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  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited July 2008

    Sable - LOVE THAT!!  And your beautiful face, too!

    Eddie- There is no rambling here - only thoughts and all are okay.  What a sweetie you are to invite my nephew for dinner!  He is also very sweet and rather shy.  I will pass it on to him through his dad.  And I was swollen like the Goodyear Blimp this weekend, but I did have chemo.  I know I still have ankle swelling in the summer when it's hot - I had very bad edema with second pregnancy and it's just stayed.

    Sue - Yeah, I get that surreal thing, too.  And I was totally overwhelmed today at work.  Now, I am dog ass tired (I just like writing that!). 

    It's a short list this week, ladies.  Somehow, I don't think everyone is checking in...Here's what I've got so far...

    Wednesday - Rock (T#3?) and Roxi (T#2?) (sounds like a band!)  Good thoughts coming your ways!!

    Thursday - Sable & Eddie (T#1); Kristy (Her)

    Friday - Anyone?

    I'll be around tomorrow and then off on a short business trip Thursday and Friday. 

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited July 2008

    I forgot-and acknowledged that I had forgotten briefly -tonight about having cancer. I was at the theatre, watching 'Cabaret' .

    I spent all day wondering what the hell I was going to wear as NONE of my summer clothes will even do up. I finally managed with 10 minutes to spare to find something that did not A) make me look fatter B) look ok with the mast bra that I hate!   A LOT of people stared at me and my bald head in my pretty sundress. We wondered, what was going on in their minds exactly. Some of them smiled at me, some of them were just mouths open stupified. Maybe the fact that I was laughing and having a cocktail - YES! I had a cocktail!- while being *sick* was too wierd for them.

     Eddie, I started Midd in '85 so I don't think I crossed paths with those people. Though it is a teeny tiny place. I bet I am only 1 degree of separation from them.

     Gosh, what did I read in Hebrew lit? I will have to see if I have any of my books left. 

     I think you are awesome saying " ..since I mostly sailed through A/C..." you think having shingles and pink eye at the same time means you sailed through??? Holy, then you are my hero and you will have enough energy to walk to freakin' Canada on Taxol.

    Stop worrying Ladies, most of us April girls had waaaay less problems with Tax than with A/C. Sore bodies yes, but nothing compared to A/C.

    I had the allergic reaction to Taxol tx #1. Mostly soreness and a funny throat feeling, but it was enough for them to stop it and freak out 6 nurses and a Doc. It all turned out ok, and they infused  the rest slowly, and gave me my next 3 slowly too.

     Have great treatments and easy side effects. 

     Noelle  

     

     

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited July 2008

    Sable,

    I'm with all the other gals...LOVE IT! Thanks to all the best wishes, I think Rock and I are off to some retro concert by the sounds of all the 80's music we've been referring to lately. Yes, sometimes rock music is soothing to the soul. Gotta get dressed and out the door. Noelle, I love the theatre. Hope the show was grand.

    P.S. Love the new avatars ladies. 

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2008

    Alas, I was not gifted with ways of the words. This was given to me at my node therapist visit yesterday. I immediately thought of you guys and posting it here. I keep threatening to get one of those baby bows that they glue on babies heads for myself. lol

    Cris~ thanks!... it's not a good pic at all. Everyone else was posting new ones and that's all I had new LOL. My mom comes up after each treatment to help with my son (vacation from my dad) and always has a camera on her no matter where she goes. So I swiped it and was making faces into the lense. Gave her something "good" to look at when she took it home to see what all was on it.

  • Jeano77
    Jeano77 Member Posts: 237
    edited July 2008

    Sable and Eddie:  Love the new avs!

    Eddie:  Taxol - I had the same conversation with my nurse that Rock had with her nurse . . . 600 + patients and only 2 reactions.  I have had ankle swelling and bone pain after Taxol, not sure why you have it now, but you have had a lot going on with SEs.  Utterly smooth (extra care has the urea that has been recommended by Rock & others), it is at drugstore.com.

