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Wasilla looks to Palin's future - First Read - msnbc.com OK, this is not the article Amy was talking about, but if you want some good laughs, read the comments people have made on this article at the bottom. They would have fit right in on our board! I think her insult on us is an overwhelming feeling!
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I just read something I thought was a pretty amazing prediction, from 1958! Henry Louis Gates wrote a column today, about Obama, and he quoted the late Jacob Javits, New York Senator:
The award for prescience, however, goes to Jacob K. Javits, the liberal Republican senator from New York who, incredibly, just a year after the integration of Central High School in Little Rock, predicted that the first black president would be elected in the year 2000. In an essay titled "Integration from the Top Down" printed in Esquire magazine in 1958, he wrote:
"What manner of man will this be, this possible Negro Presidential candidate of 2000? Undoubtedly, he will be well-educated. He will be well-traveled and have a keen grasp of his country's role in the world and its relationships. He will be a dedicated internationalist with working comprehension of the intricacies of foreign aid, technical assistance and reciprocal trade. ... Assuredly, though, despite his other characteristics, he will have developed the fortitude to withstand the vicious smear attacks that came his way as he fought to the top in government and politics ... those in the vanguard may expect to be the targets for scurrilous attacks, as the hate mongers, in the last ditch efforts, spew their verbal and written poison."
Wow! pretty much spot-on!
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Oh..and I just want to go on the record and say that I thought Michelle's dress was very unique, but she made it work!!! I think all of them looked fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OK...good night Obama ladies!!
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AnnNYC--What a great find! Thanks for posting it.
I'm not a regular here but I wanted to share some of my thoughts and experiences of the past couple of days. I came home from a hospital visit, wrote this and sent it to some friends and family. I thought you'd enjoy some of this too...
I realize that it’s only coincidence that the endless rain of the last two weeks gave way to the sun yesterday. And I realize too that the sun is shining today a little brighter it seems because simply, it’s time. After all, I’m not even in the United States. But how incredible is it that even the people here in Italy who I encounter seem just a little bit lighter of spirit—strangers give me a thumbs up with a smile. My Obama/Biden t-shirt draws their attention, even in the hospital (where at my age I’m a frequent visitor). But it’s more than that. I can sense it.
After the doctor visit, I stopped by the bar for a cappuccino e cornette ('bars' in Italy are similar to fast food stops in US—coffee and pastry is the Italian breakfast). The morning talk show was on the TV. The topic of discussion…..”The World Changed”. They were broadcasting the entire acceptance speech of President Elect Obama—in his own words, not dubbed—the Italian translation scrolled below.
I realized in that moment more than ever that our forefathers (and mothers) who framed our US Constitution understood well our human nature and the need to treasure and protect our freedoms and human rights—never take them for granted. Now the world is engaged in that conversation too more than ever before. This is the wisdom encapsulated in that Document and all of the laws built upon it. Human rights have no boundaries. This is the strength of those carefully chosen words in our Constitution. How good it felt to watch people from a foreign country sharing in the joy of people dancing in the streets. Even with consideration to the cultural differences, they watch and listen to the joyous and passionate reactions, then watch and listen to their own government officials respond to the US phenomenon of a free, democratic election—and to the entire speech of Mr. Obama. They heard the stories and saw the images of long lines, hours of wait for a people with a single purpose--to exercise their right to vote.
My sister telephoned from the US and woke me on 5 Nov at 5 am to tell me we have President elect Obama! I had expected a protracted election process (much like our inherited economy) and much longer wait for results. So, immediately, I turned on the international news to follow along. I listened with much respect to Sen. McCain’s concession speech. With the excitement of a new birth, I surfed between CNN, BBC and RAI (Italian)—waiting. Even the news journalists were lucent with the news—the moment profound, historic. I received a text message on my cellular from Annamaria “I know that you’re watching this”. I phoned her immediately. I began to gush with my joy uncontainable and she joined me. Then I cried saying “This is what can happens when you give people the chance….” I sobbed with vivid memories of the days of civil rights but more so the trials of the last eight years. Oh how far we’ve come! My friend Annamaria volunteers for Amnesty International—she understands well how precious is freedom and how vigilant the care. I was so grateful to share that moment, our US moment with her. Then I called my son. It's that kind of moment...it needed to be aired and shared. It was a long time coming.
Now then—back to work—there is much to do. This isn’t the end—it’s a new beginning.
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g- it wasn't an article, but I will look for a transcript later-- my body is still recovering from tuesday night; I need a thorough massage-- fibro is biting my butt but this is so worth it.
To everyone who chatted through the election-- I had a blast. It was a privelege to share the evening with all of you.
