!!  I so want to BE that thought, through and through and through. It did make me smile though. SHE believes it for me! I will get there.... I think that is another journey... Right now, I feel like I am fighting the cancer still. (Does anybody else feel like this?)

    As for me, I am typically sunny. But, I am not always. When the ONCs told me that the chemo may not be working, well. That was harder than the chemo itself! But the tumor started shrinking AFTER the AC and during the Taxol. Who knew. :) Sometimes if I can be happy with little things, it sort of spreads. It feels better than being anxious or sad. Maybe I just let it. I dont know.

    Deanna, (okay this is me being mad as spit!) GOOD Freaking GRIEF!!! How totally stuuuuupid. Anxiety about a PILL??? Has this woman been through a cancer diagnosis, staging, chemo, surgery, rads??? How dare she. And she thinks you have the flutters over a PILL???????? This is just infuriating!!! You are a warrior! A pill, PEH!!!!

    Lisa, as always, you are an inspiration! New Students!!! :)  I wish we were all together and you could teach us Zumba. What a wonderful thought. How much healing and good would there be in that???

    My 90 min yoga last night was good. The walking has made my legs rock strong and I am telling you, I could hold that Warrior 2 position with all those verticle side angles, etc., like never before! And I didn't flinch too much taking my cap off. I think I am getting used to my new boyishly short hair, and of course, it keeps growing.

    Weather for Virve: Today and for many days here it is RAINING!!! I hope you are satisfied Virve!!! (LOL LOL LOL) It will be the eliptical cross-trainer for me, and some arm and ab work! Speak it and make it so!

    Springie (Beverly)

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2009

    Springie/Beverly ~  I'm sitting here smiling after reading your post!  Thank you for being such a ray of sunshine on this board!  And, Val, I'm so glad that you're making an effort to get out of the house, and are feeling a bit better.  I keep telling myself that it took us months to go through everything we have, and expecting to be done with it and immediately return to feeling great just isn't realistic.  I think many times we're still processing a lot of the feelings our minds didn't allow us to face earlier.

    I'm still laying low today.  I talked to my UCLA onc's PA yesterday, and she said, yes, although not common, Femara could have caused me to pass out.  I wrote more about it on another thread I'd started (Femara & Passing Out) if anyone's interested.  Don't feel like re-hashing it here because it's certainly not motivational.  But, hopefully, the queasiness and nausea I'm still experiencing will be gone soon.  Related to all that though, very early yesterday a.m. when I couldn't sleep, I'd gone to the kitchen to make a cup of tea and managed to walk into a chest in the dark.  Not sure if I broke it, but one of my toes is totally blue, swollen and painful. (Darn!) Luckily, we have some exercise equipment, so I guess I'll have to clear that off (I've had my wigs hanging on the handles of the stair climber!), and get moving on those today.   

    Val ~  When you say "natural girls thread," are you referring to the alternative thread here?  I  wasn't sure if that's what you meant, or if I've missed something, like a new forum or separate site.   Deanna

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  • pk0199
    pk0199 Member Posts: 586
    edited March 2009

    Lisa-how about sending some of your energy and positive vibes my way! You make me tired reading your posts! Just kidding, you go girl. Take Springtime with you, she isn't far behind you!  I am hoping once I go back to work I will be as "springy" as you two. Just feel like I have stalled for a bit here, need to rev the juices back up. It is really hard here to get excited about much when we had snow Sunday, Wed and now supposidly again tomorrow! I want flowers and birds, the smell of fresh cut grass, soon I hope.

    Deanna-are you still taking the femara or have you stopped? Can you go on to something else? I haven't got that far with my docs to find out what I will be on so not sure of all of the drugs. Take care of yourself.

    And finally, the bday party-went well, some beer was snuck in, like I didn't know that was going to happen, actually told them I knew and my only rule was if you throw up you clean up. Kept the alarm on all night so I would hear if anyone snuck out. Two of the boys stayed up all night gaming. We could hear them until about midnight then they kept it down. They must have kept the dog up all night though, he is extremely sluggish this morning!

    Not sure when I will exercise today as my equipment is downstairs with the boys, must get rid of them soon!

    Take care everyone and please will someone send us some sunshine and good weather up here!!!!!

    Deanna be well!

    Penny

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  • PT63
    PT63 Member Posts: 329
    edited March 2009

    Can't send you any sunshine today.... Rain Rain Rain.

    My girls are working on their silver award for girl scouts and we are supposed to install the bird houses at a girl scout camp.... guess what they are predicting.... Rain Rain Rain.