    Sue:  I am glad that you posted your thoughts about all of this being surreal.  There are moments that I sit in disbelief that I have been diagnosed, etc.  I just had that conversation yesterday with a friend and after having expressed my disbelief out loud, assumed that I was still in denial.  It is reassuring to know that I am not the only one with these thoughts.

    Otter:  I am an "almost A" . . . flat as a pancake.  My PS is doing reconstruction for an "A".  Both saline and silicone implants come as small as 100cc.  The challenge is that gravity has created a "slope" with my existing, so the reconstruct side will be a bit more full on top.  If the PS were to try to "match" the two - adding implant to the non-bc breast, it would push me up to a small B (100cc + existing tissue). 

    Roxi, Rock, Eddie & Sable - wishing you well as you head to treatment this week.  Hoping that I did not miss anyone.  Jean

  • ranD
    ranD Member Posts: 373
    edited July 2008

    Sable.

    when I read your last post, I thought you said nude therapist and I was hoping we could sign up for that!

    love the poemright now, I have been waiting for 30 minutes for something to load up on my dial-up.  Chances are when it does, it will be some lame ass poem that is designed to lift me up. {grin} Slowing down my download connection really achieves that peaceful feeling lam-o!!! Jeez, I even sent out a global e-mail twice to get it thru to people that we have dial up and stop sending large files arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I want high speed,I want high speed, I hate the boonies and the tree line that blocks any high spped access...ahhhhhh

    Anywhooo, prayers and thoughts with all the tx this week.  next week is my first Taxol, and I am breathless.....lol

    randie

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2008
    Randie~ ROFLMAO! nude therapist ONLY if david beckham does it. But I'd want him in his armani undies ... so I guess that doesn't qualify as nude does it? I wonder if Johnny Depp is available????? "Oh no the lymphdema massage is on  the side WITH the boob... not the side without"Wink
  • EyesOTex
    EyesOTex Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2008

    ladies, how i have missed you all!  welcome to our new members from near and far.  i should've been on here because i've needed your wisdom and the assurance that i'm not the only weepy one!

    i'll post my non-interesting resume another time.

    i've been sweating PET scans that turned out so well that the onc wants me to continue on with this course of chemo another 2 cycles, to make six in all, so i won't be through until the end of sept. or first of oct.  but he (onc) was actually smiling so either he is bipolar or i am.

    i'm so sorry everyone has had these side effects!  sheesh!  Good luck to those going on to taxol/taxotere.  I had mine along with the A/C so I didn't know what side effect to blame on which drug!

    i have been dog. ass. tired.  plus shaky (but today is the last day of steroids) so it is hard to type right.

    sue, my daughter had a doula last year and she was great.  do it.  get The Birth Partner by Penny Simkin, PT, and Ina May's Guide to Childbirth by Ina May Gaskin.

    I hope everyone's tx went well, or will go well.  I can't keep it straight so I have to send out a blanket statement, but i love you all!

    eyes

  • sueper13
    sueper13 Member Posts: 1,224
    edited July 2008

    eyes,

    great to see you again! Where have you been?

    glad your pet scans are okay...sorry for the dog. ass. tiredness.

    you most assuredly are not the only weepy one.  I think that's all that makes it bearable, is knowing we are not alone.

    I love you too.

    Sue 

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited July 2008

    Sue,

    Surreal. Yes

    Sable, can't wait to have your company tomorrow and I ADORE your new av

    Rock, my pet peeve are all the books people send -- the cnacer books. OY. I'm living it. Do I have to keep reading it too? But I LOVE Sable's piece.

    Cristine have a fun time on your business trip.

    Adrienne, My ankles have never swelled up in hot weather before and you and I both know that ain't happening around here this week. More sodium? No. Anticipation of taxol? Maybe. Cheers!

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2008

    Ugh! Ok I officially HATE steroids!!!!!!!!!! I felt awesome this morning, maybe just a tad jittery. ( I am taking 2 in the morning with breakfast and 2 with dinner) I got up and cleaned the bathroom and did a load of laundry and it hit me....... All over weakness and dizzy kinda spell and I don't like it. It's let up a tad but I still feel weak. I wonder if I just overdid cleaning a bit and sucking up fumes.