Grace- I too was moved by Jesse Jackson's tears. Yesterday one of the pundits commented how young Jackson was back when he was with MLK when he was killed. No matter how one feels about Jackson, he has been through a lot and done a lot for the country and to see such an open display of raw emotion was humbling.
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Someone smack my hand - I looked over there ------->. So much anger and fear. It's really sad.
I have to say that I find the dirty laundry coming out of the McCain campaign to be rather hilarious. They are saying all the same things about Palin that everyone else was saying at the same time when he was defending his selection of her as VP.
The fact that she spent tens of thousands of dollars MORE on clothes than the $150K previously reported is stunning. Maybe she will really fade into oblivion by Christmas, but I am not getting my hopes up - she loves the attention too much to go away.
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djd- didn't you ever read about pavlov's dogs??????
It's very clear Palin made few or no friends from the campaign staff. It is funny. Newsweek is going to have some great articles next week about her. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Palin has a loose relationship with ethics, particularly where money is concerned. Gucci shoes for the kids? Give me a break., -
The entire world is celebrating...this truly is the dawn of a new era. Headlines in London, Paris, Canada....parties in Africa, Indonesia. I was told that Kenya has declared today a National Holiday.I was too exhausted yesterday to really revel in the victory. The night before my husband and I took the 4-8 shift knocking on doors...they put us in the poorest, most right wing part of the county. It was a little scary,..driving around in the boonies, driving up long driveways in the dark and knocking on doors. Someone finally told us we were in dangerous territory and we'd better get out before we got shot. We didn't change a single vote but at least we tried, and I am proud to say that I knocked on doors for Obama. In Michigan, our county stands out as a blatant red square in the midst of a sea of blue. And then we were up half the night, but fell asleep after McCain's concession speech. A marvelous, classy speech it was.Yesterday morning I had the pleasure of calling my 86 year old Mom in her nursing home, a dyed in the wool Republican who fell in love with Obama a year before I did, to tell her we'd WON!!! She had a stroke last year and couldn't vote, and she still can't talk too clearly, but there was no doubt in my mind about how happy she was. Her main point in life was to live to see the election.I had not seen Obama's victory speech until my husband came home. We played it on the laptop, holding hands, so proud, so happy. It is the first time since the Kennedy assassination that I've had so much faith in our leadership.The only problem I have with all of this is that they're calling it a racial victory. I think it's the man, and the man alone who is important.Miz
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linora- that's really beautiful-- it feels so good to have been a part of volunteering and some tiny part of the election.
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Good morning, sisters. I thought I'd share this from my morning reading of the NYTimes (I'm addicted.) I really like Gail Collins.
November 6, 2008 Op-Ed Columnist
Thinking of Good Vibrations
By GAIL COLLINS
Tralalalalala.
We are only thinking cheerful thoughts today, people. America did good. Enjoy.
Even if you voted for John McCain, be happy. You've got the best of all worlds. Today, you can bask in the realization that there are billions of people around the planet who loathed our country last week but are now in awe of its capacity to rise above historic fears and prejudices, that once again, the United States will have a president the world wants to follow.
Then later, when things get screwed up, you can point out that it's not your fault.
About the inevitable disasters: I am sorry to tell you, excited youth of America, that Barack Obama is going to make mistakes. And the country's broke. Perhaps we should have mentioned this before. But let's leave all that to 2009. When somebody runs one of the best presidential campaigns ever, he deserves a little time to enjoy the sweet spot between achievement of a goal and the arrival of the consequences.
Let's hear it for the voters. Good turnout, guys - especially you Virginians who stood in line for seven hours. A professor at George Mason University who studies this sort of thing claims that there hasn't been such a high participation level since 1908. You could turn out to be the ever-elusive answer to the question: "Name one thing that Barack Obama has in common with William Howard Taft?"
Let's hear it for Hillary Clinton, who lost but made the country comfortable with the idea of a woman as chief executive. And Joe Biden, who actually ran a disciplined campaign, given his truly exceptional capacity to say weird things.
And let's give a shout-out to John McCain. As desperate as he was, he still passed up opportunities to poke hard at the nation's fault lines of race, religion and region - although he has probably created a permanent gap between the rest of us and segments of the country who feel under imminent threat from Bill Ayers.
McCain ran a dreadful campaign, but it's over. Give the guy a break. He was stuck with George Bush. And the Republican Party. And the fact that he was constitutionally incapable of giving a decent speech. The road was hard, but he soldiered on and did a lovely concession Tuesday night. Kudos.
Sarah Palin did go over the top with her small towns vs. the world mantra. However, she does get credit for giving us a real understanding of the difference between a moose and a caribou.