    Penny- be careful about the alcohol in the house.  I can't remember the location where it happened but I just heard about parents being prosecuted for that.  Although I know that the laws are to protect the under-age, I find it a little amazing that there are many kids going to Iraq and Afghanistan but they can't even have a beer here at home.  Isn't the 60s and 70s when the changed the age to 18 because of the Vietnam war? 

    I did my cardio at the gym this AM since my weight watchers friend was going.  I had to keep her a little motivated.  I tried to get her to try intervals so that she gets her heart rate up a minute.  I told her to try a 3 to 1 ratio.  We'll see if I can get her to kick it up a notch.  I am still going to go to kickboxing tonight.  I actually am starting to see a difference in my arms.  Less flab, more muscle.

    Take care...

    (singing now:  rain rain, go away.....) 

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited March 2009

    CAn somebody post the a link to the "Natural girls" thread? And Deanne, I will try to find your Femara thread, but post here if you can. You know there 2 other AIs you can also try.

    Springie.

    Verve: It's still gray and raining here!!!! :)

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  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 850
    edited March 2009

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/730113?page=7#idx_183

     Running out the door to Zumba!

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited March 2009

    Lisa doll, that link pooped out for me!

    Page Not Found 

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  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 2,167
    edited March 2009

    The sun was shining today. HAHAHA! I took a nice walk along the river. And it was really really warm, in the 50's. The high schoolers were wearing their flipflops. Did not see any flowers yet, so I am not rubbing it in, in all due respect to you Penny.

    Had a good Idol work out last night. Love that Motown sound. I thought they all sang great.

    Val, keep you chin up. There is life after bc, and it can be great! I am so much happier now that I let go of all the "stuff". Feel free to vent here. It is so good to get it out. And do a little verbal abusing to the sky during you walks. Once you say it, you can let it go. If you just keep things inside, they fester and poison your soul.

    For those of you who want to lose weight, I advise you not to get on the scale, for at least two months. Do not fret over every ounce because your wt will go up and down. If you exercise everyday and only eat healthy foods, you will lose weight. After 2  months you will see a big movement on the scale, and that will be the motivation to keep it up-plus you will fee better. If you start to feel discouraged that you only lost five pounds. Pick up 5 pounds of sugar and carry it around for a while. You will then be able to put into perspective that 5 pounds is heavy!

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  • lisasayers
    lisasayers Member Posts: 850
    edited March 2009

    Springtime I just bumped it up!

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  • Valjean
    Valjean Member Posts: 1,898
    edited March 2009

    I walked outside again today, for 30 minutes this time. It smelled nice & the birds were enjoying themselves. I've decided to treat this excess 'baggage' I have loaded upon myself as if it were pounds, & I will walk it away, I'll unload (BIG hot flash happening now!) it as if my life & sanity depended on it. I guess my mental well-being does, doesn't it? 

    vivre ~ I like this idea of 'verbal abusing to the sky' as I walk. Never thought of just getting it out that way.... "Once you say it, you can let it go." Thank you so much for that.

    Deanna ~ You are bound & determined to hurt yourself, aren't you? Falling & hitting your head, now stubbing your toe (how is it, by the way?) You might need to start wearing pads on certain parts of your anatomy to protect yourself! Yes, the Natural Girls thread is on our Alternative forum, but you've probably already found it by now since Lisa posted the link. I find it very interesting, really makes one think hard about what we put into our bodies. I intend to consider some changes myself.

    Thank you all for caring & helping to get me motivated to continue on this journey that I did not choose, or any of you for that matter. I'm going to try my best.You really got me thinking & seeing things in a new light, now if I can just make it work for me.

    Hugs,

    Val

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  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited March 2009

    I have to join here... If I could just get out and exercise as much as I have been shopping , I'd be in good shape!  Ugg....... MOTIVATE MOTIVATE MOTIVATE MOTIVATE!

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  • pk0199
    pk0199 Member Posts: 586
    edited March 2009

    Susan, shopping is fine as long as you walk briskly around the mall for 30 min before and after if you still can. You would have your 30 min of exercise for the day.

    Me, I am patiently waiting for the weather to turn so I can incorporate a 30 min walk in the eve outside (along with my gym workout). We did not get the snow today that they promised, woohoo! It is sunny but very windy and my diva dog hates the wind and it is driving him batty (me too).

    Anyway back to my quiet time with the boy, he still seems a bit tired from his bday  sleep over, wouldn't be so tired if they actually had slept! He went to bed last night at 9, that was after he woke from his half hour nap, his dad tried to wake him around 1030ish, finally he crawled out of bed about half past 11. He is now firmly planted on the couch.

    Have a great weekend all. Hope everyone is doing well!

    Penny

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