    Are we there yet?

    Eddie.... they changed my time to 1030 am et... when is yours?

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited July 2008

    hmm Nude Therapists what a novel idea. I could market that idea.

     Wait, I guess that is what's called a massage parlour? My Therapaist is a competetive cyclist, he would look awesome nude... hmmmm. 

    Rock, I love the new pic! you too Sable. 

    Tex! where have you been?

    Sue, Also read anything by Dr Sears and his medically trained wife/ family if you wanna learn more with regards to babyin' and stuff using natural and smart choices( breastfeeding, babywearing, family bed, child led weaning and the like)   

     I smashed myself into an old outfit for the a photo shoot for the local paper today. Now I am off to relax in the garden. I am child free for a few hours. 

      Chemoooooo!( I think I am going to start making this my sign off... it means have a great chemo, I hope your se's are awesome and minimal, keep the faith, i love you etc. Now I just need a hand gesture to go with it. Maybe I can make it go viral and we can all use it when we see a fellow cancer patient on the street. Or perhaps I am just bananas!)

       Chemooooo!

    Noelle  

  • EyesOTex
    EyesOTex Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2008

    Hand gesture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited July 2008

    I HATE steroids too- one of my recent thoughts is throwing away the little bottle after tx 6 in August - funny how little things make an impact!

    Kristy

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2008

    Kristy I can't wait to toss out ALL these flippin pills!

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited July 2008

    just starting the med chucking today! I looked at my night stand and realised I only need kleenex lipbalm and water on it NOT the basket full of pain killers, anti nausea meds, sore muscle sprays and rubs, etc etc.

    Woohooo!  

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited July 2008

    Noelle,

    I am a huge Dr. Sears fan. I won't tell you how long I nursed my boys but most people would flip out. We did family bed and we wore our children and we still believe it worked best for our family. I did cut back on pills along the way and hope to continue. I have a fridge full of viacon (one bottle...never touched) and oxycodin (one bottle, never touched), xanex (took one before the biopsy and one before the mastectomy) and a 15 year old so I really need to clear all that out until a high school friend comes over and tells my kid how much money he could make on the street if he sold it all (or, they just might pop them themselves although I can't imagine that.) 

    Sable, 10 AM for me. I will be thinking about you I promise...and playing mah jong...we're bringing a card table to chemo. I am supposed to take my steroids all at once tonight and all at once tomorrow morning. Ay carramba. Maybe having that week off fr shingles will help.

    I better go check those steroids right now.  

    Penny Simkin lives in Seattle. I got to play the role of a doula once (not a real one, but I had the best time...go for it. 

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited July 2008

    Just got back from another viewing of "the business of being born" with some of my colleagues from National Advocates for Pregnant Women.  Pretty darned cool adn worth being dog ass tired now.

    Taxol today uneventful.  "only" 8 more to go.

    DC tomorrow to see undergrad friends (and play mah jongh -- really!) and I think I might leave my computer at home.  So if you don't hear from me, it's okay.

    Gotta pack. Gotta shower. Gotta figure out whether I care about the hives.

     loads o' love, and power to the doulas and the midwives, jeanne

  • ellenoire
    ellenoire Member Posts: 674
    edited July 2008

    Eddie, I nursed Luke until he quit at 4 1/2 , and I have many friends that went longer.

    I am single parent, so having a kid in my bed is no big deal. But, let me tell you dating with an extended nurser and a family bed is a curious thing. No, my kid did not sleep in my bed if I had a man over. There is nothing like being on a second date with a man who has no kids and thinks they should lecture you on how you are making bad parenting choices. NEXT!

     Rock,glad tx was ok today. Cannot recall who else went today... Chemooooo!

    I am off to an early bed to try and get ahead of the exhaustion from the cannot fall asleep until 3am/night sweats ordeal.

      Chemooo! everyone.

     Noelle  

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2008

    Noelle everytime I see you put down chemooooo! I think Tawanda!!!!!!! as a response LOL.