O.K., there is nothing positive to say about Sarah Palin. And Alaska, are you re-electing Ted Stevens? What's going on there? Did you actually believe him when he said that the court verdict was still up in the air? On the day after he was found guilty? By the way, if Stevens does win, it will be with about 106,000 votes. In total. There are more people than that in my immediate neighborhood! What kind of state is this, anyway?
But we're in a good mood, so let's forget Alaska. Instead, we'll contemplate the fact that North Carolina tossed Elizabeth Dole out of office despite her ad campaign aimed at convincing the state that her opponent, Kay Hagan, was an atheist. This was accomplished, you may remember, through the creative strategy of showing Hagan's picture along with another woman's voice saying: "There is no God!" If Dole had won, by the next election we would have been bombarded with ads that appeared to show candidates saying "I support adultery!" or "Let's kill the puppies!" Now that won't happen. Thank you, North Carolina.
By the way, I believe that during the campaign McCain's great friend Senator Lindsey Graham said something along the line of promising to drown himself if North Carolina went for Obama. I believe I speak for us all, Senator Graham, when I say that we are feeling extremely mellow today and you do not have to follow through.
Congratulations to Senator Susan Collins on her re-election. The entire moderate Republican caucus in the Senate may now wind up consisting of women from Maine. As Maine goes, so go the Supreme Court nominations.
Finally, on behalf of the baby-boom generation, I would like to hear a little round of applause before we cede the stage to the people who were too young to go to Woodstock and would appreciate not having to listen to the stories about it anymore. It looks as though we will be represented in history by only two presidents, one of whom is George W. Bush. Bummer.
The boomers didn't win any wars and that business about being self-involved was not entirely unfounded. On the other hand, they made the nation get serious about the idea of everybody being created equal. And now American children are going to grow up unaware that there's anything novel in an African-American president or a woman running for the White House.
We'll settle for that.
Everyone have a happy day,
Anne
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The New Blue America
The NY Times breakdown of how the country voted compared to 2004. The redder the area the more people shifted towards republicans. The bluer the area, the more people shifted towards the Democrats. get the interactive map here: http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html -
The Grand Ole Party A Regional Party?
The South accounted for 111 of the 174 electoral votes earned by the McCain-Palin campaign
This means that nearly two of every three electoral votes for the Republicans came from the South. -
Miz, thanks to you and your husband for you canvassing efforts. Great story about your mother. I agree that while you can't dismiss the historical fact of the election, and shouldn't, Obama is about much, much more than his race.
Anne, thanks for sharing the Collins column. I agree with all her points, including the one about Graham not having to make good on his promise to drown himself!
So the LA Times today is reporting that, in prepping for the VP debate, the McCain staff had to tell Palin that Africa is a continent and not a country. And she didn't know the 3 countries that make up the North America trade agreement. I can just imagine the horror that must have hit the McCain team when they realized just how bad a pick she was. It's unbelievable to me that this woman is a governor and that she was ever, ever considered for a presidential ticket. What an embarrassment. I do hope she goes back to Alaska and stays there, forever.
It's been great hearing about the world's reaction to Obama's election. It must be a very sobering reality for him, though, knowing that billions of people are watching and waiting. Hope he can get a little rest before tackling the world's problems!
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Obama won North Carolina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good morning Obama Ladies!
Blundin...thanks for sharing some oversea's thoughts! My cousin's have sent me emails from Germany, they are thrilled with Obama!!! It really is nice to to know we have gained respect with the rest of the planet! The US is big, but that's not all there is to this earth. Way back when Barack went to Europe and McCain slammed him for that, I thought it was the best choice Barack could have made! It let everyone else see what he is, and it worked!
Amy..if you find it, that would be great. But get some rest and a massage first! I had a great time talking to everyone on election night too!! I'm glad we got to share that together after our many months of posting!
Donna...I'm not surprised at their anger. But wow...I just don't get it at all. This is the most incredible time and to choose to be angry about it is just plain crazy. Oh well..My Obama signs and magnets are all over!! I am so proud!! I take my magnets off my car at at night and clean them and stick them back on! :-)
Miz..thank you for all your hard work!!! I volunteered this year too at the Obama campaign. I know all of us here did what ever we could to spread the word and to get people out there to Barack the Vote and we did!!!!
Anne....thanks for the article. I really can't stand Palin. Not a thing about her. There is not one single thing I admire about her. And really, the fact that Alaska has re-elected Ted Stevens, and found her not guilty of her ethics charge really, really say's alot. Perhaps all the closed minded people who are angry that Obama is our new President should all pack up and move to Alaska! Now that would be awesome! Not for the animals that are the brunt of their anger however, and the lack of respect toward the planet. Don't get me started. We are in the majority!!!! We are all coming together to do the best that we can! And I believe it will be alot that we do!