    Rock~ I swear you have the prettiest eyes, I'm jealous!

    Eddie~ it's me and you chickie.. we can do this! 4 more chemo to go then herceptin for me. Please Lord let our tx's go smooth and quickly and with only one poke!

    Felt a bit better after dinner tonight... not quite as weak. Haven't had that feeling since taking my second dose either... I'm hoping I just had too many bathroom cleaning product fumes.

    Think i'm gonna have to get my real set of mahjong tiles now and learn how. My 7 yr old is pretty good at playing on the computer as well.

  • ewesterman
    ewesterman Member Posts: 417
    edited July 2008

    Okay ladies, took 20 grams of dexa whatever they are called. Sable scared me as she tok steroids all day, but I checked the lable and...no, it's five tonigh and five before chemo tomorrow. I am currently flying high and will share two experiences because I can. It's up to you if you read. Number 1: My ears are burning in the best way. The back of my head ... kind of between my ears is partying. Which leads me to number 2.

    When I was 19 (there is really a much better and deeper story here but I will NOT go into it now but suffice it to say that I was a virgin but thought I had herpes and, yes, when I am not steroided I will share the story either on this thread or on a private one if you wish cause it is funny but back tot he main story). I was 19 and had gotten myself into poison ivy. I was allergic to it and the inside of my body was suffering as well as the out. I was placed on a major regiment or is that regimen of 12 steroids a day for 10 days (and don't stop even if it goes away). I spaced out my six in the morning one day (hey, I was 19. I forgot) so at night I took 12. (Did I mention I was 19 and stupid?). Immediately, I felt odd. I begged out of the program (I was at a college camp) and went to my cottage where I rested. Jerry Garcia came in t my cottage and sat at the foot of my bed. I must be hallucinating, I thought. I had never done any drugs heavier than once in a while pot. I liked what I saw. He was playing Terrapan Station (sp? don't blame me...I just took five steroids) on the electric guitar and he sounded goooooooood. Then I thought, I must be hallucinating, but he seems so real. Then, I came up with a plan. If his amp is plugged in, I thought, this is real. Why? Because who would hallucinate in such detail that an amp would be plugged in, right? So I checked. And, guess what? It was plugged in. I KNEW I was no hallucinating. The next three nights, I took 12 steroids, but guess what? It never happened again. Go figure. So, tonight, when my ears started tingling, I thought, just go with it. Maybe Jerry will come back from the dead. Do you think? Herceptin tomorrow for me too...you too Sable? Then on to herceptin only? Rock does have pretty eyes.

    I hope, ROck, that your bams, dots and cracks bring you luck at the mah jong table. Good night dear women. May all of your rock stars visit you in your dreams tonight. 

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited July 2008

    Dana - Good to see you around again!  (Tawanda!!)

    Rock - Glad to hear your treatment went well.  And...hives?  What hives???

    Noelle - Yes, we definitely need a hand gesture. I can think of a few, but it probably should be suitable for public. 

    Sable and Eddie - Good luck tomorrow, taxol virgins (Is that like vestal virgins?).  And you're both scaring me with the steroids.  Both for you and for me, when I probably will have to take them. 

    One last note about the nursing thing - my sister also nursed all 3 of her kids until they had full sets of teeth and could ask for it.  Me?  We were good to make it to 3 months.

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited July 2008

    I think the hives is a "me-specific" thang. I've always been "hive-y."  The inside of my elbow has always had some hives on the infusion arm ever since I started chemo. And I've got these not itchy isolated hives/bumps on my legs.  Nope, not bed bugs. I've been checking and checking and checking my mattress.  And there aren't any on other exposed surfaces.   Any thoughts, sisters?

    Oh, and did I mention I'm now anemic!  Yep, a blood transfusion may be in my not-so-distant future. Do any of you have experience with this?

    I gotta say, though, I feel really really good. I'm happy, my energy is good and I don't think it's just the steroids (I type this at 2 am, admittedly).   Eddie -- I read your whole post and was certain the whole time that you DID meet Jerry Garcia.  I hung out with Perry Henzell ("The Harder They Come") in Jamaica; he was a friend of Bob Marley). My friends toked with him, but not me. (I really hate cottonmouth and okay, I was a bit uptight.)

    Sable and Eddie--  My eyes are largely courtesy of Stila eyeshadow and some GOOD 20-somethings who showed me how to wear eye makeup for the first time in my life.  I even bought their eyebrow stuff.  Did YOU know that you can put the lighter shade on the space that used to be eyebrows  nearest your nose (where mine are MIA) and the darker stuff everywhere else and it looks pretty darned convincing?  Yeah, the lighter shade makes it look a lot less fake on me. 

    Meanwhile, I was over her thinking, "Boy, I wish I had Sable's teeth." (I love your expression, btw.  I just do.)

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited July 2008

    Eddie and Sable - hope the Taxol goes down smoothly.  (And about those steroids . . . I'm getting a relatively low dose - 1 little 4 mg pill twice daily - but do you know what?  It must be the wrong kind or something, because NOT ONCE has it made me clean my house.  Maybe if I switched from generic to brand?)

    Rock, how anemic are you?  I think they generally try to avoid transfusions unless your hemoglobin goes REALLY low, like under 9.  Under 10, they may suggest an erythrpowhatever stimulating factor like Aranesp.  Or - hopefully - your counts will stabilize.  Jury is still out on mine . . . hgb got as low as 10.6 on my last treatment day, but then, weirdly, came back up the next week.  We'll see where things are at when I have labs tomorrow . . . I've given up trying to guess my counts based on how I feel.  That worked for a while, then my vivid imagination took over, and I started to feel increased shortness of breath, lightheadedness, seeing spots, etc. whenever I thought about it.

    Eddie and Rock, you're making me want to learn how to play mah jong!  Maybe during our family week at the lake in August I can ask my mother-in-common-law (bf's mother) to teach me . . . I mean, she's never mentioned mah jong, but as a 79-year-old Jewish lady, she MUST know how to play, right? 

    Eyebrow report: left and right are in a race to see who can disappear first.  They're using different strategies, though.  Left is disappearing from both ends, leaving a little furry bit in the middle.  Right is thinning evenly. 

    Linda

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited July 2008

    Just caught up with yesterday's posts. Anemia huh? My counts have been borderline but always have been. Is this new for you since treatment? My mom was slightly anemic and had B12 shots regularly to help maintain her red (?) count. Treatment was long but uneventful. My appointment on the other hand was filled quite a different story. My Onc has decided I need genetic testing. They wrote a referral and I'm calling today. It sounds like if I'm positive, they would recommend the whole shabang-  left mast and ovaries out. Christ, another surgery....so much for looking into the swap. Sounds like that would be put on the burner. Rads, well he said since I only had 2 positive nodes and a tumor that was only 1.7cm, I'm not a typically candidate but the rad onc will talk to me about that. He said basically if 40 women had rads, only 1 would benfit. Would that 1 be me? I can't absorb all this right now. Last night after treatment my daughter tryed out for the Milwaukee Bucks dance team. We were there all night. She had a great time but didn't make the cut, needless to say, I had major diarehha (TMI) and only 3 hours of sleep. Awaiting the bone pain. What's this gluata stuff at GNC for bone pain? Anybody know?  Looks like a pretty crappy day ahead of me. Oh well, life goes on.

    Linda, how many more treatments, maybe the brows will hang on a little longer. 

    Good luck to all our friends with tx today. Here's to minimal se's. 

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited July 2008

    Hey Rock - I too have become anemic.  My last two tx my #'s were 10.9.  Onc treats the anemia when it drops below 11.  I have been given Aranesp injections both times.  There was never any mention of a transfusion!  That is just scary.

    Dang Eddie - why don't I get those fun side effects from the steroids?  I think I'd like a visit from Elton John.  The old Elton...great costumes, big glasses. 