They finally declared our Senate seat going to the Democrats!!!!! Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Woo-hoooooooo!!!!!!
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LA..at this point I would be surprised if Palin DID know anything!!!!!!!!! She is an idiot!!!! I can't say it enough..she has been one of the biggest insults to the American people, more so to women. I am disgusted by anyone that thinks she is a role model for any woman anywhere in the world!
Amy...that's awesome!!!!!!!!!!
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LAP- I heard those reports about Palin's lack of basic knowledge too. I just want to know how low are Alaska's standards for what they expect in a politician. Federal criminal Ted Stevens appears to have won his bid even after being found guilty of 7 felonies a few weeks ago, Palin doesn't know what a VP does, even though she runs for the office and most pathetically doesn't even know what countries are in North America as well as not knowing South Africa is a country and that Africa is a continent made up of many countries. I bet it would blow her mind to know Egypt is in Africa LOL. I can hear it now, "that can't be, Egyptians aren't black--- are they?" She should definitely not appear on the tv show "are you smarter than a 5th grader."
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I heard this morning that if Ted Stevens resigns or is removed from his post, the governor of Alaska will appoint a new US senator. So, Sarah Palin can't appoint herself......but, she could resign as governor first, making the current Lieutenant Governor the governor, who COULD appoint SP to the US Senate!
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Amy, I know the media was salivating about Palin's shopping sprees, her temper tantrums and her greeting campaign staffers wearing only a towel, but I found the reports about her lack of knowledge the most disturbing. We've talked a lot about how McCain was given a pass on things that would have sunk Obama. Can you imagine if Hillary were as ignorant and cavalier as Palin?
Hooray NC and OR! Now the Dems just have to figure out what to do with Mr. Lieberman . . .
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About Prop 8 here in CA: The No folks are demanding that all the provisional and mail-in votes be counted, as it's been estimated that there are at least 2 million of them that haven't been counted. At my own polling place we had over 80 provisional ballots and 46 mail-in ballots in addition to the 650 regularly cast ballots. Many of the people who cast provisional ballots should have been on the rolls but weren't. There were cases where a husband was on the roster, but the wife wasn't, even though both had lived at the same address for years. It was really maddening. I think all votes should be counted, regardless of whether they're likely to change outcomes. It takes time and money, but how can we get more people to vote on a regular basis if they think there's a chance their vote literally won't be counted?
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Sarah Palin can't appoint herself as a US Senator. After Frank Mirkowski appointed his daughter to take his place in the Senate when he was elected AK governor, a referendum was passed to preclude that from happening again. IF Stevens resigns, the governor calls for a special election within 30-90 (?) days. She could run for it, but would have to be elected like anybody else.
Many states do allow the Governor to appoint someone to serve out the term of a dead/resigning Senator, just not Alaska.
I'm just happy to see the election behind us. Now the hard work begins.
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wow, fox could not wait to throw sarah under the bus. hilarious stuff, the towel, the first dudes wardrobe, her grasp of geography, her couric prep they were just chomping at the bit.
fox is a new favorite for me
it is playing everywhere!
crazy.!
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lap, i am not giving up on 8 yet...:) our positive thinking worked before, lets hope it works again.
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analemma- I heard that Palin can indeed name herself (and resign as Governor.....), I guess if PSK is right, they news was wrong.
LAP- Yes, her lack of knowledge is the most disturbing and why I hate more that she's a token woman and not someone qualified to shine Hillary's shoes.
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I am looking forward to seeing how Barack does on our health care. I just got a call from my ins. saying they are bumping it up to $440/mth. However, I can up my ded. if I want. I said I'm still paying down $10k of medical bills that I have from last year with this deductible! Very depressing.
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I should say that's on top of the $390 for my hubby's monthly ins. The health ins is just out of control if you're self employed. I'm so glad the troll didn't get in there with his idea!! Most people take health ins. for granted until they get hit with something like we all have. Then you begin to realize the effects a crappy ins., or even no ins. has on your life.
OK..well..on to better thoughts for the day!
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Hey all: Yes, I had to turn the radio up in the car today to make sure that I heard properly....FOX NEWS turning on Palin....
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YEAH To North Carolina!!!!!!!
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Donna: This is for you.
I have been reading, but soooo busy. Some of your posts just bring tears to my eyes. I'm just so happy Obama won. I have mised all the news shows so all of this stuff about Palin is new to me and cracking me up. I just knew she was up to no good.
Here in Illinois, our Governor will name President Obama's replacement.
If SP names herself I think I will vomit. I have to say that living here in Illinois has made this so special. I mean, our local guy - from Chicago is now the President elect. How cool is that?
OK - gonna try and catch up with all this political stuff on the news. Have a wonderful evening.
Nicki
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