    Roxi - more waiting..poo that.  What made your Onc decide on the genetic testing?  How cool is it that your daughter had the opportunity to try out for the Bucks dance team.  I'm sorry she didn't make it but glad she had a great time.  That would be a blast!  I didn't find the Taxol bone pain too bad.  It was tolerable.  Irritating but tolerable.  My bone pain was mostly in my hips and legs.  I found that walking helped.

    I too would love to learn to play "real" MahJong.  I play it well on the computer and have been tempted to buy a real set but don't know that anyone in the family would enjoy playing it.

    Tomorrow I have a consult with Rad Onc to determine whether or not they suggest radiation.  I had one microdot on one node.  Both my surgeon and my regular Onc don't think radiation will be recommended so I'm hugely counting on that.  We'll see how that goes.

    Sable & Eddie - Good luck today.  I know you'll do great! 

    ~Adrienne

  • Sable
    Sable Member Posts: 738
    edited July 2008

    *I've got nerves that jiggle hangle jiggle,

    as I go not so merrily along"

    ~valium~check

    ~numby stuff that doesn't work real well~check

    ~breakfast~ in the works

    ~hair.... oh ya what hair?

    I am working on good vibes today for the treatment... I can feel eddie with me and I hope she can feel the ones I am sending her way. I keep telling myself it's only gonna be one jab this time. I;m considering iceing my shoulder as well on the way.

    rock~ um thanks for the teeth comment, I'm always wishing I had somebody else's myself LOL... grass is always greener I guess. Was gonna do another white strip treatment not too long ago and glad I didn't.... gums and teeth are sensitive now and they hate my sonic tooth brush most days.

    Rock star to visit me.... um have to be the lead singer from nickle back. Saw them in concert last summer and it rocked! Had 3rd row seats woohoo! "I don't know why I like him, I just do" <--- from an old 80's song. Never dated the badboy type growing up maybe that's part of the attraction..... dated a-holes a plenty though.

    I thought it was weird that I was having go take the steroids the day before and you all took them at nite.... I'm going DD taxol, could that be the reason? So many questions......

    Egads typo fairy has visited me like crazy this morning... I tried to get them all forgive me if I miss 1,2, or 50. I CAN spell honest.

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited July 2008

    Hand gestures-I have a special one that I use.  We have this really arrogant male nurse at work who thinks that he can talk to the rest of us however he wants.  One day while on break, he got a little mouthy and I just wasn't in the mood, so I really thought about flipping him the bird, then, I just raised my hand and waved at him--you know--kinda of parade style--he looked at me really confused, so I told him--"I really wanted to flip you the bird, but decided you needed the whole flock".  He was speechless and has been a lot nicer since. 

    WBC's back up, STILL waiting on BRCA results--anyone know how long this usually takes??  Onc says okay to go back to work, but has to be a desk job, no resident contact.  Work is now saying that they have nothing right now but will try to come up with something.  SO, I may be going back to work, and I may not.  

    Hey Roxi, a boy I grew up with (he was a few years older), played for the Bucks back in the late 70's, Kent Benson.  He is retired from pro ball now.

    Glad that everyones tx has gone okay so far.  You are all in my thoughts.  I'm back up to bat next Wed. 

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited July 2008

    Sable - Eddie and I are both DD Taxol as well.  I wonder if its a regional thing...we're both in Washington state.  Not sure why it would be a regional thing but hey...who knows.

    On the bad boy/rock star thing...if I can't have Elton, I'd accept Keith Richards as an alternate.  Oh yeah..... 

  • EyesOTex
    EyesOTex Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2008

    Good luck, Sable!!!

    Gracie, I LOVE the whole flock.

    Adrienne, it does seem that our treatments are pretty regional; and time sensitive; f'rinstance, in '06 I had my a/c/t all together x 6 in what was termed dd (every 3 weeks).  Now it looks like everyone's having their taxane separately after the a/c or they're not having the a if they're her+.  More carboplatin than I've seen before, too.  Haven't seen anyone on cisplatin besides me.  Looks like the standard in EU & AUS, etc., is FEC.  confusing...

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